| Kaba ‘killing’ 13:45 - Oct 3 with 7555 views | KeithHaynes |
I see it’s now being referred to as a ‘killing’ despite the driver trying to kill officers after being pursued for two miles. He continued to ram police cars after being stopped. That is a deadly action in law. One officer shot him once as he feared for his and his own and colleagues safety.
What would you do ?
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| Kaba ‘killing’ on 17:28 - Oct 22 with 969 views | max936 |
| Kaba ‘killing’ on 19:41 - Oct 21 by Luther27 |
They do indeed. That’s why when it was announced this case would be going to court an awful lot of these officers refused to take part in firearm duties. |
I don't blame them, they got a very short time to make a decision and then after they make that call they are suspended and end up in court absolutely ridiculous in this case at least.
Its quite similar to Soldiers getting charged with murder after battlefield incidents, again ridiculous in most cases. [Post edited 22 Oct 17:29]
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| Kaba ‘killing’ on 17:38 - Oct 22 with 954 views | Flashberryjack |
| Kaba ‘killing’ on 17:28 - Oct 22 by max936 |
I don't blame them, they got a very short time to make a decision and then after they make that call they are suspended and end up in court absolutely ridiculous in this case at least.
Its quite similar to Soldiers getting charged with murder after battlefield incidents, again ridiculous in most cases. [Post edited 22 Oct 17:29]
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I just hope that our team doesn't start "taking the knee again" for this drug dealing thug. |  |
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| Kaba ‘killing’ on 19:21 - Oct 22 with 869 views | KeithHaynes |
| Kaba ‘killing’ on 15:11 - Oct 22 by pencoedjack |
So basically, a guy is stopped by the police & decides he will start ramming cars in front & behind him without a care for people around on foot.
A policeman goes on trial for murder even though it is known the guy is a gangster who shot someone in both legs & is awaiting trial for the offense. In addition, the gangster has numerous offenses on his record (many serious) & has served jail time previously.
Would these protesters (BLM types) be out on the street protesting if the police officer had done nothing & had been shot dead?
This country makes me want to puke. |
The family are as equally disgusting in their comments. Proper scum. | |
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| Kaba ‘killing’ on 20:42 - Oct 22 with 833 views | onehunglow |
| Kaba ‘killing’ on 19:21 - Oct 22 by KeithHaynes |
The family are as equally disgusting in their comments. Proper scum. |
It is not justice what they want
They want carte Blanche to do what they want ,which is to supply drugs and protect their area to do what they want . |  |
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| Kaba ‘killing’ on 22:36 - Oct 22 with 778 views | Kilkennyjack |
The job of the police is to arrest.
However if the officer is in fear of his life, or others lives, then using a gun is justified.
The issue is that Kaba was unarmed.
The officer did not see a gun, so the threat to life must have been the vehicle itself.
Police cannot take a life on the basis that he might have a gun.
And of course the police or army cannot be above the law.
Thats a given. |  |
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| Kaba ‘killing’ on 22:47 - Oct 22 with 772 views | Luther27 |
| Kaba ‘killing’ on 22:36 - Oct 22 by Kilkennyjack |
The job of the police is to arrest.
However if the officer is in fear of his life, or others lives, then using a gun is justified.
The issue is that Kaba was unarmed.
The officer did not see a gun, so the threat to life must have been the vehicle itself.
Police cannot take a life on the basis that he might have a gun.
And of course the police or army cannot be above the law.
Thats a given. |
It appears the officer in question who was found not guilty appears to has been suspended from his job even though proved innocent and not only that he now has a £10k bounty on his head payable on his and his family whereabouts.
Is this justice? | | | |
| Kaba ‘killing’ on 22:57 - Oct 22 with 765 views | majorraglan |
| Kaba ‘killing’ on 22:47 - Oct 22 by Luther27 |
It appears the officer in question who was found not guilty appears to has been suspended from his job even though proved innocent and not only that he now has a £10k bounty on his head payable on his and his family whereabouts.
Is this justice? |
He’s been suspended since shortly after the shooting. I don’t know if he’s been reinstated yet, but he’s not out of the woods because the IOPC could still insist that there’s a misconduct hearing and if he’s found guilty of gross misconduct he could be sacked.
I think there’d be an outrage from the police and from the general public if he was to face a misconduct hearing, but there are still people out there who believe he should have been convicted of murder.
It’s not justice and it’s a terrible state of affairs when a police officer has a bounty on his head. [Post edited 22 Oct 22:58]
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| Kaba ‘killing’ on 23:13 - Oct 22 with 757 views | Luther27 |
| Kaba ‘killing’ on 22:57 - Oct 22 by majorraglan |
He’s been suspended since shortly after the shooting. I don’t know if he’s been reinstated yet, but he’s not out of the woods because the IOPC could still insist that there’s a misconduct hearing and if he’s found guilty of gross misconduct he could be sacked.
I think there’d be an outrage from the police and from the general public if he was to face a misconduct hearing, but there are still people out there who believe he should have been convicted of murder.
It’s not justice and it’s a terrible state of affairs when a police officer has a bounty on his head. [Post edited 22 Oct 22:58]
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I struggle to understand how the IOPC are above the rule of common law. I’m not sure where the Met go from here. Armed response officers no doubt will be taking a long hard look at this and wonder is it feasible to carry on volunteering for this duty.
This trial has revealed the officers identity which endangers his family. No officer in his right mind would risk his or hers family being subjugated to any form of violence based on their actions. I know I wouldn’t. | | | |
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| Kaba ‘killing’ on 00:31 - Oct 23 with 743 views | Robbie |
Comparisions with the George Floyd incident will not go unnoticed in certain areas , many of whom are hellbent on taking control of their Postcode area , supply and demand ensues .
Its our streets bro , don"t mess with our crew or else , seems gang warfare is rife now .
As quite rightly mentioned earlier in this debate , anybody up for taking the knee soon .
Ridiculous charade led by Football at the forefront of actions , why football teams , did not hear of any Hospital staff of all nationalities doing that gesture .
In other News our Human Rights Leader is now appalled at prisoners who are realesed early celebrating their freedom on the outside .
You made the call mush so your answer seems to be a re- evaluation on can be let out early now , yep but a bit late now though .
Guns in general , hate them , any loose cannon can get hold of one and do fatal damage .
Glad the Cooper got cleared too . | | | |
| Kaba ‘killing’ on 08:05 - Oct 23 with 707 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Kaba ‘killing’ on 22:36 - Oct 22 by Kilkennyjack |
The job of the police is to arrest.
However if the officer is in fear of his life, or others lives, then using a gun is justified.
The issue is that Kaba was unarmed.
The officer did not see a gun, so the threat to life must have been the vehicle itself.
Police cannot take a life on the basis that he might have a gun.
And of course the police or army cannot be above the law.
Thats a given. |
Did not see any sympathy for Kaba victim an unarmed man posing no threat to anybody. Yet Kaba was happy to gum him down in a crowded nightclub.
The police knew he was a dangerous criminal. From the video seens pretty clear he was trying to injure police officers by driving a 1 ton vehicle at them.
Fortunately a British jury saw the evidence and decided the officers action were justified.
Just glad we have officers trying to protect us from scum like this. | |
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| Kaba ‘killing’ on 08:35 - Oct 23 with 687 views | AnotherJohn |
| Kaba ‘killing’ on 19:21 - Oct 22 by KeithHaynes |
The family are as equally disgusting in their comments. Proper scum. |
It would be surprising if the family did not benefit financially from Kaba's "county lines" drug peddling. And yet there are BLM ideologues more that willing to take to the streets to complain about injustice. | | | |
| Kaba ‘killing’ on 09:15 - Oct 23 with 640 views | onehunglow |
| Kaba ‘killing’ on 22:36 - Oct 22 by Kilkennyjack |
The job of the police is to arrest.
However if the officer is in fear of his life, or others lives, then using a gun is justified.
The issue is that Kaba was unarmed.
The officer did not see a gun, so the threat to life must have been the vehicle itself.
Police cannot take a life on the basis that he might have a gun.
And of course the police or army cannot be above the law.
Thats a given. |
Bottom line,a vicious killer is now dust
She’d not a tear
You’ve not been in the situation that police officer was .
Split second
Doesn’t need to be “ armed” either .
Doesn’t need to be a gun .
A criminal family is a criminal family | |
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| Kaba ‘killing’ on 09:29 - Oct 23 with 640 views | Dr_Winston |
Kaba was driving a £75000 Audi Q8 which didn't belong to him and was using it to try and force his way out of a Police stop, risking serious injury and potentially death (Andrew Harper for example) to officers as a result.
It takes a pretty sick and twisted thought process to come to the conclusion that he was in any way "unarmed". |  |
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| Kaba ‘killing’ on 09:42 - Oct 23 with 638 views | raynor94 |
| Kaba ‘killing’ on 22:36 - Oct 22 by Kilkennyjack |
The job of the police is to arrest.
However if the officer is in fear of his life, or others lives, then using a gun is justified.
The issue is that Kaba was unarmed.
The officer did not see a gun, so the threat to life must have been the vehicle itself.
Police cannot take a life on the basis that he might have a gun.
And of course the police or army cannot be above the law.
Thats a given. |
A career criminal who used a vehicle as a weapon to injure or kill policemen.
Days earlier he had attempted to murder another lowlife, forgive me if I don't shed any tears over the demise of this scum.
And his family are no better, the lengths they went to to prevent the jury from hearing his criminal past.
This was a case that should never have gone to court |  |
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| Kaba ‘killing’ on 09:48 - Oct 23 with 630 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Kaba ‘killing’ on 22:36 - Oct 22 by Kilkennyjack |
The job of the police is to arrest.
However if the officer is in fear of his life, or others lives, then using a gun is justified.
The issue is that Kaba was unarmed.
The officer did not see a gun, so the threat to life must have been the vehicle itself.
Police cannot take a life on the basis that he might have a gun.
And of course the police or army cannot be above the law.
Thats a given. |
He may not have had a gun but he certainly had a weapon - the car and he was trying to use it. |  |
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| Kaba ‘killing’ on 10:27 - Oct 23 with 616 views | AnotherJohn |
A former senior police officer who was interviewed on Radio 5 this morning had to take exception when the BBC interviewer insisted on using the term "alleged gang member". He rightly pointed out that Kaba's membership was rather more than alleged, but she ploughed on regardless. I hate to think my license fee is paying the salaries of these people. [Post edited 23 Oct 10:36]
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| Kaba ‘killing’ on 10:47 - Oct 23 with 591 views | Luther27 |
| Kaba ‘killing’ on 10:27 - Oct 23 by AnotherJohn |
A former senior police officer who was interviewed on Radio 5 this morning had to take exception when the BBC interviewer insisted on using the term "alleged gang member". He rightly pointed out that Kaba's membership was rather more than alleged, but she ploughed on regardless. I hate to think my license fee is paying the salaries of these people. [Post edited 23 Oct 10:36]
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It’s hard to think of a more Marxist vindictive racist organisation than the BBC news dept. | | | |
| Kaba ‘killing’ on 13:14 - Oct 23 with 554 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Kaba ‘killing’ on 22:36 - Oct 22 by Kilkennyjack |
The job of the police is to arrest.
However if the officer is in fear of his life, or others lives, then using a gun is justified.
The issue is that Kaba was unarmed.
The officer did not see a gun, so the threat to life must have been the vehicle itself.
Police cannot take a life on the basis that he might have a gun.
And of course the police or army cannot be above the law.
Thats a given. |
I understand that if I buy a pistol and bullets and mix in dark circles I am at risk of police assassination. I would be scared for my life. It has been an unwritten rule for some time. I accept this policy and accept the risks. I spent many months in Hackney working.
Carry a gun and ordinance and have a violent mindset then you are putting a cross hairs on your forehead.
I recall the Tottenham riots and a guy in Bristol killed at an M4 roundabout.
IT IS THE JOB OF THE POLICE to PROTECT me my friends and family. It was only a matter of time before Kabba killed someone. His recklessness meant it probably be a passer by not another gangster.
The people of colour community should send a thank you card to the Met for taking a wild dangerous son off the streets permanently.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3dvdmzxz82o.amp [Post edited 23 Oct 13:21]
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| Kaba ‘killing’ on 13:36 - Oct 23 with 517 views | union_jack |
| Kaba ‘killing’ on 13:14 - Oct 23 by ReslovenSwan1 |
I understand that if I buy a pistol and bullets and mix in dark circles I am at risk of police assassination. I would be scared for my life. It has been an unwritten rule for some time. I accept this policy and accept the risks. I spent many months in Hackney working.
Carry a gun and ordinance and have a violent mindset then you are putting a cross hairs on your forehead.
I recall the Tottenham riots and a guy in Bristol killed at an M4 roundabout.
IT IS THE JOB OF THE POLICE to PROTECT me my friends and family. It was only a matter of time before Kabba killed someone. His recklessness meant it probably be a passer by not another gangster.
The people of colour community should send a thank you card to the Met for taking a wild dangerous son off the streets permanently.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3dvdmzxz82o.amp [Post edited 23 Oct 13:21]
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It ‘irks’ me that the black community (not all I’m sure) say that this has been an injustice and are looking like it’s a white or an authority on black.
If this guy was white I’d be dancing from the rooftops in exactly the same way. An oxygen thief whose demise is good for just about everyone.
And anyone supporting the injustice angle should look at themselves in embarrassment. If they are on here doing the same I’d see it as bringing the site into disrepute and should be dealt with accordingly. |  |
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| Kaba ‘killing’ on 14:09 - Oct 23 with 492 views | AnotherJohn |
Just watching the debate following Yvette Cooper's statement to the HoC. Diane Abbot has just stood up and started off by saying that her sympathy is with the mother. Her question (one or two words may be wrong) was: "Does the House realise that nothing would be more damaging to community relations than if the idea took hold that the police are above the law?" Guess we knew the nature of the beast already. Cooper responds that it is important to recognise the importance of community relations and engage the Black Community.
Bell Ribeiro-Addy follows up by asking whether the Home Secretary is concerned by the Police Commissioner's comments about the need to protect police officers. She expresses concern about the feelings of the "Black community"'. Next up is Florence Eshalomi who talks about "the pain in the eyes" of the parents. She says that given the history of institutional racism can the Home Secretary confirm that she will continue holding the Metropolitan Police to account. Then Kim Johnson chips in asking if the Home Secretary can assure the House that extra protections will not be given to the police. She says that the publicity about Chris Kaba amounts to "racist tropes".
Not sure I can watch much more. [Post edited 23 Oct 14:31]
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| Kaba ‘killing’ on 14:26 - Oct 23 with 476 views | AnotherJohn |
In the HoC debate Richard Tice drops a bombshell by suggesting that the comment the jury asked permission to read out with the judgment (for which the judge denied permission) expressed concern that the IOPC and the CPS had proceeded with the prosecution. This seems like big news, but Tice's claim is ignored by Cooper and the next couple of speakers.
Edit. The Daily Mail ran a story about the jury's note this afternoon, but still haven't connected this to Tice's claim in the HoC.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13992437/Chris-Kaba-jury-public-stateme [Post edited 23 Oct 16:56]
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| Kaba ‘killing’ on 15:07 - Oct 23 with 448 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Kaba ‘killing’ on 14:09 - Oct 23 by AnotherJohn |
Just watching the debate following Yvette Cooper's statement to the HoC. Diane Abbot has just stood up and started off by saying that her sympathy is with the mother. Her question (one or two words may be wrong) was: "Does the House realise that nothing would be more damaging to community relations than if the idea took hold that the police are above the law?" Guess we knew the nature of the beast already. Cooper responds that it is important to recognise the importance of community relations and engage the Black Community.
Bell Ribeiro-Addy follows up by asking whether the Home Secretary is concerned by the Police Commissioner's comments about the need to protect police officers. She expresses concern about the feelings of the "Black community"'. Next up is Florence Eshalomi who talks about "the pain in the eyes" of the parents. She says that given the history of institutional racism can the Home Secretary confirm that she will continue holding the Metropolitan Police to account. Then Kim Johnson chips in asking if the Home Secretary can assure the House that extra protections will not be given to the police. She says that the publicity about Chris Kaba amounts to "racist tropes".
Not sure I can watch much more. [Post edited 23 Oct 14:31]
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| Kaba ‘killing’ on 15:27 - Oct 23 with 433 views | Luther27 |
| Kaba ‘killing’ on 14:09 - Oct 23 by AnotherJohn |
Just watching the debate following Yvette Cooper's statement to the HoC. Diane Abbot has just stood up and started off by saying that her sympathy is with the mother. Her question (one or two words may be wrong) was: "Does the House realise that nothing would be more damaging to community relations than if the idea took hold that the police are above the law?" Guess we knew the nature of the beast already. Cooper responds that it is important to recognise the importance of community relations and engage the Black Community.
Bell Ribeiro-Addy follows up by asking whether the Home Secretary is concerned by the Police Commissioner's comments about the need to protect police officers. She expresses concern about the feelings of the "Black community"'. Next up is Florence Eshalomi who talks about "the pain in the eyes" of the parents. She says that given the history of institutional racism can the Home Secretary confirm that she will continue holding the Metropolitan Police to account. Then Kim Johnson chips in asking if the Home Secretary can assure the House that extra protections will not be given to the police. She says that the publicity about Chris Kaba amounts to "racist tropes".
Not sure I can watch much more. [Post edited 23 Oct 14:31]
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There’s no one more racist than Abbot. I think London and the commons needs to be very very careful here regarding the constant vilification of not only the Mets but every police force around the country trying to uphold the rule of law and that area has a sizeable proportion of non white citizens. | | | |
| Kaba ‘killing’ on 16:01 - Oct 23 with 414 views | pencoedjack |
| Kaba ‘killing’ on 15:27 - Oct 23 by Luther27 |
There’s no one more racist than Abbot. I think London and the commons needs to be very very careful here regarding the constant vilification of not only the Mets but every police force around the country trying to uphold the rule of law and that area has a sizeable proportion of non white citizens. |
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