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Well I finally ventured out for the first time since lockdown, mainly as I was missing decent sausages and know local butcher is strict on social distance and only 1 customer per time in the shop, 32 sausages in the freezer and other stuff no issues.
The mrs then decided we had to go to a mini Sainsbury’s for essentials, I headed in (she stayed in the car). Within 30 seconds I avoided 3 builders (no way related) rolling a cig with a homeless women, dodged that.
Got inside and nice 2 meter squares on the floor, within a minute a bloke probably mid 40’s walked right next to me to get his sausages and steak, I made a comment and he moved away and apologised. Just as he did a girl and lad in late teens walked straight through the middle of us, by then the air turned a little blue.
Those breaking the rule (other than the 1 guy) were average age low 20’s, everyone else was moving away, waiting and doing what was expected largely, and some more so.
The point is, we have the highest death rate in Europe, and that goes hand in hand with the highest level of dickheads and lowest level of general respect, add lack of allowable control from the police and, to a point governmental confusion.
Loads of things can be blamed but we are no longer a nation of shopkeepers, we are a nation of fcukwits, we need proper police control, fines, car seizures etc. Stop buggering about and do something about it, bombing Southend beach sadly is too extreme.
I won’t be heading out again for a long while. I genuinely wish I was German, or Dutch, or Australian, or ...........
Every Team Needs A John Ryan - The Winger Who's a Ringer!!!!!
Nope. Not convinced by BJ's defence of Cummins. There was, in my view, no effort made to even try and hide the spin on this. We are persuaded to accept that Cummings cares for his child and did what any caring and responsible parent would do and that we cannot criticise him for that. And so his subsequent actions can be justified by a disassembling of Covid restriction rules to justify his actions. Sorry, but I'm not buying it.
This is so much b*llox on all levels and has been demonstrated as such across the media. The stories of real personal sacrifice and heartache that are coming out in the wake of this story are heartwrenching, heartbreaking and, and...I don't know, can't describe it further. I'm not angry any more. I'm resigned to this now - we should have known in our hearts that we were being taken for a ride all along - we all do as we're told while our lords and masters, the elected and unelected elite and all do what they have always done. Which is whatever it is they want to.
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Covid and the mentality of some! on 06:32 - May 25 with 1923 views
I don't think it'll be long before one or more ministers break ranks. There's already been muttering to journos in confidence, and once it happens there's no knowing what that could lead to; at this juncture, of all junctures in the life of the UK's social & political history
In many respects, it's too late in terms of the damage already done, but even at this late hour (gone midnight, as it were) the cabinet should take this situation by the scruff of the neck and insist on a resignation/sacking, not really bothered which - but sacking would be better
At least we could then move on. The rate of new infections and subsequent morbidity are heading in the right direction to do so; to start looking forward rather than the fear and heartbreak of the last two months. It's probably the worst political decision i've seen in my lifetime, just in terms of sheer tone-deafness
It can be remedied, but it'll never be forgotten or forgiven
Haven't commented on this sad episode yet, but I agree with D'alien that it has to rank amongst the worst political decisions I can recall...up there with Blair's weapons of mass destruction and Gordon Brown selling our gold reserves when the price was at a historic low.
Cummings must go, or the whole Government will have lost much of its credibility, and future decisions regarding lockdown will be treated with contempt by the public. This, at a time when the population really needs to be able to put some trust in the people running the country.
Sadly, the PM seems to hang onto every word that Cummings tells him, and the cabinet has up to now, followed BJ's lead blindly. The really stupid thing is that should the PM wish to continue being advised by DC, there are any number of ways that this can be done...just not so much in the public eye.
Unless DC is removed from office, this will not end well.
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Covid and the mentality of some! on 12:55 - May 25 with 1650 views
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Covid and the mentality of some! on 13:20 - May 25 by D_Alien
One can only imagine the politicking that's going on behind the scenes
Summat's shifted for this to be happening. If it's not a resignation, surely no-one in government thinks it will "put it to bed" ??
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If it’s not a resignation, it will be an accelerant to a fire that’s already out of control!
I expect something along the lines of...
I didn’t do anything wrong I protected my family The PM believes in right and wrong, and his values make him a great leader BUT all this is distracting from the coronavirus fight, therefore I resign
Blah blah blah
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Covid and the mentality of some! on 13:53 - May 25 with 1568 views
Covid and the mentality of some! on 13:46 - May 25 by Brierls
If it’s not a resignation, it will be an accelerant to a fire that’s already out of control!
I expect something along the lines of...
I didn’t do anything wrong I protected my family The PM believes in right and wrong, and his values make him a great leader BUT all this is distracting from the coronavirus fight, therefore I resign
Blah blah blah
Leaning towards that, and for the final line (not the blah x 3) it’s to be hoped.
Self isolation isn’t just something the government has imposed/suggested just to pi$$ everyone off. There is some sense behind it. If it were simply an option I think I would have self isolated as I have. It seems logical to try to keep out of everyone else’s way if possible till it reduces in numbers of carriers or a vaccine is found. So all the people moaning that they can’t do things they would normally do should blame the virus and it’s source (somewhere in China) not the government. I hope the government has the welfare and future of the country in mind with it’s plans, despite my cynicism. Don’t blame the messenger.
On Cummings, I think there has been a large section of the country hoping for a chance to get rid of him and he seems to have given them a good reason. I don’t know what should happen. Pretty neutral.
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Covid and the mentality of some! on 14:05 - May 25 with 1552 views
Covid and the mentality of some! on 13:58 - May 25 by jonesy
Forget Cummings for a minute.
Self isolation isn’t just something the government has imposed/suggested just to pi$$ everyone off. There is some sense behind it. If it were simply an option I think I would have self isolated as I have. It seems logical to try to keep out of everyone else’s way if possible till it reduces in numbers of carriers or a vaccine is found. So all the people moaning that they can’t do things they would normally do should blame the virus and it’s source (somewhere in China) not the government. I hope the government has the welfare and future of the country in mind with it’s plans, despite my cynicism. Don’t blame the messenger.
On Cummings, I think there has been a large section of the country hoping for a chance to get rid of him and he seems to have given them a good reason. I don’t know what should happen. Pretty neutral.
Not seen many on here moaning they can’t do anything because of the government.
It’s the recent developments, that can’t and shouldn’t be forgotten, that have led to those restrictions, which most understood, being undermined.
Covid and the mentality of some! on 14:05 - May 25 by 442Dale
Not seen many on here moaning they can’t do anything because of the government.
It’s the recent developments, that can’t and shouldn’t be forgotten, that have led to those restrictions, which most understood, being undermined.
Not seen ANY on here moaning that they can’t go to football, see relatives, go down the pub etc because of the Chinese government. Let’s put the blame where it belongs.
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Covid and the mentality of some! on 14:45 - May 25 with 1503 views
Covid and the mentality of some! on 14:42 - May 25 by jonesy
Not seen ANY on here moaning that they can’t go to football, see relatives, go down the pub etc because of the Chinese government. Let’s put the blame where it belongs.
Covid and the mentality of some! on 14:42 - May 25 by jonesy
Not seen ANY on here moaning that they can’t go to football, see relatives, go down the pub etc because of the Chinese government. Let’s put the blame where it belongs.
Pull the other one Jonsey, you sound like Donald Trump!
Covid and the mentality of some! on 13:46 - May 25 by Brierls
If it’s not a resignation, it will be an accelerant to a fire that’s already out of control!
I expect something along the lines of...
I didn’t do anything wrong I protected my family The PM believes in right and wrong, and his values make him a great leader BUT all this is distracting from the coronavirus fight, therefore I resign
Blah blah blah
Even though it’s not happened yet, I think this will be an excellent summary.
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