| Most reliable information.Covid-19 23:34 - May 20 with 20095 views | RonaldStump |
So who is providing the most reliable information?
The so called 'Conspiracy Theorists' or the Government (Sage) and their modelling.
Since March 2020 there clearly only one winner here.
Congratulations the so called 'Consiracy Theorists'
Prove me wrong. |  |
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| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 19:25 - Jun 29 with 1012 views | Scotia |
It's not hit out pieces by the establishment. It's calling him out for a lier, because that is what he is.
He did not invent mRNA vaccines. He claims he did. Have you found anything to prove this self assertion?
I'd suggest you take a look at that website too. It applies to both of them.
Another couple of cranks you've been taken in by. [Post edited 29 Jun 2021 19:34]
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| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 19:54 - Jun 29 with 994 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 19:16 - Jun 29 by Professor |
No. But are very common after SARS CoV2 infection. |
Maybe it because nobody in authority is listening to them or acting on the data.
As Malone says you are all aflicted with group think.
You still haven't really acknowledged that any other Vaccine in history would have been pulled long ago based on all the adverse events being reported.
Do I care whether you and scotia believe thousands of doctors and scientists are wrong about just about everything.
Nope, I am just putting the opposing side's opinion because you won't. | | | |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 19:58 - Jun 29 with 991 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 19:25 - Jun 29 by Scotia |
It's not hit out pieces by the establishment. It's calling him out for a lier, because that is what he is.
He did not invent mRNA vaccines. He claims he did. Have you found anything to prove this self assertion?
I'd suggest you take a look at that website too. It applies to both of them.
Another couple of cranks you've been taken in by. [Post edited 29 Jun 2021 19:34]
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Yes I know everybody but the establishment are cranks and liars.
Character assasination is your stock in trade because you don't have anyhting else.
It doesn't matter how illustrious their careers have been you band them all together as loonies.
Do I care?
Nope, you carry on doing the establishment's work for them of shutting down every dissenting voice. | | | |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 20:05 - Jun 29 with 990 views | Scotia |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 19:58 - Jun 29 by A_Fans_Dad |
Yes I know everybody but the establishment are cranks and liars.
Character assasination is your stock in trade because you don't have anyhting else.
It doesn't matter how illustrious their careers have been you band them all together as loonies.
Do I care?
Nope, you carry on doing the establishment's work for them of shutting down every dissenting voice. |
You said he invented mRNA vaccines. He didn't.
Prove he did.
I think he's a lier.
Prove he isn't.
I'm not interested in a list of his published work on Google scholar or a kiwi conspiracy site that just reiterates his claim with no supporting evidence. | | | |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 20:38 - Jun 29 with 982 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 20:05 - Jun 29 by Scotia |
You said he invented mRNA vaccines. He didn't.
Prove he did.
I think he's a lier.
Prove he isn't.
I'm not interested in a list of his published work on Google scholar or a kiwi conspiracy site that just reiterates his claim with no supporting evidence. |
I am not going to chase it down, because I have better things to with my time like watching real doctors who save real lives telling me the truth.
So here is another one for you to character assassinate.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/rvccR4Tg6fRS/
Watch it and learn how wrong you are. | | | |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 20:45 - Jun 29 with 979 views | Scotia |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 20:38 - Jun 29 by A_Fans_Dad |
I am not going to chase it down, because I have better things to with my time like watching real doctors who save real lives telling me the truth.
So here is another one for you to character assassinate.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/rvccR4Tg6fRS/
Watch it and learn how wrong you are. |
Your not going to chase it down because you can't. He's a lier who you believed without question.
Another addition to the long list of charlatans and cranks you blindly follow.
Open your eyes and question what they say. These people may kill you. They've already killed others.
Neither of us will be around to see that the climate change conspirators are full of as much crap as Dr Robert Malone and Brindle Byram. | | | |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 21:14 - Jun 29 with 966 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 20:45 - Jun 29 by Scotia |
Your not going to chase it down because you can't. He's a lier who you believed without question.
Another addition to the long list of charlatans and cranks you blindly follow.
Open your eyes and question what they say. These people may kill you. They've already killed others.
Neither of us will be around to see that the climate change conspirators are full of as much crap as Dr Robert Malone and Brindle Byram. |
Watch the video and learn something, or are you scared to face the truth and realise that you have been wrong all along. | | | |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 21:46 - Jun 29 with 957 views | Scotia |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 21:14 - Jun 29 by A_Fans_Dad |
Watch the video and learn something, or are you scared to face the truth and realise that you have been wrong all along. |
So managed to find any proof Dr Robert Malone invented mRNA vaccines yet? Or are you going to admit you didn't even question his claim.
Exactly what truth am I supposed to face? There maybe a steroid that works slightly better than dexamethosone? That an anticoagulant prevents blood clots?
Well done for finding out about him before the establishment MSM.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-53576427
That's been on the BBC website for nearly a year.
No ivermectin. No HCQ. No colchicine.
If he is right does it mean that the pandemic is over?
Does it mean that vaccines aren't needed?
No. It means more people survive hospitalisation. That's good, if it's true, but that's it.
Just a few days ago you said people didn't die of covid, but died with covid. They were killed by underlying health conditions apparently. You're either a breathing contradiction or Dr Varon is wasting his time in your opinion?
We still need to prevent infection, we still need lockdown, we're still at square one without vaccines.
I honestly think I've had it with you. You just mine every bit of obvious BS on the net and don't even question it.
Go to the pub, listen to some music, go for a sunset walk, just stay away from the Internet. But get a vaccine first. [Post edited 29 Jun 2021 21:58]
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| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 22:36 - Jun 29 with 942 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 21:46 - Jun 29 by Scotia |
So managed to find any proof Dr Robert Malone invented mRNA vaccines yet? Or are you going to admit you didn't even question his claim.
Exactly what truth am I supposed to face? There maybe a steroid that works slightly better than dexamethosone? That an anticoagulant prevents blood clots?
Well done for finding out about him before the establishment MSM.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-53576427
That's been on the BBC website for nearly a year.
No ivermectin. No HCQ. No colchicine.
If he is right does it mean that the pandemic is over?
Does it mean that vaccines aren't needed?
No. It means more people survive hospitalisation. That's good, if it's true, but that's it.
Just a few days ago you said people didn't die of covid, but died with covid. They were killed by underlying health conditions apparently. You're either a breathing contradiction or Dr Varon is wasting his time in your opinion?
We still need to prevent infection, we still need lockdown, we're still at square one without vaccines.
I honestly think I've had it with you. You just mine every bit of obvious BS on the net and don't even question it.
Go to the pub, listen to some music, go for a sunset walk, just stay away from the Internet. But get a vaccine first. [Post edited 29 Jun 2021 21:58]
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So, you didn't watch it right through then.
Because it wasn't just about the success, which was brilliant, but about the suppression in the USA.
OK.
The BBC link the doctor that gave his patients a 95% chance of recovery was when he was using HCQ.
You say HCQ doesn't work, he proves it and Ivermectin do.
What is wrong can't you face being wrong?
Seeing as you raised it, not me, try Portugal 150 died of COVID 17,000 didn't but were registered as having done so by the Government.
Thye are calling it outright fraud uncovered by a petitiion to their courts.
https://andre-dias.net/152-mortes-de-covid-em-portugal-desde-janeiro-2020/
Use Google translate. [Post edited 29 Jun 2021 23:26]
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| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 23:30 - Jun 29 with 929 views | DJack |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 20:38 - Jun 29 by A_Fans_Dad |
I am not going to chase it down, because I have better things to with my time like watching real doctors who save real lives telling me the truth.
So here is another one for you to character assassinate.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/rvccR4Tg6fRS/
Watch it and learn how wrong you are. |
Putting aside your whataboutery to deflect from answering Scotia's question, anyone who references bitchute has already lost the argument. |  |
| It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan |
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| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 06:08 - Jun 30 with 898 views | Scotia |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 22:36 - Jun 29 by A_Fans_Dad |
So, you didn't watch it right through then.
Because it wasn't just about the success, which was brilliant, but about the suppression in the USA.
OK.
The BBC link the doctor that gave his patients a 95% chance of recovery was when he was using HCQ.
You say HCQ doesn't work, he proves it and Ivermectin do.
What is wrong can't you face being wrong?
Seeing as you raised it, not me, try Portugal 150 died of COVID 17,000 didn't but were registered as having done so by the Government.
Thye are calling it outright fraud uncovered by a petitiion to their courts.
https://andre-dias.net/152-mortes-de-covid-em-portugal-desde-janeiro-2020/
Use Google translate. [Post edited 29 Jun 2021 23:26]
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I don't care about suppression in the USA I'm not a conspiracy theory believing nut case.
It has been on the national broadcaster of this country for a year but surpressed in the states? You need to try harder, that's clearly nonsense.
His 95% survival rate could be down to a huge amount of variables. HCQ isn't mentioned. If he's had such success with ivermectin, why has he worked over 400 days in a row?
He seems to have avoided mechanical ventilation, used steriods and an anticoagulant early in the pandemic. That is now standard.
This is nothing like a clinical trial but one man's anecdotal evidence.
What is the background of his patients? US hospitals treat who can afford to be treated in many cases.
Does anything he has done mitigate the need for vaccines?
How do his survival rates stack up now?
Does anything he has done end the pandemic?
Oh, and anything on who invented mRNA vaccines yet?
Edit. I just checked. Similar info is available on sky news and in the telegraph. Are these sources blocked in the states? Just more paranoid BS.
The article on sky is interesting because it mentions the younger age patients in his hospital and the use of additional treatment methods.
I also just looked into his HCQ use, he did use it but as part of his MATH+ regimen and was never convinced it worked on it's own. He also used a vibrating jacket to keep the lungs clear - have you bought one?
He seems like an extremely hard working medic, who works equally as hard at self promotion. [Post edited 30 Jun 2021 9:24]
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| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 06:11 - Jun 30 with 896 views | Scotia |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 23:30 - Jun 29 by DJack |
Putting aside your whataboutery to deflect from answering Scotia's question, anyone who references bitchute has already lost the argument. |
I had no idea what bitchute was until I googled it.
It explains a lot. | | | |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 10:47 - Jun 30 with 855 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 06:08 - Jun 30 by Scotia |
I don't care about suppression in the USA I'm not a conspiracy theory believing nut case.
It has been on the national broadcaster of this country for a year but surpressed in the states? You need to try harder, that's clearly nonsense.
His 95% survival rate could be down to a huge amount of variables. HCQ isn't mentioned. If he's had such success with ivermectin, why has he worked over 400 days in a row?
He seems to have avoided mechanical ventilation, used steriods and an anticoagulant early in the pandemic. That is now standard.
This is nothing like a clinical trial but one man's anecdotal evidence.
What is the background of his patients? US hospitals treat who can afford to be treated in many cases.
Does anything he has done mitigate the need for vaccines?
How do his survival rates stack up now?
Does anything he has done end the pandemic?
Oh, and anything on who invented mRNA vaccines yet?
Edit. I just checked. Similar info is available on sky news and in the telegraph. Are these sources blocked in the states? Just more paranoid BS.
The article on sky is interesting because it mentions the younger age patients in his hospital and the use of additional treatment methods.
I also just looked into his HCQ use, he did use it but as part of his MATH+ regimen and was never convinced it worked on it's own. He also used a vibrating jacket to keep the lungs clear - have you bought one?
He seems like an extremely hard working medic, who works equally as hard at self promotion. [Post edited 30 Jun 2021 9:24]
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Where does any of them mention that he used HCQ and is now using Iveremectin.
The young lady that made that video gave up her job with Fox News because they would not allow her to report on either HCQ or Ivermectin
That is is what you call the courage of your convictions, is there anything in the world that you feel strongly enough about to give up your cushy job for?
If you watched the video, which is on Bitchute because they get taken down on Youtube you would see that he has had over 1000 interviews and evry single one until now has either not asked or deleted what his treatment protocol is.
You question the fact that he has saved over 1000 lives of hospitalised patients with either HCQ or Ivermectin as the main part of his protocol and just can't bring yourself to admit that they work.
Even the patients who got transferred to his hospital because they were dying from lack of treatment say it works, but not you, you and prof know much bettere than 1000s of front line doctors all over the world.
Even patients and their families that have to take their hospitals to court te get them as treatment say it they work.
OK, you will never admit to being wrong, you will always find weasel words to ignore the data, regardless of who it comes from or how much of it there is.
But anyone who is actually willing to learn the truth can see it for themselves. | | | |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 10:48 - Jun 30 with 853 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 06:11 - Jun 30 by Scotia |
I had no idea what bitchute was until I googled it.
It explains a lot. |
It explains nothing, it just reinforces your total prejudice regarding links to actual source data. | | | |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 10:52 - Jun 30 with 850 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 06:08 - Jun 30 by Scotia |
I don't care about suppression in the USA I'm not a conspiracy theory believing nut case.
It has been on the national broadcaster of this country for a year but surpressed in the states? You need to try harder, that's clearly nonsense.
His 95% survival rate could be down to a huge amount of variables. HCQ isn't mentioned. If he's had such success with ivermectin, why has he worked over 400 days in a row?
He seems to have avoided mechanical ventilation, used steriods and an anticoagulant early in the pandemic. That is now standard.
This is nothing like a clinical trial but one man's anecdotal evidence.
What is the background of his patients? US hospitals treat who can afford to be treated in many cases.
Does anything he has done mitigate the need for vaccines?
How do his survival rates stack up now?
Does anything he has done end the pandemic?
Oh, and anything on who invented mRNA vaccines yet?
Edit. I just checked. Similar info is available on sky news and in the telegraph. Are these sources blocked in the states? Just more paranoid BS.
The article on sky is interesting because it mentions the younger age patients in his hospital and the use of additional treatment methods.
I also just looked into his HCQ use, he did use it but as part of his MATH+ regimen and was never convinced it worked on it's own. He also used a vibrating jacket to keep the lungs clear - have you bought one?
He seems like an extremely hard working medic, who works equally as hard at self promotion. [Post edited 30 Jun 2021 9:24]
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When did I ever say HCQ should be used on it's own?
Why don't you tell everybody what the MATH+ protocol he uses consists of?
He lays it out clearly in the video, so if you watched it you wouldn't have needed to google it.
I will repeat it 95% effective.
How many live worldwide would that have saved and still could save? | | | |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 11:54 - Jun 30 with 838 views | Scotia |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 10:48 - Jun 30 by A_Fans_Dad |
It explains nothing, it just reinforces your total prejudice regarding links to actual source data. |
What source data - like the person who invented mRNA vaccines?
I notice you're avoiding answering. My answer to your MATH+ post is waiting to be posted.
Once you answer the question above, or admit you've believed Dr Malone without question I'll paste it.
Who invented mRNA vaccines? | | | |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 15:22 - Jun 30 with 805 views | A_Fans_Dad |
Here is another doctor to call a liar about Ivermectin
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| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 15:46 - Jun 30 with 794 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 11:54 - Jun 30 by Scotia |
What source data - like the person who invented mRNA vaccines?
I notice you're avoiding answering. My answer to your MATH+ post is waiting to be posted.
Once you answer the question above, or admit you've believed Dr Malone without question I'll paste it.
Who invented mRNA vaccines? |
OK, seeing as you obviously cannot find it for yourself.
Go to the Wike page on RNA development.
Goto the devlopment chart and from there to the references section at the bottom.
You will find DR Malone mentioned as he alongside Jon Wolf from 1989 onwards.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RNA_vaccine
Did he invent it single handedly, no, but then in his video he didn't say that he did, he was part of a team that was working on DNA & RNA development.
What ever his involvement was he knows what he is talking about so why don't you stop with the character assassinations and go and watch the video and learn something, just like the Dr Varon.
And then admit that the medicines actually save lives. | | | |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 15:53 - Jun 30 with 794 views | Scotia |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 11:54 - Jun 30 by Scotia |
What source data - like the person who invented mRNA vaccines?
I notice you're avoiding answering. My answer to your MATH+ post is waiting to be posted.
Once you answer the question above, or admit you've believed Dr Malone without question I'll paste it.
Who invented mRNA vaccines? |
Allegedly a 95% recovery total in one hospital - based on what demographics, covid illness severity and sample size? Please let us know. Without it the survival rate means nothing.
M = Methylprednisolone (A steroid as used elsewhere, it may be better than dexamethasone, it may not)
A = Ascorbic Acid (I had for breakfast in my orange juice)
T = Thiamine (I had for Breakfast too, in my cornflakes)
H = Heparain (anticoagulant as used elsewhere)
+ = A variety of things depending on who knows what including - vitamin D, a statin, melatonin, famotidine, convalescent plasma, fluvoaxamine, cyphrophetadine.
No HCQ in sight. Ivermectin is mentioned in some sources and it was mentioned in the video — more on that later.
The protocol is basically no different to that across the majority of the globe. I don't think his MATH + regimen would save more than a handful of lives.
Of course his hospital is a private facility - his 95% survival claim could be nothing more than an advertisement for his services.
SO — back to Ivermectin. Lets look at the paper published in the journal of intensive care medicine:-
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0885066620973585
Not a single mention of Ivermectin. How odd!
It does state:-
“It is exceedingly unlikely that a “magic bullet” will be found, or even a medicine
which would be effective at multiple stages of the disease”
The paper also briefly mentions HCQ — but only to rule out it’s usefulness.
The guy is playing to his audience, and you accuse me of being prejudice against source data.
It’s like shooting fish in a barrel.
Irrespective of this.
Does this Mitigate the need for vaccines?
Does this end the pandemic?
IS Dr Varon correct to recommend vaccination to his staff? | | | |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 16:06 - Jun 30 with 788 views | Scotia |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 15:46 - Jun 30 by A_Fans_Dad |
OK, seeing as you obviously cannot find it for yourself.
Go to the Wike page on RNA development.
Goto the devlopment chart and from there to the references section at the bottom.
You will find DR Malone mentioned as he alongside Jon Wolf from 1989 onwards.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RNA_vaccine
Did he invent it single handedly, no, but then in his video he didn't say that he did, he was part of a team that was working on DNA & RNA development.
What ever his involvement was he knows what he is talking about so why don't you stop with the character assassinations and go and watch the video and learn something, just like the Dr Varon.
And then admit that the medicines actually save lives. |
Is that all you've got? Seriously? He's mentioned in references in a chart on Wikipedia? And that constitutes him inventing it?
Genuinely unbelievable.
I've looked at the references from the original paper the development chart you refer to.
Here's the link:-
https://www.mdpi.com/1422-0067/21/18/6582
He is mentioned in the references twice, out of 194 entries.
He claims to have invented it. Just look at his own website:-
https://www.rwmalonemd.com/mrna-vaccine-inventor
Take a look at the quote towards the bottom:-
"Skepticism and a never filed patent crushed his hopes and wasted his years. Robert Malone today has the bitterness of those who were right too early..."
The man is a bitter liar seemingly out for revenge.
Another crank to add to the list of your "esteemed" scientists. | | | |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 16:11 - Jun 30 with 784 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 15:53 - Jun 30 by Scotia |
Allegedly a 95% recovery total in one hospital - based on what demographics, covid illness severity and sample size? Please let us know. Without it the survival rate means nothing.
M = Methylprednisolone (A steroid as used elsewhere, it may be better than dexamethasone, it may not)
A = Ascorbic Acid (I had for breakfast in my orange juice)
T = Thiamine (I had for Breakfast too, in my cornflakes)
H = Heparain (anticoagulant as used elsewhere)
+ = A variety of things depending on who knows what including - vitamin D, a statin, melatonin, famotidine, convalescent plasma, fluvoaxamine, cyphrophetadine.
No HCQ in sight. Ivermectin is mentioned in some sources and it was mentioned in the video — more on that later.
The protocol is basically no different to that across the majority of the globe. I don't think his MATH + regimen would save more than a handful of lives.
Of course his hospital is a private facility - his 95% survival claim could be nothing more than an advertisement for his services.
SO — back to Ivermectin. Lets look at the paper published in the journal of intensive care medicine:-
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0885066620973585
Not a single mention of Ivermectin. How odd!
It does state:-
“It is exceedingly unlikely that a “magic bullet” will be found, or even a medicine
which would be effective at multiple stages of the disease”
The paper also briefly mentions HCQ — but only to rule out it’s usefulness.
The guy is playing to his audience, and you accuse me of being prejudice against source data.
It’s like shooting fish in a barrel.
Irrespective of this.
Does this Mitigate the need for vaccines?
Does this end the pandemic?
IS Dr Varon correct to recommend vaccination to his staff? |
Of course he is right to offer vaccination, have I not said get vaccinated if you want to knowing all the information available?
His findings agree with others on HCQ and Ivermectin protocols, which is what I have been explaining since last year.
You will not admit that due to suppression of those facts 100s of thousands of lives have been lost and will continue to be lost, because not everyone can tollerate the Vaccine, there are millions waiting to be vaccinated and even when vaccinated some of them will still get COVID and die.
You cannot accept that the truth is being deliberately suppressed and it is killing people unnecessarily and you and prof are part of that suppression.
You would rather believe that he is a liar and didn't save all those lives, just like all the other 1000s of doctors who have said that the medicines work.
You are a denialist.
ps Note the fluvoaxamine is one of the drugs that I mentioned earlier which you ignored which is supposed to be even better than Ivermectin, but more expensive. Just as Ivermectin is supposed to be better than HCQ.
Oh look Vitamin D is there too. | | | |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 16:14 - Jun 30 with 782 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 23:30 - Jun 29 by DJack |
Putting aside your whataboutery to deflect from answering Scotia's question, anyone who references bitchute has already lost the argument. |
Yes of course it is the validity of the platform, not the source or the data that is important to you.
We already know that about you, which is why you are so far out of touch. | | | |
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