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| The latest (non) deal on 00:46 - Oct 10 with 697 views | DorsetIan |
ASIS, all you are saying is that no one knows the future. Can’t argue with that.
Trouble is we can assume that the future will be broadly like the past, so ‘experts’ in economics or trade or logistics or transport can make some pretty good guesses based on years of accumulated knowledge about how things work.
Dismissing them all as never getting anything right is, frankly, just dumb, and really is only because you don’t like what they are saying.
That said, good to have you back. You haven’t been posting too much Brexit stuff recently. | |
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| The latest (non) deal on 01:28 - Oct 10 with 683 views | Bicester_North |
Not hard, like your anti Semitic cock mush. | |
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| The latest (non) deal on 08:43 - Oct 10 with 630 views | GasGiant |
Yes, although Edinburgh is significant as a financial centre its components are almost all dependent on the domestic (ie mainly English) market; .RBS, HBOS TSB etc, plus the big pension providers. If the EU proceeds with its vindictive and spiteful trades tax (designed to milk London disproportionately without affecting France or Germany) it will hit Edinburgh if Scotland stays, and the big domestic corporations will be drawn towards England. If Scotland voted to rejoin the EU Edinburgh would not only lose business to England but without England would be prey to the centralising pull of Frankfurt and Paris.As I always say I am not anti EU but I am anti this particular EU, which exists to enrich France and Getmany and those who cling to their coat tails (like Luxembourg). [Post edited 10 Oct 2019 8:44]
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| The latest (non) deal on 09:20 - Oct 10 with 619 views | Marcus_y |
And there lies the problem.
Remainers only believe the expert stuff they read that supports their view.
Leavers only believe what they read, when it supports their view.
Remainers are 100% right, as are the leavers.
It is like a kids row in a playground. | |
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| The latest (non) deal on 09:27 - Oct 10 with 618 views | kentsouthampton |
The final outcome will be this country in slow decline for several years,the leave camp is basically boiling a frog and you're the frog. | | | |
| The latest (non) deal on 09:29 - Oct 10 with 615 views | kentsouthampton |
There is a big difference between expert economists and historians and junior hacks writing in the Sun/Express/Mail. This seems to have been lost on a majority of leavers. | | | |
| The latest (non) deal on 09:30 - Oct 10 with 613 views | Bicester_North |
Boiling frogs is almost as unpleasant as throwing bricks over walls at innocent kids you skate plum. | |
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| The latest (non) deal on 09:32 - Oct 10 with 609 views | Marcus_y |
There you go. You have just proven some remainers have an arrogance that knows no bounds. You are a bigot and unable to accept that there are some top businessmen and financial experts etc., that say Brexit is a good thing. But of course in your bubble it is only the tabloids that say it as they are thick. Take a look at yourself and your idiocy. [Post edited 10 Oct 2019 9:34]
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| The latest (non) deal on 10:09 - Oct 10 with 597 views | DorsetIan |
Which trade experts do you agree with Marcus? | |
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| The latest (non) deal on 10:44 - Oct 10 with 586 views | Marcus_y |
None, fully. I do not know, neither do you or any of the others what the truth is and what may or may not happen. Like all sensible people, I listen to all sides, take from it what sounds right and make my own opinion. I still do not know if leave or remain is better, neither do you. No one will until it happens. | |
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| The latest (non) deal on 10:53 - Oct 10 with 584 views | grumpy |
There is arrogance shown on both sides.
Some leavers think even without a deal everything will be ok.I think the whole Brexit idea is a complete mess.
Whatever happens there will be unrest.
If we leave without a deal you can say goodbye to the United Kingdom because it will be far from that. With that say goodbye to the Union Jack.Its very sad we find ourselves in this mess. | | | |
| The latest (non) deal on 10:56 - Oct 10 with 581 views | grumpy |
We know what its like to be in the EU,we've been in it for 26 years. | | | |
| The latest (non) deal on 12:02 - Oct 10 with 564 views | DorsetIan |
If you are not able to make your own mind up about this, why are you so critical of those that can?
It is neither stupid nor 'project fear' to have listened to everything that is being said and come to the conclusion that Brexit would be a bad idea and that a 'no deal' would be massively problematic. You might disagree with it (in which case explain why) but it's a perfectly reasonable position and it's not enough to dismiss it on the basis that 'nobody knows'. | |
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| The latest (non) deal on 12:24 - Oct 10 with 554 views | Marcus_y |
That is just my point. How can anyone with any brain power make their choice without believing what they want to believe. It is all speculation. The future cannot be predicted. So, you are making a pure assumption based on facts u believe while dismissing facts opposing that view. Get it now? | |
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| The latest (non) deal on 12:35 - Oct 10 with 551 views | Heisenberg |
It's obvious what will happen.
Compromise deal with the EU leaving remainers and hard Brexiteers like Farage and co both unhappy.
No deal wont happen due to legal wranglings that will go on and on irrespective of any General Election result.
It goes on and on with endless delays.
I reckon they will be still arguing about it in 10 years time. | |
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| The latest (non) deal on 13:22 - Oct 10 with 537 views | kentsouthampton |
Minford probably, although he has had to delete everything on his website as it's all been shown to be total BS.
These were Minford's post brexit predictions, the same predictions that people like Farage and Davis were quoting.
They are also the "experts" that Marcus_y is pinning his forlorn hopes on. | | | |
| The latest (non) deal on 13:29 - Oct 10 with 535 views | DorsetIan |
So do you agree with this?...
There is no rational reason to leave the EU. There is also no rational reason to stay. Any arguments in favour of leaving or remaining are both pure speculation, as we cannot know the future. We can leave or we can stay, it is impossible for anyone to chose between them. We might as well toss a coin. | |
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| The latest (non) deal on 01:13 - Oct 11 with 488 views | dirk_doone |
Boris is a real charmer. After meeting him, both Macron and Varadka looked like they were in love.
Charm counts for a lot. Unfortunately, it's something that May, Corbyn and Swinson totally lack.
Excelling in politics is more about style than substance but credit to Boris if he gets his deal. | |
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| The latest (non) deal on 08:10 - Oct 11 with 407 views | grumpy |
This the way its going is it? Everyone so fed up with Brexit that they will give up and let it happen.Leaving the EU will lead to the break up the Union,take the great out Britain,the Union out of the Kingdom and give us a new flag.
Still it will be alright we have our independence from those nasty Europeans and get a great trade deal on WTO terms and Trump will see us alright,give me strength to injure | | | |
| The latest (non) deal on 08:26 - Oct 11 with 401 views | grumpy |
So this is what its come to? Everyone so fed up with Brexit they will just give up.
Leaving the EU will break up the Union,take the Great out Britain,the United out of Kingdom,give us a new flag losing the Union Jack across the world.
Still everything will be alright when we have our independence from those nasty Europeans and have our trade deal on WTO terms and Trump will see us alright,give me strength to injure.
Not saying the EU is perfect but its better to be within and trying to make it better than outside trying to get a deal.
Not sure I could handle the thought of Boris,Jacob Rees Mogg,Priti Patel etc smirking at getting a deal through that would so damage this great country. | | | |
| The latest (non) deal on 08:41 - Oct 11 with 391 views | Heisenberg |
I see the pole dancing friend Johnson gave money to illegally has said 'Boris will make Britain great again'. A phrase straight from that dimwit Trumps mouth.
Britain is already great. Not without problems but still great in lots of ways. It doesn't need a womanising bumbling lying buffoon to make it great.
As for the EU deal not doubt we will see the clown saying he's done it over the next few days only for it to fall apart once Farage and the DUP nut jobs get there hands on it. We have become a laughing stock led by a complete idiot. | |
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| The latest (non) deal on 08:46 - Oct 11 with 391 views | Butty101 |
Like most people im sick of it. I honestly dont have a clue how this will pan out. I did vote leave , but frankly both sides are a bunch of shysters and dont deserve their positions of authority.
In hindisght there shouldnt have been a referendum. | |
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| The latest (non) deal on 10:02 - Oct 11 with 375 views | Chesham_Saint |
I kind of agree with you about the referendum, Butts. Anti EU feeling has clearly snow-balled to unexpected levels and we are now so divided. This has not not been helped by the duplicity of politicians and most of the so-called ‘elite’ clearly stalling the whole thing. Add to that the wide boy quasi-racist tactics of the likes of Aaron Banks and views are even more entrenched.
It seems now that a second referendum would only work if it were on the basis that the principle of leaving was decided by the first referendum (and should be respected) with the follow up a choice between no deal and whatever deal Jonhnson can now get.
Everyone has to remember that in a compromise neither party ends up getting 100% of what they’d ideally want or the stalemate will not be broken. | |
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| The latest (non) deal on 11:19 - Oct 11 with 361 views | DorsetIan |
Fair play to Johnson if he can pull a deal out of the hat. Be interesting to see how different it is to May's deal and how all those previously dead set against her deal then respond. Lots of politics to play out in the next 8 days. | |
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| The latest (non) deal on 13:25 - Oct 11 with 336 views | kentsouthampton |
It will be Mays original deal - WA with a border in the Irish sea, it's the only option available that fulfils the commitment to the GFA without the backstop, anything else is just wishful thinking. | | | |
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