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It,s to hot !! 15:54 - Jul 11 with 22040 viewsconnell10

That's it ...

AND WHEN I DREAM , I DREAM ABOUT YOU AND WHEN I SCREAM I SCREAM ABOUT YOU!!!!!
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It,s to hot !! on 21:38 - Jul 19 with 2437 viewsMyke

It,s to hot !! on 21:18 - Jul 19 by loftboy

Fair enough Kropt, no offence meant.


What a diverse group we are. Imagine if we supposed one of those fancy 'global' clubs?
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It,s to hot !! on 21:43 - Jul 19 with 2405 viewskropotkin41

It,s to hot !! on 21:18 - Jul 19 by loftboy

Fair enough Kropt, no offence meant.


None taken, Loftboy.

‘morbid curiosity about where this is all going’

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It,s to hot !! on 21:50 - Jul 19 with 2368 viewsdistortR

It,s to hot !! on 20:50 - Jul 19 by Boston

What's Paul doing in your loft?


And which one is in him?
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It,s to hot !! on 21:55 - Jul 19 with 2345 viewsdistortR

It,s to hot !! on 20:52 - Jul 19 by kropotkin41

Sorry if I came across as sanctimonious. It does so happen that my ecological footprint is pretty "good", it's like that as a result of lifestyle choices and to meet planning permission requirements.
I flew back from France once, I can't remember what year, but it wasn't the occasion I came to a match. Flying is pretty bloody stupid in a heating world, but I'm sorry if I've ever come over as preachy and hypocritical. I try to present arguments, not sermons. For what it's worth, I've flown three times in twenty five years, France every time. I'm done flying now.
I don't take any special credit for the life I lead. I'm amazingly fortunate and always have been. Again, individuals like you and I could never have made much of a difference anyway. If I ever made an argument contrary to that I'll apologise and put it down to anger, grief, and possibly a glass too many of red. The cause is and has been for a long long time, capitalism and its fossil fuel addiction.
In one final respect then, we agree. I don't come here to make arguments about climate change. We are absolutely cooked, it's not one tipping point, it's many. I don't understand why deniers would feel the need to spout at me. I don't care to try to convince, it's not important. It's over. So, you're right, what remains is to live with love and the urgency that this marvellous gift of life deserves.
Again, apologies for any inconsistencies in the past. You don't know me, and probably never will, goodness knows what you imagine about me. I am a genuine man who has devoted his life to ecology and trying to live accordingly. I live in a cabin made of straw bales in a field full of trees I've planted. I grow about 2/3 of my own food. I'm a very lucky man, but no hypocrite.
Best Wishes. Stay cool.


The one thing I will say is, the earth is amazingly resilient, I'm reading 'islands of abandonment' at the moment, great book. There will be change, yes, but don't give up the fight, all our kids deserve better.
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It,s to hot !! on 22:37 - Jul 19 with 2292 viewsCliveWilsonSaid

I think I just watched a burning house on the ITV news with the reporter telling me it was caused by the heat wave. Not sure how they knew that? I thought they investigate the causes of fire afterwards?

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It,s to hot !! on 23:05 - Jul 19 with 2245 viewsLblock

It,s to hot !! on 18:04 - Jul 19 by Northernr

Major fires kicking off around town at the moment and still idiots online saying, posting, broadcasting, writing, believing that this is "just summer, enjoy it". Wise up people etc.


I love sarcasm me; proper.

However to pick up on this, I don’t get it.
I dont conform FULLY to the climate disaster agenda; rightly or wrongly that’s where I’m at.
Your ever so highbrow and condescending rewrite here seems to say “well you dick, of course there’s fires because there’s a climate crisis; you’re wrong and we’re right you penis”
Okay and good sarky reuse of my OP but….
Can there not be summer fires due to….well, fcuk me, the summer and idiots not respecting it?

Fcuk it I dunno, I’m bottles deep and maybe I am the idiot you state but… ah bollox to it

Cherish and enjoy life.... this ain't no dress rehearsal

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It,s to hot !! on 23:11 - Jul 19 with 2234 viewslarsricchi

This headline from 1996 might have something to do with all this...

https://www.theonion.com/scientists-discover-sun-is-made-of-hot-1819586099
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It,s to hot !! on 23:26 - Jul 19 with 2195 viewsCliveWilsonSaid

It,s to hot !! on 23:05 - Jul 19 by Lblock

I love sarcasm me; proper.

However to pick up on this, I don’t get it.
I dont conform FULLY to the climate disaster agenda; rightly or wrongly that’s where I’m at.
Your ever so highbrow and condescending rewrite here seems to say “well you dick, of course there’s fires because there’s a climate crisis; you’re wrong and we’re right you penis”
Okay and good sarky reuse of my OP but….
Can there not be summer fires due to….well, fcuk me, the summer and idiots not respecting it?

Fcuk it I dunno, I’m bottles deep and maybe I am the idiot you state but… ah bollox to it


Fires can be caused by all kinds of things. That was my point. You almost never know what causes them until they're investigated properly. Not by some bloke on ITV local news telling me so.

Even if it was caused by the hot weather. What actually caught fire and why is it in our homes? I mean it doesn't take much these are quite basic questions.
[Post edited 19 Jul 2022 23:29]

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It,s to hot !! on 09:07 - Jul 20 with 2002 viewsizlingtonhoop

It,s to hot !! on 23:05 - Jul 19 by Lblock

I love sarcasm me; proper.

However to pick up on this, I don’t get it.
I dont conform FULLY to the climate disaster agenda; rightly or wrongly that’s where I’m at.
Your ever so highbrow and condescending rewrite here seems to say “well you dick, of course there’s fires because there’s a climate crisis; you’re wrong and we’re right you penis”
Okay and good sarky reuse of my OP but….
Can there not be summer fires due to….well, fcuk me, the summer and idiots not respecting it?

Fcuk it I dunno, I’m bottles deep and maybe I am the idiot you state but… ah bollox to it




Whether you conform to it fully or otherwise, we are deeeeeep in the clarts, as Norman Stanley Fletcher once said.

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It,s to hot !! on 09:37 - Jul 20 with 1934 viewsSonofpugwash

House bricks spontaneously combust at 40 degrees?Do these people not know how they are made?
I wonder what the same people would have made of 1666....

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It,s to hot !! on 10:17 - Jul 20 with 1876 viewsPunteR

It,s to hot !! on 09:37 - Jul 20 by Sonofpugwash

House bricks spontaneously combust at 40 degrees?Do these people not know how they are made?
I wonder what the same people would have made of 1666....


No fire regs in 1666

Occasional providers of half decent House music.

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It,s to hot !! on 10:25 - Jul 20 with 1849 viewsPunteR

Climate change is a real thing but I think most fires are caused by people. Goes without saying but things heating up ,drying out etc will create a more fire friendly environment. The UK is less equipped for hot weather than say country's sitting on the equater for example.
Media likes to just stir shit up.
I've enjoyed the hot weather.

Occasional providers of half decent House music.

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It,s to hot !! on 10:32 - Jul 20 with 1834 viewsSonofpugwash

"Poor people staying in their houses as long as till the very fire touched them, and then running into boats or clambering from one pair of stair by the waterside to another. And among other things, the poor pigeons I perceive were loath to leave their houses, but hovered about the windows and balconies till they were some of them burned, their wings, and fell down."

Samuel Pepys.

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It,s to hot !! on 13:16 - Jul 20 with 1746 viewsR_from_afar

It,s to hot !! on 14:28 - Jul 19 by Sonofpugwash

Well thank fokk for that,thunder and lightning with torrential rain cooling things down.
Two days of my life I won't get back again.

Meanwhile in other parts of the warmist globe....



Global warming is about average global temperatures, so local or regional extremes of weather which appear to go against the trend are not relevant. The medieval warm period in the North Atlantic region is a case in point.

You are quoting sources which both get a score of "strong" for their "conspiracy level" and "pseudo-sci" level. One of your sources regularly promotes content from Russia Today.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/watts-up-with-that/
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/signs-of-the-times-sott/

Read what you want to read, believe what you want to believe, but be aware of the hidden agendas, sources and investors behind what you are viewing.

This website was set up as a platform for people who work as climate scientists:
https://www.realclimate.org/
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/realclimate/

Be aware that a lot of the ways of fixing the climate you will see promoted involve buying a new product or service. There may be simpler, cheaper, free, even, ways of making just as great a difference.

- Any product with computer chips in it will have a huge water and energy footprint due to the way integrated circuits are manufactured. Siemens and Fairy have both promoted dishwashers and using dishwashers as green solutions, which is a complete con, not least because they ignore the water and energy footprints of dishwashers during the manufacturing process and compare how much water state of the art dishwashers use with a person washing up using a running tap.

- Treat anyone denigrating renewables because "The sun doesn't always shine and the wind isn't always blowing" with extreme caution. Fossil fuel power plants are also intermittent because they require fuel to be transported to them, often from distant, war torn lands. Energy can be stored in batteries, by moving water into storage lakes (pumped storage, the fastest reacting energy system and the one we normally turn to when energy demand peaks in the UK) and by producing hydrogen for later use. Solar energy is already being stored in molten salt in some solar power plants.

Then there's nuclear:
- We can't build enough of them fast enough to avoid dangerous climate change. It's now too late
- Unless I am mistaken, we have no UK source for nuclear fuel
- Cleaning up our existing nuclear mess will cost an estimated £131bn, so roughly the cost of rescuing three banks. The cost of nuclear is going up and has always gone up historically (source: Greenwich University). Also, we can't find a permanent home for our existing nuclear waste
- Large power plants are actually not as helpful to the grid as some would have you believe. What happens when one breaks or has to go offline for maintenance? You suddenly have a huge shortfall to make up. On average, nuclear plants are offline at least 2 days a month (source: Rocky Mountain Institute)
- Plants have recently had to reduce their output or be taken offline because they can't be cooled effectively, and/or the used water is too hot to be returned to where it came from (e.g. a river). Seaweed infestations have also stopped UK nuclear plants from working.
- The much touted small, modular reactors have never been used to power grids

I see Liz Truss is suggesting the moratorium on fracking should end. Perhaps she would like to be a test case and let some company frack under her house. Let's leave the climate issues, potential earthquakes and unknown chemical cocktails to one side for a moment: Does she think it will make her home a) More valuable b) Less valuable? Hmmm. Oh, and...
- To cover 10% of UK gas, we would need 2500-3000 wells spread over 140-400sq km, using 27-113m (million) tonnes of water (source: Tyndall Centre)

We need to stop kidding ourselves that energy should be cheap and do far more to conserve it, use it more sparingly, insulate buildings, up our renewables output (while we have already done pretty well in comparison with other developed nations, we are miles off achieving net zero), and come up with infrastructure for storing green energy.

It can be done. Costa Rica ran their entire grid on renewables alone for a whole month.

It will also create jobs and be better for our health, respiratory and otherwise.

Another huge positive from running the country on local renewable energy would be the security which comes from energy independence.

Every degree of warming means sea levels will be 2.3 metres higher. I - we - need to think about our everyday choices.

And breathe....

"Things had started becoming increasingly desperate at Loftus Road but QPR have been handed a massive lifeline and the place has absolutely erupted. it's carnage. It's bedlam. It's 1-1."

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It,s to hot !! on 13:20 - Jul 20 with 1725 viewsizlingtonhoop

It,s to hot !! on 10:17 - Jul 20 by PunteR

No fire regs in 1666


Very few bricks, too.

And as a result there were building regs by 1667:

"1667 Rebuilding Act aimed at eradicating some of the risks that had made the fire so catastrophic. The new Building Regulations meant that:

upper floors of houses were no longer permitted to jut out over the floor below.
hanging signs were banned.
all houses or buildings, whether great or small, were to be built only in brick or stone — if new houses were built of other materials they would be pulled down, meaning no more building with wood and thatch"

Interestingly:

The only exception is the modern reconstruction of Shakespeare’s Globe theatre, opened in 1997. The 1667 Building Regs were waived so it could be built with original materials.
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It,s to hot !! on 13:51 - Jul 20 with 1651 viewsSydneyRs

We see plenty of summer fires here and yes they are usually caused by people, often deliberately.

However the point is that in blazing hot weather, especially with wind, they spread far far more quickly and have load of nice dry grass etc as fuel. So get used to this happening more often as extreme weather events happen more.
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It,s to hot !! on 13:51 - Jul 20 with 1650 viewskensalriser

It,s to hot !! on 13:16 - Jul 20 by R_from_afar

Global warming is about average global temperatures, so local or regional extremes of weather which appear to go against the trend are not relevant. The medieval warm period in the North Atlantic region is a case in point.

You are quoting sources which both get a score of "strong" for their "conspiracy level" and "pseudo-sci" level. One of your sources regularly promotes content from Russia Today.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/watts-up-with-that/
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/signs-of-the-times-sott/

Read what you want to read, believe what you want to believe, but be aware of the hidden agendas, sources and investors behind what you are viewing.

This website was set up as a platform for people who work as climate scientists:
https://www.realclimate.org/
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/realclimate/

Be aware that a lot of the ways of fixing the climate you will see promoted involve buying a new product or service. There may be simpler, cheaper, free, even, ways of making just as great a difference.

- Any product with computer chips in it will have a huge water and energy footprint due to the way integrated circuits are manufactured. Siemens and Fairy have both promoted dishwashers and using dishwashers as green solutions, which is a complete con, not least because they ignore the water and energy footprints of dishwashers during the manufacturing process and compare how much water state of the art dishwashers use with a person washing up using a running tap.

- Treat anyone denigrating renewables because "The sun doesn't always shine and the wind isn't always blowing" with extreme caution. Fossil fuel power plants are also intermittent because they require fuel to be transported to them, often from distant, war torn lands. Energy can be stored in batteries, by moving water into storage lakes (pumped storage, the fastest reacting energy system and the one we normally turn to when energy demand peaks in the UK) and by producing hydrogen for later use. Solar energy is already being stored in molten salt in some solar power plants.

Then there's nuclear:
- We can't build enough of them fast enough to avoid dangerous climate change. It's now too late
- Unless I am mistaken, we have no UK source for nuclear fuel
- Cleaning up our existing nuclear mess will cost an estimated £131bn, so roughly the cost of rescuing three banks. The cost of nuclear is going up and has always gone up historically (source: Greenwich University). Also, we can't find a permanent home for our existing nuclear waste
- Large power plants are actually not as helpful to the grid as some would have you believe. What happens when one breaks or has to go offline for maintenance? You suddenly have a huge shortfall to make up. On average, nuclear plants are offline at least 2 days a month (source: Rocky Mountain Institute)
- Plants have recently had to reduce their output or be taken offline because they can't be cooled effectively, and/or the used water is too hot to be returned to where it came from (e.g. a river). Seaweed infestations have also stopped UK nuclear plants from working.
- The much touted small, modular reactors have never been used to power grids

I see Liz Truss is suggesting the moratorium on fracking should end. Perhaps she would like to be a test case and let some company frack under her house. Let's leave the climate issues, potential earthquakes and unknown chemical cocktails to one side for a moment: Does she think it will make her home a) More valuable b) Less valuable? Hmmm. Oh, and...
- To cover 10% of UK gas, we would need 2500-3000 wells spread over 140-400sq km, using 27-113m (million) tonnes of water (source: Tyndall Centre)

We need to stop kidding ourselves that energy should be cheap and do far more to conserve it, use it more sparingly, insulate buildings, up our renewables output (while we have already done pretty well in comparison with other developed nations, we are miles off achieving net zero), and come up with infrastructure for storing green energy.

It can be done. Costa Rica ran their entire grid on renewables alone for a whole month.

It will also create jobs and be better for our health, respiratory and otherwise.

Another huge positive from running the country on local renewable energy would be the security which comes from energy independence.

Every degree of warming means sea levels will be 2.3 metres higher. I - we - need to think about our everyday choices.

And breathe....


Conspiracy nutters get put straight on ignore for me. Life's too short, and getting shorter.

No surprise that Russian controlled media feature in the nutter sources...
[Post edited 20 Jul 2022 15:03]

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It,s to hot !! on 14:04 - Jul 20 with 1597 viewsSonofpugwash

It,s to hot !! on 13:16 - Jul 20 by R_from_afar

Global warming is about average global temperatures, so local or regional extremes of weather which appear to go against the trend are not relevant. The medieval warm period in the North Atlantic region is a case in point.

You are quoting sources which both get a score of "strong" for their "conspiracy level" and "pseudo-sci" level. One of your sources regularly promotes content from Russia Today.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/watts-up-with-that/
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/signs-of-the-times-sott/

Read what you want to read, believe what you want to believe, but be aware of the hidden agendas, sources and investors behind what you are viewing.

This website was set up as a platform for people who work as climate scientists:
https://www.realclimate.org/
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/realclimate/

Be aware that a lot of the ways of fixing the climate you will see promoted involve buying a new product or service. There may be simpler, cheaper, free, even, ways of making just as great a difference.

- Any product with computer chips in it will have a huge water and energy footprint due to the way integrated circuits are manufactured. Siemens and Fairy have both promoted dishwashers and using dishwashers as green solutions, which is a complete con, not least because they ignore the water and energy footprints of dishwashers during the manufacturing process and compare how much water state of the art dishwashers use with a person washing up using a running tap.

- Treat anyone denigrating renewables because "The sun doesn't always shine and the wind isn't always blowing" with extreme caution. Fossil fuel power plants are also intermittent because they require fuel to be transported to them, often from distant, war torn lands. Energy can be stored in batteries, by moving water into storage lakes (pumped storage, the fastest reacting energy system and the one we normally turn to when energy demand peaks in the UK) and by producing hydrogen for later use. Solar energy is already being stored in molten salt in some solar power plants.

Then there's nuclear:
- We can't build enough of them fast enough to avoid dangerous climate change. It's now too late
- Unless I am mistaken, we have no UK source for nuclear fuel
- Cleaning up our existing nuclear mess will cost an estimated £131bn, so roughly the cost of rescuing three banks. The cost of nuclear is going up and has always gone up historically (source: Greenwich University). Also, we can't find a permanent home for our existing nuclear waste
- Large power plants are actually not as helpful to the grid as some would have you believe. What happens when one breaks or has to go offline for maintenance? You suddenly have a huge shortfall to make up. On average, nuclear plants are offline at least 2 days a month (source: Rocky Mountain Institute)
- Plants have recently had to reduce their output or be taken offline because they can't be cooled effectively, and/or the used water is too hot to be returned to where it came from (e.g. a river). Seaweed infestations have also stopped UK nuclear plants from working.
- The much touted small, modular reactors have never been used to power grids

I see Liz Truss is suggesting the moratorium on fracking should end. Perhaps she would like to be a test case and let some company frack under her house. Let's leave the climate issues, potential earthquakes and unknown chemical cocktails to one side for a moment: Does she think it will make her home a) More valuable b) Less valuable? Hmmm. Oh, and...
- To cover 10% of UK gas, we would need 2500-3000 wells spread over 140-400sq km, using 27-113m (million) tonnes of water (source: Tyndall Centre)

We need to stop kidding ourselves that energy should be cheap and do far more to conserve it, use it more sparingly, insulate buildings, up our renewables output (while we have already done pretty well in comparison with other developed nations, we are miles off achieving net zero), and come up with infrastructure for storing green energy.

It can be done. Costa Rica ran their entire grid on renewables alone for a whole month.

It will also create jobs and be better for our health, respiratory and otherwise.

Another huge positive from running the country on local renewable energy would be the security which comes from energy independence.

Every degree of warming means sea levels will be 2.3 metres higher. I - we - need to think about our everyday choices.

And breathe....


This sea level thing.Sly News set up a"climate change" camp near the low lying Fairbourne,Wales hoping fervently it would be inundated by "rising sea levels".
Guess what?I know the estate agents in that area and mortgages are still being handed out on properties there.
Sky News has moved on....
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It,s to hot !! on 14:16 - Jul 20 with 1540 viewsSheffieldHoop

Had a nice couple of days. Up early and got my work done. Spent most of the afternoon in the garden, swimming trunks on, playing darts. Popping inside for the odd cold shower and drinks top up. Lit the BBQ both days, and didn't burn down the pergola. Ended up feeding half the block on Monday. A roaring success.

I would happily take a couple of weeks of that every summer. Really enjoyable couple of days.

"Someone despises me. That's their problem." Marcus Aurelius

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It,s to hot !! on 14:25 - Jul 20 with 1524 viewsPinnerPaul

Whatever your point of view, what I hate is people jumping on the bandwagon for their own agendas.

Climate change 'expert' quoted as saying "Britain can no longer be called a cold country"

2 fundamentals problems with that from a non expert

1) 2 days of hot weather cannot be used to determine a country's climate and
2) When I was at school, a long time ago, I was taught we had a temperate climate.

Not sure where he's been living all his life, but not sure its in the UK!
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It,s to hot !! on 14:33 - Jul 20 with 1505 viewsSonofpugwash

In general terms dealing with topics of this nature,people don't want to hear your opinions just their opinions coming out of your mouth.

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It,s to hot !! on 14:46 - Jul 20 with 1457 viewsPinnerPaul

It,s to hot !! on 14:33 - Jul 20 by Sonofpugwash

In general terms dealing with topics of this nature,people don't want to hear your opinions just their opinions coming out of your mouth.


Substitute "any topic" for "topics of this nature" and I'm with you!
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It,s to hot !! on 14:47 - Jul 20 with 1451 viewsJuzzie

It,s to hot !! on 09:37 - Jul 20 by Sonofpugwash

House bricks spontaneously combust at 40 degrees?Do these people not know how they are made?
I wonder what the same people would have made of 1666....


they would have said "well, yeah, but, like, it killed off the plague, innit".
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It,s to hot !! on 15:07 - Jul 20 with 1380 viewskensalriser

It,s to hot !! on 14:25 - Jul 20 by PinnerPaul

Whatever your point of view, what I hate is people jumping on the bandwagon for their own agendas.

Climate change 'expert' quoted as saying "Britain can no longer be called a cold country"

2 fundamentals problems with that from a non expert

1) 2 days of hot weather cannot be used to determine a country's climate and
2) When I was at school, a long time ago, I was taught we had a temperate climate.

Not sure where he's been living all his life, but not sure its in the UK!


I'm sure it wasn't based on two days of hot weather but decades of data that unequivocally prove the direction of climate travel.

What you were taught at school was probably a number of decades ago. Things are changing. That's the entire point.

How seriously do you take people who haven't the first idea about football denying what you say about the laws of the game?

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It,s to hot !! on 15:11 - Jul 20 with 1362 viewsdmm

It,s to hot !! on 14:33 - Jul 20 by Sonofpugwash

In general terms dealing with topics of this nature,people don't want to hear your opinions just their opinions coming out of your mouth.


The climate emergency isn't one on which we can have an opinion. It's a scientific fact. It has been compared to smoking cigarettes. That smoking causes cancer and kills people isn't an opinion. It's a scientific fact.

And, as it's an existential threat to humanity, it's rather important everyone accepts this. Hearing people's opinions and views is of course important. But there comes a time when the facts have to win out.
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