| Woolwich (non QPR) 17:48 - May 22 with 21212 views | simmo |
Readng the reports coming through, shocking stuff. It was a soldier apparently. I know 3 or 4 guys based at the Woolwich barracks but thankfully most went to Kenya last week.
Cut off a man's head next to primary school allegedly. In the middle of a weekday afternoon...
'One witness, identified as James, said he and his partner saw two black men attack a young man aged around 20 in a Help for Heroes T-shirt with kitchen knives like he was "a piece of meat".
He told LBC Radio: "They were hacking at this poor guy, literally.
"They were hacking at him, chopping him, cutting him.
"These two guys were crazed. They were just animals. They dragged him from the pavement and dumped his body in the middle of the road and left his body there."
He said that after the "horrendous" attack, the two men, in their 20s, just stood around, waving knives and a gun, even asking people nearby to take pictures of them "as if they wanted to be on TV or something".
He continued: "They were oblivious to anything, they were more worried about having their photo taken, running up and down the road.
"They had no intention of running off or leaving or anything. In my opinion, they were waiting for the police to arrive to be shot by the police. That's the only thing I can think. It's horrendous what they were doing to that guy."
Some "brave" women tried to shield the man on the ground from them, he added.
He also said that it was 20 minutes before armed police arrived at the scene.
"When the armed police came flying around the corner, the man with the beanie hat, the tall guy, he charged at the police vehicle.
"A shot was fired by the other guy with the gun. Six shots were fired, both men went down and we now know they are dead as well."'
http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/10436107.Police_called_to_Woolwich__shooting__
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| Woolwich (non QPR) on 17:51 - May 22 with 5119 views | Brightonhoop |
Farking savages!
BBC Confirmed......
Senior Whitehall sources have told the BBC that the Woolwich attackers are thought to have tried to film their attack whilst shouting "Allahu Akbar" - God is Great, says political editor Nick Robinson.
The men were said to have been of Muslim appearance.
The Prime Minister is expected to speak to the Home Secretary at 18:15 BST from a train to Paris about what is now being treated by government as a suspected terrorist attack, Mr Robinson says. |  | | |
| Woolwich (non QPR) on 17:51 - May 22 with 5115 views | DieByYourSide |
Christ alive. Absolutely shocking, horrific stuff. This thread could go some way judging by the right/left divisions I've seen on this board before. |  |
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| Woolwich (non QPR) on 17:54 - May 22 with 5091 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Woolwich (non QPR) on 17:51 - May 22 by DieByYourSide |
Christ alive. Absolutely shocking, horrific stuff. This thread could go some way judging by the right/left divisions I've seen on this board before. |
Nothing to do with right or left. God love the poor man. RIP. |  |
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| Woolwich (non QPR) on 17:55 - May 22 with 5089 views | Lblock |
My 1st thought after hearing reports was "muzzy extremists"
I see that's all but been confirmed
Ahhhhhh but there's extremists in all walks I hear the lefty do gooders shout
I despair at what this country is coming to |  |
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| Woolwich (non QPR) on 17:57 - May 22 with 5063 views | DieByYourSide |
| Woolwich (non QPR) on 17:54 - May 22 by BrianMcCarthy |
Nothing to do with right or left. God love the poor man. RIP. |
I completely agree.
I've already seen some shocking comments on Twitter though [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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| Woolwich (non QPR) on 17:58 - May 22 with 5058 views | eghamranger |
Could go pete tong in London. The riots started for less! |  | | |
| Woolwich (non QPR) on 17:59 - May 22 with 5048 views | Brightonhoop |
| Woolwich (non QPR) on 17:54 - May 22 by BrianMcCarthy |
Nothing to do with right or left. God love the poor man. RIP. |
Exactly Brian. ffs there will be serious repercussions for this. Woolwich is one of the safest places in the UK, directly around the barrack.And they are always prepared for attack and carry live rounds on site. Poor bloke. RIP. | | | |
| Woolwich (non QPR) on 17:59 - May 22 with 5043 views | Hayesender |
50 million Muslims in Europe, and Turkey will soon be in the eu.
Don't worry though lads, they're a peaceful people. Misunderstood but peaceful.
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| Woolwich (non QPR) on 18:04 - May 22 with 5006 views | Gloucs_R |
One word, cowards. |  |
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| Woolwich (non QPR) on 18:04 - May 22 with 5004 views | simmo |
Lets not turn this into a bullshit fckin race or religion slagging thread. I didnt post it for that. The only concern should be the guy this happened to, his family and friends it affects and the people that had to see it.
The motives at this point are 1) speculation and 2) mostly irrelevant
The people that did it were oviously unstable. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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| Woolwich (non QPR) on 18:05 - May 22 with 4992 views | Gloucs_R |
| Woolwich (non QPR) on 18:04 - May 22 by simmo |
Lets not turn this into a bullshit fckin race or religion slagging thread. I didnt post it for that. The only concern should be the guy this happened to, his family and friends it affects and the people that had to see it.
The motives at this point are 1) speculation and 2) mostly irrelevant
The people that did it were oviously unstable. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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unstable or believed they were doing something in Allahs name? | |
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| Woolwich (non QPR) on 18:09 - May 22 with 4965 views | simmo |
| Woolwich (non QPR) on 18:05 - May 22 by Gloucs_R |
unstable or believed they were doing something in Allahs name? |
At this point, who the fck cares.
This is NOT an incident that should be used to add fuel to the fires for the likes of the fcking EDL, its a tragedy and a sickening act performed by people that were obviously unhinged.
Save the racial aspersions for the Daily Mail comments section. | |
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| Woolwich (non QPR) on 18:15 - May 22 with 4908 views | parker64 |
| Woolwich (non QPR) on 18:09 - May 22 by simmo |
At this point, who the fck cares.
This is NOT an incident that should be used to add fuel to the fires for the likes of the fcking EDL, its a tragedy and a sickening act performed by people that were obviously unhinged.
Save the racial aspersions for the Daily Mail comments section. |
With the best will in the world why did you post it then? I mean, it's not as if you're new. The usual suspects are already here. | | | |
| Woolwich (non QPR) on 18:16 - May 22 with 4900 views | Hayesender |
| Woolwich (non QPR) on 18:04 - May 22 by simmo |
Lets not turn this into a bullshit fckin race or religion slagging thread. I didnt post it for that. The only concern should be the guy this happened to, his family and friends it affects and the people that had to see it.
The motives at this point are 1) speculation and 2) mostly irrelevant
The people that did it were oviously unstable. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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How can you not turn something that is obviously a religious murder of a young unarmed British soldier on the streets of London, not into a debate on Muslim extremists?
Wake the feck up | |
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| Woolwich (non QPR) on 18:17 - May 22 with 4899 views | six_foot_two |
| Woolwich (non QPR) on 18:09 - May 22 by simmo |
At this point, who the fck cares.
This is NOT an incident that should be used to add fuel to the fires for the likes of the fcking EDL, its a tragedy and a sickening act performed by people that were obviously unhinged.
Save the racial aspersions for the Daily Mail comments section. |
Well I fcking care this was a terrorist attack in central London on a UK citizen by Muslim extremists don't try and hide it as something different. |  | | |
| Woolwich (non QPR) on 18:18 - May 22 with 4883 views | Gloucs_R |
| Woolwich (non QPR) on 18:09 - May 22 by simmo |
At this point, who the fck cares.
This is NOT an incident that should be used to add fuel to the fires for the likes of the fcking EDL, its a tragedy and a sickening act performed by people that were obviously unhinged.
Save the racial aspersions for the Daily Mail comments section. |
If its muslim extremists of course it will put fuel on the fires and drive people towards the EDL.
Thats 3 or 4 Muslim attacks carried out in the past few years against people living in this country. I dont see Hindus or Sikhs attacking British people on the street in the name of their gods. | |
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| Woolwich (non QPR) on 18:18 - May 22 with 4875 views | essextaxiboy |
| Woolwich (non QPR) on 18:09 - May 22 by simmo |
At this point, who the fck cares.
This is NOT an incident that should be used to add fuel to the fires for the likes of the fcking EDL, its a tragedy and a sickening act performed by people that were obviously unhinged.
Save the racial aspersions for the Daily Mail comments section. |
To ignore what is obvious and staring you in the face from eye witnesses who actually saw it is just ridiculous .
In fact it undermines the fight against real prejudice. |  | | |
| Woolwich (non QPR) on 18:19 - May 22 with 4869 views | Rangersw12 |
| Woolwich (non QPR) on 18:09 - May 22 by simmo |
At this point, who the fck cares.
This is NOT an incident that should be used to add fuel to the fires for the likes of the fcking EDL, its a tragedy and a sickening act performed by people that were obviously unhinged.
Save the racial aspersions for the Daily Mail comments section. |
Its mindsets like yours that started this country going to the dogs
What will it take for you to wake up ?
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| Woolwich (non QPR) on 18:27 - May 22 with 4801 views | simmo |
Nobody knows thats what it is yet. This is all speculation. I posted it as it is news and pretty shocking even by modern standards for this to happen in broad daylight.
I would have thought the initial reaction would be to refer to the murdered man and the people on the street at the time that had to witness these atrocities. Not to jump straight on the 'Muslims are evil / get out our country' bandwagon.
Agreed my response may have been a little naive given how reactive these issues are, but a man was hacked to death in front of the public, the 'country going to the dogs' subject was the last thing I was thinking of.
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| Woolwich (non QPR) on 18:29 - May 22 with 4781 views | QPR_John |
| Woolwich (non QPR) on 18:27 - May 22 by simmo |
Nobody knows thats what it is yet. This is all speculation. I posted it as it is news and pretty shocking even by modern standards for this to happen in broad daylight.
I would have thought the initial reaction would be to refer to the murdered man and the people on the street at the time that had to witness these atrocities. Not to jump straight on the 'Muslims are evil / get out our country' bandwagon.
Agreed my response may have been a little naive given how reactive these issues are, but a man was hacked to death in front of the public, the 'country going to the dogs' subject was the last thing I was thinking of.
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'Muslims are evil / get out our country' bandwagon.
I do not think that was even suggested take a look back | | | |
| Woolwich (non QPR) on 18:31 - May 22 with 4763 views | runningman75 |
| Woolwich (non QPR) on 18:29 - May 22 by QPR_John |
'Muslims are evil / get out our country' bandwagon.
I do not think that was even suggested take a look back |
I think extremism is evil whether fascism or religiously based. Thoughts should be with the deceased soldiers family. Hopefully there will be a flood of donations to " Help for Heroes ". | | | |
| Woolwich (non QPR) on 18:34 - May 22 with 4727 views | essextaxiboy |
| Woolwich (non QPR) on 18:27 - May 22 by simmo |
Nobody knows thats what it is yet. This is all speculation. I posted it as it is news and pretty shocking even by modern standards for this to happen in broad daylight.
I would have thought the initial reaction would be to refer to the murdered man and the people on the street at the time that had to witness these atrocities. Not to jump straight on the 'Muslims are evil / get out our country' bandwagon.
Agreed my response may have been a little naive given how reactive these issues are, but a man was hacked to death in front of the public, the 'country going to the dogs' subject was the last thing I was thinking of.
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You see thats what happens , Where has anyone posted Muslims are evil . get out of my country ?
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| Woolwich (non QPR) on 18:35 - May 22 with 4721 views | simmo |
| Woolwich (non QPR) on 18:29 - May 22 by QPR_John |
'Muslims are evil / get out our country' bandwagon.
I do not think that was even suggested take a look back |
I was taking the example to the extreme, but people above are right, I was naive not to think this would turn into something inflammatory and different to my intentions. I posted it about the act, not the reasons behind it.
Also when I posted it, there was no inference it was motivated by extremists, just heard a soldier was involved. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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| Woolwich (non QPR) on 18:39 - May 22 with 4702 views | QPR_John |
| Woolwich (non QPR) on 18:35 - May 22 by simmo |
I was taking the example to the extreme, but people above are right, I was naive not to think this would turn into something inflammatory and different to my intentions. I posted it about the act, not the reasons behind it.
Also when I posted it, there was no inference it was motivated by extremists, just heard a soldier was involved. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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Bu surely you must see you cannot separate the act from the reasons behind it and where has the discussion become inflammatory as you put it. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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| Woolwich (non QPR) on 18:41 - May 22 with 4683 views | WanderR |
I would like to know what whose wishing us to "wake up" would like us to do. |  |
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