| This jackarmy site 21:22 - Feb 9 with 41530 views | perchrockjack |
Some alarming stuff on there..
Very disconcerting
Seems we basically have directors and a trust that cannot be trusted.
Well, are we in shite or not |  |
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| This jackarmy site on 14:33 - Feb 10 with 1448 views | Parlay |
| This jackarmy site on 14:27 - Feb 10 by C_jack |
Last year I stood outside the ground calling all the Napoli ultras Spaghetti munchers, and they all ran away upset, a new generation of hooliganism is on the horizon.
I'm off to Burnley next week to deal with them Hot Pot sniffers. [Post edited 10 Feb 2015 14:28]
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Then you are an embarrassment to my club. |  |
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| This jackarmy site on 14:55 - Feb 10 with 1386 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
| This jackarmy site on 14:26 - Feb 10 by Parlay |
Yes its easy to say "you are on a crusade to cause chaos" not as easy to explain though is it.
You think im causing chaos by calling someone out on using homophobic language?
I couldnt give a monkeys chuff whether you think it is homophobic or not, it is and highly offensive. Id argue that harbouring opinions like that on a public message board attached to our club has the potential to cause far more chaos than one poster simply posting sense ever could. |
You should hear what is said in the ground on match days for all to hear in a public place by your clubs supporters who are affiliated to your club
It's it worse than
BACON BENDER I can tell you .
Write a letter to the club to sort it out . |  |
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| This jackarmy site on 15:29 - Feb 10 with 1316 views | Darran |
| This jackarmy site on 15:27 - Feb 10 by skippyjack |
Fair play.. you are a bender. |
A kangaroo meat bender. |  |
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| This jackarmy site on 15:34 - Feb 10 with 1302 views | Parlay |
| This jackarmy site on 15:27 - Feb 10 by oh_tommy_tommy |
Dieing of Ebola what a dreadful thing to say indeed .
And good for you for saying it .
Would you have said the same if he sang yaya toure is a bacon bender ?
I have never suggested it's ok, so do stop assuming I think it is |
If he had called a Danish player a bacon bender then yes, absolutely. If he called yaya toure a bender then yes, absolutely. If he called yaya toure a bacon bender - I think id be incredibly confused.
And as for your last part, you said it was funny and nothing wrong with it. Didnt you? [Post edited 10 Feb 2015 15:37]
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| This jackarmy site on 15:35 - Feb 10 with 1300 views | Parlay |
| This jackarmy site on 15:29 - Feb 10 by Darran |
A kangaroo meat bender. |
Ah you are back. Now back to the two questions you are required to answer and are failing to.... | |
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| This jackarmy site on 15:36 - Feb 10 with 1299 views | ScoobyWho |
| This jackarmy site on 07:33 - Feb 10 by Neath_Jack |
The most vociferous posters saying there is no conflict of interest would absolutely be lapping this up, if it were happening to them down the road, they's be all over their message boards/twitter, goading the fcuk out of them. Some of you need to look up and understand what a conflict of interest is.
No one is suggesting, as far as i can see, that HC has done anything wrong, and certainly not illegal. Not even sure why criminality is being brought up to be honest, but there you go.
HC should not even be in a position where a conflict of interest could be suggested, or levelled against him, that's the crux of it. |
The reason why criminality was brought up is because a 'conflict of interest' has legislation attached to it. The two go hand in hand.You cant pick and choose when it is legal and when it is not. Its like punching someone in the face for no reason,then everyone agreeing it isn't a criminal act because you don' want it to be.
It doesn't rub. |  |
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| This jackarmy site on 15:38 - Feb 10 with 1294 views | ScoobyWho |
| This jackarmy site on 13:49 - Feb 10 by sixpenses |
Conflict of Interest..........
A situation that has the potential to undermine the impartiality of a person because of the possibility of a clash between the person's self-interest and professional interest or public interest
Perhaps you can explain why you consider the conflicting interests not a conflict of interests and why the overwhelming majority in that poll considered it an issue |
I would say it is because they don't understand what a true conflict of interest is. | |
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| This jackarmy site on 15:39 - Feb 10 with 1286 views | Parlay |
| This jackarmy site on 15:36 - Feb 10 by ScoobyWho |
The reason why criminality was brought up is because a 'conflict of interest' has legislation attached to it. The two go hand in hand.You cant pick and choose when it is legal and when it is not. Its like punching someone in the face for no reason,then everyone agreeing it isn't a criminal act because you don' want it to be.
It doesn't rub. |
Its not really though is it.
Its more like saying punching someone in the face is violent. But if you punch someone in the face in the work place you are no longer allowed to say violent due to a technicality of law (if there was one).
In reality it is still violent, just like in reality it is still a conflict of interest, whether it covers the letter of the law in order to make it a legal case is irrelevant to the observation. [Post edited 10 Feb 2015 15:40]
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| This jackarmy site on 15:44 - Feb 10 with 1268 views | ScoobyWho |
| This jackarmy site on 15:39 - Feb 10 by Parlay |
Its not really though is it.
Its more like saying punching someone in the face is violent. But if you punch someone in the face in the work place you are no longer allowed to say violent due to a technicality of law (if there was one).
In reality it is still violent, just like in reality it is still a conflict of interest, whether it covers the letter of the law in order to make it a legal case is irrelevant to the observation. [Post edited 10 Feb 2015 15:40]
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Parlay, a conflict of interest is an offence, we have discussed this, if that is what people are saying they are accusing certain parties of committing an offence, whether there is evidence or proof is another matter. But you cant choose when it is an offence. It either is or it isn't.
And it is.
So going back to your well placed point last night, you should choose different terminology. | |
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| This jackarmy site on 15:49 - Feb 10 with 1248 views | Parlay |
| This jackarmy site on 15:44 - Feb 10 by ScoobyWho |
Parlay, a conflict of interest is an offence, we have discussed this, if that is what people are saying they are accusing certain parties of committing an offence, whether there is evidence or proof is another matter. But you cant choose when it is an offence. It either is or it isn't.
And it is.
So going back to your well placed point last night, you should choose different terminology. |
Conflict of interest is an offence, yes.
However it is also a generic term used every day in a multitude of situations as i pointed out yesterday which means a simple scenario where a persons thoughts may be swayed by a vested interest.
In order to make this a criminal case we would have to provide specific proof to the standard required for the letter of the law. Its technicalities.
Nobody is accusing Huw of the criminal sense of the term, we are making the generically used term to describe the situation where his personal business ties may change the way he acts out his role as trust board member.
If you disagree with the term then thats fine. But i am happy to continue to use it under the caveat that I do not believe that this conflict of interest satisfies the technical law definition but certainly the commonly used phrase used daily to describe this sort of scenario. [Post edited 10 Feb 2015 15:52]
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| This jackarmy site on 16:01 - Feb 10 with 1224 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
| This jackarmy site on 15:34 - Feb 10 by Parlay |
If he had called a Danish player a bacon bender then yes, absolutely. If he called yaya toure a bender then yes, absolutely. If he called yaya toure a bacon bender - I think id be incredibly confused.
And as for your last part, you said it was funny and nothing wrong with it. Didnt you? [Post edited 10 Feb 2015 15:37]
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Yes indeed I did find it quite funny & it's seems we are alike ,quite confusing!
I have never ever in my life heard the phrase bacon bender untill I read it on here .
So are you saying it's confusing to hear a supporter sing bacon bender
But racist & homophobic if Darran said it .
I smell an agenda | |
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| This jackarmy site on 16:18 - Feb 10 with 1194 views | Parlay |
| This jackarmy site on 16:01 - Feb 10 by oh_tommy_tommy |
Yes indeed I did find it quite funny & it's seems we are alike ,quite confusing!
I have never ever in my life heard the phrase bacon bender untill I read it on here .
So are you saying it's confusing to hear a supporter sing bacon bender
But racist & homophobic if Darran said it .
I smell an agenda |
Wow, what an amazing post. To miss so many points in one post is a great effort.
Ok
1) bacon bender is a racially/xenophobic-ally motivated slur based on the famous Danish bacon production combined with the commonly used homophobic slur of "bender".
2) The slur was to a Danish fan hence why the meaning was clear.
3) Yaya Toure is African. To call him a bacon bender, is like calling someone from the US - a frog. Confusing.
So that is why Darren calling someone from Denmark a "bacon bender" is the same as calling someone from India "curry batty boy". And why it makes no sense to call yaya toure a bacon bender.
Now there is clearly no agenda. I now switch to your agenda where you seem to think racist abuse and homophobic abuse os ok.
The floor is yours. [Post edited 10 Feb 2015 16:21]
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| This jackarmy site on 16:26 - Feb 10 with 1178 views | Treforys_Jack |
FFS you still around, jeez, so many dull people giving you a platform. You were much more amusing on the scum MB.Don't bother replying, (though I know you will). |  | | |
| This jackarmy site on 16:27 - Feb 10 with 1176 views | perchrockjack |
Boys boys boys.
Its now almost 0230 .on the Sunshine Coast of OZ.
Leave it and leave him..
Daisy chain is another "offensive" term which is just as well as its never really appealed to me | |
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| This jackarmy site on 16:32 - Feb 10 with 1166 views | Parlay |
| This jackarmy site on 16:27 - Feb 10 by perchrockjack |
Boys boys boys.
Its now almost 0230 .on the Sunshine Coast of OZ.
Leave it and leave him..
Daisy chain is another "offensive" term which is just as well as its never really appealed to me |
What has the time in the Sunshine Coast got to do with anything Richard?
Do you suffer from memory loss? Serious question.
You will be asking me what my job is next. Get a backbone. | |
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| This jackarmy site on 16:33 - Feb 10 with 1162 views | Parlay |
| This jackarmy site on 16:26 - Feb 10 by Treforys_Jack |
FFS you still around, jeez, so many dull people giving you a platform. You were much more amusing on the scum MB.Don't bother replying, (though I know you will). |
Yes i am, never heard of you. Odd you wish to talk and not get a reply.
I suggest stay clear of forums. | |
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| This jackarmy site on 16:36 - Feb 10 with 1155 views | SkewenJack |
| This jackarmy site on 16:27 - Feb 10 by perchrockjack |
Boys boys boys.
Its now almost 0230 .on the Sunshine Coast of OZ.
Leave it and leave him..
Daisy chain is another "offensive" term which is just as well as its never really appealed to me |
He has stated several times he in in the UK. I have no idea why you continue to try to bully and abuse him, he has offered you a chance to chat and iron out the differences and you seem fearful to. You do have a habit of dragging these threads down. | | | |
| This jackarmy site on 16:39 - Feb 10 with 1077 views | Parlay |
Well 13 pages is a record before someone resorts to deciding to discuss my personal life, congratulations all  | |
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| This jackarmy site on 16:42 - Feb 10 with 1065 views | perchrockjack |
YET ANOTHER seemingly bosom pal of a poster who s had a clear mission on this site which many have seen through.
He s also said he s selling his businesses but also he s in oZ
If he s not in OZ why is he not going to the forum and say to the faces what he sput on here.
Bully my arse. THE PATRONISING tone of his post, his disgusting stuff on Ched Evans and the fact he is incapable of any humility doesn't show him in a good light.
HE has derailed threads for the sake of it and frankly you re not being objective.
He s offered tp meet me has he? When ,where, how,.
I DONT EVEN KNOW HIS NAME ALTHOUGH iVE ASKED..He uses mine all the time
By the way, the thread was derailed ...
leave it out | |
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| This jackarmy site on 16:42 - Feb 10 with 1065 views | icecoldjack |
| This jackarmy site on 00:41 - Feb 10 by sixpenses |
Conflict of Interest..........
A situation that has the potential to undermine the impartiality of a person because of the possibility of a clash between the person's self-interest and professional interest or public interest
Note the word potential - and note ensuring such situations are not allowed to occur is a big deal because when you have a responsibility to solely pursue the interest of the Trust for e.g. then to have a conflicting interest is highly likely to impact your decision making either consciously or unconsciously however impartial you try to be. Which makes you far from the ideal candidate to be fighting unremittingly for the Trusts absolute interest and that alone, regardless of how hard nosed you need to be with those that may want you to take a different path (but in this case may be good friends - also a potential conflict - or may hold the key to your future contracts).
Same for any shareholder wanting to cash in on their shares, their advice can no longer be considered impartial because there is a strong element of self interest riding on a particular outcome.
Now PRJ can call me what he wants but that is just a matter of good business sense and common compliance practice. Avoiding conflict of interests is a standard control. It is appropriate to all people it is not to do with trust but to do with protecting any human against their own natural instincts. |
Well that indeed is the nail hit on the head.
Good post, and one that proves those asking the searching questions are right to ask them. |  | | |
| This jackarmy site on 16:48 - Feb 10 with 1043 views | perchrockjack |
What if it transpires that there is nothing sinister, no conflict of interest.
I d suggest a massive humble pie fest..
Ice, its ok to ask questions and they ve been asked and answered but it seems not enough.
Im fearful we re causing trouble and strife for the sake of it
piss poor show really and its divided fans;those who see no reason to not to trust the Board and Trust And those who do- which was the point of my OP and maybe instead of heaping approbium on me maybe people should have a look at jackarmy and see wehat has been posted and retained, then come back and say that there have been no accusations | |
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| This jackarmy site on 16:49 - Feb 10 with 1039 views | SkewenJack |
| This jackarmy site on 16:42 - Feb 10 by perchrockjack |
YET ANOTHER seemingly bosom pal of a poster who s had a clear mission on this site which many have seen through.
He s also said he s selling his businesses but also he s in oZ
If he s not in OZ why is he not going to the forum and say to the faces what he sput on here.
Bully my arse. THE PATRONISING tone of his post, his disgusting stuff on Ched Evans and the fact he is incapable of any humility doesn't show him in a good light.
HE has derailed threads for the sake of it and frankly you re not being objective.
He s offered tp meet me has he? When ,where, how,.
I DONT EVEN KNOW HIS NAME ALTHOUGH iVE ASKED..He uses mine all the time
By the way, the thread was derailed ...
leave it out |
He has said he is selling his business yes, but he has not claimed to be in Australia once. He said he is over here to conclude business but lives over there usually (and proved it beyond doubt). You seem to be making things up to suit whatever agenda you have against him.
He also hasn't said he isn't going to the forum, you made that up too. He said he will answer that question if another poster answers one he asked first. What was disgusting that he said about Ched Evans? He said solid proof is needed. That is not disgusting is it?
I have no idea if he has offered to meet you. I have seen him offer you a chat many times and you just ignore it and continue to throw unwarranted abuse his way. | | | |
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