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Brexit City : Swansea on 10:52 - Apr 1 by deanscfc
Brexit is already proving to be a shambles and will likely be one of the biggest acts of self harm a country has taken upon itself in the modern era. It's actually hard to sum up the short sightedness of the leave arguments.
I've been to 4 different countries in mainland Europe since the referendum and every time am met with questions not about my opinion on the ref but about how people in the UK could have been so easily fooled. Experiencing places even such as Poland becoming fairly pricey trips because of our currency crashing, and seeing how the quality of life/standards in some of these countries is better, contrary to what the Daily Mail drills into people here every day is sad. Why people voted to remove their rights to live, work, and retire in their own continent on this mistaken idea that immigration was a huge problem and would suddenly stop after Brexit... beggars belief really.
I actually can't see Brexit happening in anything more than name such is the weakness of the UK in all of this. Eventually people will wake up and realise that practically everything the leave campaign said was a lie. We know EU immigrants make a net contribution to the UK economy and we know that regardless of this fact leaving the EU will not dramatically decrease immigration because we can see that non EU immigration keeps rising despite us supposedly 'having control'. We know that leaving the single market is damaging because we can see businesses currently moving away to Europe and if it weren't damaging our Brexiteer cabinet wouldn't be so desperate to get tariff free access to it. We know Brexit was based on lies...the £350m for the NHS, Daniel Hannan telling the public 'absolutely nobody is talking about threatening our place in the single market.." and we can now see that warnings that Brexit could destabilise the UK (claims arrogantly dismissed as project fear) are coming true with Scotland wanting a second referendum, questions over Northern Ireland etc are.
As for the issue of sovereignty, even the Brexit government white paper states that Britain never lost its sovereignty. Those claims of an EU 'dictatorship' were always an insult to people living in actual dictatorships...unless you think that having clean waters, employment rights and protection of the environment is a bad thing. The fact is that if you want the benefits of being a member of something then you have to play by at least some of the rules.
Brexit is an absolute shambles from start to whenever this debacle finishes and the lieks of Johnson, Gove, Farage etc..all of whom only ever had their own interests at heart, and the billionaire owned Daily Mail/Sun/Express completely duped the public into making themselves worse off. Just watch the people who voted for price rises complain about price rises these next few years and just watch those who voted for the government only to have time/money for Brexit complain that the NHS isn't getting the attention and funding it needs... You reap what you sow...
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Brexit City : Swansea on 02:35 - Apr 2 with 1052 views
Brexit City : Swansea on 12:36 - Apr 1 by deanscfc
No point pretending the outlook is bright if we carry on this path. It was basically a vote to weaken the UK and possibly even break it up. A lot of right wing brexit voters dislike political correctness or soft 'snowflake' talk so why not just be blunt about it like I am? Something which rubs a lot of people up the wrong way, which we aren't allowed to talk about is that one of the biggest indicators of a brexit vote was being less educated. Why can't we talk about that? Because it upsets people? I strongly believe that people didn't think about the bigger picture...phrases like 'take back control' or 'get our country back' were enough for them. Many in this country probably spent more time considering their X Factor vote than they did the future of their country.
Spot on mate, even just in my friendship circle those that voted remain read widely have a genuine interest in politics and are aspirational in their own lives. Those who voted leave are your classic daily mail they're over here taking our benefits mentality. There are exceptions but voting remain does correlate with actually taking an interest in issues and intelligence no question. If you're offended tough it's the truth.
The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter
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Brexit City : Swansea on 03:56 - Apr 2 with 1044 views
Spot on mate, even just in my friendship circle those that voted remain read widely have a genuine interest in politics and are aspirational in their own lives. Those who voted leave are your classic daily mail they're over here taking our benefits mentality. There are exceptions but voting remain does correlate with actually taking an interest in issues and intelligence no question. If you're offended tough it's the truth.
Brexit types are the type of people who worry about the colour of passports, want to hang people and beat children. They also want to sell goods in the completely useless pounds and ounces system Like we did in the fifties.
Brexit types are the type of people who worry about the colour of passports, want to hang people and beat children. They also want to sell goods in the completely useless pounds and ounces system Like we did in the fifties.
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