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Russia invade Ukraine 14:17 - Dec 23 with 188930 viewsFlynnidine_Zidownes

Discuss.

Also why is Putin always described in the media as this rugged strongman? He’s barely five foot tall with his high heels on.

But that’s another debate.

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Russia invade Ukraine on 10:54 - Jun 21 with 1286 viewscontroversial_jack

A few days ago, a Russian missile hit a Ukrainian control post and killed 57 top officers , including many top generals.The Ukraine responded by damaging a Russian gas producing rig.This is how outmatched the Ukraine is
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Russia invade Ukraine on 11:10 - Jun 21 with 1275 viewsScotia

Russia invade Ukraine on 08:19 - Jun 21 by Brynmill_Jack

Good article. However the Russians have been using UAVs to identify targets from the start so that part of their report is incorrect. The Russian line is that civilian housing blocks as well as hospitals, schools were used as defensive positions by the AFU. There was video footage of on armoured vehicle dotted by a drone in a hospital courtyard which Russian artillery then destroyed.

No one knows for certain if their account is true or the reverse. I know what most are thinking though and that's up to you.

The exact same thing can be said with regards the Ukrainian shelling of Donbas over the last 8 years which most commenting on this thread give either tacit or open approval of Donetsk this past week - hundreds of shells a day are landing in civilian populated areas. They hit a market in town yesterday 5 are dead.

Nobody is whiter than white in this conflict. That's war. And I do wish it would stop.


The Russians didn't have to use anything to identify any targets. That's all that matters.
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Russia invade Ukraine on 11:29 - Jun 21 with 1246 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Russia invade Ukraine on 11:10 - Jun 21 by Scotia

The Russians didn't have to use anything to identify any targets. That's all that matters.


They did. And they did. The Ukrainians are bombing Donetsk City indiscriminately - no drones used there.

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Russia invade Ukraine on 12:05 - Jun 21 with 1225 viewsScotia

Russia invade Ukraine on 11:29 - Jun 21 by Brynmill_Jack

They did. And they did. The Ukrainians are bombing Donetsk City indiscriminately - no drones used there.


In that case so did the US / NATO in every war they've ever been involved in.
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Russia invade Ukraine on 12:18 - Jun 21 with 1219 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Russia invade Ukraine on 11:29 - Jun 21 by Brynmill_Jack

They did. And they did. The Ukrainians are bombing Donetsk City indiscriminately - no drones used there.


Russian says it has total control of Russian airspace. How can Ukraine br dropping bombs.

I know the Ukrainians now have heavy artillery are are targeting Russian Miltary targets unlike the Russian who have been targeting, schools, hospitals, housing etc since they started the invasion.

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Russia invade Ukraine on 12:44 - Jun 21 with 1213 viewscontroversial_jack

Russia invade Ukraine on 12:18 - Jun 21 by felixstowe_jack

Russian says it has total control of Russian airspace. How can Ukraine br dropping bombs.

I know the Ukrainians now have heavy artillery are are targeting Russian Miltary targets unlike the Russian who have been targeting, schools, hospitals, housing etc since they started the invasion.


The Ukraine has been targeting civilians since 2014
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Russia invade Ukraine on 13:14 - Jun 21 with 1205 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Russia invade Ukraine on 12:18 - Jun 21 by felixstowe_jack

Russian says it has total control of Russian airspace. How can Ukraine br dropping bombs.

I know the Ukrainians now have heavy artillery are are targeting Russian Miltary targets unlike the Russian who have been targeting, schools, hospitals, housing etc since they started the invasion.


I meant artillery not from the air! Shells and tobanly howitzers supplied from EU no doubt

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Russia invade Ukraine on 06:19 - Jun 22 with 1104 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Russia invade Ukraine on 13:14 - Jun 21 by Brynmill_Jack

I meant artillery not from the air! Shells and tobanly howitzers supplied from EU no doubt


The new artillery are targeting Russian forces that were out of range before. The Russian don't like it when they are targeted.

Meanwhile the bully boys threatened another ex Soviet Republic for stopping Russian goods moving across their borders. Little old Lithuania standing up to the might of the Kremlin.

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Russia invade Ukraine on 09:14 - Jun 22 with 1077 viewscontroversial_jack

Russia invade Ukraine on 06:19 - Jun 22 by felixstowe_jack

The new artillery are targeting Russian forces that were out of range before. The Russian don't like it when they are targeted.

Meanwhile the bully boys threatened another ex Soviet Republic for stopping Russian goods moving across their borders. Little old Lithuania standing up to the might of the Kremlin.


They aren't targeting Russian forces, they are targeting the civilian areas in Donbass,Weapons from the US, Europe aren't getting to the frontline, the Russians are intercepting the shipments
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Russia invade Ukraine on 11:58 - Jun 22 with 1062 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Russia invade Ukraine on 09:14 - Jun 22 by controversial_jack

They aren't targeting Russian forces, they are targeting the civilian areas in Donbass,Weapons from the US, Europe aren't getting to the frontline, the Russians are intercepting the shipments


Wrong on both counts. They are targeting Russian artillery with their new British artillery. The British army have been training Ukrainian soldiers how to use them on Salisbury Plain for the last two months.

It is tye Russian who are targeting civilians, hospitals, schools and people homes. There are of course no UKRAINIAN civilians in Russian occupied territory according to Russia.

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Russia invade Ukraine on 15:45 - Jun 22 with 1031 viewscontroversial_jack

Russia invade Ukraine on 11:58 - Jun 22 by felixstowe_jack

Wrong on both counts. They are targeting Russian artillery with their new British artillery. The British army have been training Ukrainian soldiers how to use them on Salisbury Plain for the last two months.

It is tye Russian who are targeting civilians, hospitals, schools and people homes. There are of course no UKRAINIAN civilians in Russian occupied territory according to Russia.


Wrong on both counts You are guilty of swallowing the wests propaganda and lying media. They are still pushing the narrative that Russia is losing.The latest being, Russia has suffered a blow on snake Island.There is no strategic value of that place to Russia

As I stated earlier, Weapons are not really getting through to the Ukrainian military and they are almost out of ammo.Russians are intercepting the weapons shipment
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Russia invade Ukraine on 15:51 - Jun 22 with 1030 viewsScotia

Russia invade Ukraine on 15:45 - Jun 22 by controversial_jack

Wrong on both counts You are guilty of swallowing the wests propaganda and lying media. They are still pushing the narrative that Russia is losing.The latest being, Russia has suffered a blow on snake Island.There is no strategic value of that place to Russia

As I stated earlier, Weapons are not really getting through to the Ukrainian military and they are almost out of ammo.Russians are intercepting the weapons shipment


Any proof of any of that?

It's blatantly obvious that weapons are getting through to the Ukrainian front line. You don't need to swallow any propaganda to realise that.

If our media are lying then so is the Russain state media who claim that Ukraine are shelling Donetsk.
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Russia invade Ukraine on 15:55 - Jun 22 with 1029 viewscontroversial_jack

Russia invade Ukraine on 15:51 - Jun 22 by Scotia

Any proof of any of that?

It's blatantly obvious that weapons are getting through to the Ukrainian front line. You don't need to swallow any propaganda to realise that.

If our media are lying then so is the Russain state media who claim that Ukraine are shelling Donetsk.


If weapons are getting through, why are they losing? Russia is constantly taking villages and territory in the East. Russia has loads of ammo, troops and equipment.They have short supply line back to Russia and can resupply at any time.They also rotate their troops to keep them fresh. The Ukrainian military has no such options. It has been told to dig and fight to the end, by Washington via Zelensky and his cronies
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Russia invade Ukraine on 17:16 - Jun 22 with 1019 viewsScotia

Russia invade Ukraine on 15:55 - Jun 22 by controversial_jack

If weapons are getting through, why are they losing? Russia is constantly taking villages and territory in the East. Russia has loads of ammo, troops and equipment.They have short supply line back to Russia and can resupply at any time.They also rotate their troops to keep them fresh. The Ukrainian military has no such options. It has been told to dig and fight to the end, by Washington via Zelensky and his cronies


Do you really have to ask that question?

Why do you think they're losing ground but haven't lost the war?
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Russia invade Ukraine on 18:19 - Jun 22 with 1008 viewscontroversial_jack

Russia invade Ukraine on 17:16 - Jun 22 by Scotia

Do you really have to ask that question?

Why do you think they're losing ground but haven't lost the war?
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They have lost the war, but Zelensky and his puppet masters won't acknowledge it
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Russia invade Ukraine on 22:12 - Jun 22 with 979 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Russia invade Ukraine on 18:19 - Jun 22 by controversial_jack

They have lost the war, but Zelensky and his puppet masters won't acknowledge it


How have they lost the war when the Russian attack on Kyev was defeated and repelled with the Russians retreating in disarray.

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Russia invade Ukraine on 22:14 - Jun 22 with 978 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Russia invade Ukraine on 15:45 - Jun 22 by controversial_jack

Wrong on both counts You are guilty of swallowing the wests propaganda and lying media. They are still pushing the narrative that Russia is losing.The latest being, Russia has suffered a blow on snake Island.There is no strategic value of that place to Russia

As I stated earlier, Weapons are not really getting through to the Ukrainian military and they are almost out of ammo.Russians are intercepting the weapons shipment


Intercepting them how there are no Russian troops in that part of Ukraine.

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Russia invade Ukraine on 01:55 - Jun 23 with 919 viewsDJack

Russia invade Ukraine on 15:45 - Jun 22 by controversial_jack

Wrong on both counts You are guilty of swallowing the wests propaganda and lying media. They are still pushing the narrative that Russia is losing.The latest being, Russia has suffered a blow on snake Island.There is no strategic value of that place to Russia

As I stated earlier, Weapons are not really getting through to the Ukrainian military and they are almost out of ammo.Russians are intercepting the weapons shipment


"There is no strategic value of that place to Russia"

You are the dullest bloke ever if you think that. The many Russian attempts at landing there gives a clue even to idiots.

It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan

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Russia invade Ukraine on 08:13 - Jun 23 with 875 viewsBoundy

Russia invade Ukraine on 15:45 - Jun 22 by controversial_jack

Wrong on both counts You are guilty of swallowing the wests propaganda and lying media. They are still pushing the narrative that Russia is losing.The latest being, Russia has suffered a blow on snake Island.There is no strategic value of that place to Russia

As I stated earlier, Weapons are not really getting through to the Ukrainian military and they are almost out of ammo.Russians are intercepting the weapons shipment


And you with the great military mind and you post that nonsense , who controls Snake Island also has a massive influence on the shipping lanes into the Black Sea , you really must try harder because your posts on this thread would be an embarrassment to a 10 year old

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Russia invade Ukraine on 09:06 - Jun 23 with 860 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Seems that the Russians have intensified that indiscriminate sheling of civilians areas in the Donbas. Due to the lack of progress of their army they are now trying to comply destroy the areas they cannot "liberate"

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Russia invade Ukraine on 09:13 - Jun 23 with 857 viewsBoundy

Russia invade Ukraine on 09:06 - Jun 23 by felixstowe_jack

Seems that the Russians have intensified that indiscriminate sheling of civilians areas in the Donbas. Due to the lack of progress of their army they are now trying to comply destroy the areas they cannot "liberate"


That's Ivan's methodology , along with plundering assets ,any thing not welded to the earth is looted , a 21st century war with one side using 20th century tactics .

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Russia invade Ukraine on 09:32 - Jun 23 with 854 viewscontroversial_jack

Russia invade Ukraine on 22:12 - Jun 22 by felixstowe_jack

How have they lost the war when the Russian attack on Kyev was defeated and repelled with the Russians retreating in disarray.


I've explained this too you numerous times. It takes approx 1 soldier to every 40 inhabitant to take over and occupy a city. The Kyev area, has a population of about 3 million. Therefore, Russia would have had to send 75k troops at minimum do do this. They sent about 30k, and tied down 100k Ukrainian defenders. After this had been accomplished, They then withdrew in orderly fashion to go elsewhere

I don't know how many more times this has to be explained to you.
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Russia invade Ukraine on 09:39 - Jun 23 with 850 viewsBoundy

Russia invade Ukraine on 09:32 - Jun 23 by controversial_jack

I've explained this too you numerous times. It takes approx 1 soldier to every 40 inhabitant to take over and occupy a city. The Kyev area, has a population of about 3 million. Therefore, Russia would have had to send 75k troops at minimum do do this. They sent about 30k, and tied down 100k Ukrainian defenders. After this had been accomplished, They then withdrew in orderly fashion to go elsewhere

I don't know how many more times this has to be explained to you.


And everytime you post it the funnier it gets ,

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Russia invade Ukraine on 09:41 - Jun 23 with 849 viewscontroversial_jack

Russia invade Ukraine on 09:39 - Jun 23 by Boundy

And everytime you post it the funnier it gets ,


Great comeback, lol!
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Russia invade Ukraine on 16:15 - Jun 23 with 810 viewsTreforys_Jack

Its amazing the amount of people pointing out Western propaganda whilst happy to swallow Russian propaganda. Bizarre , all governments tell you what they want you to hear.
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