| Boris backtracking 07:20 - Jun 27 with 12922 views | sherpajacob |
Is this what leavers voted for?
"EU citizens living in this country will have their rights fully protected, and the same goes for British citizens living in the EU.
"British people will still be able to go and work in the EU; to live; to travel; to study; to buy homes and to settle down. As the German equivalent of the CBI - the BDI - has very sensibly reminded us, there will continue to be free trade, and access to the single market.
"The only change - and it will not come in any great rush - is that the UK will extricate itself from the EU's extraordinary and opaque system of legislation: the vast and growing corpus of law enacted by a European Court of Justice from which there can be no appeal." |  |
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| Boris backtracking on 15:21 - Jun 27 with 1524 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Boris backtracking on 15:19 - Jun 27 by Lohengrin |
Pigs can't fly. |
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| Boris backtracking on 15:43 - Jun 27 with 1491 views | Lohengrin |
Don't remember the poster that caused all the fuss, love?
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| Boris backtracking on 15:47 - Jun 27 with 1484 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Boris backtracking on 15:43 - Jun 27 by Lohengrin |
Don't remember the poster that caused all the fuss, love?
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Ah no - I didn't remember it.
I can't believe anyone would put Letwin in charge of negotiating the purchase of apples from the market, but there we go.
He's undoubtedly a 'brain' but has the social conscience of an alleycat. | | | |
| Boris backtracking on 15:55 - Jun 27 with 1461 views | Uxbridge |
| Boris backtracking on 14:56 - Jun 27 by Groo |
"And the same goes for British citizens living in the EU.
"British people will still be able to go and work in the EU;
We can't have this bit though can we?.
If Britain can negotiate that why not, that would be the aim as far as I am concerned.
Prior to joining, European people worked and lived in other European Countries including British, European Countries currently outside the EU also have the same opportunity now, people outside Europe have the opportunity to work in Europe.
The only question is what can be negotiated and for that we need someone strong to do the negotiation.
The bonus would be that Britain can remove someone who is not contributing. The same goes for the EU countries, if someone is taking and not contributing Britain should have the ability to remove that person. |
Well, it may make you thick 
I don't get the whole "immigrants coming over here and bleeding the state dry" argument. Study after study shows that , AFAIK, every single group of foreign nationals that come to the UK contribute positively to the economy. The myth that there are armies of people coming over here just to seek benefits is just that. Clearly this was the decisive argument (well, that and Muslims) in the referendum, and it is to the eternal shame of the Remain camp that they failed to make the Positive case for the free trade and freedom of movement within the EU. |  |
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| Boris backtracking on 15:57 - Jun 27 with 1453 views | Lohengrin |
| Boris backtracking on 15:47 - Jun 27 by londonlisa2001 |
Ah no - I didn't remember it.
I can't believe anyone would put Letwin in charge of negotiating the purchase of apples from the market, but there we go.
He's undoubtedly a 'brain' but has the social conscience of an alleycat. |
To be honest he has flown so low under the radar in recent years you could forgive most of us for supposing he'd moved on from politics to pastures new.
We're in an awful, awful mess. | |
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| Boris backtracking on 16:06 - Jun 27 with 1426 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Boris backtracking on 15:57 - Jun 27 by Lohengrin |
To be honest he has flown so low under the radar in recent years you could forgive most of us for supposing he'd moved on from politics to pastures new.
We're in an awful, awful mess. |
He does a lot of the strategy work for the Conservative party behind the scenes. Most of the extreme right wing policies that are hated and withdrawn are Letwin.
Doesn't believe in the NHS, utter belief in the free market, no social conscience, my suggestion over the past weeks that we are about to lurch to the right was potentially understated.
Still, at least those gits at the Polish Cultural Centre round the corner from me got what was coming to them eh? | | | |
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| Boris backtracking on 16:09 - Jun 27 with 1414 views | LeonisGod |
| Boris backtracking on 14:56 - Jun 27 by Groo |
"And the same goes for British citizens living in the EU.
"British people will still be able to go and work in the EU;
We can't have this bit though can we?.
If Britain can negotiate that why not, that would be the aim as far as I am concerned.
Prior to joining, European people worked and lived in other European Countries including British, European Countries currently outside the EU also have the same opportunity now, people outside Europe have the opportunity to work in Europe.
The only question is what can be negotiated and for that we need someone strong to do the negotiation.
The bonus would be that Britain can remove someone who is not contributing. The same goes for the EU countries, if someone is taking and not contributing Britain should have the ability to remove that person. |
There's a big difference between movement of people within the EU/Schengen area and from outside. What happened before we joined is largely irrelevant as the political landscape has changed so much. Non-EU citizens have a right faff working here - expensive, restrictive visas, strict rules on whether and how family can join, etc. There's been quite a shift in policy under this government that is splitting families and making it more difficult, restricting numbers of foreign students (vitally needed as the Uni sector is underfunded), etc.
What Boris doesn't say is how easy or difficult any of this will be. He's just using generalist statements that give him a lot of wiggle room down the line.
Besides the EU have said no negotiations until we officially give notice to leave. If we leave and then go back and arrange a Norway style deal to allow free movement and access to the single market, we've just given away all our influence for no reduction in contribution or reduction in immigration. So a lot of people who voted out will be very, very unhappy. It could turn nasty. |  | | |
| Boris backtracking on 16:10 - Jun 27 with 1410 views | londonlisa2001 |
Sorry but that is nonsense.
It was the UK that stopped the EU from raising tariffs on Chinese steel anyway. | | | |
| Boris backtracking on 16:14 - Jun 27 with 1402 views | longlostjack |
| Boris backtracking on 16:10 - Jun 27 by londonlisa2001 |
Sorry but that is nonsense.
It was the UK that stopped the EU from raising tariffs on Chinese steel anyway. |
This. But as usual the EU were made the scapegoat. |  |
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| Boris backtracking on 16:17 - Jun 27 with 1395 views | WarwickHunt |
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| Boris backtracking on 16:18 - Jun 27 with 1392 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Boris backtracking on 16:14 - Jun 27 by longlostjack |
This. But as usual the EU were made the scapegoat. |
Yes - for ease, think of the UK as Swansea City and the EU as Stadco. | | | |
| Boris backtracking on 16:26 - Jun 27 with 1369 views | Groo |
ha, teach me to post a link without reading it.
the sentiment is the same though, Britain can, even though I'm a dumbass and posted a link where we're cutting our own throat. |  |
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| Boris backtracking on 16:42 - Jun 27 with 1336 views | londonlisa2001 |
Nice of Boris to show up for the commons debate. Gove hasn't bothered either. | | | |
| Boris backtracking on 16:44 - Jun 27 with 1332 views | Lohengrin |
| Boris backtracking on 16:42 - Jun 27 by londonlisa2001 |
Nice of Boris to show up for the commons debate. Gove hasn't bothered either. |
Isn't Boris in Germany? | |
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| Boris backtracking on 16:47 - Jun 27 with 1325 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Boris backtracking on 16:44 - Jun 27 by Lohengrin |
Isn't Boris in Germany? |
No - he's actually in the building just hasn't bothered to go to the chamber.
Running scared. | | | |
| Boris backtracking on 16:49 - Jun 27 with 1318 views | Humpty |
| Boris backtracking on 16:10 - Jun 27 by londonlisa2001 |
Sorry but that is nonsense.
It was the UK that stopped the EU from raising tariffs on Chinese steel anyway. |
And then said they couldn't raise tariffs because of Europe! |  | | |
| Boris backtracking on 16:51 - Jun 27 with 1309 views | Humpty |
| Boris backtracking on 10:17 - Jun 27 by Lohengrin |
Lord North! I wonder how many on here had to go scrambling for Wikipedia?
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I had to. | | | |
| Boris backtracking on 17:13 - Jun 27 with 1272 views | dailew |
| Boris backtracking on 10:17 - Jun 27 by Lohengrin |
Lord North! I wonder how many on here had to go scrambling for Wikipedia?
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What's Wikipedia? |  |
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| Boris backtracking on 17:43 - Jun 27 with 1244 views | sherpajacob |
| Boris backtracking on 17:13 - Jun 27 by dailew |
What's Wikipedia? |
Never trust an expert, they know nothing.apparently. | |
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| Boris backtracking on 18:14 - Jun 27 with 1214 views | Lohengrin |
| Boris backtracking on 16:47 - Jun 27 by londonlisa2001 |
No - he's actually in the building just hasn't bothered to go to the chamber.
Running scared. |
Bloody Hell, mun!  | |
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| Boris backtracking on 18:29 - Jun 27 with 1189 views | skippyjack |
| Boris backtracking on 17:43 - Jun 27 by sherpajacob |
Never trust an expert, they know nothing.apparently. |
You've never seen 'experts' talk sh*t?.. look at Ashley Williams for Wales the other day.. sums it up for me.
Look at the boxers who are trained by 'medical experts' to go toe to toe with another human in a brawl..
charlatans you all are.. |  |
| The awkward moment when a Welsh Club become the Champions of England.. shh
The Swansea Way.. To upset the odds. | | Poll: | Best Swans Player |
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| Boris backtracking on 18:50 - Jun 27 with 1165 views | sherpajacob |
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36644211
The talk from Gove and johnson this morning was all about informal negotiations.
EU saying, make your feckin mind up, are you in or out.
Let's take back control.
At the moment the UK government is displaying all the control of Andy McFarlane on a bumpy pitch. | |
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| Boris backtracking on 19:37 - Jun 27 with 1138 views | Highjack |
| Boris backtracking on 17:13 - Jun 27 by dailew |
What's Wikipedia? |
Does Wikipedia have a Wikipedia page? |  |
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