| Russia invade Ukraine 14:17 - Dec 23 with 166033 views | Flynnidine_Zidownes |
Discuss.
Also why is Putin always described in the media as this rugged strongman? He’s barely five foot tall with his high heels on.
But that’s another debate.
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 20:22 - Jul 27 with 1103 views | Boundy |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 22:58 - Jul 26 by controversial_jack |
I think you missed a major point here.Russia is not our enemy. We aren't at war with them.They haven't declared war on us or we on them. Therefore, you're post is irrelevant and makes no sense at all.
You may not approve of their actions, and you are entitled to say what you like and i get that. The difference between you and is you support censorship and I don't |
If you believe that then you're a bigger idiot than I first thought you were | |
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 22:39 - Jul 27 with 1064 views | deanscfc |
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 23:36 - Jul 27 with 1034 views | majorraglan |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 22:58 - Jul 26 by controversial_jack |
I think you missed a major point here.Russia is not our enemy. We aren't at war with them.They haven't declared war on us or we on them. Therefore, you're post is irrelevant and makes no sense at all.
You may not approve of their actions, and you are entitled to say what you like and i get that. The difference between you and is you support censorship and I don't |
The average Russian is not our enemy and we are not their enemy. Putin and his cronies have complete disregard and contempt for other countries. We've seen chemical weapons deployed in the UK, infrastructure destroyed on the Czech Republic, Chechnya, Syria have been attacked and pummelled and the Ukraine is now being attacked. Their also agitating a conflict in Moldova. | | | |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 01:25 - Jul 28 with 1018 views | DJack |
And for the propagandist Contro who says russian missiles are very accurate and that Russia doesn't target civilians...
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 10:09 - Jul 28 with 957 views | controversial_jack |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 23:36 - Jul 27 by majorraglan |
The average Russian is not our enemy and we are not their enemy. Putin and his cronies have complete disregard and contempt for other countries. We've seen chemical weapons deployed in the UK, infrastructure destroyed on the Czech Republic, Chechnya, Syria have been attacked and pummelled and the Ukraine is now being attacked. Their also agitating a conflict in Moldova. |
There was no chemical attack in Salisbury that was a false flag. Chechnya was defeated by Russia, yes, Syria was attacked by both Russia and the west.
The west has done far worse, but that, but that's whataboutery and ppl want to ignore that because it's inconvenient.
The US is far more a threat to peace than Russia, but that again is inconvenient. Let's not even mention Israel | | | |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 10:37 - Jul 28 with 957 views | Boundy |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 10:09 - Jul 28 by controversial_jack |
There was no chemical attack in Salisbury that was a false flag. Chechnya was defeated by Russia, yes, Syria was attacked by both Russia and the west.
The west has done far worse, but that, but that's whataboutery and ppl want to ignore that because it's inconvenient.
The US is far more a threat to peace than Russia, but that again is inconvenient. Let's not even mention Israel |
"False flag" I suggest you look up the case of Emilian Gebrev or Alexei Navalny . How about getting your "knowledge" from neutral sources rather than RT , critical thinker, you're having a laugh
https://euvsdisinfo.eu/report/no-evidence-of-russian-role-in-skripal-poisoning | |
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 11:44 - Jul 28 with 946 views | majorraglan |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 10:09 - Jul 28 by controversial_jack |
There was no chemical attack in Salisbury that was a false flag. Chechnya was defeated by Russia, yes, Syria was attacked by both Russia and the west.
The west has done far worse, but that, but that's whataboutery and ppl want to ignore that because it's inconvenient.
The US is far more a threat to peace than Russia, but that again is inconvenient. Let's not even mention Israel |
False flag - you’re losing it. What about Alexander Litvinenko who was poisoned with Polonium in London.
Not denying the US, UK snd Isreal along with other countries haven’t caused problems in the past, but this is happening now. | | | |
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 12:52 - Jul 28 with 937 views | 73__73 |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 11:44 - Jul 28 by majorraglan |
False flag - you’re losing it. What about Alexander Litvinenko who was poisoned with Polonium in London.
Not denying the US, UK snd Isreal along with other countries haven’t caused problems in the past, but this is happening now. |
If you think false flag operations aren’t happening, you must be brainwashed fool | |
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 13:34 - Jul 28 with 923 views | deanscfc |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 10:09 - Jul 28 by controversial_jack |
There was no chemical attack in Salisbury that was a false flag. Chechnya was defeated by Russia, yes, Syria was attacked by both Russia and the west.
The west has done far worse, but that, but that's whataboutery and ppl want to ignore that because it's inconvenient.
The US is far more a threat to peace than Russia, but that again is inconvenient. Let's not even mention Israel |
Google, show me an idiot.
"There was no chemical attack in Salisbury that was a false flag." | | | |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 13:35 - Jul 28 with 921 views | majorraglan |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 12:52 - Jul 28 by 73__73 |
If you think false flag operations aren’t happening, you must be brainwashed fool |
I’ve never said False Flag operations don’t happen, I was making particular reference to the Salisbury job. There’s plenty of FF operations taking place in the Ukraine now, particularly by Russia. [Post edited 28 Jul 2022 17:13]
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 14:19 - Jul 28 with 911 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 10:09 - Jul 28 by controversial_jack |
There was no chemical attack in Salisbury that was a false flag. Chechnya was defeated by Russia, yes, Syria was attacked by both Russia and the west.
The west has done far worse, but that, but that's whataboutery and ppl want to ignore that because it's inconvenient.
The US is far more a threat to peace than Russia, but that again is inconvenient. Let's not even mention Israel |
Do you actually believe their version of events? That three high ranking Russian intelligence officials with a history of suspected murders and assassination attempts just decided to visit Salisbury one day on a completely innocent tourist trip to view the world famous cathedral spire? Their arrival completely coincidentally of course occurred at exactly the same time an ex Russian intelligence official and his daughter was poisoned by a nerve agent?
Now it’s obviously true that millions of people from all around the world flock to Salisbury every day to view that ancient wonder of a steeple and also to taste their famous steaks but you have to admit that even in this red hot tourist hot spot this sort of thing is a bit coincidental? |  |
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 15:03 - Jul 28 with 893 views | controversial_jack |
Novichok, is the most toxic substance known to man. A pinhead could kill 10,000, yet only one person died and the others recovered. I'm not saying they weren't poisoned, but it wasn't Novichok. It could have been anything and by anyone. | | | |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 15:50 - Jul 28 with 887 views | Boundy |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 15:03 - Jul 28 by controversial_jack |
Novichok, is the most toxic substance known to man. A pinhead could kill 10,000, yet only one person died and the others recovered. I'm not saying they weren't poisoned, but it wasn't Novichok. It could have been anything and by anyone. |
Wrong again and again and again ,
The widely publicised attack on Sergei and Yulia Skripal in Salisbury in March 2018 certainly did a lot to bring chemical warfare agents, particularly nerve agents, into the public consciousness in the UK and elsewhere. Recent developments in the neighbouring town of Amesbury, where a couple are ill due to coming in contact with the same materials, continue to keep this case in the spotlight. These incidents also raise a lot of questions ranging from the sensible to the ridiculous, and the situation bred numerous odd “alternative narratives” and conspiracy theories.
One thing that comes up time and again in discussions of the Skripal affair is the idea that the ‘Novichok’ nerve agents have no treatment and/or no “antidote”. Odd statements from Russian scientists have contributed to this inaccurate perception. Some random statements online even go as far as to say things like “nobody survives nerve agents.” This is not the case, and it will take a little bit of unpacking to explain why.
The so-called ‘Novichoks’ are a family of nerve agents developed by the Soviet Union in the waning years of the Cold War. This is a broad family of chemicals, and they differ from older nerve agents (such as Sarin and VX) in a lot of ways. Also, as this is a family of chemicals, they differ from each other in various aspects. When it comes to how they affect the human body, all nerve agents operate in the same way. With the Novichoks, the ways someone exposed to them becomes acutely ill are all based on the same biology and chemistry as other nerve agents. Or for that matter, they are not different than accidental poisonings with a variety of pesticides. Insecticides in the organophosphate and carbamate families of chemical compounds are basically, from the viewpoint of what they would do to the human body, nerve agents. For example, the highly restricted pesticide ‘Parathion’ could be used as a nerve agent and is quite dangerous to people. A reasonable knowledge base has developed in the medical profession based on accidental exposures to such pesticides, which has been reinforced by decades of research work in military medicine into how to treat nerve agent exposure. In fact, one of the great resources in this area is free online for those who want to dive deeper in this area: Medical Aspects of Chemical Warfare.
Nerve agents work on the human body by disrupting the complex balance of chemistry that makes the nervous system function properly. To simplify somewhat, the human body uses a chemical called acetylcholine to send signals from the brain to the rest of the body. Another chemical, called acetylcholinesterase acts to stop the acetylcholine once the signal has been sent. For example, if your brain tells your index finger to click the mouse, your nervous system starts a chain of very small bursts of acetylcholine, from your brain all the way down to the muscles that control your index finger. Almost immediately after, the chemical acetylcholinesterase steps in and reacts with the acetylcholine to stop the reaction, a bit like putting on the brakes. If that acetylcholinesterase were not present, your finger would keep twitching and clicking the mouse.
Nerve agents have a chemical structure that means that they are good at binding with the acetylcholinesterase. This makes for a build-up of acetylcholine, effectively causing the human nervous system to start doing things involuntarily. Muscles twitch and contract, salivary glands and mucus membranes start running, tears start running, and a lot of bad things go on in the human body. The greater the amount of nerve agent, the more things go wrong and the extent to which they go wrong is made worse. A lethal dose usually kills through hypoxia (lack of oxygen to the body), as the muscles that control breathing cease to function properly, airways get obstructed, and the heart slows. A reasonable summary of signs and symptoms is here.
The way in which the nerve agent gets into the human body also affects the course of action. Nerve agents which are inhaled get quickly circulated around the body, so many different aspects of nerve agent poisoning happen very quickly. If nerve agents are absorbed through the eyes, they quite obviously affect the eyes before anything else. If the poisons are absorbed through the skin, it can take a long time for much to happen, and when it does happen, it will progress in stages from localised effects around the point of exposure to effects on the rest of the body. It you were to get nerve agent on your hand, it would slowly absorb through your skin and it would likely have effects locally in your hand before things progress to the rest of your system. It might work the other way around, though, if you inhaled a nerve agent. Signs and symptoms would go from central to peripheral. Difficulty in breathing would be an early symptom, whereas twitching in the extremities would be a late sign.
Many doctors call this whole situation a “cholinergic crisis”. However, because the underlying chemistry behind this situation has long been understood by scientists and doctors, there are a large number of medical interventions that can and will save lives. First, there is a drug called atropine. It is related to the plant Belladonna and is a widely known generic medicine which is used for a variety of medical therapies. Atropine works as an antagonist to the acetylcholine that is building up in the nervous system. In effect, it is directly attacking the accumulation of chemicals that is making the person sick.
Another class of drugs, oximes (such as pralidoxime and obidoxime) work to break the link between the nerve agent and acetylcholinesterase, allowing that vital enzyme to go back to work. The effectiveness of oximes varies considerably from nerve agent to nerve agent, and also depends on how much time has elapsed since exposure. Nerve agents have an “ageing time” – a window of time in which the bond between the nerve agent and the acetylcholinesterase can be easily broken by oxime drugs. After this window of time, oximes become less useful. Sarin has a reasonably long window of time. The ageing times for the various Novichok agents, however, are not well established in the scientific literature.
Atropine and oximes can keep someone’s nervous system from melting down until the body begins to produce replacement acetylcholinesterase, a process that can take weeks or months. Also, it should be strongly emphasized that good supportive care is extremely important in treating a nerve agent victim. Keeping the patient’s airway open is very important, as is provided ventilation. Intubation is good for this. The scar on Yulia Skripal’s neck is visible evidence of intubation to ensure an adequate airway. As nerve agents cause convulsions, anti-convulsants such as Valium are useful. With the Skripals, it appears that they were kept sedated for a period of time to allow them to recover. This can be a long period of time, as experience from the Skripals as well as the 1995 Tokyo Subway incident tell us. Haruki Murakami’s excellent book Underground (1997) is a deep dive into the experience of Tokyo Sarin survivors.
Once they enter the human body, nerve agents don’t last long. They end up reacting with water in the human body, and the various compounds that the nerve agents turn into are excreted out, usually through the urinary tract. Looking for these compounds in blood and urine is one way to tell if someone has been exposed to a particular nerve agent. This has been very helpful in investigations in Syria.
The fact that the Skripals or the couple in Amesbury received lifesaving therapy is not shocking at all. In fact, it would be shocking if they didn’t. A lot of effort has been expended by National Health Service (NHS) in England to prepare for the risk of chemical terrorism, including the use of nerve agents.
NHS ambulance trusts stock atropine on ambulances, both for intramuscular injection in the case of clear nerve agent poisoning, and also for intravenous infusion in the case of lowered heart rate (“bradycardia”). Which, incidentally, can occur with nerve agent poisoning. A national stockpile of treatments has been established to deal with incidents. Furthermore, NHS hospitals stock atropine and oximes. For example, such medicines and nerve agent casualty scenarios are specifically mentioned in the emergency plans of Salisbury District Hospital, the hospital that has treated the victims in Wiltshire. Every hospital in England has a similar plan, and has had for some years now.
Being exposed to nerve agents is at minimum highly traumatic. But paramedics and doctors with access to widely available medications and fundamental supportive care can ensure that nerve agent exposure can be treated | |
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 18:47 - Jul 28 with 856 views | controversial_jack |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 15:50 - Jul 28 by Boundy |
Wrong again and again and again ,
The widely publicised attack on Sergei and Yulia Skripal in Salisbury in March 2018 certainly did a lot to bring chemical warfare agents, particularly nerve agents, into the public consciousness in the UK and elsewhere. Recent developments in the neighbouring town of Amesbury, where a couple are ill due to coming in contact with the same materials, continue to keep this case in the spotlight. These incidents also raise a lot of questions ranging from the sensible to the ridiculous, and the situation bred numerous odd “alternative narratives” and conspiracy theories.
One thing that comes up time and again in discussions of the Skripal affair is the idea that the ‘Novichok’ nerve agents have no treatment and/or no “antidote”. Odd statements from Russian scientists have contributed to this inaccurate perception. Some random statements online even go as far as to say things like “nobody survives nerve agents.” This is not the case, and it will take a little bit of unpacking to explain why.
The so-called ‘Novichoks’ are a family of nerve agents developed by the Soviet Union in the waning years of the Cold War. This is a broad family of chemicals, and they differ from older nerve agents (such as Sarin and VX) in a lot of ways. Also, as this is a family of chemicals, they differ from each other in various aspects. When it comes to how they affect the human body, all nerve agents operate in the same way. With the Novichoks, the ways someone exposed to them becomes acutely ill are all based on the same biology and chemistry as other nerve agents. Or for that matter, they are not different than accidental poisonings with a variety of pesticides. Insecticides in the organophosphate and carbamate families of chemical compounds are basically, from the viewpoint of what they would do to the human body, nerve agents. For example, the highly restricted pesticide ‘Parathion’ could be used as a nerve agent and is quite dangerous to people. A reasonable knowledge base has developed in the medical profession based on accidental exposures to such pesticides, which has been reinforced by decades of research work in military medicine into how to treat nerve agent exposure. In fact, one of the great resources in this area is free online for those who want to dive deeper in this area: Medical Aspects of Chemical Warfare.
Nerve agents work on the human body by disrupting the complex balance of chemistry that makes the nervous system function properly. To simplify somewhat, the human body uses a chemical called acetylcholine to send signals from the brain to the rest of the body. Another chemical, called acetylcholinesterase acts to stop the acetylcholine once the signal has been sent. For example, if your brain tells your index finger to click the mouse, your nervous system starts a chain of very small bursts of acetylcholine, from your brain all the way down to the muscles that control your index finger. Almost immediately after, the chemical acetylcholinesterase steps in and reacts with the acetylcholine to stop the reaction, a bit like putting on the brakes. If that acetylcholinesterase were not present, your finger would keep twitching and clicking the mouse.
Nerve agents have a chemical structure that means that they are good at binding with the acetylcholinesterase. This makes for a build-up of acetylcholine, effectively causing the human nervous system to start doing things involuntarily. Muscles twitch and contract, salivary glands and mucus membranes start running, tears start running, and a lot of bad things go on in the human body. The greater the amount of nerve agent, the more things go wrong and the extent to which they go wrong is made worse. A lethal dose usually kills through hypoxia (lack of oxygen to the body), as the muscles that control breathing cease to function properly, airways get obstructed, and the heart slows. A reasonable summary of signs and symptoms is here.
The way in which the nerve agent gets into the human body also affects the course of action. Nerve agents which are inhaled get quickly circulated around the body, so many different aspects of nerve agent poisoning happen very quickly. If nerve agents are absorbed through the eyes, they quite obviously affect the eyes before anything else. If the poisons are absorbed through the skin, it can take a long time for much to happen, and when it does happen, it will progress in stages from localised effects around the point of exposure to effects on the rest of the body. It you were to get nerve agent on your hand, it would slowly absorb through your skin and it would likely have effects locally in your hand before things progress to the rest of your system. It might work the other way around, though, if you inhaled a nerve agent. Signs and symptoms would go from central to peripheral. Difficulty in breathing would be an early symptom, whereas twitching in the extremities would be a late sign.
Many doctors call this whole situation a “cholinergic crisis”. However, because the underlying chemistry behind this situation has long been understood by scientists and doctors, there are a large number of medical interventions that can and will save lives. First, there is a drug called atropine. It is related to the plant Belladonna and is a widely known generic medicine which is used for a variety of medical therapies. Atropine works as an antagonist to the acetylcholine that is building up in the nervous system. In effect, it is directly attacking the accumulation of chemicals that is making the person sick.
Another class of drugs, oximes (such as pralidoxime and obidoxime) work to break the link between the nerve agent and acetylcholinesterase, allowing that vital enzyme to go back to work. The effectiveness of oximes varies considerably from nerve agent to nerve agent, and also depends on how much time has elapsed since exposure. Nerve agents have an “ageing time” – a window of time in which the bond between the nerve agent and the acetylcholinesterase can be easily broken by oxime drugs. After this window of time, oximes become less useful. Sarin has a reasonably long window of time. The ageing times for the various Novichok agents, however, are not well established in the scientific literature.
Atropine and oximes can keep someone’s nervous system from melting down until the body begins to produce replacement acetylcholinesterase, a process that can take weeks or months. Also, it should be strongly emphasized that good supportive care is extremely important in treating a nerve agent victim. Keeping the patient’s airway open is very important, as is provided ventilation. Intubation is good for this. The scar on Yulia Skripal’s neck is visible evidence of intubation to ensure an adequate airway. As nerve agents cause convulsions, anti-convulsants such as Valium are useful. With the Skripals, it appears that they were kept sedated for a period of time to allow them to recover. This can be a long period of time, as experience from the Skripals as well as the 1995 Tokyo Subway incident tell us. Haruki Murakami’s excellent book Underground (1997) is a deep dive into the experience of Tokyo Sarin survivors.
Once they enter the human body, nerve agents don’t last long. They end up reacting with water in the human body, and the various compounds that the nerve agents turn into are excreted out, usually through the urinary tract. Looking for these compounds in blood and urine is one way to tell if someone has been exposed to a particular nerve agent. This has been very helpful in investigations in Syria.
The fact that the Skripals or the couple in Amesbury received lifesaving therapy is not shocking at all. In fact, it would be shocking if they didn’t. A lot of effort has been expended by National Health Service (NHS) in England to prepare for the risk of chemical terrorism, including the use of nerve agents.
NHS ambulance trusts stock atropine on ambulances, both for intramuscular injection in the case of clear nerve agent poisoning, and also for intravenous infusion in the case of lowered heart rate (“bradycardia”). Which, incidentally, can occur with nerve agent poisoning. A national stockpile of treatments has been established to deal with incidents. Furthermore, NHS hospitals stock atropine and oximes. For example, such medicines and nerve agent casualty scenarios are specifically mentioned in the emergency plans of Salisbury District Hospital, the hospital that has treated the victims in Wiltshire. Every hospital in England has a similar plan, and has had for some years now.
Being exposed to nerve agents is at minimum highly traumatic. But paramedics and doctors with access to widely available medications and fundamental supportive care can ensure that nerve agent exposure can be treated |
You are missing the fact that it can kill thousands at a time, not just one or two | | | |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 19:44 - Jul 28 with 852 views | Boundy |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 18:47 - Jul 28 by controversial_jack |
You are missing the fact that it can kill thousands at a time, not just one or two |
and you're missing the point that it didn't either down to good luck which is was for the majority but not for poor Dawn Sturgess, after a bottle was found dumped in bin and which she thought contained perfume , which just goes to show even you that Russia really doesn't give a **** for collateral damage ,. By the way you can develop cancer but not die | |
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 19:52 - Jul 28 with 842 views | 73__73 |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 13:35 - Jul 28 by majorraglan |
I’ve never said False Flag operations don’t happen, I was making particular reference to the Salisbury job. There’s plenty of FF operations taking place in the Ukraine now, particularly by Russia. [Post edited 28 Jul 2022 17:13]
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So you know what is a false flag and what isn’t 😂
Why would the Russians leave a metaphorical ‘smoking gun’ in poisoning someone when they could have just sent a hitman to shoot him ? | |
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 22:30 - Jul 28 with 809 views | DJack |
Why use Polonium on Litvinenko then you utter melt. | |
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 23:02 - Jul 28 with 770 views | controversial_jack |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 19:52 - Jul 28 by 73__73 |
So you know what is a false flag and what isn’t 😂
Why would the Russians leave a metaphorical ‘smoking gun’ in poisoning someone when they could have just sent a hitman to shoot him ? |
Exactly. They just shoot ppl like our police did to that Brazilian electrician on the tube a few years ago. No need to transport the world's most deadly poison from wherever they sourced it from.
Have we been told where they allegedly got it from? | | | |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 23:15 - Jul 28 with 773 views | raynor94 |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 23:02 - Jul 28 by controversial_jack |
Exactly. They just shoot ppl like our police did to that Brazilian electrician on the tube a few years ago. No need to transport the world's most deadly poison from wherever they sourced it from.
Have we been told where they allegedly got it from? |
Don't you ever get fed up making an arse of yourself on here.
You are an absolute laughing stock |  |
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 23:23 - Jul 28 with 770 views | Boundy |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 23:15 - Jul 28 by raynor94 |
Don't you ever get fed up making an arse of yourself on here.
You are an absolute laughing stock |
His lack of self awareness is astounding | |
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 23:57 - Jul 28 with 754 views | controversial_jack |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 23:15 - Jul 28 by raynor94 |
Don't you ever get fed up making an arse of yourself on here.
You are an absolute laughing stock |
What exactly is incorrect about my post? Can you explain? I won't hold my breath. | | | |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 02:27 - Jul 29 with 750 views | deanscfc |
Another day, another documented war crime which is being celebrated by Russians. A Ukrainian prisoner of war tortured and castrated on video. Russians are joyfully circulating it. And still, some sick b*stards defend these animals. | | | |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 03:08 - Jul 29 with 738 views | deanscfc |
This. ^^
They're f*cking animals. And anyone on this forum who tries to deny their crimes are too. | | | |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 03:22 - Jul 29 with 735 views | DJack |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 03:08 - Jul 29 by deanscfc |
This. ^^
They're f*cking animals. And anyone on this forum who tries to deny their crimes are too. |
Read somewhere that the guy (Russian) has been identified and his details printed. | |
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