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Las Vegas - Active Shooter 07:50 - Oct 2 with 33072 views34dfgdf54

Horrendous scenes in Las Vegas. The videos make me feel sick, the amount of rounds being fired there is going to be a serious amount of casualties I think.

Terrible world we now live in.
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Las Vegas - Active Shooter on 21:40 - Oct 2 with 3825 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

This sums up how out of control guns are:


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/10/27/a-dog-shoots-a-person-alm

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Las Vegas - Active Shooter on 21:46 - Oct 2 with 3802 viewsDarran

Las Vegas - Active Shooter on 21:40 - Oct 2 by JACKMANANDBOY

This sums up how out of control guns are:


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/10/27/a-dog-shoots-a-person-alm


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Las Vegas - Active Shooter on 21:56 - Oct 2 with 3781 viewsdickythorpe

Las Vegas - Active Shooter on 21:40 - Oct 2 by JACKMANANDBOY

This sums up how out of control guns are:


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/10/27/a-dog-shoots-a-person-alm


They are too stupid to realise how deadly these guns are. The yanks buy them like candy bars.
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Las Vegas - Active Shooter on 21:59 - Oct 2 with 3769 viewsjack2jack

Las Vegas - Active Shooter on 21:26 - Oct 2 by Darran

I've got to be honest if there's anyone out there that thinks something,anything shouldn't be done to the gun laws in the States they've got a screw loose.


Yeah but it encourages kids to get out into the fresh air mun
No seriously if they don't do something after this latest tragedy,then it'll never get done.Its shocking.
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Las Vegas - Active Shooter on 22:01 - Oct 2 with 3764 viewsBanosswan

http://www.denverpost.com/2017/09/30/toddler-shootings-guns/

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Las Vegas - Active Shooter on 22:17 - Oct 2 with 3739 viewsAnotherJohn

"The deadly cache included converted, fully automatic AR-15 style assault rifles with high capacity magazines, according to a law enforcement source."

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/02/las-vegas-shooting-killer-bought-more-than-

So if the above is true then not legal weapons under existing federal law (penalty 10 years in jail). These were either bought illegally or bought legally and converted illegally.
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Las Vegas - Active Shooter on 22:21 - Oct 2 with 3727 viewsGaryjack

Las Vegas - Active Shooter on 20:46 - Oct 2 by jack2jack

Bloody hell!


Here's another one, watch it! And people are allowed to walk the streets of Nevada with one of these?



FVCK IN HELL!
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Las Vegas - Active Shooter on 22:30 - Oct 2 with 3705 viewsjack2jack

Las Vegas - Active Shooter on 22:21 - Oct 2 by Garyjack

Here's another one, watch it! And people are allowed to walk the streets of Nevada with one of these?



FVCK IN HELL!


Just WTF.
No wonder people buy this stuff,when you have clowns like this laughing and joking about what these things are capable of.
And I've just watched the news,what went on there was truly horrific.
I'm speechless.
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Las Vegas - Active Shooter on 22:45 - Oct 2 with 3676 viewsSC_Swan

Las Vegas - Active Shooter on 20:41 - Oct 2 by Jackfath

I'm wondering. Do our American posters own guns?


I know I'm going to get backlash for this, but I'll admit that I do own guns. I grew up on a farm in rural South Carolina where my family would hunt deer, doves, and ducks. I've never been into trophy hunting as I just wanted to help put food on the table for my family or others. When I moved to Columbia (a small city), the guns stayed behind at my parent's house on the farm because there is no reason to have a rifle or shotgun in the city. I have never had a desire to own something like an AR-15 or any military style gun.

We do need stricter gun laws over here, but we also need to better enforce the ones that we do have. It's just too easy for people to find loopholes and get around the background checks for guns.
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Las Vegas - Active Shooter on 23:19 - Oct 2 with 3640 viewsJackfath

Las Vegas - Active Shooter on 22:45 - Oct 2 by SC_Swan

I know I'm going to get backlash for this, but I'll admit that I do own guns. I grew up on a farm in rural South Carolina where my family would hunt deer, doves, and ducks. I've never been into trophy hunting as I just wanted to help put food on the table for my family or others. When I moved to Columbia (a small city), the guns stayed behind at my parent's house on the farm because there is no reason to have a rifle or shotgun in the city. I have never had a desire to own something like an AR-15 or any military style gun.

We do need stricter gun laws over here, but we also need to better enforce the ones that we do have. It's just too easy for people to find loopholes and get around the background checks for guns.


Thank you for your honest answer.

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Las Vegas - Active Shooter on 07:10 - Oct 3 with 3554 viewsnierika

Las Vegas - Active Shooter on 20:41 - Oct 2 by Jackfath

I'm wondering. Do our American posters own guns?


I have never owned a gun and will never own one for the rest of my life. I prefer to use an electric stun gun for self defense.

The founders of this country never imagined the type of weapons that are available today would even exist. They were using musket balls for gods sake.

Today I heard at least 2 people say "I hope something like this never happens again." If nothing changes, how in the fcuk will it not continue to happen over and over???

The Republican party and this country has been hijacked by the NRA and paranoid nutjobs that think theyre preventing some kind of government intrusion with high powered weaponry.
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Las Vegas - Active Shooter on 07:41 - Oct 3 with 3532 viewsdickythorpe

Las Vegas - Active Shooter on 07:10 - Oct 3 by nierika

I have never owned a gun and will never own one for the rest of my life. I prefer to use an electric stun gun for self defense.

The founders of this country never imagined the type of weapons that are available today would even exist. They were using musket balls for gods sake.

Today I heard at least 2 people say "I hope something like this never happens again." If nothing changes, how in the fcuk will it not continue to happen over and over???

The Republican party and this country has been hijacked by the NRA and paranoid nutjobs that think theyre preventing some kind of government intrusion with high powered weaponry.


You own a stun gun for self defence. Wow! What a ringing endorsement for living in the " greatest country in the world"
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Las Vegas - Active Shooter on 10:07 - Oct 3 with 3487 viewsJackSomething

Las Vegas - Active Shooter on 22:45 - Oct 2 by SC_Swan

I know I'm going to get backlash for this, but I'll admit that I do own guns. I grew up on a farm in rural South Carolina where my family would hunt deer, doves, and ducks. I've never been into trophy hunting as I just wanted to help put food on the table for my family or others. When I moved to Columbia (a small city), the guns stayed behind at my parent's house on the farm because there is no reason to have a rifle or shotgun in the city. I have never had a desire to own something like an AR-15 or any military style gun.

We do need stricter gun laws over here, but we also need to better enforce the ones that we do have. It's just too easy for people to find loopholes and get around the background checks for guns.


As Fath said, thanks for the honest answer. This is also a viewpoint that I can understand and it's positive to hear from a gun owner with an understandable view on the situation.

I don't think anyone realistically thinks gun ownership could be made totally illegal in the US, there are too many guns already out there to make this enforceable.

But stricter laws over the kinds of guns that can be owned and overhauled background checks, waiting times, etc surely make sense to everyone but the most rabid NRA types? It may not make a big difference initially, but over time would have more and more of an effect.

Also, is it just me that thinks it's nuts that it's legal to own a gun that can be presumably reasonably easily modified to an illegal (and more lethal) condition?

You know, Hobbes, some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help.

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Las Vegas - Active Shooter on 10:10 - Oct 3 with 3487 viewsJackSomething

Las Vegas - Active Shooter on 18:25 - Oct 2 by whoflungdung

whether they care or not, they will still love their grotesque beloved guns

They really are reaping the whirlwind.


American cities should see activists on the streets demanding repealing that amendment.

If they dont,this sort of thing will continue

Its that simple, folks, Give them Up


I agree in principle Perch, but look at the violence (on both sides, not looking to re-open this can of worms) in the recent demonstrations in the US.

Then think about the people who you're going to be angering by marching about gun laws. One nutjob just killed over 50 people at a concert who were just enjoying some live music. What would a couple of nutjobs do against a crowd of people trying to take their beloved guns away from them?

You know, Hobbes, some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help.

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Las Vegas - Active Shooter on 10:17 - Oct 3 with 3478 viewsLord_Bony

People knew of this attack before it happened.

Warning given in crowd 45 mins beforehand.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/861252/Las-Vegas-shooting-latest-news-Mandal

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Las Vegas - Active Shooter on 11:04 - Oct 3 with 3449 viewsnierika

Las Vegas - Active Shooter on 07:41 - Oct 3 by dickythorpe

You own a stun gun for self defence. Wow! What a ringing endorsement for living in the " greatest country in the world"


Huh??? Ive never used it and its mostly for if my g/f has to go out at night by herself. Pretty sure there are muggings/stabbings just about everywhere including the UK.
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Las Vegas - Active Shooter on 12:00 - Oct 3 with 3415 viewsPegojack

Las Vegas - Active Shooter on 07:10 - Oct 3 by nierika

I have never owned a gun and will never own one for the rest of my life. I prefer to use an electric stun gun for self defense.

The founders of this country never imagined the type of weapons that are available today would even exist. They were using musket balls for gods sake.

Today I heard at least 2 people say "I hope something like this never happens again." If nothing changes, how in the fcuk will it not continue to happen over and over???

The Republican party and this country has been hijacked by the NRA and paranoid nutjobs that think theyre preventing some kind of government intrusion with high powered weaponry.


I sympathise very much with your viewpoint, but I must ask you and our other American friends this question.

In the unlikely event that strict gun laws were passed in the USA, let's say really strict, the same levels as exist in the UK for the sake of argument, how practical would it be to collect and decommission the vast majority of the guns out there in private ownership amongst law abiding citizens?

Isn't it the case that it could never be achieved in practice? and that's before we even consider the guns owned by the criminal fraternity.
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Las Vegas - Active Shooter on 12:10 - Oct 3 with 3408 viewssnork44

Las Vegas - Active Shooter on 11:04 - Oct 3 by nierika

Huh??? Ive never used it and its mostly for if my g/f has to go out at night by herself. Pretty sure there are muggings/stabbings just about everywhere including the UK.


In the UK my step-father had two shotguns,so I grew up with firearms in the house. I have been living in the US for nearly five years in a rural area,we hear gunfire quite regularly usually from hunters. Although I don't have a firearm , I understand the ownership of rifles and shotguns for hunting and handguns for self protection as most people around here are 20 minutes from a police station/sheriffs office.

The elderly and people on their own have a gun for protection although particularly the elderly would be more likely to end up shooting themselves or their family members if there was an intruder on their property. What I can't in the life of me can't understand is the ownership of an AR-15 or an AK-47 ,although these aren't the military versions they still spew out bullets at a rapid rate! These weapons are designed for one thing and one thing only and that is to kill human beings not animals or birds.

Wayne La Pierre and his fellow band of nut jobs at the NRA will look at events like this as a vindication of their obsession with arming every American adult with a firearm even though it would not have helped with a lunatic firing from a hotel room with more guns than a small African army. In fact Wayne more likely would have been punching the air with glee at prospect of more members joining and more guns being bought as gun ownership always rises after massacres like this. As someone said on here if they weren't going to take action after the Sandy Hook massacre then they sure as hell aren't going to do it after Las Vegas, as a society the United States looks at events like this shakes their collective heads, shrugs their shoulders and just accept things like this as a part of life.
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Las Vegas - Active Shooter on 12:29 - Oct 3 with 3380 viewslondonlisa2001

Las Vegas - Active Shooter on 12:00 - Oct 3 by Pegojack

I sympathise very much with your viewpoint, but I must ask you and our other American friends this question.

In the unlikely event that strict gun laws were passed in the USA, let's say really strict, the same levels as exist in the UK for the sake of argument, how practical would it be to collect and decommission the vast majority of the guns out there in private ownership amongst law abiding citizens?

Isn't it the case that it could never be achieved in practice? and that's before we even consider the guns owned by the criminal fraternity.


In Japan they have really strict regulation on the sale of bullets. You can only buy new bullets if you take in the spent cartridges or cases or whatever apparently.

Making it impossible to buy ammunition for the weapons may be a place to start? And banning new sales of (certain) guns. Getting the ones in circulation back would be too hard (although they did it here and in Australia, but it was very different).

The reality is we have deranged lunatics here as well. But it's impossible to kill a large number of people with a knife as the person would be stopped way before they could do that. Also, obviously, impossible to do it from a distance.

This situation is awful. It's inposssible to imagine what on earth has happened. The bloke was in his sixties, living in a retirement village, an accountant with no criminal history at all, and he does this? Although he also seems to have had an obsession with guns, which doesn't fit anything either. Really dreadful - those poor people.
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Las Vegas - Active Shooter on 13:23 - Oct 3 with 3336 viewswhoflungdung

Why did you shoot these ducks,deer and other mammals? Were you too far away from grocery stores or did you just kill them for sport.

Truly ,why people ,in 2017, want to blow creatures away for fun is beyond me.

If you hunt, in my opinion, if you don't do it out of necessity ,you are one sick bastard


No need


And no need to have an Arsenal of weapons


It's killing your country


Can't you see that


You don't need greater control. you need to stop buying them completely

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Las Vegas - Active Shooter on 14:06 - Oct 3 with 3295 viewsJoe_bradshaw

Stricter gun laws are unlikely though why anyone wants semi automatic weapons let alone automatic ones beats me. They really should be banned.

Proper enforcement of the existing laws would help a bit. Thomas Hamilton would not have been in a position to carry out the Dunblane atrocity if the police had done their job.

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Las Vegas - Active Shooter on 14:17 - Oct 3 with 3280 viewsTummer_from_Texas

Las Vegas - Active Shooter on 20:52 - Oct 2 by Jackfath

It's a genuine question. Do they own guns?


No, I did a little dove and quail hunting with shotguns many years ago, but I don't like guns. I've never even fired a rifle or handgun, and doubt I ever will.

Melinda wants one though, which is a point of contention in our house right now.

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Las Vegas - Active Shooter on 14:21 - Oct 3 with 3262 viewswhoflungdung

Why do people need automatic weapons


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Las Vegas - Active Shooter on 14:44 - Oct 3 with 3242 viewsHighjack

Las Vegas - Active Shooter on 14:17 - Oct 3 by Tummer_from_Texas

No, I did a little dove and quail hunting with shotguns many years ago, but I don't like guns. I've never even fired a rifle or handgun, and doubt I ever will.

Melinda wants one though, which is a point of contention in our house right now.


Ah yes the ancient sport of quail hunting, the adrenaline pumps as the skillfull hunter uses every inch of his inate predatory instinct to kill a fat, virtually flightless bird who can reach speeds of up to 12 miles per hour with a massive gun.

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Las Vegas - Active Shooter on 14:53 - Oct 3 with 3237 viewsacejack3065

Las Vegas - Active Shooter on 14:44 - Oct 3 by Highjack

Ah yes the ancient sport of quail hunting, the adrenaline pumps as the skillfull hunter uses every inch of his inate predatory instinct to kill a fat, virtually flightless bird who can reach speeds of up to 12 miles per hour with a massive gun.


Much more interesting if you're playing the Dick Cheney variation.
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