| David Davis + Boris on 16:13 - Jul 20 with 2929 views | THEBUSH |
| David Davis + Boris on 14:32 - Jul 20 by Sharpy36 |
"While I am here, remember that 50% of our exports go to the EU. It's a numbers game, we cannot sign a deal or deals with other countries or regions which will come anywhere near that level"
That`s because of the CU. No tariffs are imposed on goods going out as well as coming in, like i said in an earlier post "A protectionist club". Now think if we struck up free trade and tariff agreements with other parts of the world, namely generally poorer parts ie Africa, india etc. It would`nt be lawyers, lobbyists and quangos linning their pockets it would be the populations of said countries. A more equal balance of wealth. |
So the reason you want to leave the EU is, give the poorer countries of the World a better deal, very commendable. |  | |  |
| David Davis + Boris on 16:37 - Jul 20 with 2888 views | Sharpy36 |
| David Davis + Boris on 16:13 - Jul 20 by THEBUSH |
So the reason you want to leave the EU is, give the poorer countries of the World a better deal, very commendable. |
No you`re right fcuk em, let em starve.
I voted to leave the EU for many reasons, trade comes lowly down that list of reasons. |  |
| 'You didn't know that was wrong, but now you do. If you do it again, I'll know you are doing it on purpose.' |
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| David Davis + Boris on 16:46 - Jul 20 with 2875 views | hopphoops |
| David Davis + Boris on 11:43 - Jul 19 by kensalriser |
Driving in Europe is borderline traitorous and should probably be banned anyway since the will of the people demands an end to free movement. |
The other day I pulled out of a parking space in rural France and headed down the road on the left hand side and started going the wrong way round a mini roundabout before I realized what I was doing. No-one coming the other way thank feck - scary though.
I haven't driven in the UK for at least a couple of years - maybe it was too many 16 hour work days, maybe it was my inner Brexiter. |  |
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| David Davis + Boris on 18:23 - Jul 20 with 2824 views | TacticalR |
| David Davis + Boris on 16:46 - Jul 20 by hopphoops |
The other day I pulled out of a parking space in rural France and headed down the road on the left hand side and started going the wrong way round a mini roundabout before I realized what I was doing. No-one coming the other way thank feck - scary though.
I haven't driven in the UK for at least a couple of years - maybe it was too many 16 hour work days, maybe it was my inner Brexiter. |
Driving on the left hand side in Europe would be a great way to demonstrate one's Hard Brexit credentials and show that a little bit of chaos is nothing to be afraid of. I am suprised Bojo didn't propose that in his resignation speech, especially as he didn't seem to have any other ideas. |  |
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| David Davis + Boris on 23:13 - Jul 20 with 2715 views | 2Thomas2Bowles |
| David Davis + Boris on 13:39 - Jul 20 by Ashdown_Ranger |
For the record, my quotes were 2017 or 2018.
Agreed, Labour have been as f***ing clueless as the Tories.
Only the LibDems have a coherent view on the EU, but they ain't going to get anywhere in the debate or have any influence at all.
I don't understand what world markets could realistically replace the EU, but I admire your optimism on how Britain is going to trade with and influence rest of the world after Brexit.
I think it unlikely Europe will agree a deal that is in anyway beneficial to the UK - they (understandably perhaps) want to make it as hard as possible for us as an example to other members who may be thinking about leaving.
We clearly differ in our view on industry's general reaction to Brexit. That is where the focus of talks/tariffs/free-trade is taking place.
But only around 20% of the UK's economy relies on industry - 80% is services-based. As far as I understand, there are to be no concessions/agreements on allowing us access to European services markets.
As the 2nd or 3rd biggest EU economy, if the UK was a Premier League club, we'd be arguably be Man U or Spurs.
We are voluntarily leaving the Premier League to play in the Conference (or whatever it's called these days), while telling everyone we have a great chance of qualifying for Champions League football. |
I thought we all hated the Premier League and we are being shafted by the FFP...Sounds a lot like the EU
Watching TM being spit-roasted in a EU/ German porn video makes us look so fecking great! |  |
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| David Davis + Boris on 14:48 - Jul 21 with 2616 views | QPR_John |
| David Davis + Boris on 13:39 - Jul 20 by Ashdown_Ranger |
For the record, my quotes were 2017 or 2018.
Agreed, Labour have been as f***ing clueless as the Tories.
Only the LibDems have a coherent view on the EU, but they ain't going to get anywhere in the debate or have any influence at all.
I don't understand what world markets could realistically replace the EU, but I admire your optimism on how Britain is going to trade with and influence rest of the world after Brexit.
I think it unlikely Europe will agree a deal that is in anyway beneficial to the UK - they (understandably perhaps) want to make it as hard as possible for us as an example to other members who may be thinking about leaving.
We clearly differ in our view on industry's general reaction to Brexit. That is where the focus of talks/tariffs/free-trade is taking place.
But only around 20% of the UK's economy relies on industry - 80% is services-based. As far as I understand, there are to be no concessions/agreements on allowing us access to European services markets.
As the 2nd or 3rd biggest EU economy, if the UK was a Premier League club, we'd be arguably be Man U or Spurs.
We are voluntarily leaving the Premier League to play in the Conference (or whatever it's called these days), while telling everyone we have a great chance of qualifying for Champions League football. |
" they (understandably perhaps) want to make it as hard as possible for us as an example to other members who may be thinking about leaving. "
Surely if is as good as we are being told and we are stupid to leave then there is no need to make us an example as other more sensible nations will bathe in the glory of the EU and not even contemplate leaving. |  | | |
| David Davis + Boris on 16:36 - Jul 21 with 2531 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
It's impossible to have a specific and detailed policy on Brexit without being in government, unless your sole aim is the reversal of it. This is Labour's take on it, but I disagree when people say they are clueless:
IMMIGRATION
Labour offers fair rules and reasonable management of migration. In trade negotiations our priorities favour growth, jobs and prosperity. We make no apologies for putting these aims before bogus immigration targets.
Freedom of movement will end when we leave the European Union. Britain’s immigration system will change, but Labour will not scapegoat migrants nor blame them for economic failures.
Labour will develop and implement fair immigration rules. We will not discriminate between people of different races or creeds. We will end indefinite detentions and distinguish between migrant labour and family attachment and will continue to support the work of the Forced Marriage Unit. We will replace income thresholds with a prohibition on recourse to public funds. New rules will be equally informed by negotiations with the EU and other partners, including the Commonwealth.
Whatever our trade arrangements, we will need new migration management systems, transparent and fair to everybody. Working with businesses, trade unions, devolved governments and others to identify specific labour and skill shortages.
Working together we will institute a new system which is based on our economic needs, balancing controls and existing entitlements. This may include employer sponsorship, work permits, visa regulations or a tailored mix of all these which works for the many, not the few.
Labour will protect those already working here, whatever their ethnicity. Our National Education Service will raise the level of skills and training. We will take decisive action to end the exploitation of migrant labour undercutting workers’ pay and conditions.
Labour will crack down on unscrupulous employers. We will stop overseas-only recruitment practices, strengthen safety-at- work inspections and increase prosecutions of employers evading the minimum wage.
Working with trade unions, we will end workplace exploitation.
Labour values the economic and social contributions of immigrants. Both public and private sector employers depend on immigrants. We will not denigrate those workers. We value their contributions, including their tax contributions.
For areas where immigration has placed a strain on public services we will reinstate the Migrant Impact Fund and boost it with a contributory element from the investments required for High Net Worth Individual Visas. Labour will restore the rights of migrant domestic workers, and end this form of modern slavery.
Labour will ease the underlying pressures in any areas struggling to cope with seven years of austerity by our programme of investments. We will not cut public services and pretend the cuts are a consequence of immigration.
Refugees are not migrants. They have been forced from their homes, by war, famine or other disasters. Unlike the Tories, we will uphold the proud British tradition of honouring the spirit of international law and our moral obligations by taking our fair share of refugees. The current arrangements for housing and dispersing refugees are not fit for purpose. They are not fair to refugees or to our communities. We will review these arrangements.
Labour welcomes international students who benefit and strengthen our education sector, generating more than £25 billion for the British economy and significantly boosting regional jobs and local businesses. They are not permanent residents and we will not include them in immigration numbers, but we will crack down on fake colleges.
INTERNATIONAL TRADE
Labour is pro-trade and pro-investment. The UK’s future prosperity depends on minimising tariff and non-tariff barriers that prevent us from exporting and creating the jobs and economic growth we need.
A Labour government will work with devolved administrations to bring forward an integrated trade and industrial strategy that boosts exports, investment and decent jobs in Britain.
Labour will set out our priorities in an International Trade White Paper to lead a national debate on the future of Britain’s trade policy. We will ensure proper transparency and parliamentary scrutiny of all future trade and investment deals.
The EU accounts for 44 per cent of our current exports and will continue to be a priority trading partner. As our trading relationship with the EU changes it is vital that we retain unrestricted access for our goods and services.
Through our Just Trading initiative launched in 2016, Labour will work with global trading partners to develop ‘best-in-class’ free trade and investment agreements that remove trade barriers and promote skilled jobs and high standards. We will ensure all future trade deals safeguard the right to regulate in the public interest and to protect public services.
Labour is committed to the rules-based international trading system of the World Trade Organisation (WTO). We will rejoin the Government Procurement Agreement, whilst safeguarding the capacity for public bodies to make procurement decisions in keeping with public policy objectives.
Labour will build human rights and social justice into trade policy.
We will ensure that trade agreements cannot undermine human rights and labour standards, and that UK Export Finance support is not available to companies engaged in bribery or corrupt practices.
We will work with other WTO members to end the dumping of state-subsidised goods on our markets. The Conservatives consistently blocked EU efforts to respond to such dumping with the duties needed to defend the British steel industry. Labour will develop the full range of trade remedies necessary to support key sectors affected by these unfair practices.
Labour will champion the export interests of SMEs, ensuring all new trade agreements include a commitment to support their market access needs.
We will develop an export incentive scheme for SMEs based on international best practice, and we will ring-fence Tradeshow Access Programme grants to help SMEs reach new customers around the world.
Labour will use the full range of export credit, finance, insurance and trade promotion tools to boost British exports and support priority industrial sectors.
We will create a network of regional trade and investment champions to promote the export and investment interests of businesses across the country, and we will include regional representation on overseas trade missions.
Labour is committed to growing the digital economy and ensuring that trade agreements do not impede cross-border data flows, whilst maintaining strong data protection rules to protect personal privacy. As part of our commitment to a low-carbon future, we will actively support international negotiations towards an Environmental Goods Agreement at the WTO. Labour will use trade negotiations to boost market access for British environmental goods and services, alongside support for investment into new green technologies and innovative low-carbon products.
Labour will develop capital investment schemes and other incentives to encourage investment into the UK, especially into target areas identified by the industrial strategy. We will champion the UK as a safe investment environment.
Labour will review our historic investment treaties with other countries, ensuring they are fit for purpose for the 21st century. Labour opposes parallel investor-state dispute systems for multinational corporations and we will open a dialogue with trading partners on alternative options that provide investor protection whilst guaranteeing equality before the law. [Post edited 21 Jul 2018 16:45]
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| David Davis + Boris on 23:37 - Jul 21 with 2395 views | GloryHunter |
David Davies saying "Brexit - time to start again" in the Express. Not online yet. |  | | |
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| David Davis + Boris on 00:47 - Jul 22 with 2357 views | hubble |
There's a poll on Facebook been running since 18th July - over 214K votes so far; currently 64% Leave, 36% Remain. I think the Remain support has possibly been exaggerated by the media, and if they were to get the second referendum they crave, they might get a bit of shock.... https://www.facebook.com/JackWDart/posts/1342386392531437 |  |
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| David Davis + Boris on 11:18 - Jul 22 with 2282 views | QPR_John |
| David Davis + Boris on 00:47 - Jul 22 by hubble |
There's a poll on Facebook been running since 18th July - over 214K votes so far; currently 64% Leave, 36% Remain. I think the Remain support has possibly been exaggerated by the media, and if they were to get the second referendum they crave, they might get a bit of shock.... https://www.facebook.com/JackWDart/posts/1342386392531437 |
Interesting
Before referendum. The result is final, a simple majority is all that is needed
After referendum. Not really the will of the people only 52-48 in favour of leaving and the 52 did not know what they were voting for
How would the establishment spin a 64-36 vote in favour of leaving. | | | |
| David Davis + Boris on 11:23 - Jul 22 with 2265 views | Watford_Ranger |
| David Davis + Boris on 11:18 - Jul 22 by QPR_John |
Interesting
Before referendum. The result is final, a simple majority is all that is needed
After referendum. Not really the will of the people only 52-48 in favour of leaving and the 52 did not know what they were voting for
How would the establishment spin a 64-36 vote in favour of leaving. |
I don’t think a random Facebook poll holds much water.
It’s clear now that it was a shocking issue to put to a referendum as it’s clearly a lot more complex than a binary stay/go decision. If this had been decided by those we elect to be educated about these things rather than Terry from Hull, there’s no chance we’d be in this mess. The genius Cameron’s move to shut up the far right of his party has worked brilliantly. | | | |
| David Davis + Boris on 21:02 - Jul 22 with 2142 views | hubble |
| David Davis + Boris on 11:23 - Jul 22 by Watford_Ranger |
I don’t think a random Facebook poll holds much water.
It’s clear now that it was a shocking issue to put to a referendum as it’s clearly a lot more complex than a binary stay/go decision. If this had been decided by those we elect to be educated about these things rather than Terry from Hull, there’s no chance we’d be in this mess. The genius Cameron’s move to shut up the far right of his party has worked brilliantly. |
A poll with a legitimate (now) 240,000 votes is not to be sniffed at. Most opinion polls sample a few thousand, if that. I think it holds water. And far from being a random poll, it was started by a Remainer who, as he states, is involved in the anti-Brexit campaign inspire.eu. I'd say it's backfired from that perspective. | |
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| David Davis + Boris on 21:50 - Jul 22 with 2103 views | QPR_Jim |
| David Davis + Boris on 21:02 - Jul 22 by hubble |
A poll with a legitimate (now) 240,000 votes is not to be sniffed at. Most opinion polls sample a few thousand, if that. I think it holds water. And far from being a random poll, it was started by a Remainer who, as he states, is involved in the anti-Brexit campaign inspire.eu. I'd say it's backfired from that perspective. |
TBH we know a thing about hijacking an online poll in these parts, not sure it really matters who starts it, it's more important who decides to divert traffic to the poll. |  | | |
| David Davis + Boris on 06:42 - Jul 23 with 1992 views | distortR |
| David Davis + Boris on 16:36 - Jul 21 by BazzaInTheLoft |
It's impossible to have a specific and detailed policy on Brexit without being in government, unless your sole aim is the reversal of it. This is Labour's take on it, but I disagree when people say they are clueless:
IMMIGRATION
Labour offers fair rules and reasonable management of migration. In trade negotiations our priorities favour growth, jobs and prosperity. We make no apologies for putting these aims before bogus immigration targets.
Freedom of movement will end when we leave the European Union. Britain’s immigration system will change, but Labour will not scapegoat migrants nor blame them for economic failures.
Labour will develop and implement fair immigration rules. We will not discriminate between people of different races or creeds. We will end indefinite detentions and distinguish between migrant labour and family attachment and will continue to support the work of the Forced Marriage Unit. We will replace income thresholds with a prohibition on recourse to public funds. New rules will be equally informed by negotiations with the EU and other partners, including the Commonwealth.
Whatever our trade arrangements, we will need new migration management systems, transparent and fair to everybody. Working with businesses, trade unions, devolved governments and others to identify specific labour and skill shortages.
Working together we will institute a new system which is based on our economic needs, balancing controls and existing entitlements. This may include employer sponsorship, work permits, visa regulations or a tailored mix of all these which works for the many, not the few.
Labour will protect those already working here, whatever their ethnicity. Our National Education Service will raise the level of skills and training. We will take decisive action to end the exploitation of migrant labour undercutting workers’ pay and conditions.
Labour will crack down on unscrupulous employers. We will stop overseas-only recruitment practices, strengthen safety-at- work inspections and increase prosecutions of employers evading the minimum wage.
Working with trade unions, we will end workplace exploitation.
Labour values the economic and social contributions of immigrants. Both public and private sector employers depend on immigrants. We will not denigrate those workers. We value their contributions, including their tax contributions.
For areas where immigration has placed a strain on public services we will reinstate the Migrant Impact Fund and boost it with a contributory element from the investments required for High Net Worth Individual Visas. Labour will restore the rights of migrant domestic workers, and end this form of modern slavery.
Labour will ease the underlying pressures in any areas struggling to cope with seven years of austerity by our programme of investments. We will not cut public services and pretend the cuts are a consequence of immigration.
Refugees are not migrants. They have been forced from their homes, by war, famine or other disasters. Unlike the Tories, we will uphold the proud British tradition of honouring the spirit of international law and our moral obligations by taking our fair share of refugees. The current arrangements for housing and dispersing refugees are not fit for purpose. They are not fair to refugees or to our communities. We will review these arrangements.
Labour welcomes international students who benefit and strengthen our education sector, generating more than £25 billion for the British economy and significantly boosting regional jobs and local businesses. They are not permanent residents and we will not include them in immigration numbers, but we will crack down on fake colleges.
INTERNATIONAL TRADE
Labour is pro-trade and pro-investment. The UK’s future prosperity depends on minimising tariff and non-tariff barriers that prevent us from exporting and creating the jobs and economic growth we need.
A Labour government will work with devolved administrations to bring forward an integrated trade and industrial strategy that boosts exports, investment and decent jobs in Britain.
Labour will set out our priorities in an International Trade White Paper to lead a national debate on the future of Britain’s trade policy. We will ensure proper transparency and parliamentary scrutiny of all future trade and investment deals.
The EU accounts for 44 per cent of our current exports and will continue to be a priority trading partner. As our trading relationship with the EU changes it is vital that we retain unrestricted access for our goods and services.
Through our Just Trading initiative launched in 2016, Labour will work with global trading partners to develop ‘best-in-class’ free trade and investment agreements that remove trade barriers and promote skilled jobs and high standards. We will ensure all future trade deals safeguard the right to regulate in the public interest and to protect public services.
Labour is committed to the rules-based international trading system of the World Trade Organisation (WTO). We will rejoin the Government Procurement Agreement, whilst safeguarding the capacity for public bodies to make procurement decisions in keeping with public policy objectives.
Labour will build human rights and social justice into trade policy.
We will ensure that trade agreements cannot undermine human rights and labour standards, and that UK Export Finance support is not available to companies engaged in bribery or corrupt practices.
We will work with other WTO members to end the dumping of state-subsidised goods on our markets. The Conservatives consistently blocked EU efforts to respond to such dumping with the duties needed to defend the British steel industry. Labour will develop the full range of trade remedies necessary to support key sectors affected by these unfair practices.
Labour will champion the export interests of SMEs, ensuring all new trade agreements include a commitment to support their market access needs.
We will develop an export incentive scheme for SMEs based on international best practice, and we will ring-fence Tradeshow Access Programme grants to help SMEs reach new customers around the world.
Labour will use the full range of export credit, finance, insurance and trade promotion tools to boost British exports and support priority industrial sectors.
We will create a network of regional trade and investment champions to promote the export and investment interests of businesses across the country, and we will include regional representation on overseas trade missions.
Labour is committed to growing the digital economy and ensuring that trade agreements do not impede cross-border data flows, whilst maintaining strong data protection rules to protect personal privacy. As part of our commitment to a low-carbon future, we will actively support international negotiations towards an Environmental Goods Agreement at the WTO. Labour will use trade negotiations to boost market access for British environmental goods and services, alongside support for investment into new green technologies and innovative low-carbon products.
Labour will develop capital investment schemes and other incentives to encourage investment into the UK, especially into target areas identified by the industrial strategy. We will champion the UK as a safe investment environment.
Labour will review our historic investment treaties with other countries, ensuring they are fit for purpose for the 21st century. Labour opposes parallel investor-state dispute systems for multinational corporations and we will open a dialogue with trading partners on alternative options that provide investor protection whilst guaranteeing equality before the law. [Post edited 21 Jul 2018 16:45]
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you say that, but...................oh, actually, it's pretty good as a statement of intent.
Would just like them to add;
'Labour will send armed forces to the Isle of Man to strip the House of Keys of it's power; and will instigate thorough and wide ranging investigations into corruption by local politicians and businessmen; will cap the civil service pensions and end early retirement among that sector as Labour understands that it is impossible that the working residents of the island can meet the projected £3.8 billion shortfall in the public service pension fund, especially as high net worth individuals are not expected to contribute to this deficit; and Labour will reintroduce grants/loans for students from the Isle of Man as Labour recognises that it is unfair for the future to have to pay for the sins of the past.,
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| David Davis + Boris on 07:56 - Jul 23 with 1952 views | CiderwithRsie |
| David Davis + Boris on 21:02 - Jul 22 by hubble |
A poll with a legitimate (now) 240,000 votes is not to be sniffed at. Most opinion polls sample a few thousand, if that. I think it holds water. And far from being a random poll, it was started by a Remainer who, as he states, is involved in the anti-Brexit campaign inspire.eu. I'd say it's backfired from that perspective. |
It is a fundamental of opinion polls that a large sample size tells you nothing about accuracy. The important thing is how representative it is. | | | |
| David Davis + Boris on 08:34 - Jul 23 with 1924 views | isawqpratwcity |
| David Davis + Boris on 06:42 - Jul 23 by distortR |
you say that, but...................oh, actually, it's pretty good as a statement of intent.
Would just like them to add;
'Labour will send armed forces to the Isle of Man to strip the House of Keys of it's power; and will instigate thorough and wide ranging investigations into corruption by local politicians and businessmen; will cap the civil service pensions and end early retirement among that sector as Labour understands that it is impossible that the working residents of the island can meet the projected £3.8 billion shortfall in the public service pension fund, especially as high net worth individuals are not expected to contribute to this deficit; and Labour will reintroduce grants/loans for students from the Isle of Man as Labour recognises that it is unfair for the future to have to pay for the sins of the past.,
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My sympathies. As shit governments go, yours is pretty bad.  |  |
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| David Davis + Boris on 08:39 - Jul 23 with 1916 views | hubble |
| David Davis + Boris on 07:56 - Jul 23 by CiderwithRsie |
It is a fundamental of opinion polls that a large sample size tells you nothing about accuracy. The important thing is how representative it is. |
And none of us have any idea of that. However, with now over a quarter of a million votes, from a poll that has been shared widely on Facebook - i.e. many remainers are likely to have been exposed to it, we cannot say it has no significance whatsoever. 250,000 legitimate votes (i.e. not bots or dupes) is a lot, by any stretch.
I suspect that perhaps some people don't like what it shows? | |
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| David Davis + Boris on 09:47 - Jul 23 with 1870 views | GloryHunter |
| David Davis + Boris on 08:39 - Jul 23 by hubble |
And none of us have any idea of that. However, with now over a quarter of a million votes, from a poll that has been shared widely on Facebook - i.e. many remainers are likely to have been exposed to it, we cannot say it has no significance whatsoever. 250,000 legitimate votes (i.e. not bots or dupes) is a lot, by any stretch.
I suspect that perhaps some people don't like what it shows? |
If it's people volunteering their opinions on facebook then it's not an audited randomised poll, is it? | | | |
| David Davis + Boris on 09:56 - Jul 23 with 1862 views | jonno |
| David Davis + Boris on 14:48 - Jul 21 by QPR_John |
" they (understandably perhaps) want to make it as hard as possible for us as an example to other members who may be thinking about leaving. "
Surely if is as good as we are being told and we are stupid to leave then there is no need to make us an example as other more sensible nations will bathe in the glory of the EU and not even contemplate leaving. |
Yep. Very good point. |  | | |
| David Davis + Boris on 10:03 - Jul 23 with 1851 views | QPR_John |
| David Davis + Boris on 09:47 - Jul 23 by GloryHunter |
If it's people volunteering their opinions on facebook then it's not an audited randomised poll, is it? |
But it would have been if it had come out in favour of remaining. That's how it works is it not. | | | |
| David Davis + Boris on 10:16 - Jul 23 with 1829 views | stevec |
| David Davis + Boris on 16:36 - Jul 21 by BazzaInTheLoft |
It's impossible to have a specific and detailed policy on Brexit without being in government, unless your sole aim is the reversal of it. This is Labour's take on it, but I disagree when people say they are clueless:
IMMIGRATION
Labour offers fair rules and reasonable management of migration. In trade negotiations our priorities favour growth, jobs and prosperity. We make no apologies for putting these aims before bogus immigration targets.
Freedom of movement will end when we leave the European Union. Britain’s immigration system will change, but Labour will not scapegoat migrants nor blame them for economic failures.
Labour will develop and implement fair immigration rules. We will not discriminate between people of different races or creeds. We will end indefinite detentions and distinguish between migrant labour and family attachment and will continue to support the work of the Forced Marriage Unit. We will replace income thresholds with a prohibition on recourse to public funds. New rules will be equally informed by negotiations with the EU and other partners, including the Commonwealth.
Whatever our trade arrangements, we will need new migration management systems, transparent and fair to everybody. Working with businesses, trade unions, devolved governments and others to identify specific labour and skill shortages.
Working together we will institute a new system which is based on our economic needs, balancing controls and existing entitlements. This may include employer sponsorship, work permits, visa regulations or a tailored mix of all these which works for the many, not the few.
Labour will protect those already working here, whatever their ethnicity. Our National Education Service will raise the level of skills and training. We will take decisive action to end the exploitation of migrant labour undercutting workers’ pay and conditions.
Labour will crack down on unscrupulous employers. We will stop overseas-only recruitment practices, strengthen safety-at- work inspections and increase prosecutions of employers evading the minimum wage.
Working with trade unions, we will end workplace exploitation.
Labour values the economic and social contributions of immigrants. Both public and private sector employers depend on immigrants. We will not denigrate those workers. We value their contributions, including their tax contributions.
For areas where immigration has placed a strain on public services we will reinstate the Migrant Impact Fund and boost it with a contributory element from the investments required for High Net Worth Individual Visas. Labour will restore the rights of migrant domestic workers, and end this form of modern slavery.
Labour will ease the underlying pressures in any areas struggling to cope with seven years of austerity by our programme of investments. We will not cut public services and pretend the cuts are a consequence of immigration.
Refugees are not migrants. They have been forced from their homes, by war, famine or other disasters. Unlike the Tories, we will uphold the proud British tradition of honouring the spirit of international law and our moral obligations by taking our fair share of refugees. The current arrangements for housing and dispersing refugees are not fit for purpose. They are not fair to refugees or to our communities. We will review these arrangements.
Labour welcomes international students who benefit and strengthen our education sector, generating more than £25 billion for the British economy and significantly boosting regional jobs and local businesses. They are not permanent residents and we will not include them in immigration numbers, but we will crack down on fake colleges.
INTERNATIONAL TRADE
Labour is pro-trade and pro-investment. The UK’s future prosperity depends on minimising tariff and non-tariff barriers that prevent us from exporting and creating the jobs and economic growth we need.
A Labour government will work with devolved administrations to bring forward an integrated trade and industrial strategy that boosts exports, investment and decent jobs in Britain.
Labour will set out our priorities in an International Trade White Paper to lead a national debate on the future of Britain’s trade policy. We will ensure proper transparency and parliamentary scrutiny of all future trade and investment deals.
The EU accounts for 44 per cent of our current exports and will continue to be a priority trading partner. As our trading relationship with the EU changes it is vital that we retain unrestricted access for our goods and services.
Through our Just Trading initiative launched in 2016, Labour will work with global trading partners to develop ‘best-in-class’ free trade and investment agreements that remove trade barriers and promote skilled jobs and high standards. We will ensure all future trade deals safeguard the right to regulate in the public interest and to protect public services.
Labour is committed to the rules-based international trading system of the World Trade Organisation (WTO). We will rejoin the Government Procurement Agreement, whilst safeguarding the capacity for public bodies to make procurement decisions in keeping with public policy objectives.
Labour will build human rights and social justice into trade policy.
We will ensure that trade agreements cannot undermine human rights and labour standards, and that UK Export Finance support is not available to companies engaged in bribery or corrupt practices.
We will work with other WTO members to end the dumping of state-subsidised goods on our markets. The Conservatives consistently blocked EU efforts to respond to such dumping with the duties needed to defend the British steel industry. Labour will develop the full range of trade remedies necessary to support key sectors affected by these unfair practices.
Labour will champion the export interests of SMEs, ensuring all new trade agreements include a commitment to support their market access needs.
We will develop an export incentive scheme for SMEs based on international best practice, and we will ring-fence Tradeshow Access Programme grants to help SMEs reach new customers around the world.
Labour will use the full range of export credit, finance, insurance and trade promotion tools to boost British exports and support priority industrial sectors.
We will create a network of regional trade and investment champions to promote the export and investment interests of businesses across the country, and we will include regional representation on overseas trade missions.
Labour is committed to growing the digital economy and ensuring that trade agreements do not impede cross-border data flows, whilst maintaining strong data protection rules to protect personal privacy. As part of our commitment to a low-carbon future, we will actively support international negotiations towards an Environmental Goods Agreement at the WTO. Labour will use trade negotiations to boost market access for British environmental goods and services, alongside support for investment into new green technologies and innovative low-carbon products.
Labour will develop capital investment schemes and other incentives to encourage investment into the UK, especially into target areas identified by the industrial strategy. We will champion the UK as a safe investment environment.
Labour will review our historic investment treaties with other countries, ensuring they are fit for purpose for the 21st century. Labour opposes parallel investor-state dispute systems for multinational corporations and we will open a dialogue with trading partners on alternative options that provide investor protection whilst guaranteeing equality before the law. [Post edited 21 Jul 2018 16:45]
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You missed out the final sentence...
'..And by the end of a Labour government we will have sent the entire country skint again' |  | | |
| David Davis + Boris on 12:05 - Jul 23 with 1748 views | TacticalR |
As Oscar Wilde once said: 'There is only one thing worse than long posts, and that is quoting long posts'. | |
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| David Davis + Boris on 12:09 - Jul 23 with 1728 views | robith |
| David Davis + Boris on 00:47 - Jul 22 by hubble |
There's a poll on Facebook been running since 18th July - over 214K votes so far; currently 64% Leave, 36% Remain. I think the Remain support has possibly been exaggerated by the media, and if they were to get the second referendum they crave, they might get a bit of shock.... https://www.facebook.com/JackWDart/posts/1342386392531437 |
Massively so - bitter Remainer here who has long been saying to people wanging on about a second referendum that they may not like the outcome |  | | |
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