| Hornets on Sunday 19:31 - Feb 24 with 293620 views | EllDale |
They’re tweeting that their “matchday operations” are being restricted for the home game against Barrow on Sunday for reasons that they don’t want to divulge at the moment.
The bottom line is that the crowd capacity is limited to 920 and there will be no cash admissions on the day.
Wonder what that’s all about? |  | | |  |
| Hornets on Sunday on 23:14 - Sep 5 with 3319 views | EllDale |
It will be interesting to see what sort of ticket allocation Oldham ask for (and receive) for Sunday’s game at the COA. | | | |
| Hornets on Sunday on 09:10 - Sep 6 with 3055 views | Dalenet |
| Hornets on Sunday on 23:14 - Sep 5 by EllDale |
It will be interesting to see what sort of ticket allocation Oldham ask for (and receive) for Sunday’s game at the COA. |
Thats down to the Hornets chairman isn't it. He can have 10,000 seats if he pays the cost. He paid the extra for the whole stand for Keighley and for Swinton I seem to recall. He refused to do it for the last Oldham game. If he wants the revenue he will pay for the full stand. If he doesn't he won't. Besides, with less than 200 hornets fans there 2 weeks ago, he is going to need to be careful that in a key play-off game, Oldham outnumber hornets fans by 2 to 1. He has managed to preside over the biggest decline in support of hornets in a generation. What a legacy. | | | |
| Hornets on Sunday on 09:46 - Sep 6 with 3014 views | kel |
Looks like midget Doug is making things up again on their forum. When Mazey does one I bet we’ll never see Dougie again through either getting stuck up Mazey’s arse and believing everything he says or through sheer embarrassment at being sucked in. |  | | |
| Hornets on Sunday on 09:56 - Sep 6 with 2989 views | Sandyman |
| Hornets on Sunday on 09:46 - Sep 6 by kel |
Looks like midget Doug is making things up again on their forum. When Mazey does one I bet we’ll never see Dougie again through either getting stuck up Mazey’s arse and believing everything he says or through sheer embarrassment at being sucked in. |
"Doug" is a totally insignificant embarrassment to Hornets. He needs help.
https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/9599-delusional-disorder |  | | |
| Hornets on Sunday on 10:03 - Sep 6 with 2971 views | EllDale |
Mazey is claiming this morning on Twitter that the Hornets/Oldham derby is the biggest in rugby league.
Has he never heard of Wigan/St Helens, Leeds/Bradford or Hull/Hull KR?
Or even Workington/Whitehaven? | | | |
| Hornets on Sunday on 10:20 - Sep 6 with 2931 views | kel |
| Hornets on Sunday on 10:03 - Sep 6 by EllDale |
Mazey is claiming this morning on Twitter that the Hornets/Oldham derby is the biggest in rugby league.
Has he never heard of Wigan/St Helens, Leeds/Bradford or Hull/Hull KR?
Or even Workington/Whitehaven? |
Started early today hasn’t he? | | | |
| Hornets on Sunday on 10:33 - Sep 6 with 2901 views | Sandyman |
Strange indeed
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| Hornets on Sunday on 11:51 - Sep 6 with 2776 views | Dalenet |
| Hornets on Sunday on 10:03 - Sep 6 by EllDale |
Mazey is claiming this morning on Twitter that the Hornets/Oldham derby is the biggest in rugby league.
Has he never heard of Wigan/St Helens, Leeds/Bradford or Hull/Hull KR?
Or even Workington/Whitehaven? |
I think he is saying that this derby game is bigger than the usual derby game. Can't disagree with him there.......he has bet the club and his investment on getting promoted. It is indeed a very big game for Hornets. If they fail, will he walk away? | | | |
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| Hornets on Sunday on 12:07 - Sep 6 with 2724 views | kel |
| Hornets on Sunday on 11:51 - Sep 6 by Dalenet |
I think he is saying that this derby game is bigger than the usual derby game. Can't disagree with him there.......he has bet the club and his investment on getting promoted. It is indeed a very big game for Hornets. If they fail, will he walk away? |
Fair point but aye, he does appear to have gone ‘all in’ for promotion so will be interesting to see what happens if it doesn’t go to plan. ‘The Hornet’ (who seems to have disappeared from their forum) claims that’s not the case though and they’re not banking on it. Let’s wait and see. | | | |
| Hornets on Sunday on 12:13 - Sep 6 with 2713 views | EllDale |
It's still a massive gamble.
Marketing group IMG are unveiling their plans to revamp the sport next week to RFL officials and all 37 professional clubs will learn of the proposals at a meeting on September 27th.
Worse case scenario is that Hornets could be fighting for promotion to a division that isn't going to exist in the future. | | | |
| Hornets on Sunday on 18:35 - Sep 6 with 2395 views | joecooke |
| Hornets on Sunday on 10:03 - Sep 6 by EllDale |
Mazey is claiming this morning on Twitter that the Hornets/Oldham derby is the biggest in rugby league.
Has he never heard of Wigan/St Helens, Leeds/Bradford or Hull/Hull KR?
Or even Workington/Whitehaven? |
Think he needs to remember Leigh v Wigan quite a big deal. |  |
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| Hornets on Sunday on 19:03 - Sep 6 with 2340 views | nordenblue |
| Hornets on Sunday on 18:35 - Sep 6 by joecooke |
Think he needs to remember Leigh v Wigan quite a big deal. |
He needs to hype it up because his heads on the block, a part of me sincerely hopes they fall short, similar to when bury and Stockport chucked money around like black pepper too..couldn't happen to a nicer fella, sure he'll vanish from social media like the rest of them do when it all goes tits up [Post edited 6 Sep 2022 21:14]
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| Hornets on Sunday on 20:35 - Sep 6 with 2224 views | joecooke |
| Hornets on Sunday on 19:03 - Sep 6 by nordenblue |
He needs to hype it up because his heads on the block, a part of me sincerely hopes they fall short, similar to when bury and Stockport chucked money around like black pepper too..couldn't happen to a nicer fella, sure he'll vanish from social media like the rest of them do when it all goes tits up [Post edited 6 Sep 2022 21:14]
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i would always want Hornets to do well as i watched them a quite few times as a kid and played a bit at Mayfield as a nipper though ive seen this fella at Leigh,Swinton and Rochdale and it never turns out well, so in that respect i get where your coming from. | |
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| Hornets on Sunday on 21:27 - Sep 6 with 2145 views | TyroneShoelaces |
| Hornets on Sunday on 19:03 - Sep 6 by nordenblue |
He needs to hype it up because his heads on the block, a part of me sincerely hopes they fall short, similar to when bury and Stockport chucked money around like black pepper too..couldn't happen to a nicer fella, sure he'll vanish from social media like the rest of them do when it all goes tits up [Post edited 6 Sep 2022 21:14]
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Don’t understand all this accounting malarky , but Mazey lists his profile on twitter as
Managing Director of SR Waite Group but when you go on Companies House its listed as a
Dormant Co.
Sure RAFC Blue will come back with a more warts and all analysis | | | |
| Hornets on Sunday on 21:46 - Sep 6 with 2101 views | RAFCBLUE |
| Hornets on Sunday on 21:27 - Sep 6 by TyroneShoelaces |
Don’t understand all this accounting malarky , but Mazey lists his profile on twitter as
Managing Director of SR Waite Group but when you go on Companies House its listed as a
Dormant Co.
Sure RAFC Blue will come back with a more warts and all analysis |
Three main companies set out here:
https://www.srwaite.com/
A. SR Waite Electrical Contractors Ltd - Company Number 3152575
Net assets at 31 March 2021 - £7,947
60% owned by Andrew Paul Mazey
B. Building Services & FM Ltd - Company Number 8870218
Net assets at 31 March 2021 - £21,311
90% owned by Andrew Paul Mazey
C. Anderson & Maloney Ltd - Company Number 03519678
Net assets at 31 March 2021 - £27,521
100% owned by Andrew Paul Mazey
Management team:
https://www.srwaite.com/sr-waite-group/meet-the-team/ |  |
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| Hornets on Sunday on 22:15 - Sep 6 with 2014 views | TyroneShoelaces |
| Hornets on Sunday on 21:46 - Sep 6 by RAFCBLUE |
Three main companies set out here:
https://www.srwaite.com/
A. SR Waite Electrical Contractors Ltd - Company Number 3152575
Net assets at 31 March 2021 - £7,947
60% owned by Andrew Paul Mazey
B. Building Services & FM Ltd - Company Number 8870218
Net assets at 31 March 2021 - £21,311
90% owned by Andrew Paul Mazey
C. Anderson & Maloney Ltd - Company Number 03519678
Net assets at 31 March 2021 - £27,521
100% owned by Andrew Paul Mazey
Management team:
https://www.srwaite.com/sr-waite-group/meet-the-team/ |
So doing this and only worth £56,000 or is that too simplistic? | | | |
| Hornets on Sunday on 23:32 - Sep 6 with 1936 views | Dalenet |
| Hornets on Sunday on 22:15 - Sep 6 by TyroneShoelaces |
So doing this and only worth £56,000 or is that too simplistic? |
These are all small businesses that do not need to report their full P&L or require an external audit. You can't see how much the directors are paid, but the aggregate balance sheet isn't substantial thats for sure. They employ 15 people (incl the directors) so that gives you a flavour of the size of the businesses. It doesn't look like his businesses are abke to throw off enough cash to prop up a professional sports team. But the fans should have realised that when Paul Ormerod needed to write off his loans to Hornets when Mazey took over.
But of course Mazey could have wealth from elsewhere.
Big Doug will know..... | | | |
| Hornets on Sunday on 00:51 - Sep 7 with 1896 views | Sandyman |
| Hornets on Sunday on 23:32 - Sep 6 by Dalenet |
These are all small businesses that do not need to report their full P&L or require an external audit. You can't see how much the directors are paid, but the aggregate balance sheet isn't substantial thats for sure. They employ 15 people (incl the directors) so that gives you a flavour of the size of the businesses. It doesn't look like his businesses are abke to throw off enough cash to prop up a professional sports team. But the fans should have realised that when Paul Ormerod needed to write off his loans to Hornets when Mazey took over.
But of course Mazey could have wealth from elsewhere.
Big Doug will know..... |
Monday evening he said: "No ticket information on the Hornets website. Dont tell me that the wimp ball club are playing silly buggers with us again."
Tuesday evening he's on about tickets being on sale.
https://www.hornetsrugbyleague.co.uk/tickets-new/tickets
And https://www.hornetsrugbyleague.co.uk/article/1144/update-hornets-vs-oldham
"We remain in discussions with RAFC but, for now, only Main Stand East seating is available meaning a capacity of 954 for our final home game of 2022.However, we are hopeful of additional seats being made available and will provide further updates - in due course."
Fulfil the requirements of the safety certificate that RAFC is responsible for and you can have more allowed in. Fail to do so and you won't. Over to you Mazey and Kerr, and not "Big Doug", a gobshite of the ages. The bradley1 of Hornets. For those who remember when bury had a club  | | | |
| Hornets on Sunday on 03:30 - Sep 7 with 1808 views | pioneer |
| Hornets on Sunday on 12:13 - Sep 6 by EllDale |
It's still a massive gamble.
Marketing group IMG are unveiling their plans to revamp the sport next week to RFL officials and all 37 professional clubs will learn of the proposals at a meeting on September 27th.
Worse case scenario is that Hornets could be fighting for promotion to a division that isn't going to exist in the future. |
Or left in a division that is even less likely to exist.
Bigger concern than the capacity on sunday is him finding enough players to name a full squad.
No other owner has presided over having to name an incomplete squad. Thats what you get when the period for loans ends and you are left with a bare bones squad.
Those ‘unavailable’ (not injured or suspended) will probably show their faces for the play offs though. Lets face it who would want to face an unbeaten keighley team if you know you can take a week off and be welcomed back to play a struggling Oldham team. | | | |
| Hornets on Sunday on 06:17 - Sep 7 with 1739 views | HullDale |
Chatting to an Oldham supporting mate - apparently there are rumours that priority is being given for tickets to Hornets fans. Surely with the home gates they have had, they'd be best just burning through the 954 as quickly as possible so they know they can afford to open the rest of the stand and then sell through that too?
Surely Mazey wouldn't purposefully slow down ticket sales to continue the narrative that RAFC are to blame for falling income? It'd take a special kind of chairman to prioritise his own & agenda over the good of his club.
Hmmm |  | | |
| Hornets on Sunday on 08:16 - Sep 7 with 1630 views | RAFCBLUE |
| Hornets on Sunday on 06:17 - Sep 7 by HullDale |
Chatting to an Oldham supporting mate - apparently there are rumours that priority is being given for tickets to Hornets fans. Surely with the home gates they have had, they'd be best just burning through the 954 as quickly as possible so they know they can afford to open the rest of the stand and then sell through that too?
Surely Mazey wouldn't purposefully slow down ticket sales to continue the narrative that RAFC are to blame for falling income? It'd take a special kind of chairman to prioritise his own & agenda over the good of his club.
Hmmm |
https://stats.rugbyleaguerecords.com/teamseason.php?cat=14&subcat=2022
In their League games attendances were:
vs North Wales Crusaders - 448
vs Hunslet - 415
vs Oldham - 920
vs Midlands Hurricanes - 327
vs Doncaster - 354
vs London Skolars - 373
vs Swinton Lions - 642
vs Cornwall - 338
vs West Wales - 215
Averaging 424 off those numbers which at 954 gives room for 500 extras.
I noticed they are charging £16 for adults and its not included in the season ticket for Hornets fans so on 954 that gate receipts at £15k! [Post edited 7 Sep 2022 8:19]
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| Hornets on Sunday on 08:41 - Sep 7 with 1589 views | RAFCBLUE |
From what I've seen in 2022, nothing really fits the narrative being portrayed. | |
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| Hornets on Sunday on 08:47 - Sep 7 with 1564 views | Dalenet |
| Hornets on Sunday on 08:16 - Sep 7 by RAFCBLUE |
https://stats.rugbyleaguerecords.com/teamseason.php?cat=14&subcat=2022
In their League games attendances were:
vs North Wales Crusaders - 448
vs Hunslet - 415
vs Oldham - 920
vs Midlands Hurricanes - 327
vs Doncaster - 354
vs London Skolars - 373
vs Swinton Lions - 642
vs Cornwall - 338
vs West Wales - 215
Averaging 424 off those numbers which at 954 gives room for 500 extras.
I noticed they are charging £16 for adults and its not included in the season ticket for Hornets fans so on 954 that gate receipts at £15k! [Post edited 7 Sep 2022 8:19]
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Hornets were giving away tickets earlier in the season and they are now down to the rump of the paying support. There were 159 sat in the stands for the West Wales game 2 weeks ago. The official attendance was 215. So I can only assume that 56 fans were sat in hospitality boxes. And don't forget that the 159 included away fans.
What does that tell us? That they barely have more than 100 season ticket holders, or that gate receipts rarely reach four figures post VAT? That isn't sustainable.
Interesting that even though Mazey paid to open the whole of the mainstand for the Swinton game, there were still only 642 there. So he has a decision to make now - pay for the whole stand and fill it with Oldham supporters, or spit the dummy out and blame the football club so it can be somebody else's fault if they lose the game. (I hope they don't by the way) [Post edited 7 Sep 2022 8:52]
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| Hornets on Sunday on 08:54 - Sep 7 with 1554 views | RAFCBLUE |
| Hornets on Sunday on 08:47 - Sep 7 by Dalenet |
Hornets were giving away tickets earlier in the season and they are now down to the rump of the paying support. There were 159 sat in the stands for the West Wales game 2 weeks ago. The official attendance was 215. So I can only assume that 56 fans were sat in hospitality boxes. And don't forget that the 159 included away fans.
What does that tell us? That they barely have more than 100 season ticket holders, or that gate receipts rarely reach four figures post VAT? That isn't sustainable.
Interesting that even though Mazey paid to open the whole of the mainstand for the Swinton game, there were still only 642 there. So he has a decision to make now - pay for the whole stand and fill it with Oldham supporters, or spit the dummy out and blame the football club so it can be somebody else's fault if they lose the game. (I hope they don't by the way) [Post edited 7 Sep 2022 8:52]
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The attendance figures don't lie and you are right that excluding VAT there is very little left over.
You would have thought it is a no brainer to market a derby game.
Biggest attendance this season has been 963 looking at that list.
It clearly blows a massive hole in the pitched narrative if the whole stand is available and the interest isn't there or even worse the whole stand is full of Oldham fans.
I'd expect a "blame the football club" narrative to persist - it you look at the OP from early 2022 it has been this way for nearly 9 months. | |
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