| World population - NON QPR 11:34 - Nov 6 with 9665 views | Deano19766 |
As I see it, the sheer volume of human beings on this planet is pretty much the root cause of the majority of the problems this planet now experiences. I really feel a limit should be placed on the number of children a person can have, like what which was put in place in China. Most people are too self-interested to even consider entertaining such a policy.......so self-interested that they don't even care about the living conditions of their off spring i.e. as long as they satisfy their own needs of having loads of children then that is all that matters. Any thoughts? |  | | |  |
| World population - NON QPR on 15:26 - Nov 6 with 1308 views | hopphoops |
| World population - NON QPR on 15:10 - Nov 6 by gordanoR |
Child 2 & 3 arrived at the same time for us, should I give 1 back? It's so difficult to choose my favourite child though. |
My credit scheme takes this into account - you virtually trade child no.3 with the childless couple two doors up, they get your car and the right to use your bathroom whenever they want  |  |
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| World population - NON QPR on 15:28 - Nov 6 with 1303 views | hopphoops |
| World population - NON QPR on 15:11 - Nov 6 by PunteR |
Your welcome . I'm off to polish my Nobel peace prize medal and then meet Bono for lunch.
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rather you than me. | |
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| World population - NON QPR on 15:36 - Nov 6 with 1293 views | simmo |
| World population - NON QPR on 15:11 - Nov 6 by Deano19766 |
The thing is anyone denying it is not actually on a wind up unfortunately. They are deadly serious and actually really do believe that you are the mad one who should be sectioned. Nothing like self-interest to blind you to the truth. However, when they properly consider how it affects their children (the only other thing they actually give a fcuk about) it may just make them give at least some consideration to your opinion and the greater good!! Unlikely I guess, but you never know!! [Post edited 6 Nov 2014 15:14]
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Such utter assumptive bollocks.
Seeign as the birth rate has been decreasing and people are getting older/living longer, why is how many children people have really the problem and solution? Why stop at telling people how many children they can have?
Why don't you cull everybody over 70? Stop trying to find cures and vaccines for fatal diseases? Have a Battle Royale amongst randomly selected members of each country, we could televise it. Murdoch would be interested. |  |
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| World population - NON QPR on 15:37 - Nov 6 with 1293 views | gordanoR |
| World population - NON QPR on 15:26 - Nov 6 by hopphoops |
My credit scheme takes this into account - you virtually trade child no.3 with the childless couple two doors up, they get your car and the right to use your bathroom whenever they want |
I need my car to ferry around my children. They're welcome to the bathroom though it's horrible in there at times. |  | | |
| World population - NON QPR on 15:43 - Nov 6 with 1262 views | Antti_Heinola |
| World population - NON QPR on 14:34 - Nov 6 by TheBlob |
I'm very much afraid that in the not too distant future that won't be an option.
But yes,I did the same.But then I decided not to have any kids,partly for the sake of the planet,partly because they are noisy little bastards. |
yeah, those were the reasons. |  |
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| World population - NON QPR on 20:26 - Nov 6 with 1190 views | HollowayRanger |
once we start running out of oil gas water fish grain which we will the population will start to fall
just hope we will be ok for another 40 years
that do me
truth is man is the worst thing that ever happened to this planet |  |
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| World population - NON QPR (n/t) on 20:56 - Nov 6 with 1174 views | Deano19766 |
| World population - NON QPR on 20:26 - Nov 6 by HollowayRanger |
once we start running out of oil gas water fish grain which we will the population will start to fall
just hope we will be ok for another 40 years
that do me
truth is man is the worst thing that ever happened to this planet |
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| World population - NON QPR on 13:55 - Nov 7 with 1091 views | R_from_afar |
| World population - NON QPR on 20:26 - Nov 6 by HollowayRanger |
once we start running out of oil gas water fish grain which we will the population will start to fall
just hope we will be ok for another 40 years
that do me
truth is man is the worst thing that ever happened to this planet |
"Truth is man is the worst thing that ever happened to this planet". That's a fair point.
There are ways of averting the disaster you talk about but they require an end to the politics of procrastination. We are going to have to decarbonise the economy - the world economy - at some point so it is better to start in earnest now rather than put it off until the point where resources have run out and the climate has passed a tipping point.
Multiple studies have shown that the energy supply can be decarbonised. The solar energy which is absorbed by the earth in one hour is greater than the energy world uses in one year. Closer to home, The Carbon Trust has estimated that wave and tidal resources could provide 20% of the UK's electricity if fully developed. The Pentland Firth is said to be the best site for tidal power anywhere in the world.
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| "Things had started becoming increasingly desperate at Loftus Road but QPR have been handed a massive lifeline and the place has absolutely erupted. it's carnage. It's bedlam. It's 1-1." |
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| World population - NON QPR on 14:04 - Nov 7 with 1087 views | TheBlob |
| World population - NON QPR on 13:55 - Nov 7 by R_from_afar |
"Truth is man is the worst thing that ever happened to this planet". That's a fair point.
There are ways of averting the disaster you talk about but they require an end to the politics of procrastination. We are going to have to decarbonise the economy - the world economy - at some point so it is better to start in earnest now rather than put it off until the point where resources have run out and the climate has passed a tipping point.
Multiple studies have shown that the energy supply can be decarbonised. The solar energy which is absorbed by the earth in one hour is greater than the energy world uses in one year. Closer to home, The Carbon Trust has estimated that wave and tidal resources could provide 20% of the UK's electricity if fully developed. The Pentland Firth is said to be the best site for tidal power anywhere in the world.
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I say it again,you're chasing symptoms rather than causes.
This idea that what is good for us is good for the planet is bollocks.
If you consider the fact that of the 8/9 planets only one has an infestation.The others are either full of gas+/rocky/lifeless/carbon dioxide/sulphuric acid rain....maybe nature(if it extends that far)prefers low maintenance worlds.
Humans truly are the speck of soot in god's eye.
But I love em,hope they get their act together,would be a very boring universe without them. |  |
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| World population - NON QPR on 14:06 - Nov 7 with 1087 views | Brightonhoop |
What an odd thread. |  | | |
| World population - NON QPR on 17:03 - Nov 7 with 1059 views | FDC |
It really is an odd thread. To state the obvious: the kind of population control measures being proposed, if they were to work would require ruthless efficiency, and are surely less appealing than other more imaginative measures. As already stated, as a species we are spectacularly inefficient at distributing and making best use of our resources, including land. Let's try sorting that out before merrily heralding an error of dystopian birth policing! Shirley. |  | | |
| World population - NON QPR on 17:07 - Nov 7 with 1055 views | FDC |
The idea that our trajectory is inevitable is an illusion born of proximity. Think about the rise and fall of previous civilisations. In terms of population there are lots of factors contributing to a boom in the present, not least the absence of birth control in parts of the developing world. That's not an inevitability and can be addressed. | | | |
| World population - NON QPR on 17:27 - Nov 7 with 1044 views | loftboy |
| World population - NON QPR on 13:04 - Nov 6 by Deano19766 |
So you wouldn't mind your children or your grandchildren living in a hellish overpopulated world then and that they may suffer a great deal as a result? It's that attitude that has lead to the current problems, which are growing in magnitude every single day [Post edited 6 Nov 2014 13:08]
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Which of my 6 kids shall I sacrifice? |  |
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| World population - NON QPR on 18:00 - Nov 7 with 1022 views | hopphoops |
| World population - NON QPR on 17:03 - Nov 7 by FDC |
It really is an odd thread. To state the obvious: the kind of population control measures being proposed, if they were to work would require ruthless efficiency, and are surely less appealing than other more imaginative measures. As already stated, as a species we are spectacularly inefficient at distributing and making best use of our resources, including land. Let's try sorting that out before merrily heralding an error of dystopian birth policing! Shirley. |
The proven way to put people off having children is to turn them into consumer monkeys, so they ditch the second child in favour of the second Merc. Which begs the question, how to bombard the developing world with ads for carbon neutral cars, using only TVs made of recycled water bottles? Tricky this global policy malarkey. | |
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| World population - NON QPR on 18:22 - Nov 7 with 1017 views | FredManRave |
| World population - NON QPR on 17:27 - Nov 7 by loftboy |
Which of my 6 kids shall I sacrifice? |
That won't be necessary loftboy. I'm sure that Deano and Holloway will let you have their allocation of 2 each. So the question you should now ask yourself is, which of your two kids are Deanos and which two are Holloways?! [Post edited 7 Nov 2014 18:25]
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| World population - NON QPR on 18:29 - Nov 7 with 1008 views | johncharles |
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Wrong. One day the world population will be QPR. |  |
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| World population - NON QPR on 18:43 - Nov 7 with 1004 views | DeptfordR |
| World population - NON QPR on 17:27 - Nov 7 by loftboy |
Which of my 6 kids shall I sacrifice? |
The ones that eat the most   | | | |
| World population - NON QPR on 19:01 - Nov 7 with 992 views | loftboy |
| World population - NON QPR on 18:22 - Nov 7 by FredManRave |
That won't be necessary loftboy. I'm sure that Deano and Holloway will let you have their allocation of 2 each. So the question you should now ask yourself is, which of your two kids are Deanos and which two are Holloways?! [Post edited 7 Nov 2014 18:25]
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We'll one tried to be a lesbian a few years back! | |
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| World population - NON QPR on 19:12 - Nov 7 with 989 views | DylanP |
Wow, what a mixed bag on this thread
The human population of planet hit 1 billion in about 1815. By 1915, just hundred years later, it had hit 2 billion. The planet hit the 3 billion mark around 1945. We are now around 7 billion. Obviously, just looking at that trajectory the problem looks insurmountable. It becomes a terrifying prospect where people say things like 'we will be at 20 billion by next Tuesday' and so on.
However, the trajectory might be misleading. There is a direct correlation between poverty/wealth and family size. So as people get more affluent, family size goes down. That is why Northern European countries are experiencing population decline whereas most third world countries are experiencing rapid population increase. What that means is that as development continues, it is likely that family size will naturally decrease and the population increase will taper off. Of course, it all depends how quickly population increase tapers of.
I tend to think that the discussion of population increase is looking at things upside down. The way to bring down population growth is to bring up standards of living. This planet is not starved of resources. In fact, we have plenty. We just need to use them more wisely. There is already way more than enough food to feed everyone and yet 35 million people die every year from starvation and malnutrician. This planet has more sun, wind, and wave power than we could ever use and yet we use fossil fuels that pollute the planet, wreck the physical landscape and cause global warming.
The problems facing the planet are not caused by there being too many people on the planet, and they won't be solved by a slightly lower rate of population growth. They are caused by people (governments and citizens) making bad decisions on resource use and they will be solved by people making better decisions. |  |
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| World population - NON QPR on 19:40 - Nov 7 with 977 views | HollowayRanger |
when the fuels run out and the lights go out and the computers TV's ect stop working
what are us chaps going to find/do in the evenings to entertain us?
population rise will follow!
only things that will stop the human race breeding are nuclear war ,world famine, world plague, alien invasion!  | |
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| World population - NON QPR on 19:50 - Nov 7 with 974 views | DylanP |
| World population - NON QPR on 19:40 - Nov 7 by HollowayRanger |
when the fuels run out and the lights go out and the computers TV's ect stop working
what are us chaps going to find/do in the evenings to entertain us?
population rise will follow!
only things that will stop the human race breeding are nuclear war ,world famine, world plague, alien invasion! |
If his legs are apart and her legs are together, then you aint doing it right!!
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| World population - NON QPR on 20:01 - Nov 7 with 967 views | TheBlob |
| World population - NON QPR on 19:12 - Nov 7 by DylanP |
Wow, what a mixed bag on this thread
The human population of planet hit 1 billion in about 1815. By 1915, just hundred years later, it had hit 2 billion. The planet hit the 3 billion mark around 1945. We are now around 7 billion. Obviously, just looking at that trajectory the problem looks insurmountable. It becomes a terrifying prospect where people say things like 'we will be at 20 billion by next Tuesday' and so on.
However, the trajectory might be misleading. There is a direct correlation between poverty/wealth and family size. So as people get more affluent, family size goes down. That is why Northern European countries are experiencing population decline whereas most third world countries are experiencing rapid population increase. What that means is that as development continues, it is likely that family size will naturally decrease and the population increase will taper off. Of course, it all depends how quickly population increase tapers of.
I tend to think that the discussion of population increase is looking at things upside down. The way to bring down population growth is to bring up standards of living. This planet is not starved of resources. In fact, we have plenty. We just need to use them more wisely. There is already way more than enough food to feed everyone and yet 35 million people die every year from starvation and malnutrician. This planet has more sun, wind, and wave power than we could ever use and yet we use fossil fuels that pollute the planet, wreck the physical landscape and cause global warming.
The problems facing the planet are not caused by there being too many people on the planet, and they won't be solved by a slightly lower rate of population growth. They are caused by people (governments and citizens) making bad decisions on resource use and they will be solved by people making better decisions. |
I remember the furore when we hit the 2billion mark in the 1950's when I was a wee nipper.
The futurists were still optimistic,it was the age of the space race and the general feeling was we'd expand as race towards the stars and the population would be siphoned off..Then the reality hit.All these fine words about education and technology providing for everyone,and the figures continued to rise inexorably.Nothing is new,the eyes always fixed on a distant tantalisingly shiny horizon,while behind you there is a murmering and a muttering that slowly increases in volume. [Post edited 7 Nov 2014 20:02]
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