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Jesus 09:19 - Dec 26 with 14796 viewsJackfath

Did he exist?

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Jesus on 09:20 - Dec 26 with 6764 viewsLeonWasGod

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Jesus on 09:22 - Dec 26 with 6755 viewsJackfath

Jesus on 09:20 - Dec 26 by LeonWasGod

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I'm not going anywhere near him after he's inhaled half a ton of sprouts yesterday. He'll be reeking.

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Jesus on 09:26 - Dec 26 with 6731 viewsMrSwerve

Probably, but just as a person with high moral values for the time in which he lived, rather than the son of god.

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Jesus on 09:31 - Dec 26 with 6711 viewsJackfath

Jesus on 09:26 - Dec 26 by MrSwerve

Probably, but just as a person with high moral values for the time in which he lived, rather than the son of god.


Why did they follow and write about him?

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Jesus on 09:33 - Dec 26 with 6703 viewsWhiterockin

Like many posters on this board, they never let the facts get in the way of a good story.
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Jesus on 09:35 - Dec 26 with 6700 viewsScotia

I lived with a history student in uni. Apparently Jesus is well documented and definitely existed. Apparently he was considered to be a religious leader of some sort.

I suspect the rest is guff though.
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Jesus on 09:39 - Dec 26 with 6686 viewsItchySphincter

As a person but with none of the magic boIIocks. Jewish royalty.

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Jesus on 09:42 - Dec 26 with 6678 viewsJackfath

If he did exist, why did people make up, and still believe his magical abilities? I've so many questions and very few answers on this topic which shows a distinct lack of belief and ignorance. Do we have any strong believers here willing to debate this in the way Jesus would have wanted us to?

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Jesus on 09:47 - Dec 26 with 6662 viewsMrSwerve

Jesus on 09:42 - Dec 26 by Jackfath

If he did exist, why did people make up, and still believe his magical abilities? I've so many questions and very few answers on this topic which shows a distinct lack of belief and ignorance. Do we have any strong believers here willing to debate this in the way Jesus would have wanted us to?


Look at the way North Korea have made up things over the last few decades about their leader. Even easier to do back then.

As has been said, Jesus has been well documented...and even as an atheist I can accept that.

All of the magical stuff though is a load of rubbish just like most of the bible (as a factual text).

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Jesus on 09:47 - Dec 26 with 6659 viewsItchySphincter

Jesus on 09:42 - Dec 26 by Jackfath

If he did exist, why did people make up, and still believe his magical abilities? I've so many questions and very few answers on this topic which shows a distinct lack of belief and ignorance. Do we have any strong believers here willing to debate this in the way Jesus would have wanted us to?


I've read (skimmed) many different theological theories, where does one begin? As historically real as Pontius Pilate, that's about it. The stories included in the bible were agreed at the treaty of Constantinople, years later, I think.

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Jesus on 09:54 - Dec 26 with 6641 viewsJackfath

Jesus on 09:47 - Dec 26 by MrSwerve

Look at the way North Korea have made up things over the last few decades about their leader. Even easier to do back then.

As has been said, Jesus has been well documented...and even as an atheist I can accept that.

All of the magical stuff though is a load of rubbish just like most of the bible (as a factual text).


Why do supposed intelligent people still think that the magic happened?

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Jesus on 09:54 - Dec 26 with 6638 viewsMuteswan

One day in the future, Planet Swans will be history and people will read and believe that Declan John was worthy of a first team place too. Unbelievable Jeff. 🙄
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Jesus on 09:54 - Dec 26 with 6636 viewsWarwickHunt

Jesus on 09:31 - Dec 26 by Jackfath

Why did they follow and write about him?


See also: Icke,D.
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Jesus on 10:13 - Dec 26 with 6593 viewsShaky

Jesus on 09:54 - Dec 26 by Jackfath

Why do supposed intelligent people still think that the magic happened?


do you think this is magic? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hysterical_strength

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Jesus on 10:19 - Dec 26 with 6570 viewstheloneranger

Jesus on 10:13 - Dec 26 by Shaky

do you think this is magic? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hysterical_strength


So Jesus was taking Amphetamines?? 😂

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Jesus on 10:20 - Dec 26 with 6568 viewsJack_Meoff

No wonder he was crucified. All that turning water into wine and feeding the multitudes with a loaf of Hovis and a few fish would be very bad for the profit margin...

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Jesus on 10:21 - Dec 26 with 6567 viewsmonmouth

Jesus on 09:35 - Dec 26 by Scotia

I lived with a history student in uni. Apparently Jesus is well documented and definitely existed. Apparently he was considered to be a religious leader of some sort.

I suspect the rest is guff though.


You ‘suspect’ the rest is guff??

You mean you don’t think his mother was a virgin and his daddy a non existent sky fairy?

Burn him.

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Jesus on 10:21 - Dec 26 with 6567 viewsLeonWasGod

Jesus on 09:54 - Dec 26 by Jackfath

Why do supposed intelligent people still think that the magic happened?


Good question fathy.

We as a race have been inventing higher powers to believe in since the dawn of our time. It’s a big, tough, scary universe out there; do people need reassurance there’s a reason to it? Do they need a way of reconciling what we/they don’t understand? Religion is interwoven with culture and tradition too, so for some is that the reason they partake rather than being ‘believers’?
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Jesus on 10:29 - Dec 26 with 6540 viewsLeonWasGod

Jesus on 10:21 - Dec 26 by monmouth

You ‘suspect’ the rest is guff??

You mean you don’t think his mother was a virgin and his daddy a non existent sky fairy?

Burn him.


I can see how a married woman could give the impression of being a virgin. As the saying goes, marriage is after all the best form of contraception
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Jesus on 10:40 - Dec 26 with 6528 viewsoldcob

Ironically the world of Islam holds Jesus with great reverence as a prophet of a very high order. Obviously they claim Jesus was a Muslim. When having my chemo sessions I down-loaded the Koran on my kindle and read it whilst receiving treatment, something I recommend, (not the chemo) and discovered it at least 90% similar to the bible. As with any religion it's all about how the individual takes it and lives it out. If a person who is bad will be bad whatever religion he follows.
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Jesus on 10:45 - Dec 26 with 6520 viewsdickythorpe

Only the book of Matthew documents the "virgin birth"

I just believe that 2000 years ago, well before x boxes, pornhub, and real ales that many people needed a leader of sorts and the more academic used to record things and it all got put together into what we know as The Bible.

Without dismissing Jesus completely you'd have to remember that anyone who was slightly more intelligent and articulate in those days would have appealed to those less brighter.
Almost like modern day, we get bored with the "system", those of us who can't influence or change things always prick our years up to alternative and potentially positive new approaches.
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Jesus on 10:46 - Dec 26 with 6516 viewsJackfath

Jesus on 10:45 - Dec 26 by dickythorpe

Only the book of Matthew documents the "virgin birth"

I just believe that 2000 years ago, well before x boxes, pornhub, and real ales that many people needed a leader of sorts and the more academic used to record things and it all got put together into what we know as The Bible.

Without dismissing Jesus completely you'd have to remember that anyone who was slightly more intelligent and articulate in those days would have appealed to those less brighter.
Almost like modern day, we get bored with the "system", those of us who can't influence or change things always prick our years up to alternative and potentially positive new approaches.


Are you suggesting the Planet Earth is 2000 years old?

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Jesus on 10:48 - Dec 26 with 6511 viewsdickythorpe

Of course not Fath, but you knew that already didn't you, you cheeky scamp!!!
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Jesus on 10:53 - Dec 26 with 6498 viewsJackfath

Jesus on 10:48 - Dec 26 by dickythorpe

Of course not Fath, but you knew that already didn't you, you cheeky scamp!!!


I knew a chap who was convinced the Earth was 2000 years old. Used to have great debates with him over a sandwich and cup of tea. He was a great man.

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Jesus on 10:56 - Dec 26 with 6494 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Plays for Man City FFS

How can I be sure, named after his dad.
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