| Welsh Tourism 10:58 - Jul 17 with 47453 views | Dr_Winston |
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jul/16/huge-market-untapped-lack-of-vis
Already on its knees in recent years thanks to the Welsh Govts unnecessarily heavy Covid restrictions, refusal to deal with M4 congestion and seeming intention to actually make getting around in Wales even harder. To top that off we've still got the mooted tourist tax to come.
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| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Welsh Tourism on 09:36 - Sep 6 with 998 views | onehunglow |
| Welsh Tourism on 17:28 - Jul 17 by Wingstandwood |
Shocking ain't it?..... And we all know that those extra numbers, will not in any way progress Wales, its economy, its infrastructure or future. In fact it'll be a case of the complete and utter intelligence insulting opposite.
And those imbeciles that gloat, celebrate, excuse and ignore Kamikaze-governance obviously must either be a sandwich short of a picnic, incredibly thick, politically warped, spiteful, or have some sadistic pleasure or Nihilistic impulse to see ruination.
Because we all know and bear witness to the bleeding bloody obvious proof/evidence/facts that Wales is decaying and being trodden into the dirt right before our very eyes. |
Some would see that as ante ( sic) wales .
It is the truth |  |
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| Welsh Tourism on 09:40 - Sep 6 with 996 views | onehunglow |
| Welsh Tourism on 08:33 - Sep 6 by Togg |
That will please the Unionists...just saying. Could lead to more unrest .
Personally the problem with Ireland and Northern Ireland will continue for many more centuries. To much built up hatred and mistrust which goes through the generations. Most people will just want to keep the status quo and go about their normal daily live without getting blown up or having family members killed or mutilated. Which is far more important than a resumption of violence and bowing down to mad dog terrorist fanatics on either side. [Post edited 6 Sep 2023 8:39]
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As long as there is prostestantism and Catholics m,there will never be Union.
It is religion based
Ireland didn’t have an Rmpire but they did effectively give tacit support to Hitler
De Valera the only leader to send a commiseration letter to Germany regarding Hitler .
We were in Flanders mud when these cretins were attacking the Post Office in OConnell street . | |
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| Welsh Tourism on 11:34 - Sep 6 with 961 views | controversial_jack |
| Welsh Tourism on 09:40 - Sep 6 by onehunglow |
As long as there is prostestantism and Catholics m,there will never be Union.
It is religion based
Ireland didn’t have an Rmpire but they did effectively give tacit support to Hitler
De Valera the only leader to send a commiseration letter to Germany regarding Hitler .
We were in Flanders mud when these cretins were attacking the Post Office in OConnell street . |
Ireland gave tacit support to Hitler? | | | |
| Welsh Tourism on 12:05 - Sep 6 with 961 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Welsh Tourism on 08:08 - Sep 6 by Kilkennyjack |
Well the uk partitioned Ireland in 1921.
Gerrymandered of course, not all of Ulster …
A million people starved to death in 1840’s.
The Easter Rising was 1916.
The Civil Rights Marches in the late 1960’s.
Crown forces deployed in the north of Ireland in 1969.
The GFA in 1999.
Its a continuum.
The consequences follow on in time.
Without the genocide in Ireland then Ireland would probably still be part of the UK.
The Brits lost the mandate to govern.
World wide condemnation.
It will be over when all of Ireland is free, from the plough to the stars. [Post edited 6 Sep 2023 8:09]
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There was no genocide in Ireland just a famine caused by overpopulation population and a reliance on a single non native crop.
Although you could accuse the IRA of genocide and mass murder of civilians.
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| Welsh Tourism on 12:18 - Sep 6 with 952 views | onehunglow |
Well yes.
De Valera cwtched up believing beating the British would see them driven out of Ireland .
British hated more than Nazis really.
Not dissimilar to South Africa with its German / Nazi racist genetics .
You need to read more and speak to people .
South Africa very ambivolentbin both Wars ,as is the case with the Irish Free State | |
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| Welsh Tourism on 14:19 - Sep 6 with 929 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Welsh Tourism on 12:18 - Sep 6 by onehunglow |
Well yes.
De Valera cwtched up believing beating the British would see them driven out of Ireland .
British hated more than Nazis really.
Not dissimilar to South Africa with its German / Nazi racist genetics .
You need to read more and speak to people .
South Africa very ambivolentbin both Wars ,as is the case with the Irish Free State |
One of the many unforgotten facts of WW2. Hitler gave the order to sink any ships in the Atlantic heading towards the British Isles including the Republic of Ireland. This included and vessel from Neutral counties including the ROI. Ships bound for the ROI had to join British convoys for protection. Without this protection it is doubtful the ROI could have survived the war as all its oil imports and well as a lot of its wheat food etc had to come by sea. Indeed the UK exported vast amounts of coal to IRELAND as it had little or any Fossil fuels of its own apart from peat. | |
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| Welsh Tourism on 16:22 - Sep 6 with 906 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Welsh Tourism on 08:33 - Sep 6 by Togg |
That will please the Unionists...just saying. Could lead to more unrest .
Personally the problem with Ireland and Northern Ireland will continue for many more centuries. To much built up hatred and mistrust which goes through the generations. Most people will just want to keep the status quo and go about their normal daily live without getting blown up or having family members killed or mutilated. Which is far more important than a resumption of violence and bowing down to mad dog terrorist fanatics on either side. [Post edited 6 Sep 2023 8:39]
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Watching the news recently, all those police officers and staff who feel under threat after the GDPR blunder, it makes you wonder if there really is peace in Irelnd?
There's the main report,
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/psni-data-breach-officers-securi
and of course, Simon Byrne has resined now. it makes you wonder, if they are so scared of terrorists how can the good friday agreement be a success? Aren't the terrorists only waiting for an excuse to start again?
Now then, we could stay on topic and talk about Welsh tourism... | | | |
| Welsh Tourism on 17:34 - Sep 6 with 895 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Welsh Tourism on 09:40 - Sep 6 by onehunglow |
As long as there is prostestantism and Catholics m,there will never be Union.
It is religion based
Ireland didn’t have an Rmpire but they did effectively give tacit support to Hitler
De Valera the only leader to send a commiseration letter to Germany regarding Hitler .
We were in Flanders mud when these cretins were attacking the Post Office in OConnell street . |
200,000 Irish men fought in WW1.
270,000 Welsh men fought in WW1.
Thats the facts. |  |
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| Welsh Tourism on 17:40 - Sep 6 with 895 views | onehunglow |
| Welsh Tourism on 17:34 - Sep 6 by Kilkennyjack |
200,000 Irish men fought in WW1.
270,000 Welsh men fought in WW1.
Thats the facts. |
Ireland neutral
Britain . Not
Ireland not bombed ,no blitz
Britain pummelled
Without RAF , you d be speaking German | |
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| Welsh Tourism on 18:59 - Sep 6 with 861 views | trampie |
| Welsh Tourism on 17:40 - Sep 6 by onehunglow |
Ireland neutral
Britain . Not
Ireland not bombed ,no blitz
Britain pummelled
Without RAF , you d be speaking German |
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| Welsh Tourism on 19:04 - Sep 6 with 861 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Welsh Tourism on 12:05 - Sep 6 by felixstowe_jack |
There was no genocide in Ireland just a famine caused by overpopulation population and a reliance on a single non native crop.
Although you could accuse the IRA of genocide and mass murder of civilians.
Not sure what this has to do with Welsh Tourism. |
Google says ….
‘There was no Irish potato famine; the starvation of Ireland was planned in London. The million-plus Irish who starved to death did not die from lack of potatoes. They died from lack of food; from the gunpoint removal and export of the abundant wheat, oats, barley, beef, mutton, pork, poultry, eggs, butter, milk, fruit and vegetables that they themselves produced. Nassau Senior, economist to the Crown, is quoted as saying in 1845, "only one million Irish are likely to die; and that will not be enough to do much good."
When in 1845, the potato blight, phytophthora infestans, finally spread to Ireland from America via Europe, the British Government responded by withdrawing troops from its empire and redeploying them to Ireland, 100,000 of them, to implement its food removal policy. The reason? The Times of London reported Sept. 31, 1845, "in England the two main meals of a working man's day now consists of potatoes."’
The British government no less ….. fancy that …a food removal policy by force of arms …... 🇬🇧 | |
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| Welsh Tourism on 19:11 - Sep 6 with 843 views | trampie |
| Welsh Tourism on 12:18 - Sep 6 by onehunglow |
Well yes.
De Valera cwtched up believing beating the British would see them driven out of Ireland .
British hated more than Nazis really.
Not dissimilar to South Africa with its German / Nazi racist genetics .
You need to read more and speak to people .
South Africa very ambivolentbin both Wars ,as is the case with the Irish Free State |
Ireland if anything gave tacit support to the Allies but guarded their neutrality carefully, by being neutral they were underlining their newly attained independence, they were never going to throw their lot in with the English who had treated them terribly for centuries killings many Paddies, a bit like De Gaulle he was seen as cosying up to the English when he fled France after they were overrun by the Germans which in part led to him being sentenced to death for treason (in no small part for aligning himself with the English which for a Frenchman is/was very much a no no), not always a good idea cwtching up to the English if you are not English. [Post edited 6 Sep 2023 19:56]
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| Welsh Tourism on 19:11 - Sep 6 with 850 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Welsh Tourism on 17:40 - Sep 6 by onehunglow |
Ireland neutral
Britain . Not
Ireland not bombed ,no blitz
Britain pummelled
Without RAF , you d be speaking German |
Without London rule we would be speaking Cymraeg … | |
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| Welsh Tourism on 19:19 - Sep 6 with 828 views | trampie |
| Welsh Tourism on 19:11 - Sep 6 by Kilkennyjack |
Without London rule we would be speaking Cymraeg … |
You beat me too it, I was going to say the same thing, if it wasn't for the Germanic tribes coming over here, everybody in Wales and the occupied territory (England) would still be speaking Welsh. | |
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| Welsh Tourism on 20:46 - Sep 6 with 808 views | SullutaCreturned |
We have no way of knowing what the outcome would be if those events didn't happen.
Maybe we'd be speakingFrench? Maybe we'd be extinct, anything is possible. It might have been that the Romans came and faced no opposition and we all ended up speaking Italian. | | | |
| Welsh Tourism on 20:51 - Sep 6 with 804 views | onehunglow |
| Welsh Tourism on 19:11 - Sep 6 by Kilkennyjack |
Without London rule we would be speaking Cymraeg … |
You discourse here in English regarding a team in the EnglishhLeaguecsystem.
You’re an England lover then. | |
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| Welsh Tourism on 21:14 - Sep 6 with 790 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Welsh Tourism on 17:34 - Sep 6 by Kilkennyjack |
200,000 Irish men fought in WW1.
270,000 Welsh men fought in WW1.
Thats the facts. |
The First World War (1914–1918) saw a total of 272,924 Welshmen under arms, representing 21.5 per cent of the male population. Of these, roughly 35,000 were killed, with particularly heavy losses of Welsh forces at Mametz Wood on the Somme and the Battle of Passchendaele.
Over 21% of the population.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wales_in_the_World_Wars
Why is that relevant though? | | | |
| Welsh Tourism on 22:57 - Sep 6 with 762 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Welsh Tourism on 20:51 - Sep 6 by onehunglow |
You discourse here in English regarding a team in the EnglishhLeaguecsystem.
You’re an England lover then. |
Well they our our closest neighbours and we have a lot to teach team about the modern world, thats for sure.
Now that Brexit has failed, we can look to a future where England does not need to be world beating at everything to feel important, but rather to play its part in making our world safer and more prosperous.
The Tories have to go, the BBC needs total reform, House of Lords needs to go, Royal family needs to go, the press barons need to live in the uk and pay their taxes here.
Might we then be a modern European state ?
Or its Indy. | |
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| Welsh Tourism on 22:59 - Sep 6 with 761 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Welsh Tourism on 21:14 - Sep 6 by SullutaCreturned |
The First World War (1914–1918) saw a total of 272,924 Welshmen under arms, representing 21.5 per cent of the male population. Of these, roughly 35,000 were killed, with particularly heavy losses of Welsh forces at Mametz Wood on the Somme and the Battle of Passchendaele.
Over 21% of the population.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wales_in_the_World_Wars
Why is that relevant though? |
OHL stated the Irish did not fight in WW1.
But clearly they did.
Thats a fact.
I have no idea what you are on about mind. | |
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| Welsh Tourism on 08:01 - Sep 7 with 701 views | Togg |
| Welsh Tourism on 22:59 - Sep 6 by Kilkennyjack |
OHL stated the Irish did not fight in WW1.
But clearly they did.
Thats a fact.
I have no idea what you are on about mind. |
Some of thebIrish fought with Franco's Nationalists in the Spanish civil war. They weren't too keen on the Catholic establishments being targeted by the Republicans. | | | |
| Welsh Tourism on 08:43 - Sep 7 with 683 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Welsh Tourism on 08:01 - Sep 7 by Togg |
Some of thebIrish fought with Franco's Nationalists in the Spanish civil war. They weren't too keen on the Catholic establishments being targeted by the Republicans. |
True.
The fought on both sides mind … About 150 Irishmen went to Spain as part of the Abraham Lincoln Brigade of international volunteers, forming a ‘Connolly column’.
Wales had double that number.
You are right though, in that more Irish volunteered for Franco due to the support Franco had from the Catholic church.
Good post. | |
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| Welsh Tourism on 16:08 - Sep 7 with 623 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Welsh Tourism on 08:43 - Sep 7 by Kilkennyjack |
True.
The fought on both sides mind … About 150 Irishmen went to Spain as part of the Abraham Lincoln Brigade of international volunteers, forming a ‘Connolly column’.
Wales had double that number.
You are right though, in that more Irish volunteered for Franco due to the support Franco had from the Catholic church.
Good post. |
Again, why is this relevant? Is it impossible to stay on topic? | | | |
| Welsh Tourism on 17:50 - Sep 7 with 599 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Welsh Tourism on 19:04 - Sep 6 by Kilkennyjack |
Google says ….
‘There was no Irish potato famine; the starvation of Ireland was planned in London. The million-plus Irish who starved to death did not die from lack of potatoes. They died from lack of food; from the gunpoint removal and export of the abundant wheat, oats, barley, beef, mutton, pork, poultry, eggs, butter, milk, fruit and vegetables that they themselves produced. Nassau Senior, economist to the Crown, is quoted as saying in 1845, "only one million Irish are likely to die; and that will not be enough to do much good."
When in 1845, the potato blight, phytophthora infestans, finally spread to Ireland from America via Europe, the British Government responded by withdrawing troops from its empire and redeploying them to Ireland, 100,000 of them, to implement its food removal policy. The reason? The Times of London reported Sept. 31, 1845, "in England the two main meals of a working man's day now consists of potatoes."’
The British government no less ….. fancy that …a food removal policy by force of arms …... 🇬🇧 |
Not Irish potato famine. Now you have lost touch with reality and history.
The majority of rural Ireland was dependent on a single non native crop which was hit by potato blight which easily spreads in damp conditions.
The UK government imported corn meal into Ireland to help but the Irish for some reason decided it was good enough for them.
The causes of the Irish famine are pretty clear.
A rapid rise in population to such a level that Ireland could not feed itself with reliance on one single crop.
Potato blight which wiped out this crop.
The population of Ireland has still not recovered to prefamine levels despite over 100 years of independence. .
Can we now stick to the subject of Welsh Tourism. | |
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| Welsh Tourism on 17:55 - Sep 7 with 598 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Welsh Tourism on 22:59 - Sep 6 by Kilkennyjack |
OHL stated the Irish did not fight in WW1.
But clearly they did.
Thats a fact.
I have no idea what you are on about mind. |
Well as Ireland did not exist as a county in WWI they could not have fought in it.
Is is true that many British people living on the Ireland of Ireland did enlist in their army (British army)
Can we now stick to the subject of Welsh Tourism. | |
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| Welsh Tourism on 20:47 - Sep 7 with 560 views | Togg |
Okay will try to stick to the subject but will slightly go off on my tandem  As someone who works for himself small business and travels to various parts of Wales and Saesland. How will I stand if I decide to book a hotel in Aberystwyth when the tourist tax comes in. Will I need to pay, I believe I will. For the Accountants can I off set this against any profit?
Now I'm against the tourist tax because we are all taxed on absolutely everything. Another tax for the tourist industry business is more form filling and accounting and work along with various others such as VAT etc. I went to Menorca four years ago and paid the separate tourist tax, which the local business saw as a burden. It's an annoying contribution as we contributed to the local economy through eating out drinking accommodation etc I think that's more than ample. As lovely as Menorca is, my holiday money will be spent in Southern Spain where they appreciate the British pound. | | | |
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