| Clydach murders on 13:43 - Oct 24 with 1608 views | exhmrc1 |
| Clydach murders on 13:28 - Oct 24 by angryjack |
You must be related to her or a bent copper.it all points to them..never trust the police..pigs |
I am not related to them or the police but the whole Morris story doesnt stack up. The programme claims that the taxi driver claims to have seen similar looking people walking up Vardre Road 1/2 mile away. These 2 guys were experienced coppers. They wouldnt be so stupid to walk half a mile up a busy road past numerous houses with traffic going past. They would not have taken that chance of people seeing them. They would had a getaway car ready nearby probably somewhere quiet. Then one departs the scene on foot walking over a little used mountain road. The only thing on that mountain is a number of farms and a chapel. Morris at the same time claims he walked 5 miles to his mothers house but decided to turn back a further 4 miles to the house he shared with his girlfriend. He had just had an argument with his girlfriend in the pub. The girlfriend claims she had let him in 4 hours before he claims he got home.This happens to be at the same time his girlfriends best friend and her family get killed with a bar. He over a year later claims he has left a chain there the night before when they had sex having previously told the police he had never been upstairs in the house where the chain was found.
If you believe all that I dont. Nothing to do with supporting the police. It doesnt stack up. |  | |  |
| Clydach murders on 13:49 - Oct 24 with 1602 views | trampie |
| Clydach murders on 13:15 - Oct 24 by exhmrc1 |
That is implied. Are you also believing the story that these 2 guys are going to walk along quite as busy road. One somehow doesnt leave and the other walks a 4 mile distance over a mountain road |
No apology then, you have let yourself down. |  |
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| Clydach murders on 14:02 - Oct 24 with 1583 views | onehunglow |
Wow,we are seeing ALL police getting called pigs here but no indignation so let me.
No other professional body is truting by the general public.Solicitors,accountants,urveyors well behind in any survey you like.
No other body of people do so much for les respect. If you stick to the Law,you're ok ,if not ,we see this crap.
Trouble is all emergency workers get abuse like this. Speak to Fire fighters/Paramedics who both get abuse ;speak to doctors and nurses.Angry jack illustrates just what problems we have when the very people who put their bodies on the line are insulted ALL of them.
My son in law is an ARV and Ive yet to meet a finer chap. One who has ,does and will go out into situations where cowards like angry jack are running away from.
Police run into trouble ,angry jack runs away and then slags them off when it suits his narrative. | |
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| Clydach murders on 14:10 - Oct 24 with 1579 views | Andy1300 |
| Clydach murders on 12:36 - Oct 24 by trampie |
You are making things up, I said I believe in the jury system and I accept the result.
I never referred to martial arts expert. |
That was me! |  |
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| Clydach murders on 14:20 - Oct 24 with 1572 views | Andy1300 |
| Clydach murders on 13:43 - Oct 24 by exhmrc1 |
I am not related to them or the police but the whole Morris story doesnt stack up. The programme claims that the taxi driver claims to have seen similar looking people walking up Vardre Road 1/2 mile away. These 2 guys were experienced coppers. They wouldnt be so stupid to walk half a mile up a busy road past numerous houses with traffic going past. They would not have taken that chance of people seeing them. They would had a getaway car ready nearby probably somewhere quiet. Then one departs the scene on foot walking over a little used mountain road. The only thing on that mountain is a number of farms and a chapel. Morris at the same time claims he walked 5 miles to his mothers house but decided to turn back a further 4 miles to the house he shared with his girlfriend. He had just had an argument with his girlfriend in the pub. The girlfriend claims she had let him in 4 hours before he claims he got home.This happens to be at the same time his girlfriends best friend and her family get killed with a bar. He over a year later claims he has left a chain there the night before when they had sex having previously told the police he had never been upstairs in the house where the chain was found.
If you believe all that I dont. Nothing to do with supporting the police. It doesnt stack up. |
And Dai Morris wouldn’t have been capable of forensically cleaning that house the way it was cleaned!
Too many inconsistencies with the police movements etc for there to be a guilty beyond reasonable doubt verdict.
What makes you such an expert on every topic? [Post edited 24 Oct 2020 14:21]
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| Clydach murders on 14:26 - Oct 24 with 1563 views | controversial_jack |
Police often do and will close ranks and protect each other, but in this case, it's so horrendous and young children were killed and an entire family wiped out they wouldn't cover it up
Why the evidence that may have helped in his defence wasn't released to the court i do not know | | | |
| Clydach murders on 14:37 - Oct 24 with 1547 views | exhmrc1 |
| Clydach murders on 14:20 - Oct 24 by Andy1300 |
And Dai Morris wouldn’t have been capable of forensically cleaning that house the way it was cleaned!
Too many inconsistencies with the police movements etc for there to be a guilty beyond reasonable doubt verdict.
What makes you such an expert on every topic? [Post edited 24 Oct 2020 14:21]
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What makes you an expert on things which go totally against evidence as in coronavirus. You are entitled to your view. I am entitled to mine but base mine on evidence.
Many like you claim conspiracy in the Morris case. You and I werent there. The people who heard the evidence were satisfied with it. Local knowledge of the local area tells me the rubbish the BBC stated is not going to be correct. 2 experienced and trained coppers are not going to walk to a murder scene where they would be noticed and 1 wouldnt have left his brother walk over a mountain road where he could be scene after the murder. I also dont believe the Morris story over the distance he walked along country roads with no pavements and his version was different to his girlfriends who claimed he was at home.
You and many others like to believe the conspiracy story yet 2 juries found him unanimously guilty. I trust 2 juries views over yours, Trampie and anybody else. He also had the best defence he could possibly have had. Good enough for AL Fayed to use out of choice over the death of his son. That should tell you everything. | | | |
| Clydach murders on 14:39 - Oct 24 with 1956 views | KeithHaynes |
| Clydach murders on 13:28 - Oct 24 by angryjack |
You must be related to her or a bent copper.it all points to them..never trust the police..pigs |
All of them ? |  |
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| Clydach murders on 14:42 - Oct 24 with 1948 views | KeithHaynes |
| Clydach murders on 10:23 - Oct 24 by Andy1300 |
Because it’s a cover up |
The defence could have called him ? | |
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| Clydach murders on 14:44 - Oct 24 with 1945 views | onehunglow |
I reflect on the people I served with and I recoil when I see comments like angry jacks.
No excuse.It' s a phrase leaned at the mother' s knee,typical of people who are the firt to call Police to sort out their whole lives the day when they have to call them. Only then,does the penny drop.
Ive known 2 police officers killed in the line of duty Keith so forgive me if I go off on one as regards comments like this. It aint on. | |
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| Clydach murders on 14:46 - Oct 24 with 1943 views | KeithHaynes |
| Clydach murders on 14:44 - Oct 24 by onehunglow |
I reflect on the people I served with and I recoil when I see comments like angry jacks.
No excuse.It' s a phrase leaned at the mother' s knee,typical of people who are the firt to call Police to sort out their whole lives the day when they have to call them. Only then,does the penny drop.
Ive known 2 police officers killed in the line of duty Keith so forgive me if I go off on one as regards comments like this. It aint on. |
I will stay quiet for now :-) | |
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| Clydach murders on 14:47 - Oct 24 with 1939 views | onehunglow |
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| Clydach murders on 15:08 - Oct 24 with 1920 views | majorraglan |
This is a post that has appeared on Facebook. I don’t know the author and can only assume it’s been written by the sister of Mandy Powell. It’s something everyone who has contributed to this thread should read.
I can't believe i am writing this today 21yrs after losing our Mam, sister Mandy and nieces Katie and Emily. What our family and children have gone through and are still going through has been horrendous. We all love and miss our family so much, and there's never a day goes by when we dont think of them and wish with all our hearts they were still here with us. We have always said and continue to say that there is or never has been any doubt whatsoever that the person who committed these cruel murders was David George Morris .
Throughout both trials we all sat in that court room every single day listening to the horrific injuries and suffering our family endured that night and what they went through will stay with us forever. We heard every bit of evidence against Morris and all the lies he said in court, claiming he was having an affair with my sister is untrue, Mandy was scared of him and use to call him a psycho. He said he met her on the friday morning and went to her house and thats when he left his chain there, this was a total lie because there were witnesses and phone records showing Morris was in his flat and made calls to his partner proving he was nowhere near Mandy's home.
Morris's campaigners claim the E FIT wasnt made public ?? It was in the South Wales Evening post June 29th 2002 !!! The witness who done the E fit and picked out one of the Police officers, said she had never seen him before and yet she went to the same gym as him !!
This along with other evidence and lies was heard by 2 court Judges and 24 jurors and after listening to it all, the right verdict was given in both trials and that was David George Morris was GUILTY.
Morris's supporters claim there to be new evidence, where is this new evidence ??? Three times The Criminal Cases Review Commission has gone through this case. We can't believe that there are still people out there that believe everything they've read in a book, especially as that book was written by someone who didnt attend court or even know Morris, and to claim that he is innocent and to portray him as just a normal 'Jack the lad' couldn't be further from the truth. We are a very close and strong family but No family should ever go through and continue to go through what we have.
During these last few years we have lost our sister Sandra, our brother Robert and our brother in law Ken and it has left us all totally devastated , but i hope they are looking down on us today and see that we will never ever give up fighting for our beautiful Mam, Mandy, Katie and Emily and to continue to make sure DAVID GEORGE MORRIS will never ever be released .
Thank you to all our family and friends for your support 😘 | | | |
| Clydach murders on 15:25 - Oct 24 with 1889 views | exhmrc1 |
| Clydach murders on 15:08 - Oct 24 by majorraglan |
This is a post that has appeared on Facebook. I don’t know the author and can only assume it’s been written by the sister of Mandy Powell. It’s something everyone who has contributed to this thread should read.
I can't believe i am writing this today 21yrs after losing our Mam, sister Mandy and nieces Katie and Emily. What our family and children have gone through and are still going through has been horrendous. We all love and miss our family so much, and there's never a day goes by when we dont think of them and wish with all our hearts they were still here with us. We have always said and continue to say that there is or never has been any doubt whatsoever that the person who committed these cruel murders was David George Morris .
Throughout both trials we all sat in that court room every single day listening to the horrific injuries and suffering our family endured that night and what they went through will stay with us forever. We heard every bit of evidence against Morris and all the lies he said in court, claiming he was having an affair with my sister is untrue, Mandy was scared of him and use to call him a psycho. He said he met her on the friday morning and went to her house and thats when he left his chain there, this was a total lie because there were witnesses and phone records showing Morris was in his flat and made calls to his partner proving he was nowhere near Mandy's home.
Morris's campaigners claim the E FIT wasnt made public ?? It was in the South Wales Evening post June 29th 2002 !!! The witness who done the E fit and picked out one of the Police officers, said she had never seen him before and yet she went to the same gym as him !!
This along with other evidence and lies was heard by 2 court Judges and 24 jurors and after listening to it all, the right verdict was given in both trials and that was David George Morris was GUILTY.
Morris's supporters claim there to be new evidence, where is this new evidence ??? Three times The Criminal Cases Review Commission has gone through this case. We can't believe that there are still people out there that believe everything they've read in a book, especially as that book was written by someone who didnt attend court or even know Morris, and to claim that he is innocent and to portray him as just a normal 'Jack the lad' couldn't be further from the truth. We are a very close and strong family but No family should ever go through and continue to go through what we have.
During these last few years we have lost our sister Sandra, our brother Robert and our brother in law Ken and it has left us all totally devastated , but i hope they are looking down on us today and see that we will never ever give up fighting for our beautiful Mam, Mandy, Katie and Emily and to continue to make sure DAVID GEORGE MORRIS will never ever be released .
Thank you to all our family and friends for your support 😘 |
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| Clydach murders on 15:28 - Oct 24 with 1882 views | trampie |
| Clydach murders on 14:44 - Oct 24 by onehunglow |
I reflect on the people I served with and I recoil when I see comments like angry jacks.
No excuse.It' s a phrase leaned at the mother' s knee,typical of people who are the firt to call Police to sort out their whole lives the day when they have to call them. Only then,does the penny drop.
Ive known 2 police officers killed in the line of duty Keith so forgive me if I go off on one as regards comments like this. It aint on. |
Here is a question for you Perch the police in my family are called ma'am when in work, if they were off duty and their subordinate officers were off duty in their presence would they still call them ma'am ? [Post edited 24 Oct 2020 15:33]
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| Clydach murders on 15:45 - Oct 24 with 1853 views | angryjack |
| Clydach murders on 14:39 - Oct 24 by KeithHaynes |
All of them ? |
Most of them yes | | | |
| Clydach murders on 15:50 - Oct 24 with 1844 views | onehunglow |
So most.Not all. Why backtrack?
What exactly are pigs vis a vis Police Officers.
You insult several posters who are serving and retired officers.
unacceptable and you should retract your comments | |
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| Clydach murders on 16:52 - Oct 24 with 1794 views | exhmrc1 |
| Clydach murders on 15:50 - Oct 24 by onehunglow |
So most.Not all. Why backtrack?
What exactly are pigs vis a vis Police Officers.
You insult several posters who are serving and retired officers.
unacceptable and you should retract your comments |
Trouble is many want to believe that the Police are behind this and will say anything to make that fit. Police conspiracy is an easy thing for people to believe. I am quite anti police myself but in this case the evidence only leads one way.
The Police made mistakes in the Clydach case. They decided not to involve the local CID some of whom knew the community like the back of their hands. They would have had greater cooperation had that been the case.
The high profile way they arrested the Lewis family didnt help either and has led people to claim corruption.
There are those who heard the woman's evidence on the BBC programme claiming Lewis was there and that now has been dispelled with what happened in court that none of us knew. Now wonder she wasn't used at the second trial . Makes you wonder what else in the programme was rejected for. No doubt the defence team had their reasons for not putting certain evidence forward and none of us know that.
I know the family has long believed they got the right man. | | | |
| Clydach murders on 17:21 - Oct 24 with 1762 views | angryjack |
| Clydach murders on 15:50 - Oct 24 by onehunglow |
So most.Not all. Why backtrack?
What exactly are pigs vis a vis Police Officers.
You insult several posters who are serving and retired officers.
unacceptable and you should retract your comments |
Not retracting nothing had first hand experience of lying police officers (pigs)....and most are corrupt and look after themselves and turn blind eye for their " mates".. | | | |
| Clydach murders on 17:23 - Oct 24 with 1762 views | onehunglow |
Corrupt.
You making accusations against individual officers.
What you been locked up for them,son.? Had a hard time?
Or have you had this line of filth passed down through your genes.
And its not retracting anything | |
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| Clydach murders on 17:25 - Oct 24 with 1759 views | onehunglow |
I ll pm you trampie.
Im getting angry with angry | |
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| Clydach murders on 17:28 - Oct 24 with 1751 views | onehunglow |
I hope one day angry you are not in a position where you need the Police .
I truly hope you stay safe and your family remain free of victimhood.
Incredibly,even though you think they are "pigs" they will still jump into a river /canal to pull your drowning kid out or drag you out of your car after its overturned and due to go up in fire. Mugs aren't they.
You turn my stomach and therefore you are bye bye | |
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| Clydach murders on 17:30 - Oct 24 with 1741 views | angryjack |
| Clydach murders on 17:23 - Oct 24 by onehunglow |
Corrupt.
You making accusations against individual officers.
What you been locked up for them,son.? Had a hard time?
Or have you had this line of filth passed down through your genes.
And its not retracting anything |
Not making no accusations telling truth unlike most police officers.what is it don't like the truth thought not as your probably one of them..why are you angry?you don't believe that police officers lie and are corrupt then? | | | |
| Clydach murders on 17:33 - Oct 24 with 1735 views | angryjack |
| Clydach murders on 17:28 - Oct 24 by onehunglow |
I hope one day angry you are not in a position where you need the Police .
I truly hope you stay safe and your family remain free of victimhood.
Incredibly,even though you think they are "pigs" they will still jump into a river /canal to pull your drowning kid out or drag you out of your car after its overturned and due to go up in fire. Mugs aren't they.
You turn my stomach and therefore you are bye bye |
So would I to save someone but that don't mean they don't lie as I have first hand experience..and if you think they don't well you need wake up | | | |
| Clydach murders on 17:46 - Oct 24 with 1722 views | onehunglow |
Incredibly Police are real people but making mistakes is not corruption.
What turns my guts is the likes of angry jack simply impugning the good name of any police officer.His ALL to MOST doesnt wash .It shows his cowardice as he knows he's lost the argument but trying to save face.
Police will right now be sticking their necks out somewhere dirty to some save some poor fecker.
NOT ONE POSTER HAS TAKEN ANGRYJACK TO TASK OVER THIS SO IM OUT OF HERE. | |
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