| Mark Field 10:04 - Jun 21 with 31510 views | Ebo |
Absolutely appalling and disgusting.
https://www.theguardian.com/global/video/2019/jun/21/conservative-mp-mark-field-
He is now desperately trying to justify his actions. Bottom line, he knew she was a climate protester, he was angry that she was 'spoiling' his wealthy, privileged meal and he took action wholly expected from a bully boy misogynist. They all try to say sorry after the violence.
Would he have slammed a well built male and grabbed him by the throat? I think not. The man is a coward. If you or I was seen by a police officer doing this we’d be arrested. The same should apply here regardless if you support the protest or not, it does not give him the freedom to physically assault people. |  |
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| Mark Field on 22:41 - Jun 21 with 2166 views | Jack59 |
| Mark Field on 22:15 - Jun 21 by Humpty |
I don't think the Chinese government would take much notice.
Probably be a waste of money and fuel. |
Tanks for that. |  | | |
| Mark Field on 23:50 - Jun 21 with 2101 views | sherpajacob |
It seems from listening to the apologists for Mark Field that they believe the fact that in 2016 a male, right wing, nationalist nutter murdered an unarmed female politician is justification for a male, right wing, nationalist nutter politician to assault an unarmed female. |  |
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| Mark Field on 00:06 - Jun 22 with 2073 views | BrynCartwright |
| Mark Field on 22:02 - Jun 21 by Darran |
Do you follow much politics Bryn? |
Some, but as little as possible as it so fecked up. |  |
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| Mark Field on 00:10 - Jun 22 with 2067 views | majorraglan |
| Mark Field on 21:09 - Jun 21 by Jack59 |
I think you've summed it up pretty well. However, I have to say that most of those I've spoken to today think the actions were justifiable given the history of assaults on politicians, and also the number of stabbings going on in the London area.
Some people have said that women should no longer be perceived as the weaker sex, and that they were happy to see him grab her, and shove her out in the same way as if the threat were from a man.
Anyway, why don't these protesters go to China where they could make a real difference. I'm sure they'd get crowd funded for the trip, I certainly would make a sizable contribution. |
......number of stabbings in London.
This do took place in the Mansion House, this would be the total opposite of the type of places the stabbings are taking place. A lot of the knife crime takes place within the black community in poor and more deprived areas. | | | |
| Mark Field on 01:02 - Jun 22 with 2028 views | Jack59 |
| Mark Field on 00:10 - Jun 22 by majorraglan |
......number of stabbings in London.
This do took place in the Mansion House, this would be the total opposite of the type of places the stabbings are taking place. A lot of the knife crime takes place within the black community in poor and more deprived areas. |
Ok and you think nobody else living in that city gets affected by it, and especially in the Mansion House because it's so secure.
Sorry mate you're not thinking right. You can't take chances anymore, there's too many dangerous nutters out there.
It's just a terrible shame the job was left to him and not dealt with by security professionals. | | | |
| Mark Field on 01:14 - Jun 22 with 2022 views | sioni |
| Mark Field on 21:09 - Jun 21 by Jack59 |
I think you've summed it up pretty well. However, I have to say that most of those I've spoken to today think the actions were justifiable given the history of assaults on politicians, and also the number of stabbings going on in the London area.
Some people have said that women should no longer be perceived as the weaker sex, and that they were happy to see him grab her, and shove her out in the same way as if the threat were from a man.
Anyway, why don't these protesters go to China where they could make a real difference. I'm sure they'd get crowd funded for the trip, I certainly would make a sizable contribution. |
Oh I get it now. Mark Field was just a misunderstood little chappie who was championing the struggle for equal sexual rights. Perhaps he should be encouraged to go to Saudi Arabia where he could make a great difference.
As for what lots of other people you know have been saying I don’ t have the patience to try to understand. | | | |
| Mark Field on 01:30 - Jun 22 with 2011 views | Jack59 |
| Mark Field on 01:14 - Jun 22 by sioni |
Oh I get it now. Mark Field was just a misunderstood little chappie who was championing the struggle for equal sexual rights. Perhaps he should be encouraged to go to Saudi Arabia where he could make a great difference.
As for what lots of other people you know have been saying I don’ t have the patience to try to understand. |
Too much emotion and too little logic. | | | |
| Mark Field on 01:57 - Jun 22 with 2005 views | PozuelosSideys |
The blokes mindset would have been a little bit like this:
"what are they doing here? why havent they been removed?".. as he watches them enter the room and swan about briefly.
His eyes will have been on them, and his temper would have increased by the second. His eyes will have followed that woman around the room. "she is still here, why is she still here? why is she not being removed? where is she going? why is she walking in this direction towards me and the other politicians who have recently been on the end of milshakes etc?"
as soon as she got close he will have snapped and thought "fck it, ive had enough of this, youre not suppose to be here, out you go".
Now im certainly not saying this is right, in fact he shouldnt have laid a finger on her. But she did try to push past him so she was clearly making a beeline for somebody. If this was a bloke, or somebody making a noise o behalf of Tommy Robinson or whatever, the faux outrage would be very different. |  |
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| Mark Field on 01:58 - Jun 22 with 2002 views | Kilkennyjack |
Jail time for Mark ?! |  |
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| Mark Field on 02:58 - Jun 22 with 1982 views | majorraglan |
| Mark Field on 01:02 - Jun 22 by Jack59 |
Ok and you think nobody else living in that city gets affected by it, and especially in the Mansion House because it's so secure.
Sorry mate you're not thinking right. You can't take chances anymore, there's too many dangerous nutters out there.
It's just a terrible shame the job was left to him and not dealt with by security professionals. |
Where did I say that nobody else in the city gets effected by it, lots of families and sections of the community are affected by all sorts of crime including murder, however the people in the Mansion House are the “ elite” and just about as far as you can get from the victims of these terrible knife crimes.
I agree with you that there’s too many dangerous nutters out there, mental health and criminal justice systems are in crisis. Not arguing security should have sorted it but didn’t, it still doesn’t excuse the fact this guy has overstepped the mark. | | | |
| Mark Field on 07:19 - Jun 22 with 1951 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Mark Field on 02:58 - Jun 22 by majorraglan |
Where did I say that nobody else in the city gets effected by it, lots of families and sections of the community are affected by all sorts of crime including murder, however the people in the Mansion House are the “ elite” and just about as far as you can get from the victims of these terrible knife crimes.
I agree with you that there’s too many dangerous nutters out there, mental health and criminal justice systems are in crisis. Not arguing security should have sorted it but didn’t, it still doesn’t excuse the fact this guy has overstepped the mark. |
He’s obviously on a cheeky little wind up isn’t he. Is he trying to say this woman was armed and dangerous? Fair play to you for trying to educate him but you know the saying major, pork and all that? |  |
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| Mark Field on 08:59 - Jun 22 with 1899 views | WarwickHunt |
| Mark Field on 01:57 - Jun 22 by PozuelosSideys |
The blokes mindset would have been a little bit like this:
"what are they doing here? why havent they been removed?".. as he watches them enter the room and swan about briefly.
His eyes will have been on them, and his temper would have increased by the second. His eyes will have followed that woman around the room. "she is still here, why is she still here? why is she not being removed? where is she going? why is she walking in this direction towards me and the other politicians who have recently been on the end of milshakes etc?"
as soon as she got close he will have snapped and thought "fck it, ive had enough of this, youre not suppose to be here, out you go".
Now im certainly not saying this is right, in fact he shouldnt have laid a finger on her. But she did try to push past him so she was clearly making a beeline for somebody. If this was a bloke, or somebody making a noise o behalf of Tommy Robinson or whatever, the faux outrage would be very different. |
He was very brave to confront that female suicide bomber. Those two lumps on her chest were obviously Semtex. |  | | |
| Mark Field on 09:27 - Jun 22 with 1890 views | Uxbridge |
But... But... But... What if everything about the situation had been entirely different. How could he possibly know? |  |
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| Mark Field on 10:10 - Jun 22 with 1868 views | theloneranger |
When actions speak louder than words ...
9th May 2019 ... Mark Field's own words ...
"The UK remains committed to helping women all over the world to feel safe and protected in the work they do, so they can speak freely and be part of the change we all want. My remarks at the Westminster Hall Debate on Women Human Rights Defenders" |  |
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| Mark Field on 11:17 - Jun 22 with 1799 views | controversial_jack |
| Mark Field on 20:38 - Jun 21 by Sirjohnalot |
Self defence can be of yourself or of another, or property.
It’s a two stage test.
1. What was going though your mind at the time, and, at that time, did you believe your actions were reasonable. So, not the next day, looking back on it, at that time, in that secnario.
2. If the court think 1, is satisfied, they then ask, is what you thought at the time, reasonable to an everyday person ?
So whilst you may convince the court that you genuinely believed what you did was reasonable, if it is clear to a reasonable person in the street that it wasn’t you are guilty.
In this case, if the protestor was a 20 stone 6’2 bloke charging towards the stage and you kicked him to the back of the head, it is likely you’d be fine, however, the case here is different.
1. No perceived threat....ok, but she may have had a knife ! 1st question is did she go through security ? What led you to believe you was an imminent threat ?
2. Let’s just say she was an imminent threat, she may have had a knife.
I can possibly get the initial reaction. Push her up against the pillar. Done. Stopped. Threat over.
Why then, feel the need to march her out by grabbing her neck ?
There, if nothing else lies the potential assault.
Unlikely to be charged, but the type of ‘man’ (loose definition) I love to cross examine when I’m prosecuting |
If he thought there was a threat he was allowed to intervene, but one it was established that she wasn't , anything else he did was assault as it goes well beyond self defence. | | | |
| Mark Field on 11:37 - Jun 22 with 1782 views | Jango |
When I was a kid and I was being naughty or mischievous in a public place my mother would grab me and drag me out of the place and maybe even give me a slap across the ass. At no point have I or anyone else thought she was a bad person. If you genuinely think this odious cretin was assaulted then you are a very sad person. | | | |
| Mark Field on 11:44 - Jun 22 with 1772 views | controversial_jack |
| Mark Field on 11:37 - Jun 22 by Jango |
When I was a kid and I was being naughty or mischievous in a public place my mother would grab me and drag me out of the place and maybe even give me a slap across the ass. At no point have I or anyone else thought she was a bad person. If you genuinely think this odious cretin was assaulted then you are a very sad person. |
If you can defend a grown man manhandling a small woman then I think it's you who is the saddo. | | | |
| Mark Field on 11:53 - Jun 22 with 1757 views | Jango |
| Mark Field on 11:44 - Jun 22 by controversial_jack |
If you can defend a grown man manhandling a small woman then I think it's you who is the saddo. |
It’s a person handling a person. She was up to no good and got dealt with. If you think that’s assault then you’ll also agree that any person who’s ever given a child a slap across the bum or dragged them out of a room for being naughty is a complete scumbag. Let’s not pick and choose when it’s ok to man handle. | | | |
| Mark Field on 11:54 - Jun 22 with 1756 views | JackSomething |
| Mark Field on 11:37 - Jun 22 by Jango |
When I was a kid and I was being naughty or mischievous in a public place my mother would grab me and drag me out of the place and maybe even give me a slap across the ass. At no point have I or anyone else thought she was a bad person. If you genuinely think this odious cretin was assaulted then you are a very sad person. |
If Mark Fields is this woman's mum and she was a child, then you may have a point. If she isn't either of those things, you're just continuing to use nonsense to try and defend his actions.
Also, what about her peaceful protest makes her an odious cretin? If she was there demanding Brexit you'd be singing her praises. |  |
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| Mark Field on 11:56 - Jun 22 with 1753 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Mark Field on 11:53 - Jun 22 by Jango |
It’s a person handling a person. She was up to no good and got dealt with. If you think that’s assault then you’ll also agree that any person who’s ever given a child a slap across the bum or dragged them out of a room for being naughty is a complete scumbag. Let’s not pick and choose when it’s ok to man handle. |
Any parent who handled a child in the same way Field dealt with the protester should absolutely be up on an assault charge. |  |
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| Mark Field on 12:15 - Jun 22 with 1730 views | controversial_jack |
| Mark Field on 11:53 - Jun 22 by Jango |
It’s a person handling a person. She was up to no good and got dealt with. If you think that’s assault then you’ll also agree that any person who’s ever given a child a slap across the bum or dragged them out of a room for being naughty is a complete scumbag. Let’s not pick and choose when it’s ok to man handle. |
I never laid a hand on my kids | | | |
| Mark Field on 12:22 - Jun 22 with 1721 views | ladyjack |
Disgraceful by Field who should have the book thrown at him, i'm horrified seeing that video. |  | | |
| Mark Field on 12:40 - Jun 22 with 1708 views | Jack59 |
| Mark Field on 02:58 - Jun 22 by majorraglan |
Where did I say that nobody else in the city gets effected by it, lots of families and sections of the community are affected by all sorts of crime including murder, however the people in the Mansion House are the “ elite” and just about as far as you can get from the victims of these terrible knife crimes.
I agree with you that there’s too many dangerous nutters out there, mental health and criminal justice systems are in crisis. Not arguing security should have sorted it but didn’t, it still doesn’t excuse the fact this guy has overstepped the mark. |
Everyone living in London would be affected by such horrendous and sometimes seemingly random stabbings. I think what you mean to say is that 'the elite' as you describe them, have not directly been involved But, by being ''the elite' they may face threats of aggression on a more regular basis than average working class individuals.
That aggression is never far away, in fact it's often expressed by 'lefties' on this site. | | | |
| Mark Field on 12:45 - Jun 22 with 1695 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Mark Field on 12:40 - Jun 22 by Jack59 |
Everyone living in London would be affected by such horrendous and sometimes seemingly random stabbings. I think what you mean to say is that 'the elite' as you describe them, have not directly been involved But, by being ''the elite' they may face threats of aggression on a more regular basis than average working class individuals.
That aggression is never far away, in fact it's often expressed by 'lefties' on this site. |
The only person showing aggression on that video was Mark Field. | | | |
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