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Club Ownership / Directors 19:14 - Jun 15 with 32940 viewsPhil_S

There are a few questions floating around the various websites about Swans directors and their shareholdings

We have 9 directors in total who are

Huw Jenkins
Leigh Dineen
Huw Cooze (Trust representative)
John Van Zweden
Steve Penney
Don Keefe
Gwilym Joseph MBE
Martin Morgan
Brian Katzen

We also have two associate directors in David Morgan and Will Morris - these are both non executive positions

Of these 9, 3 of them - Gwilyn, Don and Steve own no shares in the club with the share ownership made up as follows

Martin Morgan 225,000 shares
Brian Katzen 200,000 shares
Swansea City Supporters Trust 200,000 shares
Huw Jenkins 125,000 shares
Robert Davies 100,000 shares
Leigh Dineen 50,000 shares
John Van Zweden 50,000 shares

(Many of these shares are not listed to the individual but businesses associated to them but I have used individual names for ease)

Overall share issue is 950,000 shares





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Club Ownership / Directors on 18:20 - Jun 23 with 931 viewsDarran

Shakys having a mare.

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Club Ownership / Directors on 18:22 - Jun 23 with 927 viewslondonlisa2001

Club Ownership / Directors on 18:20 - Jun 23 by Darran

Shakys having a mare.


I'm just ignoring him from now on - I'm pretty certain he is a wind-up merchant and life is too short.
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Club Ownership / Directors on 18:35 - Jun 23 with 901 viewsUxbridge

Club Ownership / Directors on 18:22 - Jun 23 by londonlisa2001

I'm just ignoring him from now on - I'm pretty certain he is a wind-up merchant and life is too short.


What gave it away?

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Club Ownership / Directors on 18:37 - Jun 23 with 891 viewsouttolunch

Club Ownership / Directors on 18:22 - Jun 23 by londonlisa2001

I'm just ignoring him from now on - I'm pretty certain he is a wind-up merchant and life is too short.


Its taken me so long to get to this point ive forgotten the answer to the question - ' If the other shareholders dont want to sell shares, dilute them etc then the trust cant do anything about it ? ' If this is the case what the hell has the last 12 pages been about lol. Its all hyperthetical and i doubt any shareholder would just dilute to allow this to happen so shakys rubbish has just wasted my 10 minutes of reading. !
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Club Ownership / Directors on 18:46 - Jun 23 with 884 viewslondonlisa2001

Club Ownership / Directors on 18:35 - Jun 23 by Uxbridge

What gave it away?


lol - I did tell you I found it hard to resist :-) It's all good fun anyway - he is actually very funny in parts!
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Club Ownership / Directors on 18:50 - Jun 23 with 891 viewsJonathans_coat

Club Ownership / Directors on 18:37 - Jun 23 by outtolunch

Its taken me so long to get to this point ive forgotten the answer to the question - ' If the other shareholders dont want to sell shares, dilute them etc then the trust cant do anything about it ? ' If this is the case what the hell has the last 12 pages been about lol. Its all hyperthetical and i doubt any shareholder would just dilute to allow this to happen so shakys rubbish has just wasted my 10 minutes of reading. !


This did start out as an interesting thread. It got hopelessly derailed (as a lot of threads on here do) when the amount of ego in the conversation began to outweigh the amount of intelligence in the conversation. Result = nothing informative, helpful or interesting becomes of what was an interesting debate, what a shame!
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Club Ownership / Directors on 18:55 - Jun 23 with 880 viewsCatullus

Club Ownership / Directors on 18:50 - Jun 23 by Jonathans_coat

This did start out as an interesting thread. It got hopelessly derailed (as a lot of threads on here do) when the amount of ego in the conversation began to outweigh the amount of intelligence in the conversation. Result = nothing informative, helpful or interesting becomes of what was an interesting debate, what a shame!


Such is PlanetSwans!! Get used to it.

No wonder Darran resorts to swearing

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Club Ownership / Directors on 18:58 - Jun 23 with 875 viewsJonathans_coat

Club Ownership / Directors on 18:55 - Jun 23 by Catullus

Such is PlanetSwans!! Get used to it.

No wonder Darran resorts to swearing


F**k him! Lol!
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Club Ownership / Directors on 12:59 - Jun 24 with 796 viewsPhil_S

Always good to keep the debate in the forefront though

Even if it is taken over by a person with a very high opinion of their knowledge!
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Club Ownership / Directors on 13:10 - Jun 24 with 786 viewsItchySphincter

Don't fix what aint broke.

*see if this works?*

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Club Ownership / Directors on 13:13 - Jun 24 with 781 viewsItchySphincter

Club Ownership / Directors on 13:10 - Jun 24 by ItchySphincter

Don't fix what aint broke.

*see if this works?*


*it does work*

I tried to post that line in pages 1,2 and 3 of this thread before I gave up on it. For some reason I kept getting a big red error message saying my post contained unacceptable language. Happened on a few others too.

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Club Ownership / Directors on 14:40 - Jun 24 with 747 viewsPhil_S

Club Ownership / Directors on 13:13 - Jun 24 by ItchySphincter

*it does work*

I tried to post that line in pages 1,2 and 3 of this thread before I gave up on it. For some reason I kept getting a big red error message saying my post contained unacceptable language. Happened on a few others too.


Its the common sense piece - has no place on here

Hence the unacceptable language ;-)
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Club Ownership / Directors on 09:11 - Jun 25 with 653 viewsShaky

Club Ownership / Directors on 12:59 - Jun 24 by Phil_S

Always good to keep the debate in the forefront though

Even if it is taken over by a person with a very high opinion of their knowledge!


You're talking about Uxbridge, right?

Anyway, I am pleased you have toned things down a bit here Phil, because frankly you were having a f*cking mare in objective terms. And regardless of what you may think I take no pleasure whatsoever from you looking like an idiot.

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Club Ownership / Directors on 09:51 - Jun 25 with 627 viewsJackSomething

Club Ownership / Directors on 09:11 - Jun 25 by Shaky

You're talking about Uxbridge, right?

Anyway, I am pleased you have toned things down a bit here Phil, because frankly you were having a f*cking mare in objective terms. And regardless of what you may think I take no pleasure whatsoever from you looking like an idiot.


To be fair, to the objective outsider on this thread, you're the only one coming across as an idiot.

This is as bad as Dimi (or was it Sherriff?) claiming to be a world champion surfer or some such nonsense on the old site. If you really are what you say you are, it's easy to prove.

You know, Hobbes, some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help.

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Club Ownership / Directors on 10:04 - Jun 25 with 615 viewsShaky

Club Ownership / Directors on 09:51 - Jun 25 by JackSomething

To be fair, to the objective outsider on this thread, you're the only one coming across as an idiot.

This is as bad as Dimi (or was it Sherriff?) claiming to be a world champion surfer or some such nonsense on the old site. If you really are what you say you are, it's easy to prove.


Objective truth in this field is fortunately not decided by a majority vote of laymen. And FYI in that group I include accountants in general and the ones involved in this discussion in particular, because this is very specialised stuff.

To anybody with actual knowledge and experience the rights and wrongs in this discussion should be immediately apparent. Whether you believe that or not is neither something I can control or really care about that much.

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Club Ownership / Directors on 10:07 - Jun 25 with 614 viewsDarran

Shakys having a mare.

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Club Ownership / Directors on 10:24 - Jun 25 with 604 viewsJackSomething

Club Ownership / Directors on 10:04 - Jun 25 by Shaky

Objective truth in this field is fortunately not decided by a majority vote of laymen. And FYI in that group I include accountants in general and the ones involved in this discussion in particular, because this is very specialised stuff.

To anybody with actual knowledge and experience the rights and wrongs in this discussion should be immediately apparent. Whether you believe that or not is neither something I can control or really care about that much.


Thankfully it doesn't require specialised knowledge to have an opinion.

Again, it's easy to prove you are this 'expert' you claim to be. Until you do, you'll forgive me for assuming (as I do with most of the internet) that you're full of nothing more than hot air and an over-abundance of free time.

You know, Hobbes, some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help.

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Club Ownership / Directors on 10:27 - Jun 25 with 596 viewsShaky

Club Ownership / Directors on 10:24 - Jun 25 by JackSomething

Thankfully it doesn't require specialised knowledge to have an opinion.

Again, it's easy to prove you are this 'expert' you claim to be. Until you do, you'll forgive me for assuming (as I do with most of the internet) that you're full of nothing more than hot air and an over-abundance of free time.


And how do you propose I prove that?

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Club Ownership / Directors on 10:32 - Jun 25 with 585 viewsJackSomething

Club Ownership / Directors on 10:27 - Jun 25 by Shaky

And how do you propose I prove that?


You must have qualifications in your field. Post your certificates. Or some other official document that proves you do what you say you do. Something along those lines.

It's not the kind of information I'd put on a public forum of course. But I have never made any grandiose claims about myself either.

You know, Hobbes, some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help.

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Club Ownership / Directors on 10:34 - Jun 25 with 580 viewsShaky

Club Ownership / Directors on 10:32 - Jun 25 by JackSomething

You must have qualifications in your field. Post your certificates. Or some other official document that proves you do what you say you do. Something along those lines.

It's not the kind of information I'd put on a public forum of course. But I have never made any grandiose claims about myself either.


Forget it.

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Club Ownership / Directors on 10:39 - Jun 25 with 573 viewsJackSomething

Club Ownership / Directors on 10:34 - Jun 25 by Shaky

Forget it.


I don't blame you in the slightest. But maybe now would be the time to stop claiming you're something that you're unwilling or unable to prove you are?

Just a thought.

You know, Hobbes, some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help.

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Club Ownership / Directors on 10:41 - Jun 25 with 569 viewsShaky

Club Ownership / Directors on 10:39 - Jun 25 by JackSomething

I don't blame you in the slightest. But maybe now would be the time to stop claiming you're something that you're unwilling or unable to prove you are?

Just a thought.


But as I have said to you JS, my knowledge should easily prove who I am to my peers.

And who was it that said in life the recognitions of one's peers is all you can hope for?

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Club Ownership / Directors on 10:45 - Jun 25 with 567 viewsUxbridge

Club Ownership / Directors on 09:11 - Jun 25 by Shaky

You're talking about Uxbridge, right?

Anyway, I am pleased you have toned things down a bit here Phil, because frankly you were having a f*cking mare in objective terms. And regardless of what you may think I take no pleasure whatsoever from you looking like an idiot.


Ooh you bitch.

Anyway, feel free to take up Jacksomething's request to provide some details of your qualifications. I am sure you must have a wall crammed full of certificates.

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Club Ownership / Directors on 10:46 - Jun 25 with 563 viewsJackSomething

Club Ownership / Directors on 10:41 - Jun 25 by Shaky

But as I have said to you JS, my knowledge should easily prove who I am to my peers.

And who was it that said in life the recognitions of one's peers is all you can hope for?


But I thought you had no peers on this forum, as no-one else has your specialist knowledge? So what recognition are you expecting?

You know, Hobbes, some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help.

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Club Ownership / Directors on 10:53 - Jun 25 with 538 viewsShaky

Club Ownership / Directors on 10:46 - Jun 25 by JackSomething

But I thought you had no peers on this forum, as no-one else has your specialist knowledge? So what recognition are you expecting?


The recognition of those qualified to take a view, should they ever come across this thread now or in future.
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