| This jackarmy site 21:22 - Feb 9 with 41519 views | perchrockjack |
Some alarming stuff on there..
Very disconcerting
Seems we basically have directors and a trust that cannot be trusted.
Well, are we in shite or not |  |
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| This jackarmy site on 11:39 - Feb 10 with 1635 views | C_jack |
Some people don't have fancy themselves as vigilantes, watched one to many films, perhaps. |  |
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| This jackarmy site on 11:41 - Feb 10 with 1629 views | sixpenses |
| This jackarmy site on 11:12 - Feb 10 by oh_tommy_tommy |
It's seems in a nutshell then
Mr cooze business offered the best discount for the club .
Swansea city - winner
Mr cooze business - winner
Local business & local jobs - winner
Great for the club & city
Well done Swansea City . |
Not if as suggested in another post other local businesses are being precluded from making a bid on a fair and even basis. There is no evidence of this as far as I am aware.
However as pointed out this is not the issue. The issue is in a conflict of interest situation it is difficult for the individual to be as objective and ruthless in support of the Trust's objectives (especially when they are diametrically opposed to those with whom the conflicted interest lies) than a person who has no conflicting interest and no existing relationship of dependency with those to be opposed. | | | |
| This jackarmy site on 11:51 - Feb 10 with 1611 views | sixpenses |
| This jackarmy site on 11:18 - Feb 10 by LeonisGod |
A potential conflict of interest is just that; potential. Most organisations have policies that ensure any such potential conflicts are identified and checked to see whether they could have an adverse impact on the person's work for that company. That doesn't mean a person can't have multiple roles.
What evidence is there that Huw Cooze's secondary role (the programme contract) affects his work for the club, or that there is any underhand dealings such that his integrity is brought into question? If none, which I suspect is the case, people might like to think twice about what they post on a public forum (bearing in mind the route the Oystons are taking). |
Conflict of Interest..........
A situation that has the potential to undermine the impartiality of a person because of the possibility of a clash between the person's self-interest and professional interest or public interest
Read the definition again conflict of interest means none of those things you raise where was that ever said in any post - please read what is said
A conflict of interest in its general definition exists no question
Once again I draw you attention to the words potential and possibility
If you are accusing me of personally questioning Huw C's integrity or of underhand dealings it is you that should step back and be careful what you are saying as I have never said any such thing. In fact I have repeatedly made it painfully clear that this is a standard sensible control that applies to everyone. | | | |
| This jackarmy site on 11:59 - Feb 10 with 1593 views | sixpenses |
| This jackarmy site on 11:39 - Feb 10 by C_jack |
Some people don't have fancy themselves as vigilantes, watched one to many films, perhaps. |
Not sure I understand
Are you suggesting that thinking prudent controls are important to make sure the Trust totally objectively and single mindedly follows it's objectives at this vital time for the future of our club is vigilantism | | | |
| This jackarmy site on 12:15 - Feb 10 with 1573 views | C_jack |
| This jackarmy site on 11:59 - Feb 10 by sixpenses |
Not sure I understand
Are you suggesting that thinking prudent controls are important to make sure the Trust totally objectively and single mindedly follows it's objectives at this vital time for the future of our club is vigilantism |
No I'm suggesting that the people of relevance have long since discussed this and acted accordingly in regards to their conclusions, long before the truth seeking mercenaries of the internet have stumbled upon it. | |
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| This jackarmy site on 12:17 - Feb 10 with 1569 views | skippyjack |
But the fact his company has been giving free service towards the club for years.. I'm not sure what the issue is?.. I'm concerned that people want to revoke his position because of his generous behaviour towards the club over the years.. he voluntarily helped the club free of charge from 2005-2010.. 5 years free service.. he should be reinstated as trust figurehead.. not revoked.. I'm sure his staff deserve to be rewarded for the free service an all.. people really want to create job losses for people who have helped the club freely?.. I'm actually getting embarrassed by my country recently. |  |
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| This jackarmy site on 12:23 - Feb 10 with 1559 views | C_jack |
I don't think I've ever heard a complaint about the quality of our match day programme either. Very good in comparison to others around the country.
So what's the agenda? | |
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| This jackarmy site on 12:26 - Feb 10 with 1548 views | skippyjack |
| This jackarmy site on 12:23 - Feb 10 by C_jack |
I don't think I've ever heard a complaint about the quality of our match day programme either. Very good in comparison to others around the country.
So what's the agenda? |
Huw is being vilified because he's morally wrong in the best interests for Swansea..freely!. | |
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| This jackarmy site on 12:31 - Feb 10 with 1535 views | Parlay |
| This jackarmy site on 12:17 - Feb 10 by skippyjack |
But the fact his company has been giving free service towards the club for years.. I'm not sure what the issue is?.. I'm concerned that people want to revoke his position because of his generous behaviour towards the club over the years.. he voluntarily helped the club free of charge from 2005-2010.. 5 years free service.. he should be reinstated as trust figurehead.. not revoked.. I'm sure his staff deserve to be rewarded for the free service an all.. people really want to create job losses for people who have helped the club freely?.. I'm actually getting embarrassed by my country recently. |
It has absolutely nothing to do with him giving "free" work to the club. I have no idea what relevance it has. |  |
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| This jackarmy site on 12:32 - Feb 10 with 1529 views | sixpenses |
| This jackarmy site on 12:15 - Feb 10 by C_jack |
No I'm suggesting that the people of relevance have long since discussed this and acted accordingly in regards to their conclusions, long before the truth seeking mercenaries of the internet have stumbled upon it. |
Mmmm didn't notice any of that in your single line about vigilantes
"People of relevance" - Shame you don't consider all people of relevance speaks of a very elitist POV. Surely that is what the Trust is about that all members are equally as important and decide who should represent us based on their ability to protect the Trust and it's objectives
Still lost with your terminology - "truth seeking mercenaries" - surely we are looking to the interest of the Trust and its objective of guardian of our club and it's long term survival - nothing mercenary about that, we are all protected from our base instincts by not being in a position to personally profit from the shares, which actually would make us quite the opposite of mercenary.
What action has been taken? As as a paid up Trust member I am unaware. | | | |
| This jackarmy site on 12:35 - Feb 10 with 1523 views | sixpenses |
| This jackarmy site on 12:26 - Feb 10 by skippyjack |
Huw is being vilified because he's morally wrong in the best interests for Swansea..freely!. |
Where was Huw vilified? | | | |
| This jackarmy site on 12:36 - Feb 10 with 1520 views | skippyjack |
| This jackarmy site on 12:31 - Feb 10 by Parlay |
It has absolutely nothing to do with him giving "free" work to the club. I have no idea what relevance it has. |
Because you're in favour of sacking people who have helped the club 'free of charge' over the years.. by suggesting it's a conflict of interest (which it isn't). | |
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| This jackarmy site on 12:37 - Feb 10 with 1516 views | skippyjack |
| This jackarmy site on 12:35 - Feb 10 by sixpenses |
Where was Huw vilified? |
Read the thread title. | |
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| This jackarmy site on 12:38 - Feb 10 with 1513 views | Parlay |
| This jackarmy site on 12:36 - Feb 10 by skippyjack |
Because you're in favour of sacking people who have helped the club 'free of charge' over the years.. by suggesting it's a conflict of interest (which it isn't). |
Im in favour of anybody having financial ties to the club not standing or being appointed to represent the trust at board level. Whether they have done free work or even half time penalty shoot-outs is irrelevant.
Yes you keep saying there is no conflict of interest, unfortunately many, probably most, disagree. | |
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| This jackarmy site on 12:41 - Feb 10 with 1510 views | sixpenses |
| This jackarmy site on 12:23 - Feb 10 by C_jack |
I don't think I've ever heard a complaint about the quality of our match day programme either. Very good in comparison to others around the country.
So what's the agenda? |
As you are bringing up issues totally irrelevant to the central issue - what is your agenda
What has this comment got to do with what is being discussed? | | | |
| This jackarmy site on 12:43 - Feb 10 with 1501 views | sixpenses |
| This jackarmy site on 12:37 - Feb 10 by skippyjack |
Read the thread title. |
The Jack Army site? | | | |
| This jackarmy site on 12:44 - Feb 10 with 1497 views | Darran |
| This jackarmy site on 12:38 - Feb 10 by Parlay |
Im in favour of anybody having financial ties to the club not standing or being appointed to represent the trust at board level. Whether they have done free work or even half time penalty shoot-outs is irrelevant.
Yes you keep saying there is no conflict of interest, unfortunately many, probably most, disagree. |
You going to the meeting next week Parlay? |  |
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| This jackarmy site on 12:44 - Feb 10 with 1493 views | Parlay |
| This jackarmy site on 12:44 - Feb 10 by Darran |
You going to the meeting next week Parlay? |
Did you answer my question then? | |
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| This jackarmy site on 12:50 - Feb 10 with 1478 views | Darran |
| This jackarmy site on 12:44 - Feb 10 by Parlay |
Did you answer my question then? |
We'll take that as a no then.
It's funny mind the ones with the most to say have no intention of saying it to the relevant people's faces.
Like I said yesterday you don't "support" the club in anyway so I can't say I'm surprised. | |
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| This jackarmy site on 12:52 - Feb 10 with 1469 views | Parlay |
| This jackarmy site on 12:50 - Feb 10 by Darran |
We'll take that as a no then.
It's funny mind the ones with the most to say have no intention of saying it to the relevant people's faces.
Like I said yesterday you don't "support" the club in anyway so I can't say I'm surprised. |
We'll take that as a no that you didn't answer my question?
I clearly stated on page 3 (i think) that i will answer your question once you have answered mine that you have decided to ignore.. Once that is answered i will then answer you.
But if it gets you excited to make your own answers up then go nuts.
But then you don't support the club anyway so not surprised you cannot answer why you bullied foreign fans off the site abusing them racially. [Post edited 10 Feb 2015 12:53]
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| This jackarmy site on 12:53 - Feb 10 with 1466 views | Darran |
| This jackarmy site on 12:52 - Feb 10 by Parlay |
We'll take that as a no that you didn't answer my question?
I clearly stated on page 3 (i think) that i will answer your question once you have answered mine that you have decided to ignore.. Once that is answered i will then answer you.
But if it gets you excited to make your own answers up then go nuts.
But then you don't support the club anyway so not surprised you cannot answer why you bullied foreign fans off the site abusing them racially. [Post edited 10 Feb 2015 12:53]
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Yeah I'm not a homophobic racist are you going to the meeting? [Post edited 10 Feb 2015 18:43]
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| This jackarmy site on 12:54 - Feb 10 with 1457 views | Parlay |
| This jackarmy site on 12:53 - Feb 10 by Darran |
Yeah I'm not a homophobic racist are you going to the meeting? [Post edited 10 Feb 2015 18:43]
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That wasnt my question.
I will copy and paste it now
here it is....
"I asked you if you thought calling someone from india "a curry eating batty boy" was ok... You said no it wasn't and recognised it was homophobic and racist.
I then asked you why you felt it was ok to call someone from Denmark "a bacon bender"... You then said you were ignoring me every time i asked for clarification." [Post edited 10 Feb 2015 12:58]
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| This jackarmy site on 12:58 - Feb 10 with 1444 views | skippyjack |
| This jackarmy site on 12:50 - Feb 10 by Darran |
We'll take that as a no then.
It's funny mind the ones with the most to say have no intention of saying it to the relevant people's faces.
Like I said yesterday you don't "support" the club in anyway so I can't say I'm surprised. |
They can't be fans if they're unhappy that a business is getting tenders because of their free work.. and the fact there is no conflict of interest from Huw.. they're only unhappy by the fact we're actually paying the company for their services now.. | |
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| This jackarmy site on 13:00 - Feb 10 with 1430 views | perchrockjack |
Gutless, faceless cowards DARREN.
I use the word coward in its literal sense. | |
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| This jackarmy site on 13:01 - Feb 10 with 1424 views | Parlay |
| This jackarmy site on 12:58 - Feb 10 by skippyjack |
They can't be fans if they're unhappy that a business is getting tenders because of their free work.. and the fact there is no conflict of interest from Huw.. they're only unhappy by the fact we're actually paying the company for their services now.. |
I a, unsure why you keep failing to understand the situation at all.
The company can continue to get paid for its services for all anybody cares. That isnt the issue. The issue is that the owner of that business is also acting as Trust director. | |
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