| British Lions Tour Thread 09:42 - Jun 10 with 15057 views | BlackCrowe |
Compelling match against the Crusaders. Farrell looks a class class act. |  |
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| British Lions Tour Thread on 09:21 - Jun 24 with 2264 views | Noelmc |
Brilliant Lions try. Liam Williams doing a great impression of Phil Bennet. |  | | |
| British Lions Tour Thread on 09:29 - Jun 24 with 2248 views | BromleyHoop |
| British Lions Tour Thread on 09:12 - Jun 24 by johncharles |
I'd forgotten how good rugby could be. All Blacks are fantastic. Lions still in it and a bit unlucky. |
The ABs are a truly awesome team. They way they always seem to break the gain line, always selecting the right option in an offload. Lions forwards with the ball are happy to take the hit and often don't get up to the gain line. I'm not sure I'm a fan of this constant box kicking from Murray. Gatland has picked an attacking back line why kick the ball away. Our try came from the backs running with the ball in hand. |  |
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| British Lions Tour Thread on 10:15 - Jun 24 with 2216 views | BromleyHoop |
Like professionals against amateurs. | |
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| British Lions Tour Thread on 11:22 - Jun 24 with 2169 views | Phildo |
Hmmmm.....lineout went well(for first 60 minutes) front five bashed up though and they were not expecting that. Penalty count killed them. Farrell picked the wrong day to have a poor one and the back three were good. Robith was right about the bench though. |  | | |
| British Lions Tour Thread on 11:55 - Jun 24 with 2148 views | BromleyHoop |
| British Lions Tour Thread on 11:22 - Jun 24 by Phildo |
Hmmmm.....lineout went well(for first 60 minutes) front five bashed up though and they were not expecting that. Penalty count killed them. Farrell picked the wrong day to have a poor one and the back three were good. Robith was right about the bench though. |
Farrell making a couple more pen kicks wouldn't have made a difference in my opinion. I thought Itoje made an impact and Webb gave a very good account of himself in the 15 or so minutes he was on; Very busy and dynamic. | |
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| British Lions Tour Thread on 12:24 - Jun 24 with 2122 views | Kiwi76 |
Just back.
Great Lions support & looked 50:50 in stadium.
Competitive first half but AB's took over in second - till 80th minute at least.
Missing a few to injury now but will be better for the next test.
Heading to Wellington for second test next weekend... |  | | |
| British Lions Tour Thread on 12:28 - Jun 24 with 2118 views | SimonJames |
| British Lions Tour Thread on 01:53 - Jun 24 by Hitch |
Enjoy your breakfast, the result may be hard to stomach though. All Blacks by 15. |
You were right. Damn you!!!!! |  |
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| British Lions Tour Thread on 12:31 - Jun 24 with 2113 views | SimonJames |
Difficult to see how the Lions can improve against that; even with less mistakes and penalties. Incredible ABs team performance and individual skills. | |
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| British Lions Tour Thread on 12:42 - Jun 24 with 2103 views | Snipper |
Can't believe Mike Brown didn't make the whole squad.
It's gonna be 3-0 to the All Blacks. |  | | |
| British Lions Tour Thread on 13:09 - Jun 24 with 2072 views | Hoopsarrr |
So this world class player, where was he? Went missing in crucial game. I think you need to stop throwing the world class tag around so loosely. |  | | |
| British Lions Tour Thread on 01:10 - Jun 25 with 1937 views | Hitch |
| British Lions Tour Thread on 13:09 - Jun 24 by Hoopsarrr |
So this world class player, where was he? Went missing in crucial game. I think you need to stop throwing the world class tag around so loosely. |
He didn't go missing, he went to 2nd five when Teo came off. I think you need to lighten up and realise your opinion, like mine is just that. I thought Farrell played ok and certainly wasn't responsible for the loss. The first twenty minutes told on the Lions in the last twenty. Their forwards were put to the sword in the end. But that was an excellent game which the Lions were competing well and should have scored a couple more tries. Bring on Wellington. |  | | |
| British Lions Tour Thread on 11:00 - Jun 25 with 1887 views | robith |
| British Lions Tour Thread on 12:42 - Jun 24 by Snipper |
Can't believe Mike Brown didn't make the whole squad.
It's gonna be 3-0 to the All Blacks. |
Mike Brown is rubbish |  | | |
| British Lions Tour Thread on 17:42 - Jun 25 with 1831 views | SimonJames |
| British Lions Tour Thread on 11:00 - Jun 25 by robith |
Mike Brown is rubbish |
Totally agree. Eddie can do very little wrong in my eyes, but I still don't understand why he picks MB instead of Alex Goode.
Or maybe he could try Watson or Daly.
It'll be interesting to see what Jack Nowell does at full back on Tuesday. | |
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| British Lions Tour Thread on 22:28 - Jun 25 with 1769 views | Phildo |
| British Lions Tour Thread on 17:42 - Jun 25 by SimonJames |
Totally agree. Eddie can do very little wrong in my eyes, but I still don't understand why he picks MB instead of Alex Goode.
Or maybe he could try Watson or Daly.
It'll be interesting to see what Jack Nowell does at full back on Tuesday. |
Thirded. Does a bad Terry Butcher impression and England have far better options. Jamie George going very well here too. | | | |
| British Lions Tour Thread on 07:49 - Jun 26 with 1711 views | TGRRRSSS |
Lucky you Kiwi76.
Hope your well generally.
Was rather nervous about this game but in the end the successes versus Maori and the CRusaders were overdone, the Lions had their moments but for the most part as the game progressed I felt the ABs would grab ascendancy.
Much more work to be done, as Lions will throw everything at Wellington Test.
AS for Farrell, he was not given the opportunities and the ABs were better at playing in the right areas of the pitch, somewhat negating the influence he might have had.
INteresting call if they pick Sexton and Farrell this week.
ABS will have changes in personell due to Ben Smith and Crotty out.
ALB for CRotty, Dagg to FB and Naholo in at right wing is what I think will happen.... SAvea not sure as playing for Hurricanes tomorrow. |  | | |
| British Lions Tour Thread on 10:03 - Jun 26 with 1677 views | ozranger |
| British Lions Tour Thread on 07:49 - Jun 26 by TGRRRSSS |
Lucky you Kiwi76.
Hope your well generally.
Was rather nervous about this game but in the end the successes versus Maori and the CRusaders were overdone, the Lions had their moments but for the most part as the game progressed I felt the ABs would grab ascendancy.
Much more work to be done, as Lions will throw everything at Wellington Test.
AS for Farrell, he was not given the opportunities and the ABs were better at playing in the right areas of the pitch, somewhat negating the influence he might have had.
INteresting call if they pick Sexton and Farrell this week.
ABS will have changes in personell due to Ben Smith and Crotty out.
ALB for CRotty, Dagg to FB and Naholo in at right wing is what I think will happen.... SAvea not sure as playing for Hurricanes tomorrow. |
Haven't seen the lineup for tomorrow. Which Savea? My guess is that Fekitoa will move to the bench for Crotty. Is Jordie Barrett also playing tomorrow as he must be in with a chance of making the bench for the other spot.
I watched the match and was not happy with some of the errors by the ABs and felt they could have played somewhat better. Many missed tackles was also not like the ABs. Yes, the weather got worse during the game, but that should not be an excuse. Mind you, I do note the UK papers (Independent, for example) do state that SBW was impeded for the Lions first try.
Looking forward to the second test. The cake tin will be humming. |  | | |
| British Lions Tour Thread on 13:05 - Jun 26 with 1623 views | TGRRRSSS |
Julian Savea he's playing for Canes tomorrow, Ardie is in AB squad anyway.
Fekitoa seems on the outer currently. Jack Goodhue from Crusaders is with the squad, and is a class act I think and a coming player. | | | |
| British Lions Tour Thread on 13:53 - Jun 27 with 1551 views | robith |
Lawes and the Llama playing themselves into the test squad today, as long as Llama doesn't get cited.
Interesting that Gatland blamed the yellow, Rory Best said "we need to be bigger than a single decision". Side with Best here - not least because having brought the geography 6 over Gatland's now bottled playing them. That front row has now played full 80s two games in a row | | | |
| British Lions Tour Thread on 15:13 - Jun 27 with 1523 views | SimonJames |
| British Lions Tour Thread on 13:53 - Jun 27 by robith |
Lawes and the Llama playing themselves into the test squad today, as long as Llama doesn't get cited.
Interesting that Gatland blamed the yellow, Rory Best said "we need to be bigger than a single decision". Side with Best here - not least because having brought the geography 6 over Gatland's now bottled playing them. That front row has now played full 80s two games in a row |
I think Lawes and Itoje need to start.
Gatland might make a surprise selection of Sinckler to start.
Murray needs to give it a rest with the box kicking. You can't beat the ABs if you keep giving them the ball... because they sure as hell aren't kicking it back again. Constantly having to make tackles will wear you out a lot faster than running with the ball. And you tend to give away a lot more penalties in defence.
Farrell switching to center was never going to be a good plan against SBW. In fact, since George Ford is a better fly half anyway, I suspect that Farrell will find it hard to get into future England teams if he has to compete against the like of a constantly improving Te'o, or a fit Tuilagi.
So we need a proper center replacement on the bench - which basically means Jonathan Joseph (and as a life long Bath supporter, I think we need more than two Bath players on the pitch anyway).
But I suspect that Gatland will have Kruis and Henderson on the bench, which will mean one less backs replacement.
Finally, I hope the back row have spent the entire week learning how to win at the breakdown. | |
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| British Lions Tour Thread on 16:43 - Jun 27 with 1498 views | robith |
| British Lions Tour Thread on 15:13 - Jun 27 by SimonJames |
I think Lawes and Itoje need to start.
Gatland might make a surprise selection of Sinckler to start.
Murray needs to give it a rest with the box kicking. You can't beat the ABs if you keep giving them the ball... because they sure as hell aren't kicking it back again. Constantly having to make tackles will wear you out a lot faster than running with the ball. And you tend to give away a lot more penalties in defence.
Farrell switching to center was never going to be a good plan against SBW. In fact, since George Ford is a better fly half anyway, I suspect that Farrell will find it hard to get into future England teams if he has to compete against the like of a constantly improving Te'o, or a fit Tuilagi.
So we need a proper center replacement on the bench - which basically means Jonathan Joseph (and as a life long Bath supporter, I think we need more than two Bath players on the pitch anyway).
But I suspect that Gatland will have Kruis and Henderson on the bench, which will mean one less backs replacement.
Finally, I hope the back row have spent the entire week learning how to win at the breakdown. |
I think Sinckler is tailor made for the impact sub role. He made a couple of errors, but Furlong had a huge game on Saturday and is capable of bigger still
Murray's box kicking was clearly tactical instruction - Farrell kicked 20% of his possession until Sexton came on. All Blacks got wise quick and switched Dagg and Ioane, and started the Glasgow technique of making it look like you're trying to chase down Murray's kick and inadvertently almost break his leg.
The problem wasn't really the backrow but the lack of energy from the tight five, poor rucking all round. O'Brien came close to numerous turnovers if he'd just had a bit more support | | | |
| British Lions Tour Thread on 17:06 - Jun 27 with 1490 views | Phildo |
| British Lions Tour Thread on 16:43 - Jun 27 by robith |
I think Sinckler is tailor made for the impact sub role. He made a couple of errors, but Furlong had a huge game on Saturday and is capable of bigger still
Murray's box kicking was clearly tactical instruction - Farrell kicked 20% of his possession until Sexton came on. All Blacks got wise quick and switched Dagg and Ioane, and started the Glasgow technique of making it look like you're trying to chase down Murray's kick and inadvertently almost break his leg.
The problem wasn't really the backrow but the lack of energy from the tight five, poor rucking all round. O'Brien came close to numerous turnovers if he'd just had a bit more support |
Yes agreed. Murray under orders clearly. But why the decisions not to support at the breakdown?
Gatland putting those players through the 80m is a weird one given his comments about not devaluing the shirt. Were the replacements told they were just there in case someone was maimed- maybe one or two other players turned them down?
When the tour is all done we will look back and wish the NH had a few more decent centres.
However at this stage not sure a world 15 would beat the ABs over a series. | | | |
| British Lions Tour Thread on 17:28 - Jun 27 with 1478 views | SimonJames |
| British Lions Tour Thread on 17:06 - Jun 27 by Phildo |
Yes agreed. Murray under orders clearly. But why the decisions not to support at the breakdown?
Gatland putting those players through the 80m is a weird one given his comments about not devaluing the shirt. Were the replacements told they were just there in case someone was maimed- maybe one or two other players turned them down?
When the tour is all done we will look back and wish the NH had a few more decent centres.
However at this stage not sure a world 15 would beat the ABs over a series. |
"However at this stage not sure a world 15 would beat the ABs over a series."
... and that is the big point. It is unrealistic to expect a scratch team to beat the best, most dominant team in the world. So the Lions players have to, first and foremost, go out there and have fun - and if they don't put themselves under pressure, they might just get an unlikely result. | |
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| British Lions Tour Thread on 18:07 - Jun 27 with 1467 views | robith |
| British Lions Tour Thread on 17:06 - Jun 27 by Phildo |
Yes agreed. Murray under orders clearly. But why the decisions not to support at the breakdown?
Gatland putting those players through the 80m is a weird one given his comments about not devaluing the shirt. Were the replacements told they were just there in case someone was maimed- maybe one or two other players turned them down?
When the tour is all done we will look back and wish the NH had a few more decent centres.
However at this stage not sure a world 15 would beat the ABs over a series. |
Before the tour Henshaw Joseph looked like one of those classic Lions partnerships. They've both been pretty poor. Gutting, as you feel those two have the footballing skills to really put it up the ABs | | | |
| British Lions Tour Thread on 20:08 - Jun 27 with 1441 views | Kiwi76 |
| British Lions Tour Thread on 07:49 - Jun 26 by TGRRRSSS |
Lucky you Kiwi76.
Hope your well generally.
Was rather nervous about this game but in the end the successes versus Maori and the CRusaders were overdone, the Lions had their moments but for the most part as the game progressed I felt the ABs would grab ascendancy.
Much more work to be done, as Lions will throw everything at Wellington Test.
AS for Farrell, he was not given the opportunities and the ABs were better at playing in the right areas of the pitch, somewhat negating the influence he might have had.
INteresting call if they pick Sexton and Farrell this week.
ABS will have changes in personell due to Ben Smith and Crotty out.
ALB for CRotty, Dagg to FB and Naholo in at right wing is what I think will happen.... SAvea not sure as playing for Hurricanes tomorrow. |
All good down here at moment with Lions tour & Americas Cup win.
Getting to all 3 tests and looking forward to great night out in Wellington.
Think weather may play a part though.
Canes finished strong to draw with midweek Lions last night & don't think Gatland will change too much.
Just hope we don't get ref playing starring role - all the b/s Gatland is spraying about is getting tiring. Test rugby is fine lines with rush defence etc but no way this A'B's team is dirty. | | | |
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