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So based on Glyn1's "52 / 80 points relegation / promotion" thread [1] I put together some graphs. It wont fill the hole left by the Dav's stats shaped hole on here, but it's something.
This first plot shows the Swans cumulative points against games this season (black line w/ circles). The points per game projection based on the mean points totals for the champions (green), runner-up (blue), last play-off side (red) and last relegated side (magenta) are also given (solid lines). In addition to this the darker shaded areas of the corresponding colours indicated the average deviance from this mean for all champions, runners-up etc. across all Championship / Division 1 seasons going back to 1992/93 (where the current format was adopted). The lighter shaded area is defined by the maximum and minimum points totals for the champions, runners-up etc. going back to 1992/93. Finally the dashed black line is the points per game (p.p.g.) so far projected to the end of the season and the dot-dashed line is the p.p.g. projection based on the last 5 games.
The second image is much simpler, it's just the cumulative points total against games for the season so far (solid black line w/ circles) and the p.p.g. projection based on the whole season (dashed black line) and the last five games (dot-dashed line), along with the cumulative points total against games for past Swansea championship seasons (2008/09 - blue line, 2009/10 - red line, 2011/12 - green line).
The first graph should give us some idea of how we're doing with respect to past promoted / relegated / playoff sides, and the second should give us some idea how we're doing compared to past Swansea championship seasons (you get plots like this in football manager and I always liked them as it quickly tells the story of a season).
So after 9 games (still a bit early to tell how the season will go) the current p.p.g. ratio is not likely to get us a play-off place and would see us have a lower points total than any of our previous championship seasons. That said we've only played a small number of games and we've had a tough run recently.
I'll update these graphs as the games pass and when I get a minute.
We've got off to a strong, steady start, we're very composed at the back and our un-fashionable players are really staking a claim for their positions.
The last 2 away games we should have had 2 points and they are going to be up there among the hardest away games we'll have all season. They're out the way now and we've got some clearer roads ahead - at least on paper.
I think this run of games coming up is where we should really put all the good things we've taken from the first set of games and really put the pedal to the metal and get at teams high up the pitch - especially our home games.
Dyer and Routs are off the mark and have some much needed minutes under their belt and at home against the weaker teams they could really hurt them. Hopefully we'll see some calm in the ranks in terms of injuries and a run of games with an XI that we can start to describe as our best one.
I think we can go 442 or 4411 in this league, especially at home
And this is being really harsh on Naughton not picking him but on the other hand would make our bench really strong and with great options. No doubt Potter would rotate our forward 4 or 5 and this will bring great versatility. Every one can do a job for us on their day. I'm hoping there's some good days ahead.
Throw Bony into the mix and I think we're well on our way to a promotion challenging squad, especially if Potter identifies some targets in January and we get them. (let's not hijack debate with that one comment though, eh!?)
Bench/Squad:
Nordvelt
Declan John
Carter-Vickers
Naughton
Fulton
Carroll
Byers
Asoro
Mckay
Yan Dhanda
Dan James
If most are honest i'm sure you'll agree our squad is a pretty good one all in all and going in the right direction. There's a lot to like with the players listed above.
Interesting night of Europa league football for the Welsh sides in the competition.
Bangor lost 1-0 away to Lyngby (Den), decent result that, very much game on in the home leg.
Bala lost 2-1 at home to Vaduz (SWI), will be tough for them to get back into that tie I think.
Last night TNS lost to Europa (GIB), really disappointing result for them that one. Don't see a way back into it for them in Gibraltar. Quigley did score one hell of a goal mind
Biggest result has to be Connah's Quay beating Helsinki 1-0 at home. A lot to do to hold on to the advantage in the away leg but a truly magnificent result for them.
Anyone know where I can do this, used to be able to on wiziwig. On the train so missing the game (I'm following the game on BBC and the matchday thread but the masochist in me wants to watch it)?
Seen a few music threads on here so thought I'd go for it. Been listening to loads of music the last few months kicked off by being asked what my top 20 albums of all time are. I thought a more interesting list of albums is albums that define a point in time of your life. Top 20 can be impersonal as I think people tend to pick albums to make themselves look cool. Anyway, warts and all mine would be something like:
Lou Reed - Transformer Ian Dury - Do it Yourself (deluxe edition)
First 2 are from the car with my old man, if I was including compilations it would probably be different.
Blink 182 - Take of Your Pants and Jacket Papa Roach - Infest Linkin Park - Hybrid Theory
Standard albums from my early teenage years a cringy time looking back but very nostalgic listening to them now.
Muse - Origin of Symetry
Really important album, around the time I started playing guitar, if you were in a band you wanted to play songs from this album.
The 2 most important albums from the 2 most important artists from my delving into classic rock, influenced by the guitar.
The Darkness - Permission to Land The Datsuns - The Datsuns Wolfmother - Wolfmother Jet - Get Born
Current (at the time) albums that got a lot of play time. These 4 and the 2 above I would play along on the guitar start to finish at least once a week back in the day. The Darkness one is embarrassing looking back but fun to play on the guitar and a funny album.
Death From Above 1979 - You're a Woman I'm a Machine
Beast of an album, pretty much the reason I re-stringed my brothers old bass right handed.
Arctitc Monkeys - Whatever People Say I am Thats What I'm not
Perfect album at the perfect time for me, completely related to the songs like nothing I'd listened to before, think I'm pretty much the same age as Alex Turner.
Louis XIV - The Best Little Secrets are Kept (UK version)
No idea how this band weren't better known, this is easily one of my favorite albums ever, and it felt like my own personal album as I never met anyone else who knew it unless I showed it to them.
Audio Bullies - Ego War
Awesome album, really takes me back to a specific period, different to everything so far, it was a time when I was discovering electronic music. A mate from that time would listen to these guys almost exclusively for a time. Defo a big album from back in the day.
Justice - Cross Digitalism - Idealism
In the same vein as above but by 2007 I was in full electronic music mode and the guitar was gathering dust. Cross was for me was what I assume Daft Punk - Discovery was for the generation before. That and idealism were the albums on in the car on the way to parties.
Miami Horror - Illumination Cut Copy - In Ghost Colours
Blank space for albums for uni as I was pretty much just listening to singles/eps I would find on blogs. The two above are albums from that time that were usually on in the car on the drive back from Swansea to Pembs.
That's it, in a more or less chronological order. Disclaimer: that's defo not my list of 20 best albums or anything, probably only Lou Reed, Muse, Led Zepplin, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Wolfmother, Arctitc Monkeys, Justice would be in that conversation.
Be interested to see others lists. On a real hunt for music at the moment.
Got the bug after the Euro's, actually watched TNS's first qualifying round second leg game against Tre Penne of San Marino, gave them a bit of a pasting, as you would hope the would, 3-0 on the night, 5-1 on aggregate. They play APOEL Nicosia, in the second round, a week Tuesday, some football to watch between the Euros and the Premier League season.
In the Europa league Bala lost 4-0 on aggregate to AIK Stockholm, Llandudno lost 7-1 on aggregate to IFK Goteborg in the debut Europa league "campaign", and Connah's Quay managed a 1-0 aggregate win over Stabeak of Norway. They will face Serbian side FK Vojvodina in the second round on Thursday.
I'm actually looking forward to seeing the TNS game, they seem to have been walking all over the Welsh league since they've gone pro and will be interesting to see them against some (no disrespect) better competition in APOEL who have qualified for the champions league group stages a few times and got to the quarter finals a few years ago.
By no means an England fan but their squad is out today and as they have a bit more depth to the squad than Wales, and we all know the players thought it would be interesting to see what first 11 people would pick. (Wales first 11 pretty much picks itself imo).
Goalkeepers: Joe Hart (Manchester City), Fraser Forster (Southampton), Tom Heaton (Burnley).
Defenders: Gary Cahill (Chelsea), Chris Smalling (Manchester United), John Stones (Everton), Kyle Walker (Tottenham Hotspur), Ryan Bertrand (Southampton), Danny Rose (Tottenham Hotspur), Nathaniel Clyne (Liverpool).
Midfielders: Dele Alli (Tottenham Hotspur), Ross Barkley (Everton), Fabian Delph (Manchester City), Eric Dier (Tottenham Hotspur), Danny Drinkwater (Leicester City), Jordan Henderson (Liverpool), Adam Lallana (Liverpool), James Milner (Liverpool), Raheem Sterling (Manchester City), Andros Townsend (Newcastle United), Jack Wilshere (Arsenal).
Strikers: Wayne Rooney (Manchester United), Harry Kane (Tottenham Hotspur), Jamie Vardy (Leicester City), Daniel Sturridge (Liverpool), Marcus Rashford (Manchester United).
I'm going for a 433, never watch England so no idea if this team would work:
After a bit of info. Me and the missus will be staying in Swansea over night in a hotel in the city centre. Wheres the cheapest place to park the car over night? If we were yo leave it in the big tescos car park what's the chances of getting clamped?
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