| Leeds disorder 22:54 - Jul 18 with 9633 views | onehunglow |
New government ,a Labour govt and noe this
How will Yvette Cooper play this ?
Looks like ,for once,police not to blame,really
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| Leeds disorder on 10:56 - Jul 21 with 1009 views | controversial_jack |
It's just a local issue, it hasn't spread | | | |
| Leeds disorder on 12:50 - Jul 21 with 967 views | Boundy |
Where in the book does it say "embarrassing " page number will suffice. | |
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| Leeds disorder on 13:46 - Jul 21 with 946 views | raynor94 |
| Leeds disorder on 20:36 - Jul 20 by pencoedjack |
You are a complete & utter tosser who should be banned from this site. |
He's a troll always has been, best off just laughing |  |
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| Leeds disorder on 14:30 - Jul 21 with 903 views | AnotherJohn |
| Leeds disorder on 21:06 - Jul 20 by ReslovenSwan1 |
It is regrettable of course and a feel for the residents. No injured police or citizens. UK insurance is a fine establishment. I am sure the innocent will not lose.
First bus would have contingencies. It has been a quiet summer so far. |
I may have lost the plot. but to me the idea that large-scale criminal damage has no significance if it is covered by insurance does not compute. Over time, and especially if a trend develops where criminal damage becomes more common, the cost is reflected in insurance premiums, and if the cost of premiums is borne by private companies reflected in the prices charged for their services. | | | |
| Leeds disorder on 14:30 - Jul 21 with 902 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Just over a year ago Harehills was voted the best place to live in Leeds so god knows what the rest of the city is like. |  |
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| Leeds disorder on 14:44 - Jul 21 with 885 views | union_jack |
| Leeds disorder on 14:30 - Jul 21 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Just over a year ago Harehills was voted the best place to live in Leeds so god knows what the rest of the city is like. |
Or what in hell happened to Harehills? |  |
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| Leeds disorder on 15:18 - Jul 21 with 873 views | onehunglow |
| Leeds disorder on 14:30 - Jul 21 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Just over a year ago Harehills was voted the best place to live in Leeds so god knows what the rest of the city is like. |
South Leeds is truly rough but many areas in north Leeds are nice ,especially around around Roundhey Park.
Further north,the old brass is evident as Leeds was very prosperous . IThe city is pretty prosperous now.
Great weekend there
People see visuals of parts of a city then make assumption.
I remember Mayhill “ going up”
To an outsider ,it looked a total hellhole | |
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| Leeds disorder on 17:27 - Jul 21 with 816 views | controversial_jack |
| Leeds disorder on 12:50 - Jul 21 by Boundy |
Where in the book does it say "embarrassing " page number will suffice. |
You would have to read the book. The title is a bit of a giveaway though
Partly on the strength of their apparent success in insurgencies such as Malaya and Northern Ireland, the British armed forces have long been perceived as world class, if not world beating. However, their recent performance in Iraq and Afghanistan is widely seen as—at best—disappointing; under British control Basra degenerated into a lawless city riven with internecine violence, while tactical mistakes and strategic incompetence in Helmand Province resulted in heavy civilian and military casualties and a climate of violence and insecurity. In both cases the British were eventually and humiliatingly bailed out by the US army. In this thoughtful and compellingly readable book, Frank Ledwidge examines the British involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan, asking how and why it went so wrong. With the aid of copious research, interviews with senior officers, and his own personal experiences, he looks in detail at the failures of strategic thinking and culture that led to defeat in Britain's latest "small wars." This is an eye-opening analysis of the causes of military failure, and its enormous costs.
If that's not embarrassing then I don't know what is [Post edited 21 Jul 17:32]
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| Leeds disorder on 17:56 - Jul 21 with 801 views | union_jack |
| Leeds disorder on 17:27 - Jul 21 by controversial_jack |
You would have to read the book. The title is a bit of a giveaway though
Partly on the strength of their apparent success in insurgencies such as Malaya and Northern Ireland, the British armed forces have long been perceived as world class, if not world beating. However, their recent performance in Iraq and Afghanistan is widely seen as—at best—disappointing; under British control Basra degenerated into a lawless city riven with internecine violence, while tactical mistakes and strategic incompetence in Helmand Province resulted in heavy civilian and military casualties and a climate of violence and insecurity. In both cases the British were eventually and humiliatingly bailed out by the US army. In this thoughtful and compellingly readable book, Frank Ledwidge examines the British involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan, asking how and why it went so wrong. With the aid of copious research, interviews with senior officers, and his own personal experiences, he looks in detail at the failures of strategic thinking and culture that led to defeat in Britain's latest "small wars." This is an eye-opening analysis of the causes of military failure, and its enormous costs.
If that's not embarrassing then I don't know what is [Post edited 21 Jul 17:32]
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Well, you must be delighted. Congratulations! | |
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| Leeds disorder on 18:47 - Jul 21 with 774 views | Boundy |
| Leeds disorder on 17:27 - Jul 21 by controversial_jack |
You would have to read the book. The title is a bit of a giveaway though
Partly on the strength of their apparent success in insurgencies such as Malaya and Northern Ireland, the British armed forces have long been perceived as world class, if not world beating. However, their recent performance in Iraq and Afghanistan is widely seen as—at best—disappointing; under British control Basra degenerated into a lawless city riven with internecine violence, while tactical mistakes and strategic incompetence in Helmand Province resulted in heavy civilian and military casualties and a climate of violence and insecurity. In both cases the British were eventually and humiliatingly bailed out by the US army. In this thoughtful and compellingly readable book, Frank Ledwidge examines the British involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan, asking how and why it went so wrong. With the aid of copious research, interviews with senior officers, and his own personal experiences, he looks in detail at the failures of strategic thinking and culture that led to defeat in Britain's latest "small wars." This is an eye-opening analysis of the causes of military failure, and its enormous costs.
If that's not embarrassing then I don't know what is [Post edited 21 Jul 17:32]
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I've read it, looks like you haven't, just copied and pasted someone else's comments ,again. | |
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| Leeds disorder on 19:04 - Jul 21 with 750 views | controversial_jack |
| Leeds disorder on 18:47 - Jul 21 by Boundy |
I've read it, looks like you haven't, just copied and pasted someone else's comments ,again. |
That's a summary  | | | |
| Leeds disorder on 19:36 - Jul 21 with 734 views | onehunglow |
| Leeds disorder on 17:56 - Jul 21 by union_jack |
Well, you must be delighted. Congratulations! |
In fairness to Russia,Harehills wouldn’t have happened in Moscow
If it had, police don’t hold back
Ring leaders would have vanished
Great policing really
Innit | |
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| Leeds disorder on 19:04 - Jul 24 with 615 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Leeds disorder on 17:27 - Jul 21 by controversial_jack |
You would have to read the book. The title is a bit of a giveaway though
Partly on the strength of their apparent success in insurgencies such as Malaya and Northern Ireland, the British armed forces have long been perceived as world class, if not world beating. However, their recent performance in Iraq and Afghanistan is widely seen as—at best—disappointing; under British control Basra degenerated into a lawless city riven with internecine violence, while tactical mistakes and strategic incompetence in Helmand Province resulted in heavy civilian and military casualties and a climate of violence and insecurity. In both cases the British were eventually and humiliatingly bailed out by the US army. In this thoughtful and compellingly readable book, Frank Ledwidge examines the British involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan, asking how and why it went so wrong. With the aid of copious research, interviews with senior officers, and his own personal experiences, he looks in detail at the failures of strategic thinking and culture that led to defeat in Britain's latest "small wars." This is an eye-opening analysis of the causes of military failure, and its enormous costs.
If that's not embarrassing then I don't know what is [Post edited 21 Jul 17:32]
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A bit like Russian soldiers wherever they invade Afghanistan, Hungary, Czechoslovaki, East Germany, Afghanistan and pf course the recent invasion of Ukraine with civilians and POW regularly executed . | |
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| Leeds disorder on 19:06 - Jul 24 with 614 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Leeds disorder on 13:04 - Jul 20 by controversial_jack |
The British military failed badly too. A huge embarrassment. Not the troops, but the leadership |
Bit like the Russian leaders who Invaded Afghanistan in the first place as well as Putin's war in Ukraine. | |
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| Leeds disorder on 19:17 - Jul 24 with 592 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Leeds disorder on 17:59 - Jul 20 by DJack |
No radical action required at all.
1. Recruit more officers - the Tories have cut the number of officers.
2. Invest more money in local policing and "social" services - the difficult one with the current state of the coffers of UK PLC.
These reduce the problems at source and if some scrote or anarchist chances their arm then riot police do their thing.
Admittedly none of these are easy in the current financial climate but throwing your hands up in the air is pointless. |
According to the ONS the number of police officers in 2023 was 150697 the highest number ever since the statistics was first published in 1979 when it was 109607.
In 2010 it was 146962. Only in the left wing world can an increase of 3300 be describes as a tory cut. | |
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| Leeds disorder on 19:39 - Jul 24 with 572 views | KeithHaynes |
| Leeds disorder on 19:17 - Jul 24 by felixstowe_jack |
According to the ONS the number of police officers in 2023 was 150697 the highest number ever since the statistics was first published in 1979 when it was 109607.
In 2010 it was 146962. Only in the left wing world can an increase of 3300 be describes as a tory cut. |
Are they including PCSO staff and normal police staff ? |  |
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| Leeds disorder on 00:22 - Jul 25 with 517 views | DJack |
Look at Keith's comment and also factor in poulation increase as the number of officers per x amount of population is a issue as well. |  |
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| Leeds disorder on 01:34 - Jul 25 with 505 views | Robbie |
Whatever happened to the Bobbie on the Beat ,. My local Sargeant as kids we were in fear of him , he always warned us we were acting like prats as we were then as usual .
The threat of my parents finding news through that copper filled me with dread .
My Dad would be ok but be so annoyed the family name had been tarnished
Looks like that policeman I knew as a kid image has long gone , sad in a way .
Alleged Met Police wrongdoings plus everybody having a mobile phone screaming all the while got you on camera , get out of that on my next online posting of the situation .
First hand experince of the plague of shoplifting , now rioting in a major City in the UK .
Sir Kier you have yout hands full mush good luck with that . | | | |
| Leeds disorder on 07:45 - Jul 25 with 478 views | Boundy |
Not yours though dope | |
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| Leeds disorder on 08:47 - Jul 25 with 457 views | onehunglow |
| Leeds disorder on 01:34 - Jul 25 by Robbie |
Whatever happened to the Bobbie on the Beat ,. My local Sargeant as kids we were in fear of him , he always warned us we were acting like prats as we were then as usual .
The threat of my parents finding news through that copper filled me with dread .
My Dad would be ok but be so annoyed the family name had been tarnished
Looks like that policeman I knew as a kid image has long gone , sad in a way .
Alleged Met Police wrongdoings plus everybody having a mobile phone screaming all the while got you on camera , get out of that on my next online posting of the situation .
First hand experince of the plague of shoplifting , now rioting in a major City in the UK .
Sir Kier you have yout hands full mush good luck with that . |
Bobbie on beat not cost effective
I laughed when Yvette Cooper yesterday mentioned them vis a vis shoplifters
Pointless when Police dont prosecute in most cases
It’s a trite ,cynical load of shite
Makes me cross
Rats needs splattering | |
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| Leeds disorder on 08:50 - Jul 25 with 454 views | onehunglow |
| Leeds disorder on 19:17 - Jul 24 by felixstowe_jack |
According to the ONS the number of police officers in 2023 was 150697 the highest number ever since the statistics was first published in 1979 when it was 109607.
In 2010 it was 146962. Only in the left wing world can an increase of 3300 be describes as a tory cut. |
Radical action needed starting with politicians
Then public have to get off their knees
Parents need to take control of their kids
It’s a start
We’ve lost it
Tories to “ blame” as are Labour ( tough on crime ) lol
Sick | |
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| Leeds disorder on 13:44 - Jul 25 with 390 views | majorraglan |
| Leeds disorder on 19:17 - Jul 24 by felixstowe_jack |
According to the ONS the number of police officers in 2023 was 150697 the highest number ever since the statistics was first published in 1979 when it was 109607.
In 2010 it was 146962. Only in the left wing world can an increase of 3300 be describes as a tory cut. |
The actual number of police officers measured in terms of full time equivalent was 147,430 which is just above the 2010 figure, the 150,697 figure is the total number of officers including part timers.
There was a decrease of 20,000 police officers between 2010 and 2019, it’s taken 4 years of recruiting to get it back to where it was 14 years ago. During that time significant damage has been caused to policing and vast amounts of expertise have been lost. The leaver rate is at the highest it’s ever been and is continuing to increase and many forces are struggling to recruit the numbers required to maintain establishment levels. | | | |
| Leeds disorder on 14:39 - Jul 25 with 330 views | Flashberryjack |
It's awful to see police assaulting these nice peaceful people as they innocently go about their business. |  |
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