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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 01:18 - Sep 29 with 204551 viewsDr_Parnassus



Who will be watching? First one kicks off in 24 hours time.

The Democrats have pulled Joe back from his campaign trail recently to get him prepared, so hopefully it will be a decent exchange.

Unfortunately they don’t seem to have great confidence as they have spent the last month looking for any dirt they can dig up so Joe can use if he gets stuck.

It’s no coincidence that this vote influencing Facebook algorithm story is being shamelessly and inaccurately made into a race issue on the eve of the debates. So transparent and disingenuous, it’s a shame politics has come to this on this level where black people are being used in this way to score political points. I would be furious if I was them, but it does seem a lot of people are not falling for this one and calling it out for what it is.

People finally seem to be getting wise to this political race baiting which is refreshing to see.

It’s also telling that in the week of the debate they try and paint Trump as a tax evasion offender. I think that’s what they wanted the tax returns to show, they seem to have got annoyed when it turns out his tax returns were fine in accordance to what his companies profits were - but decided to run with it anyway. Any news is good news in their mind as it’s another thing Joe can use when in a tricky spot.

But I hope the discussions remain political and doesn’t turn into some form of gossip peddling reality TV episode.

Although I think there should be some kind of drinking game involved if it does turn that way, how many times Biden completely loses his thread of thought and blurts out “I mean, think about it...” you have to take a shot.

I will be watching with great interest anyway.

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 23:06 - Nov 23 with 1244 viewsDr_Parnassus

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 23:02 - Nov 23 by JacketJack

As an American living in America I just wanted to pop in and let you know how how much humor I find in this thread. To me, the best parts are reading the regular statements of fact of the conditions in the US as well as your absolutist understanding of our society, history, elections and court system. Keep it up, it’s hilarious.
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No problem at all.

What do you disagree with, specifically?

History is documented fact as are elections and court systems, you don't need to live in America to know that. Of course society is different from state to state, while you may have knowledge of your particular state, there is every chance I have spent more time in other states than you have.

Over to you...

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 23:12 - Nov 23 with 1230 viewsFireboy2

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 23:02 - Nov 23 by A_Fans_Dad

Try watching the 2 videos that I posted links to ans then say that.
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Try waking up and smell the coffee 😉
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 23:14 - Nov 23 with 1227 viewsFireboy2

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 23:06 - Nov 23 by Dr_Parnassus

No problem at all.

What do you disagree with, specifically?

History is documented fact as are elections and court systems, you don't need to live in America to know that. Of course society is different from state to state, while you may have knowledge of your particular state, there is every chance I have spent more time in other states than you have.

Over to you...


How arrogant of you, that post sums you up
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 23:17 - Nov 23 with 1222 viewsDr_Parnassus

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 23:14 - Nov 23 by Fireboy2

How arrogant of you, that post sums you up


Which part is arrogant?

It is a collection of facts isn't it?

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 00:58 - Nov 24 with 1143 viewsJack123

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 23:17 - Nov 23 by Dr_Parnassus

Which part is arrogant?

It is a collection of facts isn't it?


Another master class Dr P in how to deal with people being rude.

libera nos a malo

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 01:10 - Nov 24 with 1127 viewsDJack

Key government agency acknowledges Biden's win and begins formal transition

The General Services Administration has informed President-elect Joe Biden that the Trump administration is ready to begin the formal transition process, according to a letter from Administrator Emily Murphy sent Monday afternoon and obtained by CNN.
The letter is the first step the administration has taken to acknowledge President Donald Trump's defeat, more than two weeks after Biden was declared the winner in the election.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/23/poli ... index.html

It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 01:11 - Nov 24 with 1127 viewsDJack

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eni20vpWEAILXVf?format=jpg&name=medium

It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 01:12 - Nov 24 with 1127 viewsDr_Parnassus

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 00:58 - Nov 24 by Jack123

Another master class Dr P in how to deal with people being rude.


Its all about specifics mate.

If they cannot specify their insult... then it's likely to be of a fraudulent nature.

If they can specify it, then it can be addressed. But it very rarely comes to them being able to back up anything they try to put to you.

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 01:22 - Nov 24 with 1115 viewsJack123

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 01:12 - Nov 24 by Dr_Parnassus

Its all about specifics mate.

If they cannot specify their insult... then it's likely to be of a fraudulent nature.

If they can specify it, then it can be addressed. But it very rarely comes to them being able to back up anything they try to put to you.


100% agree, I have noticed, they always run away after insulting you.

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 07:17 - Nov 24 with 1067 viewsFieryJack

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 01:22 - Nov 24 by Jack123

100% agree, I have noticed, they always run away after insulting you.


Oh dear, another simpering toady.

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 07:39 - Nov 24 with 1061 viewsDr_Parnassus

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 07:17 - Nov 24 by FieryJack

Oh dear, another simpering toady.



He is right though. Isn’t he?

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 07:44 - Nov 24 with 1056 viewsKilkennyjack

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 07:39 - Nov 24 by Dr_Parnassus

He is right though. Isn’t he?


No - but Fiery is ..... 🇺🇸 😎
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Beware of the Risen People

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 07:49 - Nov 24 with 1047 viewsDr_Parnassus

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 07:44 - Nov 24 by Kilkennyjack

No - but Fiery is ..... 🇺🇸 😎
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Which part? Specifically.

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 08:46 - Nov 24 with 1024 viewsFieryJack

"History is documented fact..."

I think it might be a bit more complicated than that. Google it.

You live in a sadly reductionist world, mate.

You are the re-incarnation of Gradgrind.

Do yourself a favour: read "Hard Times", paying particular attention to the behaviour and philosophy of your namesake, and adjust your behaviour accordingly.

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 09:13 - Nov 24 with 1006 viewsItchySphincter

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 23:02 - Nov 23 by JacketJack

As an American living in America I just wanted to pop in and let you know how how much humor I find in this thread. To me, the best parts are reading the regular statements of fact of the conditions in the US as well as your absolutist understanding of our society, history, elections and court system. Keep it up, it’s hilarious.
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Please post more often. This thread is full of frauds, know-it-all’s and fukwits. Wherever you stand in this political landscape your contribution would be interesting.

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 09:19 - Nov 24 with 1001 viewsFieryJack

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 09:13 - Nov 24 by ItchySphincter

Please post more often. This thread is full of frauds, know-it-all’s and fukwits. Wherever you stand in this political landscape your contribution would be interesting.


Second that.
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 09:57 - Nov 24 with 989 viewsDr_Parnassus

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 09:13 - Nov 24 by ItchySphincter

Please post more often. This thread is full of frauds, know-it-all’s and fukwits. Wherever you stand in this political landscape your contribution would be interesting.


Do you have any specific examples where you can show us any of those accusations?

Currently they just seem like the usual bitter pejoratives.

Would be happy to look at them if you can manage to isolate something.

Take your time.
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 09:57 - Nov 24 with 987 viewsDr_Parnassus

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 08:46 - Nov 24 by FieryJack

"History is documented fact..."

I think it might be a bit more complicated than that. Google it.

You live in a sadly reductionist world, mate.

You are the re-incarnation of Gradgrind.

Do yourself a favour: read "Hard Times", paying particular attention to the behaviour and philosophy of your namesake, and adjust your behaviour accordingly.



Ok so which part of American history spoken about here is incorrect and not fact then?

Be specific.

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 10:02 - Nov 24 with 983 viewsDr_Parnassus

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 09:19 - Nov 24 by FieryJack

Second that.


Of course you do.

It’s clearly a cry for help and a call to arms, so far you have DJack and Kilk who are doing your arguing for the both of you as you know I will just call out your inaccuracy and over emotion. Itchy knows he doesn’t know enough to begin...

So at this point anyone will do. Right?


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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 11:46 - Nov 24 with 958 viewsProfessor

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 23:06 - Nov 23 by Dr_Parnassus

No problem at all.

What do you disagree with, specifically?

History is documented fact as are elections and court systems, you don't need to live in America to know that. Of course society is different from state to state, while you may have knowledge of your particular state, there is every chance I have spent more time in other states than you have.

Over to you...


Neither history or laws are documented fact. They are interpretations based on evidence, contemporary accounts and even myth and anecdote. Like the UK (although the US has a written constitution) law is based on precedent and interpretation. There is legislation for sure, but the interpretation of a judge (and/or jury as guided by a judge) is that. Dig deeper as Fiery said and I am sure you will realise what you call fact is an interpretation of the truth, not an absolute. Other than mathematics and parts of physics most things are.Interpretations based on what we perceive and induct.
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 11:49 - Nov 24 with 955 viewsDr_Parnassus

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 11:46 - Nov 24 by Professor

Neither history or laws are documented fact. They are interpretations based on evidence, contemporary accounts and even myth and anecdote. Like the UK (although the US has a written constitution) law is based on precedent and interpretation. There is legislation for sure, but the interpretation of a judge (and/or jury as guided by a judge) is that. Dig deeper as Fiery said and I am sure you will realise what you call fact is an interpretation of the truth, not an absolute. Other than mathematics and parts of physics most things are.Interpretations based on what we perceive and induct.


Incorrect, both are fact.

Donald Trump was voted into office, historical fact. District court adjudicates on district issues, not national issues. These are facts, these aren’t interpretations or opinions.

Now we are on the subject, do you think it’s a good time to revisit the discussion on planned parenthood where you seemed to think you knew what points were being made only to emotionally jump in and make a fool of yourself.

You have since been taught the ins and outs of the situation so a retraction and a continuation is probably the order of the day. I understand it is always tempting to dip back on when you believe you can manipulate and steer topics away from original context, but that doesn’t wash with me.

Ready when you are...
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 12:06 - Nov 24 with 941 viewsDr_Parnassus

As I thought.

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 (n/t) on 12:12 - Nov 24 with 935 viewsA_Fans_Dad

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 09:13 - Nov 24 by ItchySphincter

Please post more often. This thread is full of frauds, know-it-all’s and fukwits. Wherever you stand in this political landscape your contribution would be interesting.


Watched the Videos yet, or are you scared of finding out you are wrong?

Here is another one for you, this one is far shorter, so it shouldn't strain your concentration span.



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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 12:12 - Nov 24 with 934 viewsItchySphincter

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 09:57 - Nov 24 by Dr_Parnassus

Do you have any specific examples where you can show us any of those accusations?

Currently they just seem like the usual bitter pejoratives.

Would be happy to look at them if you can manage to isolate something.

Take your time.
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Observations, not accusations. Clam yourself down dear, no need to be so serious.

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 12:15 - Nov 24 with 932 viewsDr_Parnassus

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 12:12 - Nov 24 by ItchySphincter

Observations, not accusations. Clam yourself down dear, no need to be so serious.


Any specific examples of those observations?

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