| Derby into Admin 21:57 - Sep 17 with 176335 views | TheRam |
Fooking w@nkers.
Actually feel sorry for the fans |  | | |  |
| Derby into Admin on 22:48 - Jun 16 with 5369 views | RangersDave |
Ashley now sueing derby administrator!
and next on 'soap' |  |
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| Derby into Admin on 00:13 - Jun 21 with 4608 views | Boston |
| Derby into Admin on 22:48 - Jun 16 by RangersDave |
Ashley now sueing derby administrator!
and next on 'soap' |
Is he attempting to be a wolf in sheep's clothing? | |
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| Derby into Admin on 02:48 - Jun 21 with 4504 views | Lblock |
Madness.
Sheer and utter madness.
This is why we should’ve stuck our jaw out and not accepted our FFP punishment. The EFL are clueless and gutless unless you are Bury, Luton etc (ie one of the smaller clubs and/or potless); never thought they’d have the minerals to take us all the way.
The fixtures are due out this Thursday.
What happens then?
Other clubs need to plan their seasons, schedules need drawing up and all other manner of logistics resolved. For instance; what if other League One clubs operate away season ticket offers? One less away game means an admin nightmare in respect of refunds etc.
Also, will the EFL finance cash strapped clubs who will also have one less home game IF there’s no Derby to travel to them? Then consider also the cup competitions where bys will be required IF there’s one less club…. surely the FA, the Vanarama, the East Midllans Sunday Combination and Mutton Chops Chippy Five A Side Trophy won’t be happy with the situation???
I read that hard deadlines aren’t the answer but further debt is…. Hilarity. There simply has to be a wire as it’s not just Derby taking it to that it’s the knock on effect.
Last thing anyone who follows football wants is another club to go into Liquidation (unless they are from SW London or Luton) and I blame the EFL more and more in this sorry mess. They are not fit and proper to be presiding over all of us, they are fiddling (ahem) on the deck as the boat burns and with every passing deadline look weaker, and weaker and more clueless.
On strings indeed.
Sad sorry mess |  |
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| Derby into Admin on 11:11 - Jun 21 with 4141 views | stantheman10 |
Who paid for a 'freshly laid pitch' !! | | | |
| Derby into Admin on 11:39 - Jun 21 with 4002 views | Juzzie |
No one wants to see a 'big' club go under but maybe it has to happen so everyone else can wake yup to the fact that player salaries are totally unacceptable and are 99% the cause of the problem.
Punishing clubs like Bury does nothing. It's needs a Derby or QPR (god forbid) or Portsmouth etc. The PFA needs to reel it in too. At some point they have to accept that player salaries are totally out of proportion. You could knock a zero off players annual salary and they would still be handsomely paid for kicking a bit of leather around. |  | | |
| Derby into Admin on 11:57 - Jun 21 with 3935 views | LythamR |
| Derby into Admin on 11:39 - Jun 21 by Juzzie |
No one wants to see a 'big' club go under but maybe it has to happen so everyone else can wake yup to the fact that player salaries are totally unacceptable and are 99% the cause of the problem.
Punishing clubs like Bury does nothing. It's needs a Derby or QPR (god forbid) or Portsmouth etc. The PFA needs to reel it in too. At some point they have to accept that player salaries are totally out of proportion. You could knock a zero off players annual salary and they would still be handsomely paid for kicking a bit of leather around. |
I think your right, only major incidents seem to generate real change, without a big team going under many will continue to dance on the edge of the precipice believing they cant really fall, I think Bury did have something of an effect on the lower league clubs but it needs someone like Derby to wake up most of the championship and premier league |  | | |
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| Derby into Admin on 11:58 - Jun 21 with 3932 views | EastR |
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61865768
It is beyond comprehension how the EFL can allow this situation can continue to be dragged out and fixtures published the day after tomorrow which include a club in this mess
This quote just about sums it up (the administrators) “We do not, however, believe that imposing ‘hard deadlines’ are the answer at this stage”
At this stage? Unbelievable. | |
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| Derby into Admin on 12:31 - Jun 21 with 3839 views | hantssi |
| Derby into Admin on 11:57 - Jun 21 by LythamR |
I think your right, only major incidents seem to generate real change, without a big team going under many will continue to dance on the edge of the precipice believing they cant really fall, I think Bury did have something of an effect on the lower league clubs but it needs someone like Derby to wake up most of the championship and premier league |
Health and Safety rules are only ever changed after a tragedy, I think this is a good analogy.
I don’t want to see any club, big or small (except that lot down the road or maybe Spuds) go to the wall but perhaps it’s what football needs. | | | |
| Derby into Admin on 12:52 - Jun 21 with 3792 views | Juzzie |
Companies (established well known ones too) go to the wall all the time and don't get any where near the amount of help football clubs do.
Sure, football is different from your average business but there has to be a tipping point where it's no longer sustainable and IMO that was past a long time ago.
The average Championship salary is £35,000 per week. That is fking insane. £1.8m per year. Yes, it'll command a higher tax level but if you can't survive on less than £85,000 a month net you need a hard look at yourself.
One 3 year contract and you are made for life. It would take 216 years for someone on £25k a year to acquire the same amount. It makes a mockery of the whole "it's a short career" mantra, that's just bollox nowadays.
That's the Championship. The PL and other top flight European clubs are on a level that left the word 'obscene' behind a long time ago. | | | |
| Derby into Admin on 13:09 - Jun 21 with 3687 views | slmrstid |
| Derby into Admin on 12:52 - Jun 21 by Juzzie |
Companies (established well known ones too) go to the wall all the time and don't get any where near the amount of help football clubs do.
Sure, football is different from your average business but there has to be a tipping point where it's no longer sustainable and IMO that was past a long time ago.
The average Championship salary is £35,000 per week. That is fking insane. £1.8m per year. Yes, it'll command a higher tax level but if you can't survive on less than £85,000 a month net you need a hard look at yourself.
One 3 year contract and you are made for life. It would take 216 years for someone on £25k a year to acquire the same amount. It makes a mockery of the whole "it's a short career" mantra, that's just bollox nowadays.
That's the Championship. The PL and other top flight European clubs are on a level that left the word 'obscene' behind a long time ago. |
Whilst it obviously suited us in 2001, the bit I also never understand as an adult (I was 12 then) is how football clubs go into administration, but actually pretty much carry on trading as normal.
Any other business that goes into administration ceases trading straight away and the administrators are straight in sacking everyone and then doing their job, to realise all the available assets to satisfy the creditors, or find a buyer to do that, but not to continue trading.
Bearing in mind it is also an offence under the Companies Act to knowingly trade whilst insolvent.
Think of the recent high-profile administrations involving airlines - Monarch Airlines and Thomas Cook - both of them straight away grounded all planes in the air, cancelled all remaining flights, and everyone lost their jobs straight away. Websites offline - everything kaput.
Quite how football clubs aren't subject to that I'm really not sure. |  | | |
| Derby into Admin on 13:20 - Jun 21 with 3598 views | LazyFan |
| Derby into Admin on 11:11 - Jun 21 by stantheman10 |
Who paid for a 'freshly laid pitch' !! |
Morris no doubt.
This enables him to ... allegedly demand monies for the stadium as he can claim it is in top-notch condition.
He can also say "I am not cut and run, I just spend £100K on the pitch". When has already cut and run ... allegedly. |  |
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| Derby into Admin on 14:42 - Jun 22 with 3079 views | RangersDave |
Todays news....
Players seeking legal advice..
Receivers looking for funding so that they can sell season tickets...
Club believes that even under a transfer embargo, the EFL will let them sign new players...
https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/derby-county-playe
and finally .....
https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/new-derby-county-t
The receivers want a loan.......
Derby County's administrators Quantuma are hoping to acquire a short-term loan to pay staff's wages for June.
And it is hoped the cash will also enable the Rams to sell season tickets and also sign players for the forthcoming League One season. It is not clear how Derby would be allowed to complete transfers particularly as they remain under a transfer embargo.
Derby's players are set to return to pre-season training next week with seven players under contract with boss Wayne Rooney having been stifled in his attempts to add to the squad because the club remains unsold. There are numerous players out of contract at Derby, but those deals expire on June 30 and time is running out for them to secure their futures. | |
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| Derby into Admin on 16:21 - Jun 22 with 2880 views | hantssi |
| Derby into Admin on 14:42 - Jun 22 by RangersDave |
Todays news....
Players seeking legal advice..
Receivers looking for funding so that they can sell season tickets...
Club believes that even under a transfer embargo, the EFL will let them sign new players...
https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/derby-county-playe
and finally .....
https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/new-derby-county-t
The receivers want a loan.......
Derby County's administrators Quantuma are hoping to acquire a short-term loan to pay staff's wages for June.
And it is hoped the cash will also enable the Rams to sell season tickets and also sign players for the forthcoming League One season. It is not clear how Derby would be allowed to complete transfers particularly as they remain under a transfer embargo.
Derby's players are set to return to pre-season training next week with seven players under contract with boss Wayne Rooney having been stifled in his attempts to add to the squad because the club remains unsold. There are numerous players out of contract at Derby, but those deals expire on June 30 and time is running out for them to secure their futures. |
Why on earth would the Business Secretary get involved? | | | |
| Derby into Admin on 16:25 - Jun 22 with 2841 views | toboboly |
| Derby into Admin on 14:42 - Jun 22 by RangersDave |
Todays news....
Players seeking legal advice..
Receivers looking for funding so that they can sell season tickets...
Club believes that even under a transfer embargo, the EFL will let them sign new players...
https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/derby-county-playe
and finally .....
https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/new-derby-county-t
The receivers want a loan.......
Derby County's administrators Quantuma are hoping to acquire a short-term loan to pay staff's wages for June.
And it is hoped the cash will also enable the Rams to sell season tickets and also sign players for the forthcoming League One season. It is not clear how Derby would be allowed to complete transfers particularly as they remain under a transfer embargo.
Derby's players are set to return to pre-season training next week with seven players under contract with boss Wayne Rooney having been stifled in his attempts to add to the squad because the club remains unsold. There are numerous players out of contract at Derby, but those deals expire on June 30 and time is running out for them to secure their futures. |
That Tom Lawrence money would be useful wouldn't it? Not sure the admins were able to turn down bids in January |  |
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| Derby into Admin on 16:30 - Jun 22 with 2798 views | Lblock |
I see the first link article mentions the League Two season kicking off soon.
Bit early with that aren’t they?!?!?! | |
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| Derby into Admin on 19:43 - Jun 22 with 2603 views | bollockchops |
"The Rams will face Premier League Leicester City as part of their schedule with Brendan Rodgers' side set to travel to Pride Park on Saturday, July 23, for a 1pm kick-off."
Am i right in thinking that Mel Morris will get a slice of this pie ?
Also the Rumbelows Cup draw is tomorrow (thursday) say Derby are drawn at home ,will he get a percentage of the gate receipts ? |  | | |
| Derby into Admin on 19:53 - Jun 22 with 2549 views | LazyFan |
| Derby into Admin on 19:43 - Jun 22 by bollockchops |
"The Rams will face Premier League Leicester City as part of their schedule with Brendan Rodgers' side set to travel to Pride Park on Saturday, July 23, for a 1pm kick-off."
Am i right in thinking that Mel Morris will get a slice of this pie ?
Also the Rumbelows Cup draw is tomorrow (thursday) say Derby are drawn at home ,will he get a percentage of the gate receipts ? |
I hope we draw them as that's probably the only way we shall progress into the next round! | |
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| Derby into Admin on 10:44 - Jun 23 with 2126 views | toboboly |
They have had their fixtures, presumably it is too late to kick them out and add someone else in so does that mean they have two options, a Luton or a Bury?
The full set of fixtures are here and home fixtures are in bold.
30/07/2022 15:00 Oxford United (h)
06/08/2022 15:00 Charlton Athletic (a)
13/08/2022 15:00 Barnsley (h)
16/08/2022 19:45 Shrewsbury Town (a)
20/08/2022 15:00 Fleetwood Town (a)
27/08/2022 15:00 Peterborough United (h)
03/09/2022 15:00 Plymouth Argyle (h)
10/09/2022 15:00 Morecambe (a)
13/09/2022 19:45 Lincoln City (a)
17/09/2022 15:00 Wycombe Wanderers (h)
24/09/2022 15:00 Cheltenham Town (h)
01/10/2022 15:00 Cambridge United (a)
08/10/2022 15:00 Port Vale (h)
15/10/2022 15:00 Accrington Stanley (a)
22/10/2022 15:00 Ipswich Town (a)
25/10/2022 19:45 Exeter City (h)
29/10/2022 15:00 Bristol Rovers (h)
12/11/2022 15:00 Milton Keynes Dons (a)
19/11/2022 15:00 Portsmouth (a)
03/12/2022 15:00 Sheffield Wednesday (h)
10/12/2022 15:00 Burton Albion (a)
17/12/2022 15:00 Forest Green Rovers (h)
26/12/2022 15:00 Bolton Wanderers (a)
29/12/2022 19:45 Cambridge United (h)
01/01/2023 15:00 Accrington Stanley (h)
07/01/2023 15:00 Port Vale (a)
14/01/2023 15:00 Cheltenham Town (a)
21/01/2023 15:00 Bolton Wanderers (h)
28/01/2023 15:00 Plymouth Argyle (a)
04/02/2023 15:00 Morecambe (h)
11/02/2023 15:00 Wycombe Wanderers (a)
14/02/202 19:45 Lincoln City (h)
18/02/2023 15:00 Charlton Athletic (h)
25/02/2023 15:00 Barnsley (a)
04/03/2023 15:00 Shrewsbury Town (h)
11/03/2023 15:00 Oxford United (a)
18/03/2023 15:00 Fleetwood Town (h)
25/03/2023 15:00 Peterborough United (a)
01/04/2023 15:00 Ipswich Town (h)
07/04/2023 15:00 Forest Green Rovers (a)
10/04/2023 15:00 Milton Keynes Dons (h)
15/04/2023 15:00 Bristol Rovers (a)
18/04/2023 19:45 Exeter City (a)
22/04/2023 15:00 Burton Albion (h)
29/04/2023 15:00 Portsmouth (h)
06/05/2023 15:00 Sheffield Wednesday (a) | |
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| Derby into Admin on 11:03 - Jun 23 with 2068 views | Juzzie |
How much more help can they be given?
What if they don't have enough players or will they cobble together some kind of starting XI and subs from kids and just get beaten 5-0 every game? makes a mockery of the competition. | | | |
| Derby into Admin on 11:13 - Jun 23 with 4936 views | RangersDave |
| Derby into Admin on 11:03 - Jun 23 by Juzzie |
How much more help can they be given?
What if they don't have enough players or will they cobble together some kind of starting XI and subs from kids and just get beaten 5-0 every game? makes a mockery of the competition. |
EFL, despite their ex derby member, should have cut them loose.
How long can a company be in receivership?
If its in receivership, how can they after this long, try to get a financial loan just to be able to sell tickets?
WTF? | |
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| Derby into Admin on 11:17 - Jun 23 with 4902 views | Juzzie |
| Derby into Admin on 11:13 - Jun 23 by RangersDave |
EFL, despite their ex derby member, should have cut them loose.
How long can a company be in receivership?
If its in receivership, how can they after this long, try to get a financial loan just to be able to sell tickets?
WTF? |
I also wonder if there's conflict with the Administrators who deal with the football clubs... Don't they get paid more the longer it goes on? If so, where's the incentive for a quick resolution.
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| Derby into Admin on 11:22 - Jun 23 with 4826 views | stantheman10 |
| Derby into Admin on 11:03 - Jun 23 by Juzzie |
How much more help can they be given?
What if they don't have enough players or will they cobble together some kind of starting XI and subs from kids and just get beaten 5-0 every game? makes a mockery of the competition. |
The biggest problem is if they start the season playing youth players and Fred from the corner shop how fair is it to the teams they play later in the season if they get taken over and sign new (uncontracted players). A totally disjointed season for all League 1 teams. Maybe they should all get together and take legal action against Derby | | | |
| Derby into Admin on 11:24 - Jun 23 with 4804 views | slmrstid |
This happened with Bolton a few years ago didnt it? They had to play 16/17 year old scholars for the first couple of months in League One, got absolutely wallopped every time, then had a takeover and signed a new squad.
They still went down, but obviously the teams who got to play them early on and get a thumping win were given a huge advantage over those who had to play them with a normal squad of pros. | | | |
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