| David Davis + Boris on 09:51 - Jul 26 with 2640 views | stevec |
| David Davis + Boris on 09:00 - Jul 26 by FDC |
If you've never been involved in antifacist organising now would be a great time to start.
"Boris Johnson Has Been Privately Talking To Steve Bannon As They Plot Their Next Moves
One is a potential frontrunner to be the next UK prime minister; the other wants to help nationalists win in Europe"
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/lesterfeder/boris-johnson-steve-bannon?__tw |
I'm curious what you define as anti fascist.
Are you going to go after Corbyn and Momentum for their views on the Jews? |  | |  |
| David Davis + Boris on 09:56 - Jul 26 with 2638 views | THEBUSH |
| David Davis + Boris on 06:31 - Jul 26 by distortR |
Ah, but did the people who voted remain understand all these and agree with them when they voted to stay?!!
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I would have thought people voted to stay in the EU, because they wanted to stay in the EU? |  | | |
| David Davis + Boris on 12:27 - Jul 26 with 2540 views | Sharpy36 |
You have to love how they manage at every opportunity to shoe horn in talk of a second referendum. |  |
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| David Davis + Boris on 13:08 - Jul 26 with 2517 views | jonno |
Lineker - paid an obscene amount of money by the BBC. The BBC - funded directly and indirectly by the EU. Hmm..... |  | | |
| David Davis + Boris on 13:20 - Jul 26 with 2492 views | Mytch_QPR |
| David Davis + Boris on 13:08 - Jul 26 by jonno |
Lineker - paid an obscene amount of money by the BBC. The BBC - funded directly and indirectly by the EU. Hmm..... |
Not saying you are wrong, jonno - but I always believed (naively, perhaps) that the Beeb was funded by the licence fee. Even if our Govt subsidises further, I am surprised the EU helps to fund it. That said, this site is educational as well as informative and entertaining. |  |
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| David Davis + Boris on 13:32 - Jul 26 with 2462 views | Antti_Heinola |
| David Davis + Boris on 13:08 - Jul 26 by jonno |
Lineker - paid an obscene amount of money by the BBC. The BBC - funded directly and indirectly by the EU. Hmm..... |
yeah, there's no way he'd find any work if the beeb went tits up. |  |
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| David Davis + Boris on 13:34 - Jul 26 with 2456 views | Sharpy36 |
| David Davis + Boris on 13:20 - Jul 26 by Mytch_QPR |
Not saying you are wrong, jonno - but I always believed (naively, perhaps) that the Beeb was funded by the licence fee. Even if our Govt subsidises further, I am surprised the EU helps to fund it. That said, this site is educational as well as informative and entertaining. |
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/12059280/BBC-has-received-2m-in-EU-fundi | |
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| David Davis + Boris on 13:43 - Jul 26 with 2442 views | Mytch_QPR |
That's learnt me, then - as they say.
In any event, given the way the public finances are going we'd be hard pushed to afford a second referendum - unless perhaps we applied for an EU loan. | |
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| David Davis + Boris on 14:03 - Jul 26 with 2431 views | Antti_Heinola |
| David Davis + Boris on 13:43 - Jul 26 by Mytch_QPR |
That's learnt me, then - as they say.
In any event, given the way the public finances are going we'd be hard pushed to afford a second referendum - unless perhaps we applied for an EU loan. |
you'd be very, very hard pushed to read that and say the BBC is 'funded by' the EU. 'Has received funds from' would be accurate. In the grand scheme of things, that's not a lot of money - certainly not enough for the BBC to be relying on the EU in any form.
Besides, if, as Jonno hints at, everyone who in some small way relied on the EU for their work (which includes anyone from factory workers to City finance bods), I suspect the vote would have been a Remain landslide. It's laughable that Lineker has somehow been pressured from above to support the EU because of some one-off grants received by the Beeb that have zero to do with his area of work. Hilarious. | |
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| David Davis + Boris on 15:15 - Jul 26 with 2365 views | jonno |
| David Davis + Boris on 13:32 - Jul 26 by Antti_Heinola |
yeah, there's no way he'd find any work if the beeb went tits up. |
Of course he would find other work. But would he be paid the £8 million per year that the BBC reportedly pay him? Unlikely I would think, but you may know better. | | | |
| David Davis + Boris on 15:22 - Jul 26 with 2349 views | Maggsinho |
| David Davis + Boris on 15:15 - Jul 26 by jonno |
Of course he would find other work. But would he be paid the £8 million per year that the BBC reportedly pay him? Unlikely I would think, but you may know better. |
£8m? It was £1.75m in the last released set of salaries, still a lot obviously but not £8m. [Post edited 26 Jul 2018 15:23]
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| David Davis + Boris on 15:31 - Jul 26 with 2324 views | kensalriser |
The BBC's annual operating expenditure is nearly £5 billion.
The EU funding was £2 million over three years.
I can't be bothered to work out what percentage out of £5 billion one third of two million is, but it would be very close to fúck all. |  |
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| David Davis + Boris on 15:39 - Jul 26 with 2303 views | jonno |
| David Davis + Boris on 15:22 - Jul 26 by Maggsinho |
£8m? It was £1.75m in the last released set of salaries, still a lot obviously but not £8m. [Post edited 26 Jul 2018 15:23]
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Sorry - yes you are quite right, £1.75 to £1.79 million. Don't know where I got £8m from! Anyway, my point still stands. I wonder how many others on that list of people the BBC pay obscene money to are pro Brexit? I've yet to see one. What I'm really saying is that on this issue if you dig deep enough everyone has their own agenda. | | | |
| David Davis + Boris on 15:45 - Jul 26 with 2283 views | jonno |
| David Davis + Boris on 15:31 - Jul 26 by kensalriser |
The BBC's annual operating expenditure is nearly £5 billion.
The EU funding was £2 million over three years.
I can't be bothered to work out what percentage out of £5 billion one third of two million is, but it would be very close to fúck all. |
This says that the BBC received 258 million euros from the EU in the five years up to 2008.
https://www.parliament.uk/edm/2007-08/791 | | | |
| David Davis + Boris on 16:06 - Jul 26 with 2254 views | Sharpy36 |
| David Davis + Boris on 15:31 - Jul 26 by kensalriser |
The BBC's annual operating expenditure is nearly £5 billion.
The EU funding was £2 million over three years.
I can't be bothered to work out what percentage out of £5 billion one third of two million is, but it would be very close to fúck all. |
So why receive any funding at all then if that is the case. | |
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| David Davis + Boris on 16:27 - Jul 26 with 2215 views | BasingstokeR |
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| David Davis + Boris on 17:00 - Jul 26 with 2162 views | traininvain |
| David Davis + Boris on 16:06 - Jul 26 by Sharpy36 |
So why receive any funding at all then if that is the case. |
Expenditure is an outgoing. Presumably the £2m of EU funds is a grant of some sort. Not exactly difficult to see why the BBC would take this money if available. |  | | |
| David Davis + Boris on 17:01 - Jul 26 with 2154 views | kropotkin41 |
| David Davis + Boris on 09:51 - Jul 26 by stevec |
I'm curious what you define as anti fascist.
Are you going to go after Corbyn and Momentum for their views on the Jews? |
I thought it stank in here, turns out it was this filthy comment you left. I don't want to have run to teacher on the sly, so I'd better tell you that I reported it as abusive. Either you have no real understanding of how the right wing press uses libel against radicals and left wing politicians, you don't understand that there is a clear difference between criticising the State of Israel (an Apartheid state involved in ongoing genocide in Gaza) and being anti-Semitic, or you simply don't care because you're just another muck thrower hoping that some of it will stick on one of the most consistent campaigners against racism and anti-Semitism in British politics today.
https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/blog/jeremy-corbyns-record/ |  |
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| David Davis + Boris on 17:17 - Jul 26 with 2140 views | Sharpy36 |
Take this elsewhere. This is a Brexit thread. | |
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| David Davis + Boris on 17:38 - Jul 26 with 2110 views | Antti_Heinola |
| David Davis + Boris on 15:39 - Jul 26 by jonno |
Sorry - yes you are quite right, £1.75 to £1.79 million. Don't know where I got £8m from! Anyway, my point still stands. I wonder how many others on that list of people the BBC pay obscene money to are pro Brexit? I've yet to see one. What I'm really saying is that on this issue if you dig deep enough everyone has their own agenda. |
what is your point? That Lineker is supporting remain because he gets paid a lot of money by the BBC and if we left the EU, he might lose his job or be paid less? Or that the BBC are forcing him to tweet his opposition? Either way, it's quite a weird point to make. and as I said, loads of people in this country rely on EU subsidies and the benefits of the EU for their work, yet plenty of them voted to leave.
Thanks for the link you put up full that was, at best, vague, with zero corroboration or explanation, and supported by a whopping 11 people. Having done a search myself, even the Mail and the Express haven't made claims as obviously exaggerated and obfuscating as that one.
Here's a better one: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36149789 | |
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| David Davis + Boris on 18:09 - Jul 26 with 2075 views | distortR |
| David Davis + Boris on 08:47 - Jul 26 by hopphoops |
Do you understand how a helicopter feathering hinge works? Would you care when you need the air ambulance?
i was going to  you but I've just seen your so  |
tbh, a bit , but also trying to make the point that while the brexit supporters voted for a plunge into the dark with unknown ramifications now, the remainers have voted for something that has morphed and will continue to morph from it's original form, albeit at a much slower pace.
The castigation of those who voted out annoys me a bit, they were asked to make a choice by the powers that (unfortunately) be, and did so within the limits of their knowledge, as did those who voted remain. It's all you can do really.
Parts of Britain have been left to rot for decades, the 'sacrificial zones' served up on the alter of globalisation, are they really expected to vote for more of the same?
For myself, well we in the Isle of Man weren't given a vote and I'm quite glad of that, a total abdication of my democratic duty.
I keep hearing the 'you aligned yourself to boris etc' jibe, well, goldman-sachs supported the in campaign and my god, just look at the millions of people who have starved since hey got commodity trading laws altered.
Anyway, to save you time
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| David Davis + Boris on 19:12 - Jul 26 with 2036 views | derbyhoop |
| David Davis + Boris on 06:31 - Jul 26 by distortR |
Ah, but did the people who voted remain understand all these and agree with them when they voted to stay?!!
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It doesn't really matter. When somebody (Sharpy) claims he knew exactly what he was voting for, i don't see why I shouldn't challenge such a ludicrous claim. Christ, 2 years post-referendum you'd struggle to find a cabinet minister who understands a fraction of the challenges ahead. |  |
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| David Davis + Boris on 19:34 - Jul 26 with 2010 views | distortR |
| David Davis + Boris on 19:12 - Jul 26 by derbyhoop |
It doesn't really matter. When somebody (Sharpy) claims he knew exactly what he was voting for, i don't see why I shouldn't challenge such a ludicrous claim. Christ, 2 years post-referendum you'd struggle to find a cabinet minister who understands a fraction of the challenges ahead. |
I suppose I read it that Sharpy knew exactly what issues he was voting for in the broader sense, if you will.
Take your point, though. [Post edited 26 Jul 2018 19:35]
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| David Davis + Boris on 20:26 - Jul 26 with 1963 views | QPR_John |
| David Davis + Boris on 22:48 - Jul 25 by Maggsinho |
In your words:
“Surely the blessed EU would not stand by and see this country starve and it's sick die through lack of drugs”
Sure sounds like aid to me, but anyway if that’s not what you meant fair enough.
As to why we’ll be short of food, well we import 31% of our food from the EU which would now be held up at the border. Drugs along rely on a vast supply chain. And this isn’t just me being alarmist it’s what the government is talking about at the moment!
We’ll no longer be part of the EU open skies agreement meaning there is no agreement for British planes to fly without new agreements. If you’re an airlines captain and the company lawyer is telling you that you can’t fly because you don’t have any insurance it’s immaterial if you think it’s double standards, it’s the position we’ve put ourselves in. |
In your words:
“Surely the blessed EU would not stand by and see this country starve and it's sick die through lack of drugs”
Sure sounds like aid to me, but anyway if that’s not what you meant fair enough.
Sorry should have finished by adding "by holding up trade or applying arbitrary tariffs" but did not think it necessary
"We’ll no longer be part of the EU open skies agreement meaning there is no agreement for British planes to fly without new agreements"
Will there also be no agreement for EU planes to fly over our airspace. I assume you mean no agreement for British planes to fly over EU airspace. | | | |
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