🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 01:18 - Sep 29 with 224238 views | Dr_Parnassus | Who will be watching? First one kicks off in 24 hours time. The Democrats have pulled Joe back from his campaign trail recently to get him prepared, so hopefully it will be a decent exchange. Unfortunately they don’t seem to have great confidence as they have spent the last month looking for any dirt they can dig up so Joe can use if he gets stuck. It’s no coincidence that this vote influencing Facebook algorithm story is being shamelessly and inaccurately made into a race issue on the eve of the debates. So transparent and disingenuous, it’s a shame politics has come to this on this level where black people are being used in this way to score political points. I would be furious if I was them, but it does seem a lot of people are not falling for this one and calling it out for what it is. People finally seem to be getting wise to this political race baiting which is refreshing to see. It’s also telling that in the week of the debate they try and paint Trump as a tax evasion offender. I think that’s what they wanted the tax returns to show, they seem to have got annoyed when it turns out his tax returns were fine in accordance to what his companies profits were - but decided to run with it anyway. Any news is good news in their mind as it’s another thing Joe can use when in a tricky spot. But I hope the discussions remain political and doesn’t turn into some form of gossip peddling reality TV episode. Although I think there should be some kind of drinking game involved if it does turn that way, how many times Biden completely loses his thread of thought and blurts out “I mean, think about it...” you have to take a shot. I will be watching with great interest anyway.
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 23:47 - Nov 4 with 1304 views | Highjack |
🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 23:04 - Nov 4 by FieryJack | What on earth are you on about? Socialism in America? Absolutely no chance. Democrats in the US are as far from a socialist party as the Lib Dems are over here. Sure, it's easy to scaremonger the Cuban and Venuzualen population of Florida into voting for Trump by declaring the Democratic Party socialist, which is exactly what Trump did. But if you really believe that the US, under a Biden administration, would become a socialist state the you truly are off your rocker. 🤣 Jeez, Gradgrind, I can feel your pain, I truly can. You must be sweating cobs right now. |
Yeah most of the Democrat’s major players would be quite far right of the Tory party if they were British politicians. As soon as the votes are secured they’ll dump all the woke nonsense and won’t be seen for dust. |  |
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 23:52 - Nov 4 with 1299 views | majorraglan |
🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 23:23 - Nov 4 by Dr_Parnassus | The internal strife in the US was and is Democrat doing, not Trump or Republican. It’s ANTIFA and BLM burning cities to the ground and terrorising the community not Trump or his party. The history books will show incredible strides within the US and internationally on a scale I haven’t seen in my lifetime. It is these successes which has sent the left into meltdown looking for anything and everything to talk about other than that, hence why we spent a month talking about him walking down a ramp. |
I reckon that’s bull and that he has played his part in fuelling the unrest. Some good, some bad. |  | |  |
🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 23:56 - Nov 4 with 1290 views | Dr_Parnassus |
🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 23:52 - Nov 4 by majorraglan | I reckon that’s bull and that he has played his part in fuelling the unrest. Some good, some bad. |
In what way? Be specific. [Post edited 4 Nov 2020 23:56]
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 00:11 - Nov 5 with 1275 views | Dr_Parnassus | As I said, I hope people are re-evaluating the misinformation they have been fed and duly spread. A lot of people scratching their heads today unable to understand what’s been obvious all along. |  |
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 00:13 - Nov 5 with 1270 views | Highjack |
🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 23:45 - Nov 4 by DJack | She didn't come after a Trump term in office. |
No she came after eight years of Obama who if you listen to the media was the greatest president in the history of presidents. |  |
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 00:23 - Nov 5 with 1258 views | DJack |
🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 00:13 - Nov 5 by Highjack | No she came after eight years of Obama who if you listen to the media was the greatest president in the history of presidents. |
Yes but a lifelong Republican was head of the FBI and he opened up an inquiry into her JUST BEFORE the election (sound familiar).HRC was demonised daily for years by the Repubs. They tried to pin shit on her for Benghazi with SEVEN different hostile inquiries and failed. They pushed "her emails" whilst ignoring the fact that it was a done thing then and they turned a blind eye when a Republican Senator wiped his server so it could not be looked into. |  |
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 00:32 - Nov 5 with 1250 views | Dr_Parnassus |
🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 00:23 - Nov 5 by DJack | Yes but a lifelong Republican was head of the FBI and he opened up an inquiry into her JUST BEFORE the election (sound familiar).HRC was demonised daily for years by the Repubs. They tried to pin shit on her for Benghazi with SEVEN different hostile inquiries and failed. They pushed "her emails" whilst ignoring the fact that it was a done thing then and they turned a blind eye when a Republican Senator wiped his server so it could not be looked into. |
This Republican? |  |
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 00:38 - Nov 5 with 1243 views | DJack |
🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 00:32 - Nov 5 by Dr_Parnassus | This Republican? |
He was a lifelong Republican you fool. After Trump threw him under the bus he has fought back against him. Not everyone is as easily led as you think. |  |
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 00:43 - Nov 5 with 1238 views | Dr_Parnassus |
🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 00:38 - Nov 5 by DJack | He was a lifelong Republican you fool. After Trump threw him under the bus he has fought back against him. Not everyone is as easily led as you think. |
Comey is about as honest and Republican as you are. He affiliates with who he thinks benefits him, for most of his life that was Republican. |  |
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 00:54 - Nov 5 with 1231 views | DJack | "Republicans closely resemble autocratic parties in Hungary and Turkey — study Swedish university finds ‘dramatic shift’ in GOP under Trump, shunning democratic norms and encouraging violence" https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/26/republican-party-autocratic-hung |  |
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 00:59 - Nov 5 with 1228 views | Dr_Parnassus |
🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 00:43 - Nov 5 by Dr_Parnassus |
Comey is about as honest and Republican as you are. He affiliates with who he thinks benefits him, for most of his life that was Republican. |
For clarity - I don’t believe Comey is either very honest or Republican, for any doubt that lingered. |  |
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 01:13 - Nov 5 with 1219 views | DJack | Currently, Joe has the largest popular vote lead in American History... |  |
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 01:17 - Nov 5 with 1214 views | Dr_Parnassus |
🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 01:13 - Nov 5 by DJack | Currently, Joe has the largest popular vote lead in American History... |
Trump has the second highest popular vote tally in history. We can both do that see. |  |
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 01:18 - Nov 5 with 1206 views | Highjack |
🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 01:13 - Nov 5 by DJack | Currently, Joe has the largest popular vote lead in American History... |
That’s to be expected, Joe Biden is without doubt one of the most inspirational and talented human beings that has ever lived. It’s no surprise Americans are flocking to him in their droves. |  |
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 01:19 - Nov 5 with 1206 views | DJack |
🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 01:17 - Nov 5 by Dr_Parnassus | Trump has the second highest popular vote tally in history. We can both do that see. |
First placed loser. |  |
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 01:26 - Nov 5 with 1196 views | Dr_Parnassus |
🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 01:19 - Nov 5 by DJack | First placed loser. |
That’s exactly how I would describe Biden, yes. |  |
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 01:42 - Nov 5 with 1191 views | DJack |
🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 01:26 - Nov 5 by Dr_Parnassus | That’s exactly how I would describe Biden, yes. |
In a way you are correct as the venal Republicans will stymie everything he tries no matter the cost to the US. BUT as you know Trump is the first place loser on this ocassion. It was never going to be a landslide but Trump should have lost by more than it is likely to be. A quarter of a million American dead due to his mismanagment of the pandemic...think about that! |  |
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 01:51 - Nov 5 with 1189 views | Dr_Parnassus |
🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 01:42 - Nov 5 by DJack |
In a way you are correct as the venal Republicans will stymie everything he tries no matter the cost to the US. BUT as you know Trump is the first place loser on this ocassion. It was never going to be a landslide but Trump should have lost by more than it is likely to be. A quarter of a million American dead due to his mismanagment of the pandemic...think about that! |
I’m not right in a way, I’m right the whole way. He “won” the election but he lost the Presidency after being made to pick Kamala. He will be as much President as I will be. I love the way you say it was never going to be a landslide after it widely being reported it would be. I don’t have to think of anything because it’s disinformation again, it’s a global pandemic - people die. Had Biden been in charge the numbers would probably have been the numbers that were forecast and not the low number they are currently in comparison. |  |
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 02:40 - Nov 5 with 1175 views | Joe_bradshaw | Interesting 75,000 votes just called in Arizona which broke 59-41 Trump. If the remaining votes to be counted in Arizona break the same way it’ll be about a dead heat. |  |
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 05:47 - Nov 5 with 1155 views | Dr_Winston |
🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 23:19 - Nov 4 by majorraglan | I think the history books will paint a mixed picture, the peace initiative in the middle east is really positive he if it can build up momentum it could be a really monumental achievement, his efforts to engage its North Korea are also ground breaking. The downside will be internal strife in the US, environmental issues /climate change and depending on who actually wins the election there may be some fall out in relation the impeachment process. |
Bit like Nixon. The good he's done will be hugely overshadowed by how crooked he is. The work in the ME is great. He's taken good steps with Korea too. He's looked to bring a lot of troops home and has done considerably less bombing than most of his predecessors. Unfortunately he's done nothing to deter the extreme right elements (again in fairness Biden hasn't said a peep about the loonies on his side either) his Covid response has been idiotic, his environmental reaction has been negligible and the attempts to rig this election earn him nothing but contempt. He'll go down on the list as one of the worst Presidents, and quite rightly. Warren Harding will run him close but other than that there's nobody. Even the one who died about a month after his inauguration will be above him because at least he didn't screw anything up. |  |
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 05:54 - Nov 5 with 1148 views | Dr_Parnassus |
🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 05:47 - Nov 5 by Dr_Winston | Bit like Nixon. The good he's done will be hugely overshadowed by how crooked he is. The work in the ME is great. He's taken good steps with Korea too. He's looked to bring a lot of troops home and has done considerably less bombing than most of his predecessors. Unfortunately he's done nothing to deter the extreme right elements (again in fairness Biden hasn't said a peep about the loonies on his side either) his Covid response has been idiotic, his environmental reaction has been negligible and the attempts to rig this election earn him nothing but contempt. He'll go down on the list as one of the worst Presidents, and quite rightly. Warren Harding will run him close but other than that there's nobody. Even the one who died about a month after his inauguration will be above him because at least he didn't screw anything up. |
Trump has denounced extremist groups more than any other president in history (38 times for those mythical white supremacist groups that are like ghosts that nobody sees)... and looked to put more domestic groups on the terror list than any other. In fact wasn’t he the first President to list the KKK as a domestic terror group? I think you are getting taken in by the dishonest and fraudulent media narrative there. He will go down as possibly the most successful President in 50-60 years. His achievements have been incredible. What people are clinging to is a global pandemic that affected the world and Democrat riots. Neither which stand up to any sort of scrutiny... oh and he said “pussy” before, keep forgetting about that one. The left have spent 4 years trying to discredit his achievements because they wanted him to fail. When he did the opposite they decided to destroy their cities and blame him for it. The history books will know that. He has gained ground with every demographic there is apart from white men, that’s because they have been vilified for supporting him. The man is a juggernaut and it took billions of dollars and years of collusion and dishonesty by other to unseat him by a gnats ball bag. [Post edited 5 Nov 2020 6:03]
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 06:30 - Nov 5 with 1131 views | Dr_Parnassus | It looks like someone who has been dead 36 years managed to vote in Michigan. Thats impressive. |  |
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 06:32 - Nov 5 with 1130 views | Dr_Parnassus |
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 06:42 - Nov 5 with 1121 views | Boundy | I am unbiased towards either candidate but from what I've seen and read so far regarding voter fraud, there appears to be more showing Democratic misdemeanors than Republican , If i'm wrong fine but so far very little showing anything as the scale reported on social media. |  |
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 06:48 - Nov 5 with 1120 views | Jack_Kass |
🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 06:30 - Nov 5 by Dr_Parnassus | It looks like someone who has been dead 36 years managed to vote in Michigan. Thats impressive. |
Point out in the supporting text were either vote was processed (you can't) |  |
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