| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 01:18 - Sep 29 with 204543 views | Dr_Parnassus |
Who will be watching? First one kicks off in 24 hours time.
The Democrats have pulled Joe back from his campaign trail recently to get him prepared, so hopefully it will be a decent exchange.
Unfortunately they don’t seem to have great confidence as they have spent the last month looking for any dirt they can dig up so Joe can use if he gets stuck.
It’s no coincidence that this vote influencing Facebook algorithm story is being shamelessly and inaccurately made into a race issue on the eve of the debates. So transparent and disingenuous, it’s a shame politics has come to this on this level where black people are being used in this way to score political points. I would be furious if I was them, but it does seem a lot of people are not falling for this one and calling it out for what it is.
People finally seem to be getting wise to this political race baiting which is refreshing to see.
It’s also telling that in the week of the debate they try and paint Trump as a tax evasion offender. I think that’s what they wanted the tax returns to show, they seem to have got annoyed when it turns out his tax returns were fine in accordance to what his companies profits were - but decided to run with it anyway. Any news is good news in their mind as it’s another thing Joe can use when in a tricky spot.
But I hope the discussions remain political and doesn’t turn into some form of gossip peddling reality TV episode.
Although I think there should be some kind of drinking game involved if it does turn that way, how many times Biden completely loses his thread of thought and blurts out “I mean, think about it...” you have to take a shot. 
I will be watching with great interest anyway.
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 (n/t) on 19:05 - Nov 24 with 1358 views | Jack_Kass |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 (n/t) on 17:18 - Nov 24 by A_Fans_Dad |
So have you watched all 3 videos?
If you have and can still say that, then your powers of Observation and understanding of very basic arithmetic and statistical chance leave an aweful lot to be desired and you shouldn't be posting on a grown up's forum about stuff you do not understand. |
Is Hunter Biden in jail yet? |  |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 (n/t) on 19:19 - Nov 24 with 1343 views | Groo |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 (n/t) on 19:05 - Nov 24 by Jack_Kass |
Is Hunter Biden in jail yet? |
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/computer-repairman-at-center-of-hunter-b
"Della Rocca also said his office is investigating whether files that Rudy Giuliani, President Trump's personal attorney who gave the hard drive to the New York Post, were actually on the hard drive when Mac Issac shared it with Giuliani." |  |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 (n/t) on 19:35 - Nov 24 with 1336 views | Jack_Kass |
Name the poster..
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 (n/t) on 20:53 - Nov 24 with 1301 views | Dr_Parnassus |
I am investigating if I won the lottery this week. | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 20:59 - Nov 24 with 1292 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 16:00 - Nov 24 by Professor |
Unlike you I have a real job and responsibilities-so don’t expect replies. And I see your lapdog has joined in.
And History? Clearly wrong but you will never admit to that either. |
Ah that old chestnut. He’s right, you really need to stop digging.
I see you have moved on from calling geographical court systems “law” and now changing US history on this thread to “history in general”.
I just gave you a refresher, all I can do is copy and paste what I have already explained to you. Tell me which bit confuses you and I’ll happily run you through it slowly. And I quote...
“Let’s give you a refresh.
Our new yank poster said that he enjoys reading this thread (key statement) because US history is being discussed as factual (I assume he was implying it wasn’t) and thinking we know US court systems.
Now, considering I was involved in both those discussions I replied with “that’s because they are both facts”.
So if you disagree with that statement, show me a part of US history discussed here (by me as I was the poster he referenced) that is not a fact or show me a how the discussion surrounding court systems is not fact. Just quote the piece will suffice. “ [Post edited 24 Nov 2020 21:16]
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 21:04 - Nov 24 with 1286 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 17:14 - Nov 24 by A_Fans_Dad |
I was merely trying to help you to stop digging a hole even deeper, by pointing out your error.
Because you certainly don't need my help digging them deeper as you have proved in the past. |
Asking the “prof” to stop digging is like telling a deranged dog to sit still.
It’s futile.
You could write down a nursery rhyme and the “prof” would swear you wrote a bible verse and make up an argument based on that obvious incorrect assertion regardless of how many times he is told he is making himself look a plum.
You can teach people, but you can’t understand things for them. Unfortunately our mate is in that camp. I still chuckle when he read some factual statements regarding Planned Parenthood and he called me all the names under the sun as he thought he said black women were selling their children for profit.
He’s on another planet bless him. | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 22:04 - Nov 24 with 1247 views | Gwyn737 |
155 million votes counted so far - a phenomenal amount.
A little hypothetical question to ponder...
Investigations into administration errors find a small number of proven issues. There is no effect on the outcome of the election, but a result, postal voting in large numbers is banned.
In 2024, the overall number of votes cast is reduced by 10%.
Has democracy been strengthened? | | | |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 22:06 - Nov 24 with 1246 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 22:04 - Nov 24 by Gwyn737 |
155 million votes counted so far - a phenomenal amount.
A little hypothetical question to ponder...
Investigations into administration errors find a small number of proven issues. There is no effect on the outcome of the election, but a result, postal voting in large numbers is banned.
In 2024, the overall number of votes cast is reduced by 10%.
Has democracy been strengthened? |
Yes. Without question. | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 (n/t) on 22:11 - Nov 24 with 1234 views | A_Fans_Dad |
Have you watched the 3 videos yet?
If not why?
Scared to learn just how bad the fraud is? | | | |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 22:14 - Nov 24 with 1227 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 22:04 - Nov 24 by Gwyn737 |
155 million votes counted so far - a phenomenal amount.
A little hypothetical question to ponder...
Investigations into administration errors find a small number of proven issues. There is no effect on the outcome of the election, but a result, postal voting in large numbers is banned.
In 2024, the overall number of votes cast is reduced by 10%.
Has democracy been strengthened? |
Have you read my posts and watched the 3 videos yet?
If you think it is a small number of errors you are deluded.
The first ones numbers in the 10s of thousands and so does the second. [Post edited 24 Nov 2020 22:15]
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 22:16 - Nov 24 with 1223 views | Joe_bradshaw |
When will the Supreme Court confirm Trump’s victory? |  |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 22:24 - Nov 24 with 1209 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 22:16 - Nov 24 by Joe_bradshaw |
When will the Supreme Court confirm Trump’s victory? |
It’s very unlikely they will, in fact they won’t - it isn’t their remit.
In the unlikely event that the Trump team can show that enough votes are not valid for counting then confidence in the overall vote will be at a point where the vote will in all likelihood be bypassed and the decision passed to congress. | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 23:26 - Nov 24 with 1189 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 18:05 - Nov 24 by Professor |
Well your master is clearly wrong. History and courts are facts. I pointed out this was wrong as History as an active subject in not merely facts. He cannot dispute that. And notice he has not. I also pointed out the legal system in both countries is not based on facts or written rules but one of interpretation and precedent. He and you cannot argue that. I don’t care about the court structure.
My main point was about history and the legal systems.
Discussion and debate are not linear but you are both too thick or more likely obstinate to see that. I am aware of my own limitations, but work is a job where you have to be a bit bullish and become liable to a touch of hubris.
But you gang are beyond laughable. Experts in finding the answers on the internet.
Argue with experts (Scotia) and embedded in conspiracy theory. The most risible sort of expert. The one who cannot see the wood for the trees or truth from misdirection
I am not a law expert (other than elements related to my work) but have good friends who are senior corporate lawyers (one spent five years in the US office). I learned much from them. |
"Argues with ex-spurts like Scotia", the ex-spurt who is all hubris, waffle, weaselwords, diversion, character assassination to exclude official data, appeals to authority even friends, and just like you cannot admit when he is wrong, he never posts any worthwhile data or links.
The chart I posted proves it without any doubt and he cannot even acknowledge what is on it. [Post edited 25 Nov 2020 10:40]
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 23:30 - Nov 24 with 1187 views | JacketJack |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 23:06 - Nov 23 by Dr_Parnassus |
No problem at all.
What do you disagree with, specifically?
History is documented fact as are elections and court systems, you don't need to live in America to know that. Of course society is different from state to state, while you may have knowledge of your particular state, there is every chance I have spent more time in other states than you have.
Over to you... |
Sorry Bra, no can do. Not interested in your circular arguments and typed Gish galloping. I’ve previously called out your sources, Glen Beck, James O’Keefe , Brietbart and Guiiani. They are all looked on as jokes here in the States. I’ve provided an easily located list of traits of a fascist and how mango checks all the boxes.
You’re a troll and this thread seems to be a culmination of your life’s ambition. I will admit that you’ve poured your heart into it will 1000+ posts. So no, I won’t debate you on who knows more about America. I won’t devote the time and after reading more than enough of your blather I don’t believe you have the capacity nor the willingness to understand.
Now let’s win the next two and get to the top of the table! |  | | |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 23:32 - Nov 24 with 1186 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 23:26 - Nov 24 by A_Fans_Dad |
"Argues with ex-spurts like Scotia", the ex-spurt who is all hubris, waffle, weaselwords, diversion, character assassination to exclude official data, appeals to authority even friends, and just like you cannot admit when he is wrong, he never posts any worthwhile data or links.
The chart I posted proves it without any doubt and he cannot even acknowledge what is on it. [Post edited 25 Nov 2020 10:40]
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He does that.
He reads something, assumes he can twist it away from its meaning to something completely devoid of any relevance to what was being discussed and then attacks it with blinkers on. No amount of correcting him or steering him back to what was actually said will deter him.
After a while of not giving an inch to his dishonest approach he realised he won’t get anywhere with that tactic and slinks away only to ignore any mention of it again. I’m still trying to get some answers from him regarding his similarly stupid/fraudulent interpretation of the Planned Parenthood posts which he now avoids addressing like the plague.
It’s apt that he nips in now and again to a thread largely about fraud... | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 03:58 - Nov 25 with 1143 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 23:30 - Nov 24 by JacketJack |
Sorry Bra, no can do. Not interested in your circular arguments and typed Gish galloping. I’ve previously called out your sources, Glen Beck, James O’Keefe , Brietbart and Guiiani. They are all looked on as jokes here in the States. I’ve provided an easily located list of traits of a fascist and how mango checks all the boxes.
You’re a troll and this thread seems to be a culmination of your life’s ambition. I will admit that you’ve poured your heart into it will 1000+ posts. So no, I won’t debate you on who knows more about America. I won’t devote the time and after reading more than enough of your blather I don’t believe you have the capacity nor the willingness to understand.
Now let’s win the next two and get to the top of the table! |
As I thought.
Specifics 35 v 0 leftists.
Men and boys. | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 05:47 - Nov 25 with 1131 views | FieryJack |
"You’re a troll and this thread seems to be a culmination of your life’s ambition. I will admit that you’ve poured your heart into it will 1000+ posts. So no, I won’t debate you on who knows more about America. I won’t devote the time and after reading more than enough of your blather I don’t believe you have the capacity nor the willingness to understand."
Bullseye 🤣
Called out for what you are. |  | | |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 09:17 - Nov 25 with 1083 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 05:47 - Nov 25 by FieryJack |
"You’re a troll and this thread seems to be a culmination of your life’s ambition. I will admit that you’ve poured your heart into it will 1000+ posts. So no, I won’t debate you on who knows more about America. I won’t devote the time and after reading more than enough of your blather I don’t believe you have the capacity nor the willingness to understand."
Bullseye 🤣
Called out for what you are. |
Heard it all before Fiery.
Leftists are utterly petrified of anyone that cuts past the rubbish and says it how it is. It’s nothing new, so having another friend to join in your bile is just making me that more confident that what I am saying is hitting home and striking a chord.
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 11:45 - Nov 25 with 1040 views | Gwyn737 |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 22:06 - Nov 24 by Dr_Parnassus |
Yes. Without question. |
I can't agree with that, it's too final.
I would much rather look at how improvements to made to the system to safeguard errors that still allow as many people to vote as possible. We should always aim for 100% accuracy but with human errors it not attainable.
If fact, I'd like to see compulsory voting. Republicans won't like that as it works in their favour for folks not to vote. | | | |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 12:03 - Nov 25 with 1034 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 11:45 - Nov 25 by Gwyn737 |
I can't agree with that, it's too final.
I would much rather look at how improvements to made to the system to safeguard errors that still allow as many people to vote as possible. We should always aim for 100% accuracy but with human errors it not attainable.
If fact, I'd like to see compulsory voting. Republicans won't like that as it works in their favour for folks not to vote. |
People should have the choice to vote. Every single person over the voter age limit. It should not be compelled or facilitated.
If someone feels strongly about the future of their country then they should go out and vote and it seems a little wrong that someone who wouldn’t normally be bothered to vote but was delivered one and then coaxed to by a partisan media in order to cancel that vote out.
Politics is too partisan, people are growing up into a specific party and voting without thought or question. That tends to be a Democrat thing (hence there are 6% more registered democrats than republicans) so yes, this sort of automatic voting is something that would hurt the Republicans.
The voting process needs to be secure and available to everyone. That means voting in person with the correct ID to ensure you are entitled to a vote and anyone with a genuine reason to not be able to attend in person to request an absentee ballot.
I can’t think of any reason anyone would want anything different to that unless they want to use the media to appeal to the apathetic, which isn’t very democratic at all. [Post edited 25 Nov 2020 12:05]
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 12:39 - Nov 25 with 1012 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 11:45 - Nov 25 by Gwyn737 |
I can't agree with that, it's too final.
I would much rather look at how improvements to made to the system to safeguard errors that still allow as many people to vote as possible. We should always aim for 100% accuracy but with human errors it not attainable.
If fact, I'd like to see compulsory voting. Republicans won't like that as it works in their favour for folks not to vote. |
Watched the videos yet? | | | |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 13:03 - Nov 25 with 1000 views | majorraglan |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 11:45 - Nov 25 by Gwyn737 |
I can't agree with that, it's too final.
I would much rather look at how improvements to made to the system to safeguard errors that still allow as many people to vote as possible. We should always aim for 100% accuracy but with human errors it not attainable.
If fact, I'd like to see compulsory voting. Republicans won't like that as it works in their favour for folks not to vote. |
It certainly appears safeguards may be required required in some places as the 2 articles below identify large scale efforts to de register voters who could potentially skew results in the oppositions favour.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/08/stacey-abrams-helps-raise-millio
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/how-trump-s-legal-battles-overturn-election- | | | |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 13:30 - Nov 25 with 986 views | Gwyn737 |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 12:03 - Nov 25 by Dr_Parnassus |
People should have the choice to vote. Every single person over the voter age limit. It should not be compelled or facilitated.
If someone feels strongly about the future of their country then they should go out and vote and it seems a little wrong that someone who wouldn’t normally be bothered to vote but was delivered one and then coaxed to by a partisan media in order to cancel that vote out.
Politics is too partisan, people are growing up into a specific party and voting without thought or question. That tends to be a Democrat thing (hence there are 6% more registered democrats than republicans) so yes, this sort of automatic voting is something that would hurt the Republicans.
The voting process needs to be secure and available to everyone. That means voting in person with the correct ID to ensure you are entitled to a vote and anyone with a genuine reason to not be able to attend in person to request an absentee ballot.
I can’t think of any reason anyone would want anything different to that unless they want to use the media to appeal to the apathetic, which isn’t very democratic at all. [Post edited 25 Nov 2020 12:05]
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I'm not arguing with the need for safeguards. My concern is that regs are put in that could deter large groups of people i.e. people for whom providing certain types of ID is difficult. | | | |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 13:31 - Nov 25 with 985 views | Gwyn737 |
Absolutely. Works both ways. | | | |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 14:08 - Nov 25 with 964 views | Groo |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 12:03 - Nov 25 by Dr_Parnassus |
People should have the choice to vote. Every single person over the voter age limit. It should not be compelled or facilitated.
If someone feels strongly about the future of their country then they should go out and vote and it seems a little wrong that someone who wouldn’t normally be bothered to vote but was delivered one and then coaxed to by a partisan media in order to cancel that vote out.
Politics is too partisan, people are growing up into a specific party and voting without thought or question. That tends to be a Democrat thing (hence there are 6% more registered democrats than republicans) so yes, this sort of automatic voting is something that would hurt the Republicans.
The voting process needs to be secure and available to everyone. That means voting in person with the correct ID to ensure you are entitled to a vote and anyone with a genuine reason to not be able to attend in person to request an absentee ballot.
I can’t think of any reason anyone would want anything different to that unless they want to use the media to appeal to the apathetic, which isn’t very democratic at all. [Post edited 25 Nov 2020 12:05]
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Don't you live in a Country where its compulsary to vote in elections? | |
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