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This jackarmy site 21:22 - Feb 9 with 41502 viewsperchrockjack

Some alarming stuff on there..

Very disconcerting


Seems we basically have directors and a trust that cannot be trusted.


Well, are we in shite or not

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This jackarmy site on 22:54 - Feb 9 with 1450 viewsParlay

This jackarmy site on 22:52 - Feb 9 by whiterock

And where do u get this fact from, I know Huw reasonably well, so do a few on here, here's a fact, he has never owned a printing business, design is his game


Printforless ltd is his business.

If it isn't a printing business then he needs to rethink the name of his business. Although what it is, isn't really the relevant point is it?

It could be landscaping for all the relevance it has.

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This jackarmy site on 22:55 - Feb 9 with 1453 viewsPozuelosSideys

This jackarmy site on 22:53 - Feb 9 by Parlay

No pitchforks anywhere.

Only statements of fact. The fact they are bringing concern speaks for itself.


So what have the club paid £400k for services over 3 years for? Apologies if ive missed it on the thread..

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This jackarmy site on 22:56 - Feb 9 with 1428 viewsParlay

This jackarmy site on 22:55 - Feb 9 by PozuelosSideys

So what have the club paid £400k for services over 3 years for? Apologies if ive missed it on the thread..


You will have to ask Whiterock that. Whatever his business does.

I assumed "print for less" was a printing business. If not then im none the wiser as to what that company does.

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This jackarmy site on 22:57 - Feb 9 with 1421 viewswhiterock

This jackarmy site on 22:55 - Feb 9 by PozuelosSideys

So what have the club paid £400k for services over 3 years for? Apologies if ive missed it on the thread..


The printing of the programme which he doesn't and never has printed
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This jackarmy site on 22:57 - Feb 9 with 1420 viewsNeathJack

This jackarmy site on 22:51 - Feb 9 by Parlay

I haven't cast anything on anybody. Can you point to anywhere where i have stated anything else other than there is a clear clash of thought? Which there is. No.

If it was ok for footballers to bet on the other team of a match they are involved in, would you be happy with that too? Nobody is casting assertions only making observations that there is a clash of thought.
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So to clarify one final time, you have absolutely no idea whether or not Huw Cooze has done any wrongdoing or taken any decision on the basis of protecting his business/financial interests over that of his duty as Supporters Trust representative?
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This jackarmy site on 22:59 - Feb 9 with 1389 viewsParlay

This jackarmy site on 22:57 - Feb 9 by whiterock

The printing of the programme which he doesn't and never has printed


You are the one who has mentioned the programme, I have absolutely no idea why.

Check the accounts i suggest. I have provided a screenshot.

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This jackarmy site on 23:00 - Feb 9 with 1385 viewsDarran

Parlay are you still in the UK?

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This jackarmy site on 23:00 - Feb 9 with 1378 viewsParlay

This jackarmy site on 22:57 - Feb 9 by NeathJack

So to clarify one final time, you have absolutely no idea whether or not Huw Cooze has done any wrongdoing or taken any decision on the basis of protecting his business/financial interests over that of his duty as Supporters Trust representative?


Who do you think I am? His brain?

Nobody does apart from himself.

Just like nobody knows if Michael Chopra gave his all when he bet his side Ipswich (was it?) to lose. The fact he put himself in the position to raise these questions is the concern.

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This jackarmy site on 23:00 - Feb 9 with 1384 viewsScoobyWho

This jackarmy site on 22:57 - Feb 9 by NeathJack

So to clarify one final time, you have absolutely no idea whether or not Huw Cooze has done any wrongdoing or taken any decision on the basis of protecting his business/financial interests over that of his duty as Supporters Trust representative?


Clearly he hasn't as Cooze has already declared the interest and the club have also declared the interest in their accounts.

The fact they know each other doesn't mean there is a conflict of interest IMO. More has to be shown to prove the allegation, which is what Parlay is stating - an allegation that there is a conflict of interest.

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This jackarmy site on 23:01 - Feb 9 with 1376 viewsSwanjaxs

This jackarmy site on 22:54 - Feb 9 by Parlay

Printforless ltd is his business.

If it isn't a printing business then he needs to rethink the name of his business. Although what it is, isn't really the relevant point is it?

It could be landscaping for all the relevance it has.

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This jackarmy site on 23:03 - Feb 9 with 1345 viewsParlay

This jackarmy site on 23:00 - Feb 9 by Darran

Parlay are you still in the UK?


Answer my question and i will answer yours.

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This jackarmy site on 23:03 - Feb 9 with 1342 viewsDarran

This jackarmy site on 23:03 - Feb 9 by Parlay

Answer my question and i will answer yours.


What question?

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This jackarmy site on 23:05 - Feb 9 with 1333 viewsPozuelosSideys

Doesnt look like a conflict of interest to me. Looks like something very different. But theres not enough info either way.

Anyhoo. Better off staying away from this, but will read with interest.

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This jackarmy site on 23:06 - Feb 9 with 1322 viewswhiterock

This jackarmy site on 22:59 - Feb 9 by Parlay

You are the one who has mentioned the programme, I have absolutely no idea why.

Check the accounts i suggest. I have provided a screenshot.


but your insinuations run deeper, I know HC doesnt have a print company, Harcourt have printed the programme for the last 50 years on and off
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This jackarmy site on 23:06 - Feb 9 with 1317 viewsParlay

This jackarmy site on 23:01 - Feb 9 by Swanjaxs

The words snouts and troth spring to mind here


Hmmm well I guess I would do the same, they can give each-other juicy contracts for their personal businesses. Thats not really my concern, as long as it is a genuine contract for needed services that would otherwise be sought elsewhere. Which I'm sure is all above board.

The thing I disagree with is that he is the trust director while holding these contracts. I think that is a fair conclusion. Anyone that has any excuse to not have the fans interests completely at heart shouldn't be in that position.

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This jackarmy site on 23:08 - Feb 9 with 1310 viewsScoobyWho

This jackarmy site on 23:06 - Feb 9 by Parlay

Hmmm well I guess I would do the same, they can give each-other juicy contracts for their personal businesses. Thats not really my concern, as long as it is a genuine contract for needed services that would otherwise be sought elsewhere. Which I'm sure is all above board.

The thing I disagree with is that he is the trust director while holding these contracts. I think that is a fair conclusion. Anyone that has any excuse to not have the fans interests completely at heart shouldn't be in that position.


Your final paragraph doesn't indicate a conflict of interest.
There has to be other factors.

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This jackarmy site on 23:09 - Feb 9 with 1301 viewsParlay

This jackarmy site on 23:06 - Feb 9 by whiterock

but your insinuations run deeper, I know HC doesnt have a print company, Harcourt have printed the programme for the last 50 years on and off


Why are you mentioning the programme? Ive not mentioned it once.

Ive simply made a statement of fact that his company, called PrintForLess, whatever it does... Has received around 400k over the last 3 years from the club. Which IS a clash of thought.

Nothing runs deep, nothing is being suggested... Other than that isnt the ideal scenario for someone we want representing our interests.
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This jackarmy site on 23:11 - Feb 9 with 1291 viewswhiterock

This jackarmy site on 23:06 - Feb 9 by Parlay

Hmmm well I guess I would do the same, they can give each-other juicy contracts for their personal businesses. Thats not really my concern, as long as it is a genuine contract for needed services that would otherwise be sought elsewhere. Which I'm sure is all above board.

The thing I disagree with is that he is the trust director while holding these contracts. I think that is a fair conclusion. Anyone that has any excuse to not have the fans interests completely at heart shouldn't be in that position.


So he was allowed to do things for cheaper, at cost or free when we were struggling but he's not allowed to tender now?
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This jackarmy site on 23:11 - Feb 9 with 1287 viewsParlay

This jackarmy site on 23:08 - Feb 9 by ScoobyWho

Your final paragraph doesn't indicate a conflict of interest.
There has to be other factors.


Of course it does point to a clash of thought.

He has to put concerns forward and potentially make peoples lives awkward at the club to convey what is right for the trust and fans... Those people happen to be the ones that give him 100k plus a year contract.
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This jackarmy site on 23:11 - Feb 9 with 1281 viewssixpenses

This jackarmy site on 22:07 - Feb 9 by Gretsch

I am talking of the Laudrup gang, and the Monk hating gang, anf the Sumbler haters etc., and those with agendas to be leaders that no one necessarily wants.

In who else do we trust, we have a chairman who is a fan of the club, many/most of the executive are fans or people who put their hands in their picket to save us, and we have a trust who are obviously fans. Money can easily corrupt but I would rather have what we have rather than a Risdale or an Ashleigh etc.


Who are these people you refer to, quite serious accusations there and PRJ calling some Laudrup Bitches.

If I were to call others Huw's Bitches or Monk's Bitches there would rightfully be uproar

Also the use of such a term is deregotory in itself and much more inappropriate and disrespectful to women than some terms that PRJ has taken exception to.

As pacemaker pointed out need to be careful about the accusations we make about others on this site. Libel is not limited to comments made about current employees of Swansea City AFC. The good of the club stands above any individual employee.
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This jackarmy site on 23:13 - Feb 9 with 1274 viewsParlay

This jackarmy site on 23:11 - Feb 9 by whiterock

So he was allowed to do things for cheaper, at cost or free when we were struggling but he's not allowed to tender now?


Where have I said that then? If you read the thread properly you would see that I have stated quite clearly i have no problem with him holding the contract.

My problem is that he holds the contract that is increasing nicely every year (still no problem as long as its justified) WHILE being our trust director.

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This jackarmy site on 23:13 - Feb 9 with 1273 viewsskippyjack

This jackarmy site on 23:11 - Feb 9 by Parlay

Of course it does point to a clash of thought.

He has to put concerns forward and potentially make peoples lives awkward at the club to convey what is right for the trust and fans... Those people happen to be the ones that give him 100k plus a year contract.
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It has nothing to do with the trust ffs.. you're a businessman right?..

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This jackarmy site on 23:14 - Feb 9 with 1264 viewsParlay

This jackarmy site on 23:03 - Feb 9 by Darran

What question?


You know the question.

The question you didn't want to answer so pretended to ignore me over.

Answer that and we will talk.

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This jackarmy site on 23:14 - Feb 9 with 1264 viewsDarran

This jackarmy site on 23:11 - Feb 9 by sixpenses

Who are these people you refer to, quite serious accusations there and PRJ calling some Laudrup Bitches.

If I were to call others Huw's Bitches or Monk's Bitches there would rightfully be uproar

Also the use of such a term is deregotory in itself and much more inappropriate and disrespectful to women than some terms that PRJ has taken exception to.

As pacemaker pointed out need to be careful about the accusations we make about others on this site. Libel is not limited to comments made about current employees of Swansea City AFC. The good of the club stands above any individual employee.


He's probably talking about weird c*nts like you.

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This jackarmy site on 23:14 - Feb 9 with 1262 viewsPozuelosSideys

This jackarmy site on 23:09 - Feb 9 by Parlay

Why are you mentioning the programme? Ive not mentioned it once.

Ive simply made a statement of fact that his company, called PrintForLess, whatever it does... Has received around 400k over the last 3 years from the club. Which IS a clash of thought.

Nothing runs deep, nothing is being suggested... Other than that isnt the ideal scenario for someone we want representing our interests.
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With due respect, its only a conflict of interest if there was no due diligence conducted and the best deal was not sought for the club through tender.

Whether or not this was done is anyones guess. Id be more worried if this particular stuff was not compulsory given the size of the business these days.

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