| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 01:18 - Sep 29 with 224251 views | Dr_Parnassus |
Who will be watching? First one kicks off in 24 hours time.
The Democrats have pulled Joe back from his campaign trail recently to get him prepared, so hopefully it will be a decent exchange.
Unfortunately they don’t seem to have great confidence as they have spent the last month looking for any dirt they can dig up so Joe can use if he gets stuck.
It’s no coincidence that this vote influencing Facebook algorithm story is being shamelessly and inaccurately made into a race issue on the eve of the debates. So transparent and disingenuous, it’s a shame politics has come to this on this level where black people are being used in this way to score political points. I would be furious if I was them, but it does seem a lot of people are not falling for this one and calling it out for what it is.
People finally seem to be getting wise to this political race baiting which is refreshing to see.
It’s also telling that in the week of the debate they try and paint Trump as a tax evasion offender. I think that’s what they wanted the tax returns to show, they seem to have got annoyed when it turns out his tax returns were fine in accordance to what his companies profits were - but decided to run with it anyway. Any news is good news in their mind as it’s another thing Joe can use when in a tricky spot.
But I hope the discussions remain political and doesn’t turn into some form of gossip peddling reality TV episode.
Although I think there should be some kind of drinking game involved if it does turn that way, how many times Biden completely loses his thread of thought and blurts out “I mean, think about it...” you have to take a shot. 
I will be watching with great interest anyway.
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 08:34 - Nov 4 with 1190 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 08:29 - Nov 4 by FieryJack |
Don't know whether this is true or not, but according to Radio 4, Trump is trying to block the counting of millions of perfectly legitimate postal votes in the state of Pennsylvania.
Why would he do this?
And how democratic is that?
If true, that's disgraceful.
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I can answer.
It’s not true.
Pennsylvania is a Democrat run state with Democratic courts and the Democrat Attorney General from that State pretty much ensured a Biden win publicly yesterday.
Through these same people they have changed the rules to stop signature matching on ballots and also stopped the date stamps ensuring that votes counted are only from the pre poll closure time.
Trump got out to a 700,000 lead and they stopped counting. There is a very real concern that they will now “find” votes with nothing to say when they were added.
Trump has said he wants to ensure any votes counted were cast within the legal timeframe.
That simple. | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 08:39 - Nov 4 with 1174 views | Dr_Parnassus |
A minute silence for the actual fraudsters of the election and all the sheep that followed them without any critical thought whatsoever.
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 08:45 - Nov 4 with 1162 views | pikeypaul |
Dr_Parnasus. I've not put on the radio or TV this morning and just get my reading on the situation from the exchange price,what caused that sudden jump from 1.49 to 1.70 on Trump just now?
Can't see any excessive size orders,unlike the £20 million that laid Trump early this morning forcing him from 2.6 to 3.2. [Post edited 4 Nov 2020 8:57]
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 08:55 - Nov 4 with 1137 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 08:45 - Nov 4 by pikeypaul |
Dr_Parnasus. I've not put on the radio or TV this morning and just get my reading on the situation from the exchange price,what caused that sudden jump from 1.49 to 1.70 on Trump just now?
Can't see any excessive size orders,unlike the £20 million that laid Trump early this morning forcing him from 2.6 to 3.2. [Post edited 4 Nov 2020 8:57]
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1.55 is the highest it’s reached since they stopped counting.
It’s still fairly tight in Georgia even though there is just 7% left to count.
Also Pennsylvania seem to be mysteriously adding votes to the count already, another 400k seem to have appeared. Feels like something very off in Pennsylvania.
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 08:59 - Nov 4 with 1130 views | pikeypaul |
Betfair 25 mins ago 1.7 but back to 1.53 now take a look at the price graph. | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 09:07 - Nov 4 with 1126 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 08:59 - Nov 4 by pikeypaul |
Betfair 25 mins ago 1.7 but back to 1.53 now take a look at the price graph. |
It’s a fairly illiquid market at the moment meaning a fat finger can easily wipe the market for a few seconds, counting has stopped so it’s more likely to be that than anything.
Literally nothing has happened for the last couple of hours. 1.50 is about right considering where we are with Georgia. If Georgia is confirmed then you are looking around the 1.30 mark. [Post edited 4 Nov 2020 9:08]
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 09:32 - Nov 4 with 1092 views | pikeypaul |
I agree but it was not a "fat finger" that got it to 1.70 more like a predetermined trading action that snowballed,since it came back in with profit taking as quickly as it went out.
It just went 1.39 and the market is in control of the bots pushing it wherever they want within reason and it will remain that way until further announcements.
Like I say I've not put the radio or TV on so do you know when the next results and from what state are due to be announced ? [Post edited 4 Nov 2020 9:36]
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 09:46 - Nov 4 with 1084 views | onehunglow |
What a state to be in.
USA looks in terrible state where we are seeing the signs of a violent reaction if Trump were to win again.
We have a 77 yr old Biden who is leading a party that is deeply split and will do so if he gets in.
Utterly and bitterly divided which is meat and drink to Trump. |  |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 09:46 - Nov 4 with 1083 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 09:32 - Nov 4 by pikeypaul |
I agree but it was not a "fat finger" that got it to 1.70 more like a predetermined trading action that snowballed,since it came back in with profit taking as quickly as it went out.
It just went 1.39 and the market is in control of the bots pushing it wherever they want within reason and it will remain that way until further announcements.
Like I say I've not put the radio or TV on so do you know when the next results and from what state are due to be announced ? [Post edited 4 Nov 2020 9:36]
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Yeah it’s jumped to 1.70 again. Bizarre.
Don’t know is the short answer. Last I read, counting had stopped and haven’t seen any updates on my plotter since then. | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 09:46 - Nov 4 with 1083 views | Vincent_Vega |
what's happening in Wisconsin then? Biden turnaround? |  |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 09:50 - Nov 4 with 1071 views | Highjack |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 09:46 - Nov 4 by Vincent_Vega |
what's happening in Wisconsin then? Biden turnaround? |
Yes Biden leading by 7000 votes. Looks like it’s going to come down to Georgia. |  |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 09:51 - Nov 4 with 1068 views | Dr_Parnassus |
Yeah linked to Wisconsin. 1.90 Republicans to 1.50 Dems.
I thought Wisconsin had packed in for the night. | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 09:55 - Nov 4 with 1063 views | Highjack |
As things stand by my rudimentary counting skills, Biden is stuck on 265. Trump 280. That’s if nothing changes from the current position.
Edit: forgot Alaska - Trump 283. Obviously a lot can still change. [Post edited 4 Nov 2020 9:57]
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 09:59 - Nov 4 with 1055 views | Highjack |
If Biden holds on to Winsconsin and flips Georgia he’s in but he’s 150,000 votes behind with 94% counted. They haven’t counted Atlanta yet. [Post edited 4 Nov 2020 10:00]
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 10:03 - Nov 4 with 1052 views | onehunglow |
Ive seen many UA elections unfold but how just how little we know about Americans and how they vote.
They don't really seem to vote as per our "class " rationale where poorer states actually vote for a lying billionaire narcissist who really does take his own ball home if he doesn't win. | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 10:04 - Nov 4 with 1051 views | Dr_Parnassus |
Right, so they unexpectedly finalised and added Milwaukee’s absentee votes in which has tipped it in Bidens favour.
HJ you are correct if everything stays as it is Trump wins.
Georgia - Trump (102k lead 6% of the vote left)
Michigan - Trump (208k lead 19% of the vote left)
Pennsylvania- Trump (675k lead 36% of the vote left)
Wisconsin - Biden (8k lead 5% of the vote left)
The rest seem pretty stone wall. | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 10:11 - Nov 4 with 1032 views | 34dfgdf54 |
Trump was odds on, and now all of a sudden it's a pick'em again.
I have no idea about politics, but it does seem a bit strange how states Trump looked to have sowed up now are touch and go, due to mail votes? |  | | |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 10:17 - Nov 4 with 1022 views | FieryJack |
"Like I say I've not put the radio or TV on so do you know when the next results and from what state are due to be announced ?"
Stop bragging, Pikey.
Why don't you put the tv or radio on and find out for yourself?
I suspect you have, but think it's clever to pretend you're second guessing everything by looking at figures on the stock market as per your pal Gradgrind.
Stop sucking up to him.
Even he must find it somewhat pathetic to have such a drooling puppy in tow. [Post edited 4 Nov 2020 10:18]
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 10:19 - Nov 4 with 1017 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 10:11 - Nov 4 by 34dfgdf54 |
Trump was odds on, and now all of a sudden it's a pick'em again.
I have no idea about politics, but it does seem a bit strange how states Trump looked to have sowed up now are touch and go, due to mail votes? |
This is what Trump was genuinely concerned about. Ballots just mysteriously appearing.
No doubt we will see the same in Pennsylvania even though he has a 700k lead. | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 10:21 - Nov 4 with 1015 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 10:17 - Nov 4 by FieryJack |
"Like I say I've not put the radio or TV on so do you know when the next results and from what state are due to be announced ?"
Stop bragging, Pikey.
Why don't you put the tv or radio on and find out for yourself?
I suspect you have, but think it's clever to pretend you're second guessing everything by looking at figures on the stock market as per your pal Gradgrind.
Stop sucking up to him.
Even he must find it somewhat pathetic to have such a drooling puppy in tow. [Post edited 4 Nov 2020 10:18]
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He was correct. The market was reacting to the mysterious ballot dump after counting had ended.
Not pathetic at all. | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 10:27 - Nov 4 with 1011 views | Professor |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 10:04 - Nov 4 by Dr_Parnassus |
Right, so they unexpectedly finalised and added Milwaukee’s absentee votes in which has tipped it in Bidens favour.
HJ you are correct if everything stays as it is Trump wins.
Georgia - Trump (102k lead 6% of the vote left)
Michigan - Trump (208k lead 19% of the vote left)
Pennsylvania- Trump (675k lead 36% of the vote left)
Wisconsin - Biden (8k lead 5% of the vote left)
The rest seem pretty stone wall. |
I agree.
Over 400K votes (mainly in Atlanta) left in GA
More than 1.2M in PA.
Both are going to be within 1% either way. | | | |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 10:35 - Nov 4 with 1001 views | Dr_Parnassus |
Well you simply have to say Biden’s to lose from here if that is the state of play, I will be stunned if that isn’t looked at more closely.
If it happens in Pennsylvania too then questions will certainly be asked. That absentee dump must have had the highest concentration of Democratic votes in it than any absentee batch from any City in this election.
Mail in votes was always going to result in trust issues and potential legal wrangles. This is the type of scenario why that was going to be the case. Even the most one eyed Democrat must admit that sounds incredibly “off”. | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 10:36 - Nov 4 with 1000 views | Highjack |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 10:03 - Nov 4 by onehunglow |
Ive seen many UA elections unfold but how just how little we know about Americans and how they vote.
They don't really seem to vote as per our "class " rationale where poorer states actually vote for a lying billionaire narcissist who really does take his own ball home if he doesn't win. |
They’re all lying billionaire narcissists. | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 10:38 - Nov 4 with 994 views | onehunglow |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 10:36 - Nov 4 by Highjack |
They’re all lying billionaire narcissists. |
It's a matter of degrees ,high. | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 11:17 - Nov 4 with 949 views | Kerouac |
I can't quite believe what I'm seeing, but it appears that the Democrats are openly attempting to commit election fraud....mysteriously hundreds of thousands of votes get added to the remaining total to count at the 11th hour and these ballots contain an insanely high percentage of Democrat votes?
To quote 'sleepy'; "C'mon man!"
After this election the system needs cleaning up once and for good, votes should be in person and ID should be mandatory. If somebody is to ill to go vote themselves they should have to name somebody who will bring their ballot on the day and have this person ratified as legitimate in good time.
No votes submitted after the cut off point on polling day should be counted.
I genuinely think the result would already be a landslide Trump victory if it wasn't for all the cheating that went on already (harvesting votes).
It appears they planned to see how many extra votes they would need to come up with near the end of the count and then magically pull hundreds of thousands of ballots out of their arse. |  |
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