| General Election 13:52 - May 22 with 19691 views | raynor94 |
Are we about to hear the date later today, Sunak has called a cabinet meeting this afternoon.
Inflation is down, things aren't going to get much better for the Tories.
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| General Election on 18:11 - May 30 with 1302 views | Whiterockin |
| General Election on 18:07 - May 30 by Scotia |
You could say that about the majority of adults. |
And the reason they don't bother to vote and the turnout is so low. |  | | |
| General Election on 18:15 - May 30 with 1287 views | Flashberryjack |
| General Election on 18:06 - May 30 by Scotia |
But is also old enough to have a child, get married and join the army. |
Girls can have children anytime after puberty (youngest in UK was twelve), sixteen year olds need parental consent to get married or join the forces. [Post edited 30 May 19:12]
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| General Election on 18:48 - May 30 with 1241 views | Gwyn737 |
Instinctively, 16 feels like too young to vote.
However, I do struggle a bit with the argument about âwhy canât they vote if they can pay tax?â |  | | |
| General Election on 18:52 - May 30 with 1235 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| General Election on 18:48 - May 30 by Gwyn737 |
Instinctively, 16 feels like too young to vote.
However, I do struggle a bit with the argument about âwhy canât they vote if they can pay tax?â |
No taxation without representation. Interesting concept. Could catch on. |  |
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| General Election on 20:56 - May 30 with 1155 views | Scotia |
| General Election on 18:48 - May 30 by Gwyn737 |
Instinctively, 16 feels like too young to vote.
However, I do struggle a bit with the argument about âwhy canât they vote if they can pay tax?â |
I agree. 18 across the board seems fair to me. | | | |
| General Election on 21:02 - May 30 with 1137 views | Dr_Winston |
I'm coming around to the idea that voting should be like driving. You should need to pass a knowledge based test proving that you understand concepts like compound interest and thus possess the required mental capacity to vote on important things like who runs the country.
Do that and get a voting licence which can also double as ID at polling stations, so it's win/win. |  |
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| General Election on 20:45 - May 31 with 1008 views | felixstowe_jack |
Labour have parachuted a candidate into Swansea west who has no connection at all to Swansea. They have over ruled the local Labour constituency workers. | |
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| General Election on 20:48 - May 31 with 1006 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| General Election on 21:02 - May 30 by Dr_Winston |
I'm coming around to the idea that voting should be like driving. You should need to pass a knowledge based test proving that you understand concepts like compound interest and thus possess the required mental capacity to vote on important things like who runs the country.
Do that and get a voting licence which can also double as ID at polling stations, so it's win/win. |
Socrates was suggesting that thousands of years ago but they ended up forcing poison down his throat for morally corrupting the youth. | |
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| General Election on 08:07 - Jun 1 with 918 views | jackrmee |
| General Election on 22:48 - May 29 by Scotia |
Because they only have to appeal to the minority of people who will vote the same way in every election. Anyone can stand for election but nobody will vote for them.
Elections in the UK and USA are decided on a handful of votes, and when at least 40% of people who could vote don't bother to do so the political parties are safe because they can bank on their hardcore support.
We need to have a big change to the entire political/electoral system.
My vote in Swansea east/neath constituency is usually wasted because labour will win in a landslide. I want the Tories to be destroyed in this election so it's not so much of a problem, but in a tighter battle it would be.
The government will be decided by a few thousand people in places like Leigh and Carmarthenshire West over the wishes of millions. |
Thanks. I still donât get it though.
Why are people so fixed on who they vote for?
Why would they stick to their usual vote, even though they must realise that the candidate is a nob? |  |
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| General Election on 08:10 - Jun 1 with 918 views | jackrmee |
| General Election on 16:05 - May 30 by Robbie |
Discussion on tele earlier , Tories are dead against the Labour Manifesto clause to bring the voting age down to 16 .
They fear the youngsters of today are so brainwashed and educated to believe in diversity and inclusion , gay rights etc , the new voters will go for the woke agendas and all things Green .
Thus losing the true art of Political Debate across all topics of importance to us , added to votes being lost to others against the Conservative values and beliefs they hold seems a concern to the Tories .
Good points made . For now my pencil and pencil sharperer will remain in their case .
So far both main leaders and Parties must be neck and neck in the polls .
Totally O/T but seen The Ukraine Ladies Football Team in Swansea earlier , taking photos of Swansea Castle and the surrounds , few beauts hanging about in Castle Gardens then as normal . Wonder if they got into the landscape
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Surely the youngsters are the ones most likely to want to vote for independents and not the main 2 joking parties? | |
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| General Election on 08:12 - Jun 1 with 914 views | jackrmee |
| General Election on 18:03 - May 30 by Whiterockin |
The majority of 16 year old don't read newspapers or watch the news. They don't even watch live tv unless it's sport. How can they form political views unless they are in a school or college environment where it is prevalent. |
You canât build sound political views from watching the news | |
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| General Election on 08:36 - Jun 1 with 898 views | waynekerr55 |
| General Election on 16:05 - May 30 by Robbie |
Discussion on tele earlier , Tories are dead against the Labour Manifesto clause to bring the voting age down to 16 .
They fear the youngsters of today are so brainwashed and educated to believe in diversity and inclusion , gay rights etc , the new voters will go for the woke agendas and all things Green .
Thus losing the true art of Political Debate across all topics of importance to us , added to votes being lost to others against the Conservative values and beliefs they hold seems a concern to the Tories .
Good points made . For now my pencil and pencil sharperer will remain in their case .
So far both main leaders and Parties must be neck and neck in the polls .
Totally O/T but seen The Ukraine Ladies Football Team in Swansea earlier , taking photos of Swansea Castle and the surrounds , few beauts hanging about in Castle Gardens then as normal . Wonder if they got into the landscape
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Brainwashed by a curriculum that the Tories have been in control of for 14 years.
Can we please stop taking the crâp printed in the right wing rags as gospel, please? |  |
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| General Election on 10:03 - Jun 1 with 864 views | Gwyn737 |
| General Election on 08:36 - Jun 1 by waynekerr55 |
Brainwashed by a curriculum that the Tories have been in control of for 14 years.
Can we please stop taking the crâp printed in the right wing rags as gospel, please? |
Primary school LBGT champions, 72 genders taught.
All made up bogeymen.
Whatâs surprises me is this kind of thing is so easy refuted. Every one has recent experience of schools through friends and/or family and school publish their teaching materials on their websites.
Yet when you ask believers for an actual example ( not some thing theyâve heard) they canât give a single one. | | | |
| General Election on 10:27 - Jun 1 with 845 views | waynekerr55 |
| General Election on 10:03 - Jun 1 by Gwyn737 |
Primary school LBGT champions, 72 genders taught.
All made up bogeymen.
Whatâs surprises me is this kind of thing is so easy refuted. Every one has recent experience of schools through friends and/or family and school publish their teaching materials on their websites.
Yet when you ask believers for an actual example ( not some thing theyâve heard) they canât give a single one. |
Don't get me wrong there are probably examples but it makes up 0.01% of schooling (if even that much)
Young people are the future, this idea that we were all angels on our youth is another one for the fairies | |
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| General Election on 16:59 - Jun 1 with 789 views | Johnw102 |
| General Election on 20:45 - May 31 by felixstowe_jack |
Labour have parachuted a candidate into Swansea west who has no connection at all to Swansea. They have over ruled the local Labour constituency workers. |
Done the same in Pembrokeshire (see earlier message) bought in some rich farmer from Gloucestershire because Mummy's a second home in St David's! |  |
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| General Election on 17:55 - Jun 1 with 751 views | SullutaCreturned |
| General Election on 08:07 - Jun 1 by jackrmee |
Thanks. I still donât get it though.
Why are people so fixed on who they vote for?
Why would they stick to their usual vote, even though they must realise that the candidate is a nob? |
Why? Because a large chunk of the electorate are nobs, maybe? | | | |
| General Election on 18:25 - Jun 1 with 733 views | onehunglow |
We have a free vote
Iâve read an horrendous post about electors being educated to have the â knowledgeâ to vote .
This is like the days when only land owners had the vote which meant back people couldnât
We are free to vote ,no matter how dumb. It is our right . | |
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| General Election on 19:17 - Jun 1 with 715 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| General Election on 18:25 - Jun 1 by onehunglow |
We have a free vote
Iâve read an horrendous post about electors being educated to have the â knowledgeâ to vote .
This is like the days when only land owners had the vote which meant back people couldnât
We are free to vote ,no matter how dumb. It is our right . |
Would you put the average voter in charge of sailing a trireme to Samos in a storm? | |
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| General Election on 19:25 - Jun 1 with 702 views | Dr_Winston |
| General Election on 19:17 - Jun 1 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Would you put the average voter in charge of sailing a trireme to Samos in a storm? |
Millions of people in this country will pay money, actual British currency, to vote in the Britain's Got Talent final.
Some would have you believe that those same people should be allowed to vote on who runs the country.
Weird. | |
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| General Election on 20:43 - Jun 1 with 660 views | onehunglow |
| General Election on 19:25 - Jun 1 by Dr_Winston |
Millions of people in this country will pay money, actual British currency, to vote in the Britain's Got Talent final.
Some would have you believe that those same people should be allowed to vote on who runs the country.
Weird. |
They are free to do so.
Some vote Tory in south Wales.
What greater example of madness is that | |
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| General Election on 20:45 - Jun 1 with 656 views | SullutaCreturned |
| General Election on 19:17 - Jun 1 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Would you put the average voter in charge of sailing a trireme to Samos in a storm? |
Has it got a full complement of slaves to row it? Their buggers to sail thse Triremes, far too big and heavy. A bireme yes but not a tri. | | | |
| General Election on 20:47 - Jun 1 with 654 views | onehunglow |
| General Election on 19:17 - Jun 1 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Would you put the average voter in charge of sailing a trireme to Samos in a storm? |
I had to look that up.
We allow women the vote now. | |
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| General Election on 20:56 - Jun 1 with 649 views | SullutaCreturned |
| General Election on 20:47 - Jun 1 by onehunglow |
I had to look that up.
We allow women the vote now. |
But do we give them all bronze tipped ramming prow? | | | |
| General Election on 21:04 - Jun 1 with 643 views | onehunglow |
| General Election on 20:56 - Jun 1 by SullutaCreturned |
But do we give them all bronze tipped ramming prow? |
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| General Election on 00:22 - Jun 2 with 580 views | Scotia |
| General Election on 08:07 - Jun 1 by jackrmee |
Thanks. I still donât get it though.
Why are people so fixed on who they vote for?
Why would they stick to their usual vote, even though they must realise that the candidate is a nob? |
Most of the time they don't even think about it.
A vote in a general election is the most significant contribution we can make as an adult to life in this country. Everyone should do it and think about what they're voting for. Most people don't.
I'm sure you've seen people on here defending the Tory party despite the absolute cluster f**k they've made of the country, similar to people voting for Tony Blair and then Jeremy Corbyn.
The best one is the 20mph speed limit in Wales. Clearly in Labour manifesto, we re-elected them and then moaned about it.
People are stupid. | | | |
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