| Clydach murders on 20:48 - Oct 24 with 1953 views | trampie |
| Clydach murders on 20:45 - Oct 24 by exhmrc1 |
Not miles at all. About 1/2 mile. The 9 mile walk is what he claimed he did. |
He put his pint down walked 1/2 a mile and got into a house and slaughtered a random family, that is what you think ? |  |
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| Clydach murders (n/t) on 20:51 - Oct 24 with 1948 views | majorraglan |
The injuries the family received are gruesome, absolutely and utterly horrendous. Truly sickening. |  | | |
| Clydach murders on 20:51 - Oct 24 with 1948 views | trampie |
| Clydach murders on 20:47 - Oct 24 by Flashberryjack |
He didn't randomly kill that family, he killed them for a reason, exactly what that reason was we can only surmise. |
No motive you mean, so no motive, no witnesses and no DNA, ok. | |
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| Clydach murders on 20:59 - Oct 24 with 1932 views | exhmrc1 |
| Clydach murders on 20:48 - Oct 24 by trampie |
He put his pint down walked 1/2 a mile and got into a house and slaughtered a random family, that is what you think ? |
It wasn't a random family. It was his girlfriend' s best friend over many years who was petrified of him. Why! They were close friends for donkey's years. Do you not listen to what Mandy's sister has said who spent weeks at the trial. Do you disbelieve the locals where he lived. Dont you think in a close village like the Graig people know things. It isnt like say Manselton. It is an extremely close community. I dont know anywhere quite like the Graig. | | | |
| Clydach murders on 21:08 - Oct 24 with 1921 views | trampie |
| Clydach murders on 20:59 - Oct 24 by exhmrc1 |
It wasn't a random family. It was his girlfriend' s best friend over many years who was petrified of him. Why! They were close friends for donkey's years. Do you not listen to what Mandy's sister has said who spent weeks at the trial. Do you disbelieve the locals where he lived. Dont you think in a close village like the Graig people know things. It isnt like say Manselton. It is an extremely close community. I dont know anywhere quite like the Graig. |
So he puts his pint down walks 1/2 a mile unseen, kills a family he only knows through his girlfriend, not just Mandy but the granny and 2 little girls, then walks away unseen without leaving any DNA or finger prints.
So that is that the story is it exhmrc1, in a nutshell as they say is that what happened ? [Post edited 24 Oct 2020 21:29]
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| Clydach murders on 21:10 - Oct 24 with 1913 views | Andy1300 |
| Clydach murders on 21:08 - Oct 24 by trampie |
So he puts his pint down walks 1/2 a mile unseen, kills a family he only knows through his girlfriend, not just Mandy but the granny and 2 little girls, then walks away unseen without leaving any DNA or finger prints.
So that is that the story is it exhmrc1, in a nutshell as they say is that what happened ? [Post edited 24 Oct 2020 21:29]
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And as a father of girls himself, something isn’t right! |  |
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| Clydach murders on 21:19 - Oct 24 with 1903 views | trampie |
| Clydach murders on 21:10 - Oct 24 by Andy1300 |
And as a father of girls himself, something isn’t right! |
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| Clydach murders on 21:54 - Oct 24 with 1853 views | exhmrc1 |
| Clydach murders on 21:08 - Oct 24 by trampie |
So he puts his pint down walks 1/2 a mile unseen, kills a family he only knows through his girlfriend, not just Mandy but the granny and 2 little girls, then walks away unseen without leaving any DNA or finger prints.
So that is that the story is it exhmrc1, in a nutshell as they say is that what happened ? [Post edited 24 Oct 2020 21:29]
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You keep making wrong assumptions. He knew the girls through Mandy and probably Doris as well. If you listen to his version of events he had been to the house before but only downstairs. The kids were in the Graig school. No doubt Mandy had been to her namesakes house . The 2 women were known to be close. As far as DNA none of us other than those at the trial really know. My understanding is that the paint found on the chain matched the paint in Morris house. As seen believing what you read in the press and on TV isnt always right. People thought the woman who gave the description of Lewis was plausible. In Court her story was torn apart as Mandy's sister has said. Also the TV reckoned the photofit wasnt shown but it was on the Evening Post. We really dont know what forensic was held. We werent there. I seem to recall some woman saw Morris or claimed to but only those in court will definitely know.
The trouble is you are trying to make things up but you dont actually know what evidence was held. Neither of us know exactly what information was with held . You are relying on what has already been proved to be a discredited TV programme without the full facts, The juries saw the whole story and the reactions | | | |
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| Clydach murders on 22:03 - Oct 24 with 1844 views | Flashberryjack |
| Clydach murders on 20:48 - Oct 24 by trampie |
He put his pint down walked 1/2 a mile and got into a house and slaughtered a random family, that is what you think ? |
F*ck me! what part of "this was not a random killing" don't you get ? |  |
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| Clydach murders on 22:16 - Oct 24 with 1818 views | Garyjack |
May i just put this out there for those who are under the perception that Morris was 'high on drink and drugs'. Whilst technically true, taking amphetamine sulphate makes you very aware, and more than capable of paying extreme attention to detail. Even if you've drunk 8 pints. |  | | |
| Clydach murders on 22:38 - Oct 24 with 1783 views | Jack11 |
Morris had no alibi for those unaccounted hours. His version of events is he walked three miles to his folks, thought sod that and walked back another 3 miles. In the pissing rain. Surely you’d gather your senses after say, one mile. Nobody saw him on his supposed walkabout either. 6 miles, walking about for approximately 2-3 hours and not a single sole can corroborate that. | | | |
| Clydach murders on 22:41 - Oct 24 with 1772 views | pikeypaul |
exhmrcs obsessed defence of the police reminds me of Uxbridge when he was defending the sellouts and arguing that no action should be taken against them by the trust.
The police brothers were seen walking towards the house around 2am ,yet the witness was totally ignored he went back a week later reported it again,ignored again,now 20 years later they are saying they may listen to him,
one of the brothers cant remember his wareabouts for 3 hours around the time of the killings since he conveniently lost his police notebook that night,I wonder if he could remember his way home with amnesia like that, [Post edited 24 Oct 2020 22:45]
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| Clydach murders on 22:44 - Oct 24 with 1770 views | Jack11 |
| Clydach murders on 22:41 - Oct 24 by pikeypaul |
exhmrcs obsessed defence of the police reminds me of Uxbridge when he was defending the sellouts and arguing that no action should be taken against them by the trust.
The police brothers were seen walking towards the house around 2am ,yet the witness was totally ignored he went back a week later reported it again,ignored again,now 20 years later they are saying they may listen to him,
one of the brothers cant remember his wareabouts for 3 hours around the time of the killings since he conveniently lost his police notebook that night,I wonder if he could remember his way home with amnesia like that, [Post edited 24 Oct 2020 22:45]
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Strange isn’t it how several people saw blokes who resembled the Lewis twins yet no fücker saw Morris walk from clydach to llangyfelach and back? | | | |
| Clydach murders on 22:55 - Oct 24 with 1751 views | pikeypaul |
| Clydach murders on 22:44 - Oct 24 by Jack11 |
Strange isn’t it how several people saw blokes who resembled the Lewis twins yet no fücker saw Morris walk from clydach to llangyfelach and back? |
makes no difference, the fact that the taxi driver 100% IDed twins walking towards the house around 2am was enough,What is funny is how the police then repeatedly ignored the witness and threw away his statement not once but twice,i wonder why?
Anyway like we said earlier some will always think the coppers were involved and some will think morris,everyone is entitled to their opinion since no one apart from the coppers and morris knows for sure. [Post edited 24 Oct 2020 23:00]
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| Clydach murders on 23:11 - Oct 24 with 1742 views | Jack11 |
| Clydach murders on 22:55 - Oct 24 by pikeypaul |
makes no difference, the fact that the taxi driver 100% IDed twins walking towards the house around 2am was enough,What is funny is how the police then repeatedly ignored the witness and threw away his statement not once but twice,i wonder why?
Anyway like we said earlier some will always think the coppers were involved and some will think morris,everyone is entitled to their opinion since no one apart from the coppers and morris knows for sure. [Post edited 24 Oct 2020 23:00]
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Don’t get me wrong, there are some huge questions needed there. That the cabbie was not asked to give evidence or provide a formal statement raises serious questions.
I just feel that Morris has nothing to distance himself from those awful events and that is either the worst luck anyone’s had or he’s as guilty as sin.
Obviously it could be terrible luck on his part but it’s also worth mentioning that the Lewis twins are not exactly unique in appearance. We’re talking about 2 white blokes of normal shape and size with short hair. | | | |
| Clydach murders on 23:11 - Oct 24 with 1742 views | exhmrc1 |
| Clydach murders on 22:38 - Oct 24 by Jack11 |
Morris had no alibi for those unaccounted hours. His version of events is he walked three miles to his folks, thought sod that and walked back another 3 miles. In the pissing rain. Surely you’d gather your senses after say, one mile. Nobody saw him on his supposed walkabout either. 6 miles, walking about for approximately 2-3 hours and not a single sole can corroborate that. |
It is further than 6 miles. Over 4 miles one way. No pavements and nobody sees him and his girlfriend has said she let him in hours before. | | | |
| Clydach murders on 23:18 - Oct 24 with 1721 views | trampie |
| Clydach murders on 21:54 - Oct 24 by exhmrc1 |
You keep making wrong assumptions. He knew the girls through Mandy and probably Doris as well. If you listen to his version of events he had been to the house before but only downstairs. The kids were in the Graig school. No doubt Mandy had been to her namesakes house . The 2 women were known to be close. As far as DNA none of us other than those at the trial really know. My understanding is that the paint found on the chain matched the paint in Morris house. As seen believing what you read in the press and on TV isnt always right. People thought the woman who gave the description of Lewis was plausible. In Court her story was torn apart as Mandy's sister has said. Also the TV reckoned the photofit wasnt shown but it was on the Evening Post. We really dont know what forensic was held. We werent there. I seem to recall some woman saw Morris or claimed to but only those in court will definitely know.
The trouble is you are trying to make things up but you dont actually know what evidence was held. Neither of us know exactly what information was with held . You are relying on what has already been proved to be a discredited TV programme without the full facts, The juries saw the whole story and the reactions |
I don't make anything up, you are the one that makes things up.
He had never been upstairs before then had he ?, the killer seemed to know their way around upstairs.
Was the photofit shown too both juries ?, putting in the Swansea evening post means nothing, wasn't the second trial in Newport or somewhere ? [Post edited 24 Oct 2020 23:40]
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| Clydach murders on 23:21 - Oct 24 with 1711 views | pikeypaul |
| Clydach murders on 23:11 - Oct 24 by Jack11 |
Don’t get me wrong, there are some huge questions needed there. That the cabbie was not asked to give evidence or provide a formal statement raises serious questions.
I just feel that Morris has nothing to distance himself from those awful events and that is either the worst luck anyone’s had or he’s as guilty as sin.
Obviously it could be terrible luck on his part but it’s also worth mentioning that the Lewis twins are not exactly unique in appearance. We’re talking about 2 white blokes of normal shape and size with short hair. |
At 230 am in the morning in Clydach and the mike the taxi driver said it was definitely the twins.
Yes they are distinctive, and that’s my last comment on the farce.
If you want to talk to the taxi driver go in The Mill in the afternoon when it reopens I am sure he will confirm it was them, and unlike exhmc he does not have an agenda. [Post edited 24 Oct 2020 23:26]
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| Clydach murders on 23:24 - Oct 24 with 1706 views | trampie |
| Clydach murders on 22:03 - Oct 24 by Flashberryjack |
F*ck me! what part of "this was not a random killing" don't you get ? |
His girlfriends friends grandmother is pretty random, the children of his girlfriends friend is also pretty random. | |
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| Clydach murders on 23:32 - Oct 24 with 1695 views | exhmrc1 |
| Clydach murders on 23:18 - Oct 24 by trampie |
I don't make anything up, you are the one that makes things up.
He had never been upstairs before then had he ?, the killer seemed to know their way around upstairs.
Was the photofit shown too both juries ?, putting in the Swansea evening post means nothing, wasn't the second trial in Newport or somewhere ? [Post edited 24 Oct 2020 23:40]
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So he put his pint down walked miles went to a house (no key, no break-in) and slaughtered a random family he barely knew.
The miles wasnt made up. The pub to Mandy's house is 1/2 a mile. No key. Again you dont know that. You assume that. The 2 girls had been extremely close friends for donkeys years long before he was on the scene. You dont know whether his girlfriend had a key to her close friends house and he had got hold of it. Slaughtering a family he barely knew. Again that is your assumption. The probability is that isnt true either. He certainly knew Mandy and probably the kids and maybe the mother.
Whoever killed Mandy and the courts have decided it was Morris probably needed to kill the others as they knew the killer so could say who the killer was. | | | |
| Clydach murders on 23:36 - Oct 24 with 1689 views | trampie |
| Clydach murders on 22:38 - Oct 24 by Jack11 |
Morris had no alibi for those unaccounted hours. His version of events is he walked three miles to his folks, thought sod that and walked back another 3 miles. In the pissing rain. Surely you’d gather your senses after say, one mile. Nobody saw him on his supposed walkabout either. 6 miles, walking about for approximately 2-3 hours and not a single sole can corroborate that. |
Yes I found that strange as well regarding Morris, also strange that the policeman couldn't account for his whereabouts for a few hours either if I remember right, out of interest where was Mandy and the children that evening. | |
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| Clydach murders on 23:39 - Oct 24 with 1685 views | trampie |
| Clydach murders on 23:32 - Oct 24 by exhmrc1 |
So he put his pint down walked miles went to a house (no key, no break-in) and slaughtered a random family he barely knew.
The miles wasnt made up. The pub to Mandy's house is 1/2 a mile. No key. Again you dont know that. You assume that. The 2 girls had been extremely close friends for donkeys years long before he was on the scene. You dont know whether his girlfriend had a key to her close friends house and he had got hold of it. Slaughtering a family he barely knew. Again that is your assumption. The probability is that isnt true either. He certainly knew Mandy and probably the kids and maybe the mother.
Whoever killed Mandy and the courts have decided it was Morris probably needed to kill the others as they knew the killer so could say who the killer was. |
You make things up about me saying I said things that I never said and you are not big enough to apologise. | |
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| Clydach murders on 23:47 - Oct 24 with 1674 views | Jack11 |
People talk about the killer knowing the house well. It’s a 3 bed semi for Christ’s sake, not Buckingham palace. Also, changing fuses, big red herring there. Would have been a trip-switch which takes seconds. | | | |
| Clydach murders on 23:51 - Oct 24 with 1671 views | exhmrc1 |
| Clydach murders on 23:39 - Oct 24 by trampie |
You make things up about me saying I said things that I never said and you are not big enough to apologise. |
The first sentence is copied from your post look back | | | |
| Clydach murders on 23:51 - Oct 24 with 1669 views | trampie |
| Clydach murders on 23:32 - Oct 24 by exhmrc1 |
So he put his pint down walked miles went to a house (no key, no break-in) and slaughtered a random family he barely knew.
The miles wasnt made up. The pub to Mandy's house is 1/2 a mile. No key. Again you dont know that. You assume that. The 2 girls had been extremely close friends for donkeys years long before he was on the scene. You dont know whether his girlfriend had a key to her close friends house and he had got hold of it. Slaughtering a family he barely knew. Again that is your assumption. The probability is that isnt true either. He certainly knew Mandy and probably the kids and maybe the mother.
Whoever killed Mandy and the courts have decided it was Morris probably needed to kill the others as they knew the killer so could say who the killer was. |
You don't know his girlfriend friend had a key to Mandy's house and he took it or stole it.
You don't know he knew Mandy's children, you don't know he knew the grandmother of the children.
You are making assumptions. | |
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