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Labour.Day of shame for the party on 12:56 - Oct 30 by onehunglow
What could she say .
We are talking of a mindset and that is hard to change.
It’s like expecting Welsh nationalists to realise their dream of separation is really fantasy.
Either there is a problem particularly in Liverpool and the Wirral with racist people because that is the area she represented or there is little problem to speak of, hence possibly why she apparently had no specific answers to what can be done.
It's amazing how Jewish people get to the top of the Labour party despite all this discrimination against them, absolutely amazing.
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Continually being banned by Planet Swans for Porthcawl and then being reinstated.
I see it as a chance for Labour to reinvent itself and rebuild. The timing is perfect, the Corbyn experiment is over and we know that there’s no way a Momentum style party can be elected. This is a way to cut that wing of the party, whilst being seen by moderates to be taking decisive action against an independent report.
There’s also time to get through this. Years until a general election and politics isn’t exactly ‘normal’ at the minute - it’s practically dead time that can be used to regroup.
I could never have voted for Corbyn but can see Starmer’s labour being a political home for me.
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Labour.Day of shame for the party on 14:03 - Oct 30 with 862 views
I see Drakeford refused to answer a question in his daily press conference today. He was asked does he support Keir Starmer decision to suspend Corbyn.
Labour.Day of shame for the party on 14:04 - Oct 30 by felixstowe_jack
I see Drakeford refused to answer a question in his daily press conference today. He was asked does he support Keir Starmer decision to suspend Corbyn.
Drakeford was/is a big supporter of Corbyn.
Remember that the Deputy Leader of Welsh Labour said in court that calling her gay colleague a "Dyke" and physically assaulting her because of her sexuality would just have been "office banter".
Amid calls from all parties for her to resign, I'll let you guess which party leader was the only one to publicly defend her. Here's a clue, he and Neil Griffin (British National Party) are the only two party leaders to be investigated by the Equality and Human Rights Comission.
Labour.Day of shame for the party on 13:19 - Oct 30 by trampie
Either there is a problem particularly in Liverpool and the Wirral with racist people because that is the area she represented or there is little problem to speak of, hence possibly why she apparently had no specific answers to what can be done.
It's amazing how Jewish people get to the top of the Labour party despite all this discrimination against them, absolutely amazing.
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How many (since Corbyn took power) at the top end of Labour are Jewish then? Keir Starmer isn't Jewish though married to one.
Remember that the Deputy Leader of Welsh Labour said in court that calling her gay colleague a "Dyke" and physically assaulting her because of her sexuality would just have been "office banter".
Amid calls from all parties for her to resign, I'll let you guess which party leader was the only one to publicly defend her. Here's a clue, he and Neil Griffin (British National Party) are the only two party leaders to be investigated by the Equality and Human Rights Comission.
You are right,it's about time they investigate the conservatives for isalmphobia
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Labour.Day of shame for the party on 09:56 - Oct 31 with 739 views
Labour.Day of shame for the party on 13:13 - Oct 29 by Professor
Well I have just listed to 30 minutes of it on BBC radio. So another 'fake fact' eh?
Tories hear what they want to hear. My political view is one of quite left of centre. Let's hope Starmer has no skeletons in his closet as he may be able to get the party back on track and challenge the ineffectual silver spooned loons.
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Labour.Day of shame for the party on 11:10 - Oct 31 by jack_lord
Tories hear what they want to hear. My political view is one of quite left of centre. Let's hope Starmer has no skeletons in his closet as he may be able to get the party back on track and challenge the ineffectual silver spooned loons.
He’s a politician for crying out loud! Do you think there any that don’t have some rattling about in the background?
An idea isn't responsible for those who believe in it.
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Labour.Day of shame for the party on 11:38 - Oct 31 with 698 views
Labour.Day of shame for the party on 11:10 - Oct 31 by jack_lord
Tories hear what they want to hear. My political view is one of quite left of centre. Let's hope Starmer has no skeletons in his closet as he may be able to get the party back on track and challenge the ineffectual silver spooned loons.
As is the case with Labour with overwhelming evidence on here.
The very idea Tories could do anything at all with any merit is anathema to most on here and in south Wales so utterly hoodwinked are they by the concept of Labour being for the working man. My mum's dad thought that and died slowly and in poverty under a Labour government so I aint having it at all a regards Labour and its care for the ordinary/poor/deprived or whatever label they attach to people.
Personally,I class Tory politicans as mainly insouciant or ambivolent and Labour as simple hypocrites and class warriors using "poverty" as a political tool;it turn my stomach.
Thi country would be far better off if people didnt vote Labour or Conservative because their dad/grandad/Aunt Doris has always done.
Labour.Day of shame for the party on 11:38 - Oct 31 by onehunglow
As is the case with Labour with overwhelming evidence on here.
The very idea Tories could do anything at all with any merit is anathema to most on here and in south Wales so utterly hoodwinked are they by the concept of Labour being for the working man. My mum's dad thought that and died slowly and in poverty under a Labour government so I aint having it at all a regards Labour and its care for the ordinary/poor/deprived or whatever label they attach to people.
Personally,I class Tory politicans as mainly insouciant or ambivolent and Labour as simple hypocrites and class warriors using "poverty" as a political tool;it turn my stomach.
Thi country would be far better off if people didnt vote Labour or Conservative because their dad/grandad/Aunt Doris has always done.
Wake up ,it's a beautiful morning.
I agree that people should not vote for any party just because it is what they/their family has always done. There are only a couple of million welsh voters and many have deep rooted social community responsibility because of their history. It doesn't make it it right why they follow, like sheep, the simple voting choice. Obviously this conversely the same in many areas of England who would vote for a monkey if it had a blue rosette on pretending to throw £50 notes in to the crowd.
I follow my social conscience when voting. This is not just based on my five years studying the economics of government but the subsequent years of watching the politicians and what they deliver. I have voted for other political parties. I, do, however loathe the history of Margaret Thatcher and everything she stands for.
Lord_Jack increasingly detached from the riches of kicking a ball
Labour.Day of shame for the party on 01:11 - Nov 1 by jack_lord
I agree that people should not vote for any party just because it is what they/their family has always done. There are only a couple of million welsh voters and many have deep rooted social community responsibility because of their history. It doesn't make it it right why they follow, like sheep, the simple voting choice. Obviously this conversely the same in many areas of England who would vote for a monkey if it had a blue rosette on pretending to throw £50 notes in to the crowd.
I follow my social conscience when voting. This is not just based on my five years studying the economics of government but the subsequent years of watching the politicians and what they deliver. I have voted for other political parties. I, do, however loathe the history of Margaret Thatcher and everything she stands for.
Damn right, mate.
I thought you were a Tory Lord for a minute. Thank God you're not.
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Labour.Day of shame for the party on 09:50 - Nov 1 with 621 views
Labour.Day of shame for the party on 01:18 - Nov 1 by FieryJack
Damn right, mate.
I thought you were a Tory Lord for a minute. Thank God you're not.
Well I'll say it I hate tories and anyone who votes for them utter scum, and yes when T******r passed i got p*ssed celebrating, even though i felt she got off lightly
and don't bother@ me
The hair and the beard have gone I am now conforming to society, tis a sad day
The b*stards are coming back though
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Labour.Day of shame for the party on 09:55 - Nov 1 with 612 views
Labour.Day of shame for the party on 09:50 - Nov 1 by epaul
Well I'll say it I hate tories and anyone who votes for them utter scum, and yes when T******r passed i got p*ssed celebrating, even though i felt she got off lightly
and don't bother@ me
Well,here we go.
Decent people insulted because of how they vote.
You really should not have anything to do with them.When you're in hospital ,ask them if they vote Tory ,then refuse to have anything to do with them.
Millions because they dont believe as this poster does..
What to do then,ban the party and have a one party socialist state where everyone believes as you do.
This is the politics of Stalin and it fills me with vomit
Millions detet Labour over their cowardice with Union leaders in the 70s holding this country to ransom.
That labour was unelectable which how. majority hated labour.Blair changed it to NEW Labour then sent us to an illegal war the results of which have been catastrophic.
Yep,Im apolitical alright,now we have a coward in Boris who will not give us the leadership we all need.
Labour.Day of shame for the party on 11:31 - Nov 1 by onehunglow
Yes Jase.
Millions detet Labour over their cowardice with Union leaders in the 70s holding this country to ransom.
That labour was unelectable which how. majority hated labour.Blair changed it to NEW Labour then sent us to an illegal war the results of which have been catastrophic.
Yep,Im apolitical alright,now we have a coward in Boris who will not give us the leadership we all need.
So reading between the lines, you do seem to have some interest in politics by the small fact you are discussing these issues and therefore that would be the opposite of apolitical.
Clearly you hate the Labour party which is fine, it's your point of view. There were reasons that unions existed. Many youngster in the lifetime after will thank the fact that unions exist and that the National Minimum wage was introduced.
I'm pretty sure that Blair did more than just send us in to an illegal war. The Conservative Prime minister sent us in to, what many of us shippers, will consider an illegal war in 1982.
Lord_Jack increasingly detached from the riches of kicking a ball
Labour.Day of shame for the party on 11:52 - Nov 1 by jack_lord
So reading between the lines, you do seem to have some interest in politics by the small fact you are discussing these issues and therefore that would be the opposite of apolitical.
Clearly you hate the Labour party which is fine, it's your point of view. There were reasons that unions existed. Many youngster in the lifetime after will thank the fact that unions exist and that the National Minimum wage was introduced.
I'm pretty sure that Blair did more than just send us in to an illegal war. The Conservative Prime minister sent us in to, what many of us shippers, will consider an illegal war in 1982.
All the more reason to be apolitical. Virtually all top politicians of all the parties are "professional politicians" ie they have done very little else. They are in it just for themselves and not for the people. At local level that is not so much the case, some work tirelessly for their communities regardless of their party.
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Labour.Day of shame for the party on 12:22 - Nov 1 with 565 views
Labour.Day of shame for the party on 12:08 - Nov 1 by A_Fans_Dad
All the more reason to be apolitical. Virtually all top politicians of all the parties are "professional politicians" ie they have done very little else. They are in it just for themselves and not for the people. At local level that is not so much the case, some work tirelessly for their communities regardless of their party.
Your last paragraph has been one of curiosity for a good while. Some of the councillors will certainly put more effort in than others - that is mirrored in everyday life. I question their motives as I know a few and it has been suggested that they are only there for the party and to rub shoulders. They certainly aren't doing it for free.
Lord_Jack increasingly detached from the riches of kicking a ball
Labour.Day of shame for the party on 12:22 - Nov 1 by jack_lord
Your last paragraph has been one of curiosity for a good while. Some of the councillors will certainly put more effort in than others - that is mirrored in everyday life. I question their motives as I know a few and it has been suggested that they are only there for the party and to rub shoulders. They certainly aren't doing it for free.
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