| Reality 17:26 - Aug 22 with 5412 views | stid |
These owners have spent nothing. Top CB needed or its going to be a long season. |  | | |  |
| Reality on 17:45 - Aug 22 with 4157 views | Headmaster |
Reality is we have broken our transfer record by signing Baston. Spending £15 million is not really spending nothing, is it?
I agree though, we need a quality CB and other areas could do with strengthening. In a perfect world, business would have been done early. |  | | |
| Reality on 17:55 - Aug 22 with 4107 views | deanscfc |
We need/needed an overhaul this transfer window. Having Taylor, Rangel, Dyer, Routledge and Britton all in or around the first team 5 years after our first season in the PL tells me that we aren't really going forwards. They've been good servants but some of them shouldn't be playing for us anymore. Losing Williams was also a big blow. Regardless of money, he was going to be hard to replace. Our two new strikers only cover one position. I would want to see another CB, FB and attacking midfielder come in. I was also someone who actually liked shelvey as a player when he could be bothered. We lost a goal threat selling him. | | | |
| Reality on 17:56 - Aug 22 with 4101 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Reality on 17:45 - Aug 22 by Headmaster |
Reality is we have broken our transfer record by signing Baston. Spending £15 million is not really spending nothing, is it?
I agree though, we need a quality CB and other areas could do with strengthening. In a perfect world, business would have been done early. |
The owners have spent nothing in terms of new money, the £15M came form selling our top players.
And there is still about £12M left. [Post edited 22 Aug 2016 17:56]
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| Reality on 18:05 - Aug 22 with 4051 views | Borojack |
| Reality on 17:56 - Aug 22 by A_Fans_Dad |
The owners have spent nothing in terms of new money, the £15M came form selling our top players.
And there is still about £12M left. [Post edited 22 Aug 2016 17:56]
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I make it 15 million plus a reduced wage bill due to the numbers that have left couple that with the 12 million we received for Shelvey and there is plenty available to get a couple of additions in.
But we have been told we are only getting a CB.
All a bit strange. |  |
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| Reality on 18:07 - Aug 22 with 4042 views | Highjack |
| Reality on 17:55 - Aug 22 by deanscfc |
We need/needed an overhaul this transfer window. Having Taylor, Rangel, Dyer, Routledge and Britton all in or around the first team 5 years after our first season in the PL tells me that we aren't really going forwards. They've been good servants but some of them shouldn't be playing for us anymore. Losing Williams was also a big blow. Regardless of money, he was going to be hard to replace. Our two new strikers only cover one position. I would want to see another CB, FB and attacking midfielder come in. I was also someone who actually liked shelvey as a player when he could be bothered. We lost a goal threat selling him. |
Yes a goal threat to both goals. |  |
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| Reality on 18:17 - Aug 22 with 3979 views | MoscowJack |
| Reality on 18:05 - Aug 22 by Borojack |
I make it 15 million plus a reduced wage bill due to the numbers that have left couple that with the 12 million we received for Shelvey and there is plenty available to get a couple of additions in.
But we have been told we are only getting a CB.
All a bit strange. |
Dividends!
Possibly the new owners would like to show a 20m-30m profit this season and pay record levels of dividends to the shareholders (and therefore to their investors).
Being able to show 20m dividends would make a mockery of the 100m valuation put on the club, but we knew that anyway.
The one thing I keep saying to myself is "THEY NEED US IN THE PREMIER LEAGUE TO MAKE ANY MONEY OUT OF US". I hope they can do it....and keep on doing it. | |
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| Reality on 18:22 - Aug 22 with 3943 views | Borojack |
| Reality on 18:17 - Aug 22 by MoscowJack |
Dividends!
Possibly the new owners would like to show a 20m-30m profit this season and pay record levels of dividends to the shareholders (and therefore to their investors).
Being able to show 20m dividends would make a mockery of the 100m valuation put on the club, but we knew that anyway.
The one thing I keep saying to myself is "THEY NEED US IN THE PREMIER LEAGUE TO MAKE ANY MONEY OUT OF US". I hope they can do it....and keep on doing it. |
If we keep reducing the quality then we wont stay in the PL its obvious they are trying to stay up on the cheap.
Hopefully Saturdays performance will give them a reality check not holding my breath though. | |
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| Reality on 18:32 - Aug 22 with 3908 views | stid |
The pitch was quite, no1 out there barking out orders. We need a top CB. | | | |
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| Reality on 18:38 - Aug 22 with 3877 views | sully49 |
Clubs are awash with TV money so where are we spending our share? We have sorted out the academies, it may require a tweak but nothing to warrant a subantial amount.
We can also generate a decent amount by renaming the stadium, sponsoring the different stands and even the match ball if wer'e a bit hard up, by the amount of advertising on display the sales team are doing a great job.
The players wages and bonus will take a huge chunk of money but with everything taken into account we would still show a substantial profit. [Post edited 23 Aug 2016 13:16]
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| Reality on 18:39 - Aug 22 with 3865 views | monmouth |
| Reality on 18:17 - Aug 22 by MoscowJack |
Dividends!
Possibly the new owners would like to show a 20m-30m profit this season and pay record levels of dividends to the shareholders (and therefore to their investors).
Being able to show 20m dividends would make a mockery of the 100m valuation put on the club, but we knew that anyway.
The one thing I keep saying to myself is "THEY NEED US IN THE PREMIER LEAGUE TO MAKE ANY MONEY OUT OF US". I hope they can do it....and keep on doing it. |
That's what every owner would want and need to make any money though, and three aren't going to make it.
They surely won't be paying big dividends while the Trust has 21% entitlement. Maybe the money is going to go on the stadium if they can agree it with the Council? As long as we survive I'm cool with that, as it leaves us debt free with no dilution and an expansion. Can't help but feel there's a sting coming in the debt or equity positions down the line though. Trust's certainly 'all gone quiet over there', which isn't giving me a warm feeling. |  |
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| Reality on 18:41 - Aug 22 with 3854 views | tomdickharry |
Has the transfer window closed then? | | | |
| Reality on 19:04 - Aug 22 with 3794 views | bathgatejack |
| Reality on 18:41 - Aug 22 by tomdickharry |
Has the transfer window closed then? |
The writing is on the wall already | | | |
| Reality on 20:07 - Aug 22 with 3637 views | yescomeon |
They were never going to spend anything because they don't have money. |  |
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| Reality on 20:12 - Aug 22 with 3614 views | Borojack |
| Reality on 20:07 - Aug 22 by yescomeon |
They were never going to spend anything because they don't have money. |
I thought clubs get 100 million for finishing bottom this season off Sky.
And they must have money or where the Fukc did they find 110 million to buy the club under a sqeaky floorboard? | |
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| Reality on 21:38 - Aug 22 with 3473 views | stid |
There are championship teams spending more than us...again. There are Championship teams with a better backline. | | | |
| Reality on 21:58 - Aug 22 with 3417 views | Tummer_from_Texas |
| Reality on 19:04 - Aug 22 by bathgatejack |
The writing is on the wall already |
Not really. We've made it pretty clear that we're looking to make at least one more big purchase before it closes. |  |
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| Reality on 22:04 - Aug 22 with 3387 views | longlostjack |
| Reality on 21:58 - Aug 22 by Tummer_from_Texas |
Not really. We've made it pretty clear that we're looking to make at least one more big purchase before it closes. |
I could be mistaken but I have only read that we will probably only make one more signing, more than likely a CB. Not sure about the "at least" or "big" but I hope you're right. [Post edited 22 Aug 2016 22:05]
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| Reality on 01:28 - Aug 23 with 3225 views | yescomeon |
| Reality on 20:12 - Aug 22 by Borojack |
I thought clubs get 100 million for finishing bottom this season off Sky.
And they must have money or where the Fukc did they find 110 million to buy the club under a sqeaky floorboard? |
Finding the money to buy the club is one thing but bankrolling us is something else completely. I'm guessing they thought they could run the club better, make bigger profits and take bigger dividends. | |
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| Reality on 04:32 - Aug 23 with 3144 views | Tummer_from_Texas |
| Reality on 22:04 - Aug 22 by longlostjack |
I could be mistaken but I have only read that we will probably only make one more signing, more than likely a CB. Not sure about the "at least" or "big" but I hope you're right. [Post edited 22 Aug 2016 22:05]
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Well, we keep getting reports from just about everywhere that we are pursuing more than a CB. No idea what else we will snag if anything, but it appears to be the plan, if even a small fraction of those reports are accurate.
And with the way Fernandez looks so far, I can't imagine our new CB won't be someone expected to be a sure first team guy. So big in that sense.
If I'm wrong, we're probably in deep crap, if Saturday meant anything. | |
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| Reality on 09:40 - Aug 23 with 2959 views | monmouth |
| Reality on 01:28 - Aug 23 by yescomeon |
Finding the money to buy the club is one thing but bankrolling us is something else completely. I'm guessing they thought they could run the club better, make bigger profits and take bigger dividends. |
They got their money from their investors in the syndicate backing their purchase. They will want a return. Not sure about massive dividends though; they won't want to give away 40% of distributions to the other S/H including 21% to strengthen the trust's finances. | |
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| Reality on 11:24 - Aug 23 with 2841 views | yescomeon |
| Reality on 09:40 - Aug 23 by monmouth |
They got their money from their investors in the syndicate backing their purchase. They will want a return. Not sure about massive dividends though; they won't want to give away 40% of distributions to the other S/H including 21% to strengthen the trust's finances. |
Yeah, that's interesting, I hadn't thought of that. How do the investors get their money back? | |
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| Reality on 11:45 - Aug 23 with 2796 views | Joe_bradshaw |
| Reality on 11:24 - Aug 23 by yescomeon |
Yeah, that's interesting, I hadn't thought of that. How do the investors get their money back? |
By selling to some Chinese blokes in a few years for a lot more than they paid? They'll need to keep us up of course.
By paying themselves handsome salaries? Down side - tax on salaries, up side - cut the trust out.
Dividends? Need to make large profits which means a policy of staying up as cheaply as possible. Down side - very high risk strategy and 21% goes to the trust. |  |
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| Reality on 11:50 - Aug 23 with 2776 views | tomdickharry |
The day after the close of the transfer window suitable comment will be the order of the day remembering of course that we have always run,or attempted to run a tight ship in respect of signing players. | | | |
| Reality on 11:58 - Aug 23 with 2749 views | Witneyjack |
It still worries me that such a large number of our fans seem to have forgotten our past and want to spend stupid sums of money on a single player! Let's not put our future at risk again! |  | | |
| Reality on 12:08 - Aug 23 with 2727 views | DafyddHuw |
| Reality on 18:17 - Aug 22 by MoscowJack |
Dividends!
Possibly the new owners would like to show a 20m-30m profit this season and pay record levels of dividends to the shareholders (and therefore to their investors).
Being able to show 20m dividends would make a mockery of the 100m valuation put on the club, but we knew that anyway.
The one thing I keep saying to myself is "THEY NEED US IN THE PREMIER LEAGUE TO MAKE ANY MONEY OUT OF US". I hope they can do it....and keep on doing it. |
"The one thing I keep saying to myself is "THEY NEED US IN THE PREMIER LEAGUE TO MAKE ANY MONEY OUT OF US"."
Didn't work at Villa. |  | | |
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