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Who will be watching? First one kicks off in 24 hours time.
The Democrats have pulled Joe back from his campaign trail recently to get him prepared, so hopefully it will be a decent exchange.
Unfortunately they don’t seem to have great confidence as they have spent the last month looking for any dirt they can dig up so Joe can use if he gets stuck.
It’s no coincidence that this vote influencing Facebook algorithm story is being shamelessly and inaccurately made into a race issue on the eve of the debates. So transparent and disingenuous, it’s a shame politics has come to this on this level where black people are being used in this way to score political points. I would be furious if I was them, but it does seem a lot of people are not falling for this one and calling it out for what it is.
People finally seem to be getting wise to this political race baiting which is refreshing to see.
It’s also telling that in the week of the debate they try and paint Trump as a tax evasion offender. I think that’s what they wanted the tax returns to show, they seem to have got annoyed when it turns out his tax returns were fine in accordance to what his companies profits were - but decided to run with it anyway. Any news is good news in their mind as it’s another thing Joe can use when in a tricky spot.
But I hope the discussions remain political and doesn’t turn into some form of gossip peddling reality TV episode.
Although I think there should be some kind of drinking game involved if it does turn that way, how many times Biden completely loses his thread of thought and blurts out “I mean, think about it...” you have to take a shot.
I will be watching with great interest anyway.
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 (n/t) on 22:11 - Nov 24 by A_Fans_Dad
Have you watched the 3 videos yet? If not why? Scared to learn just how bad the fraud is?
To be honest, no. I did try but found it hard going and saw how long it was and decided against continuing, just didn't have the time to get my head around it.
I didn't look at the shorter version as I looked at the source trwitter account, nothing but conspiracies, full of it. I'll pass on that one.
So for now I'll leave it as a possible win for the Republicans and if true would be devastating and the election would be suspect.
If Trump's team decide to use this information I'm sure there will be detailed summarised decsriptions for and against that will make it easy for simpletons like me to understand.
If Trump's team doesn't use it then it maybe suspect.
Edward Soloman is not a mathematician but a Chemistry Professor as fas as I can see and could be a republican finding things that he wants to find, if he is correct though it will come out.
Dominion machines were not used in the districts he covered, they did have machines in the State that would account for about 1.3 million votes. They did buy some assets off ES&S in May this year, it was ES&S machines in the district that Soloman looked at.
What I can't see is why a Canadian company like Dominion would create software to steal votes. Dominion supply their machines worldwide and their very existance relies upon them being seen as impartial and even. If they did 'fix' their machines they would be finished as a business. It doesn't make sense.
Groo does what Groo does best
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 (n/t) on 15:15 - Nov 25 with 1417 views
🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 (n/t) on 14:30 - Nov 25 by Groo
To be honest, no. I did try but found it hard going and saw how long it was and decided against continuing, just didn't have the time to get my head around it.
I didn't look at the shorter version as I looked at the source trwitter account, nothing but conspiracies, full of it. I'll pass on that one.
So for now I'll leave it as a possible win for the Republicans and if true would be devastating and the election would be suspect.
If Trump's team decide to use this information I'm sure there will be detailed summarised decsriptions for and against that will make it easy for simpletons like me to understand.
If Trump's team doesn't use it then it maybe suspect.
Edward Soloman is not a mathematician but a Chemistry Professor as fas as I can see and could be a republican finding things that he wants to find, if he is correct though it will come out.
Dominion machines were not used in the districts he covered, they did have machines in the State that would account for about 1.3 million votes. They did buy some assets off ES&S in May this year, it was ES&S machines in the district that Soloman looked at.
What I can't see is why a Canadian company like Dominion would create software to steal votes. Dominion supply their machines worldwide and their very existance relies upon them being seen as impartial and even. If they did 'fix' their machines they would be finished as a business. It doesn't make sense.
You don't realise that it is reported that they did the same thing in Venezuela?
I doubt if the Trump Legal Team will pursue this, their angle is the Constitutional legalities that have been broken. It is probably going to be Sidney Powell and it will be private & Criminal law suits, which if found guilty will lead to bancruptcy and possibly even charges of Treason. If you had perservered with the 1st video you would have seen thousands of statistically impossible transactions.
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 15:31 - Nov 25 with 1409 views
If the election Biden steal goes ahead it will be the end of the GOP, they will be finished as an opposition party. Should the Democrats not change all the rules to prevent them ever winning again, they never will anyway as about 73% of Trump supporters would join & support a new "Trump party" as they love his non-polititical politics.
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 (n/t) on 15:41 - Nov 25 with 1403 views
🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 (n/t) on 15:15 - Nov 25 by A_Fans_Dad
You don't realise that it is reported that they did the same thing in Venezuela?
I doubt if the Trump Legal Team will pursue this, their angle is the Constitutional legalities that have been broken. It is probably going to be Sidney Powell and it will be private & Criminal law suits, which if found guilty will lead to bancruptcy and possibly even charges of Treason. If you had perservered with the 1st video you would have seen thousands of statistically impossible transactions.
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according to AP fact checks, Dominion was not involved in anything in Venezuela.
I would say, I expect their reputation has been hit hard and unjustly if these accusations are false, created for Trump's ego. Could be big law suits later.
Groo does what Groo does best
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 (n/t) on 17:20 - Nov 25 with 1369 views
I would say, I expect their reputation has been hit hard and unjustly if these accusations are false, created for Trump's ego. Could be big law suits later.
Sorry mate, but quoting MSM fact checkers just doesn't cut it at all and definitely not Fox news. But it is OK for you to believe them. I am sure it will all come out one way or another.
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 18:28 - Nov 25 with 1343 views
🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 15:31 - Nov 25 by A_Fans_Dad
If the election Biden steal goes ahead it will be the end of the GOP, they will be finished as an opposition party. Should the Democrats not change all the rules to prevent them ever winning again, they never will anyway as about 73% of Trump supporters would join & support a new "Trump party" as they love his non-polititical politics.
You need your Pied Piper back, you talk even more guff when he's not here to reel you in. Give yourself a shake man.
‘……. like a moth to Itchy’s flame ……’
🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 13:30 - Nov 25 by Gwyn737
I'm not arguing with the need for safeguards. My concern is that regs are put in that could deter large groups of people i.e. people for whom providing certain types of ID is difficult.
Like what ID would be difficult for people? And which people are you taking about?
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 14:08 - Nov 25 by Groo
Don't you live in a Country where its compulsary to vote in elections?
I do, but the country is nothing like America.
The media is neutral, there is no partisan party system that people get assigned at birth and stick with, no constitution that people defend with their lives and no war mongering.
Again it’s not something I agree with because it’s open to mass manipulation. But as far as I am aware, it has not been an issue yet and not likely to be until the country becomes a superpower, which it isn’t anywhere close to being with a population less than the UK heavily reliant upon imports.
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 21:13 - Nov 25 by Gwyn737
Those who don’t hold a driving licence/passport etc.
There’s plenty who don’t hold a bank account as another example.
Anyone is able to apply for state ID photo card. You don’t need a passport or to drive, just state issued photo ID. Everyone now has 4 years to get one, no excuse.
This ID requirement being restrictive and even racist, is one of those things white liberals put on black people and it’s extremely patronising.
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 21:19 - Nov 25 by Dr_Parnassus
Anyone is able to apply for state ID photo card. You don’t need a passport or to drive, just state issued photo ID. Everyone now has 4 years to get one, no excuse.
This ID requirement being restrictive and even racist, is one of those things white liberals put on black people and it’s extremely patronising.
Hang on. I never mentioned black people. Where did that come from?
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 21:47 - Nov 25 with 1260 views
🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 21:26 - Nov 25 by Gwyn737
Hang on. I never mentioned black people. Where did that come from?
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I didn’t say you did.
I said there is a notion from white liberals that ID requirement are restrictive and racist. That the main argument against it, I’m not saying it’s your argument.
My post killed two birds with one stone, your issue and the wider issue surrounding ID requirements.
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 21:47 - Nov 25 by FieryJack
He just can't help himself.
It's you who can't help yourself though isn't it. Always sniping with your tacky snide.
Earn the right to criticise. You offer nothing other than puerile cheapshots, hiding behind a motley gang of pretend loony friends. Who are you ? What's your raison d'etre here on a Swans football forum ?
Have a think before your usual snidey pre school post in the morning.
Pro free speech and alternative opinions -
Anti gang-bullying and poor modding thereof -
Will always make a stand against those who consistently choose to turn a blind eye
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 00:14 - Nov 26 with 1192 views
🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 00:02 - Nov 26 by AndyCole
It's you who can't help yourself though isn't it. Always sniping with your tacky snide.
Earn the right to criticise. You offer nothing other than puerile cheapshots, hiding behind a motley gang of pretend loony friends. Who are you ? What's your raison d'etre here on a Swans football forum ?
Have a think before your usual snidey pre school post in the morning.
"Have a think before your usual snidey pre school post in the morning."
Look up ironic.
It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 00:47 - Nov 26 with 1179 views
🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 00:02 - Nov 26 by AndyCole
It's you who can't help yourself though isn't it. Always sniping with your tacky snide.
Earn the right to criticise. You offer nothing other than puerile cheapshots, hiding behind a motley gang of pretend loony friends. Who are you ? What's your raison d'etre here on a Swans football forum ?
Have a think before your usual snidey pre school post in the morning.
I have constantly offered him the opportunity to put forward his opinions and discuss them. He can’t, he much prefers abuse from the sidelines safe from having his limited views ripped to shreds. He gets excited whenever a new member of the abuse family comes forward, it takes the burden off him.
“Earn the right to criticise” is perfectly put.
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 00:14 - Nov 26 by DJack
"Have a think before your usual snidey pre school post in the morning."
Look up ironic.
Keep up, we covered “delicious irony” with your incandescent friend a few pages back.
Don’t forget your meds for that self confessed condition you bleated about a while ago. Explains so much, maybe it’s time for another confession if it helps.
Pro free speech and alternative opinions -
Anti gang-bullying and poor modding thereof -
Will always make a stand against those who consistently choose to turn a blind eye
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 02:36 - Nov 26 with 1157 views
🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 01:24 - Nov 26 by AndyCole
Keep up, we covered “delicious irony” with your incandescent friend a few pages back.
Don’t forget your meds for that self confessed condition you bleated about a while ago. Explains so much, maybe it’s time for another confession if it helps.
Did you? Yet you obviously are blissfully unaware of your own failings.
Additionally... what meds and what condition?
It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 02:39 - Nov 26 with 1156 views
🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 00:02 - Nov 26 by AndyCole
It's you who can't help yourself though isn't it. Always sniping with your tacky snide.
Earn the right to criticise. You offer nothing other than puerile cheapshots, hiding behind a motley gang of pretend loony friends. Who are you ? What's your raison d'etre here on a Swans football forum ?
Have a think before your usual snidey pre school post in the morning.
Pot Kettle Black.
Is this a parody account or something? Where did she spring from? Anyone know the usual user name of this one or she always been here? A similar posting style to that twerp that used to go by the name Bluepiles.
‘……. like a moth to Itchy’s flame ……’
🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 09:12 - Nov 26 by ItchySphincter
Pot Kettle Black.
Is this a parody account or something? Where did she spring from? Anyone know the usual user name of this one or she always been here? A similar posting style to that twerp that used to go by the name Bluepiles.
Where does this poster snipe and be snidey?
I have not seen it, only to call out other posters doing so such as yourself and Fiery who seem to do it as a profession.
One of the best football posters on this forum is AC.
Swansea Independent Poster of the Year 2021 and 2022.
🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 09:12 - Nov 26 by ItchySphincter
Pot Kettle Black.
Is this a parody account or something? Where did she spring from? Anyone know the usual user name of this one or she always been here? A similar posting style to that twerp that used to go by the name Bluepiles.
Is calling Andy a she some attempt at an insult?
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 13:12 - Nov 26 with 1028 views
🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 09:22 - Nov 26 by Dr_Parnassus
Where does this poster snipe and be snidey?
I have not seen it, only to call out other posters doing so such as yourself and Fiery who seem to do it as a profession.
One of the best football posters on this forum is AC.
Don't be daft now. I can't be bothered but you seem to find the time for these things so go look at the way she responds to posts. I don't think I've ever engaged her but if you're honest with yourself you'll see it and agree with me.
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‘……. like a moth to Itchy’s flame ……’