| Dunne off? on 02:07 - Feb 1 with 4713 views | PlanetHonneywood |
I'm of the district opinion that some on here think all QPR have to do is put a contract on the table and the player will sign it.
No other factors exist and if the player doesn't sign, then QPR must have cocked up. Doesn't matter if the player wants to go, has a better offer, a bigger club is interested, personal reasons, we can't afford his demands, etc. because such factors don't exist. Ever. It's only ever about what QPR want. |  |
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| Dunne off? on 02:46 - Feb 1 with 4616 views | SydneyRs |
| Dunne off? on 20:21 - Jan 31 by aston_hoop |
I agree re Postecoglou, I just think that was Spurs making another shocking decision blindsided by Celtic winning a mostly one team league comfortably. I was thinking more Man Utd, Arsenal etc as the step up though. Everton and West Ham are not really a step up for me from where those clubs are, in fact Silva has already managed Everton so there is that too. Newcastle will have their head in the stars for their next manager with their Saudi funding. These clubs could do a lot worse than trying them, but I don't think they will. |
I wouldn't write Postecoglu off yet, Spurs have been decimated by injuries for some time and yet the results are apparently all the manager's fault. |  | | |
| Dunne off? on 06:42 - Feb 1 with 4333 views | PlanetHonneywood |
| Dunne off? on 02:46 - Feb 1 by SydneyRs |
I wouldn't write Postecoglu off yet, Spurs have been decimated by injuries for some time and yet the results are apparently all the manager's fault. |
I don't follow the Prem enough. However, these injuries you refer to, are they caused by unforeseen in-game tackles etc. or are they muscular due to what they're doing in training and/or way they're playing?
If it's the former, then you'd have to look at the manager. Older dogs will recall we picked up a lot of injuries during Gerry Francis' first tenure which, as I recall, were blamed on 'Terror Tuesday '. | |
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| Dunne off? on 09:02 - Feb 1 with 3890 views | wortonr |
| Dunne off? on 06:42 - Feb 1 by PlanetHonneywood |
I don't follow the Prem enough. However, these injuries you refer to, are they caused by unforeseen in-game tackles etc. or are they muscular due to what they're doing in training and/or way they're playing?
If it's the former, then you'd have to look at the manager. Older dogs will recall we picked up a lot of injuries during Gerry Francis' first tenure which, as I recall, were blamed on 'Terror Tuesday '. |
So…if Jimmy does go, let’s have a dose of reality here. The reason we love him ( at the moment, remember last time at Millwall?) is his heart and dependability. We do base a lot of plays around him, but he’s not the Messiah. In fact, I don’t think he’s fully comfortable with the tippy tap stuff at the back. Surely if he goes on Monday the club will have already factored it in and gloom and doom today may turn to sunshine on Tuesday? | | | |
| Dunne off? on 09:27 - Feb 1 with 3643 views | gazza1 |
Dunne is not a particularly a good player, he lacks a lot of natural ability. His best asset is his attitude towards the game and QPR in particular - it is immense for the Team & Club and the players, he would be massive around the dressing room. He is far from being a Premiership player and imho he will not play much Premiership football - he does not have the necessary talents.
If we get a bid in of around £2 million he will be out of the door. A shame but we would not be able to let that money go when his contract expires soon.
What I hope is the Club sorts it out 'one way or the other' today/tomorrow in order that we can get a decent RB into the Club before deadline (& we should already have players on the list to make bids for!!!). It should not be too difficult to ask Dunne what he wants to sign a new contract and if he doesn't commit or we cannot commit to his demands then he should be sold. Lets just sort it out FFS.
BTW, I really do not want him to leave.....more than any other player.......if he does leave then good luck to him, he is proper and life & work is about choices. [Post edited 1 Feb 9:30]
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| Dunne off? on 09:34 - Feb 1 with 3601 views | GaryHaddock |
| Dunne off? on 09:27 - Feb 1 by gazza1 |
Dunne is not a particularly a good player, he lacks a lot of natural ability. His best asset is his attitude towards the game and QPR in particular - it is immense for the Team & Club and the players, he would be massive around the dressing room. He is far from being a Premiership player and imho he will not play much Premiership football - he does not have the necessary talents.
If we get a bid in of around £2 million he will be out of the door. A shame but we would not be able to let that money go when his contract expires soon.
What I hope is the Club sorts it out 'one way or the other' today/tomorrow in order that we can get a decent RB into the Club before deadline (& we should already have players on the list to make bids for!!!). It should not be too difficult to ask Dunne what he wants to sign a new contract and if he doesn't commit or we cannot commit to his demands then he should be sold. Lets just sort it out FFS.
BTW, I really do not want him to leave.....more than any other player.......if he does leave then good luck to him, he is proper and life & work is about choices. [Post edited 1 Feb 9:30]
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Disagree about the ability quote.
It’s an old trope we like to throw around about British & Irish players sometimes, especially CBs. Someone said it about Cook too recently which made me raise an eyebrow. It something we need to get over as a nation. Those days are gone.
His balllplaying is fine. Can’t remember him giving too many balls away. He was brought in by Warburton who didn’t sign players who couldn’t distribute. [Post edited 1 Feb 9:47]
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| Dunne off? on 09:47 - Feb 1 with 3483 views | gazza1 |
| Dunne off? on 09:34 - Feb 1 by GaryHaddock |
Disagree about the ability quote.
It’s an old trope we like to throw around about British & Irish players sometimes, especially CBs. Someone said it about Cook too recently which made me raise an eyebrow. It something we need to get over as a nation. Those days are gone.
His balllplaying is fine. Can’t remember him giving too many balls away. He was brought in by Warburton who didn’t sign players who couldn’t distribute. [Post edited 1 Feb 9:47]
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He has limited skills for sure despite what you think. His first touch is inconsistent and it needs to improve improve - compare his control to Paal, there is no comparison. Look at Premiership players, miles ahead. It is nothing to do with nationalities either, I do not care if they come from Timbucktoo!!! Dunne is all about 'blood & thrust'.....and it is brilliant for us where we currently stand.
Not interested in Cook but his control of a football is better then Dunne. [Post edited 1 Feb 9:48]
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| Dunne off? on 09:50 - Feb 1 with 3463 views | GaryHaddock |
| Dunne off? on 09:47 - Feb 1 by gazza1 |
He has limited skills for sure despite what you think. His first touch is inconsistent and it needs to improve improve - compare his control to Paal, there is no comparison. Look at Premiership players, miles ahead. It is nothing to do with nationalities either, I do not care if they come from Timbucktoo!!! Dunne is all about 'blood & thrust'.....and it is brilliant for us where we currently stand.
Not interested in Cook but his control of a football is better then Dunne. [Post edited 1 Feb 9:48]
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‘He has limited skills for sure despite what you think’
Well Man United, Burnley, and Mark Warburton also thought it so I’m in decent company. | | | |
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| Dunne off? on 10:05 - Feb 1 with 3315 views | gazza1 |
| Dunne off? on 09:50 - Feb 1 by GaryHaddock |
‘He has limited skills for sure despite what you think’
Well Man United, Burnley, and Mark Warburton also thought it so I’m in decent company. |
Decent company, what decent company???
Man Utd & Burnley didnt want him, Warburton is an average Manager (done nothing basically) although I like him. [Post edited 1 Feb 10:06]
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| Dunne off? on 10:06 - Feb 1 with 3306 views | ngbqpr |
Still think long term Jimmy is not Marti's ideal RB (and others are ahead of him in the CB line if all fit). He clearly (a) has huge respect for him as he has frequently lavished praise on him; and (b) sees him as the lynchpin when we have to 'go pragmatic'. But as we reach the sunlit uplands of midtable and a 2 mill bid comes in for a player who's OOC at the end of the season - well, what are we gonna do?
In the summer, Sinclair's one year option was triggered with a one sentence announcement from the club and nothing from the man himself. This screamed, he wants out, we want to make sure we get some cash.
By contrast, the announcement announcing Jimmy's similar extension was a two-way love-in. However, as it was just triggering the option rather than extending the deal, it seemed pretty clear there were honest discussions going on between both parties as to whether they wanted to do that...with Marti's longer term plans for style of play should he ever manage to reach the 'post-pragmatism' era central to that, I suspect.
But like everyone else on here, I'm guessing tbh. |  |
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| Dunne off? on 10:12 - Feb 1 with 3231 views | lassel |
| Dunne off? on 19:38 - Jan 31 by Match82 |
Nobody should or will begrudge him a move to a top division side somewhere (PL or abroad) but I'd hope that he'd at least think twice if another championship side came in for him. Money talks ultimately of course. |
He spent much of last summer trying to get the Burnley and Sunderland jobs… | | | |
| Dunne off? on 10:16 - Feb 1 with 3192 views | connell10 |
I'll be glad when Jimmy is sorted out either way as to be honest this thread is really getting on my tits !!!! |  |
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| Dunne off? on 10:18 - Feb 1 with 3173 views | ngbqpr |
| Dunne off? on 10:12 - Feb 1 by lassel |
He spent much of last summer trying to get the Burnley and Sunderland jobs… |
You're on a roll both here and the Santos / Kakay thread... | |
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| Dunne off? on 10:23 - Feb 1 with 3145 views | GaryHaddock |
| Dunne off? on 10:16 - Feb 1 by connell10 |
I'll be glad when Jimmy is sorted out either way as to be honest this thread is really getting on my tits !!!! |
Christian Nourry is going to look like a saint if he announces he signed a new contract today isn’t he! | | | |
| Dunne off? on 10:25 - Feb 1 with 3116 views | GaryHaddock |
| Dunne off? on 10:06 - Feb 1 by ngbqpr |
Still think long term Jimmy is not Marti's ideal RB (and others are ahead of him in the CB line if all fit). He clearly (a) has huge respect for him as he has frequently lavished praise on him; and (b) sees him as the lynchpin when we have to 'go pragmatic'. But as we reach the sunlit uplands of midtable and a 2 mill bid comes in for a player who's OOC at the end of the season - well, what are we gonna do?
In the summer, Sinclair's one year option was triggered with a one sentence announcement from the club and nothing from the man himself. This screamed, he wants out, we want to make sure we get some cash.
By contrast, the announcement announcing Jimmy's similar extension was a two-way love-in. However, as it was just triggering the option rather than extending the deal, it seemed pretty clear there were honest discussions going on between both parties as to whether they wanted to do that...with Marti's longer term plans for style of play should he ever manage to reach the 'post-pragmatism' era central to that, I suspect.
But like everyone else on here, I'm guessing tbh. |
Agree.
It’s fun to guess though! That’s why most of us are here.
I often find the truth disappointing. [Post edited 1 Feb 10:26]
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| Dunne off? on 10:43 - Feb 1 with 2984 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| Dunne off? on 10:18 - Feb 1 by ngbqpr |
You're on a roll both here and the Santos / Kakay thread... |
Don’t you know he’s IN THE KNOW. |  | | |
| Dunne off? on 11:18 - Feb 1 with 2757 views | WestonsuperR |
| Dunne off? on 00:15 - Feb 1 by R_from_afar |
We're six points plus goal difference off the play-offs, with 51 points to play for. We have an outside chance, note, outside.
Given the way the S & P rules and parachute payments load the dice against us, that isn't going to happen often.
Dunne is a key member of the starting eleven and this squad has shown in recent weeks that it could, without any additions, have a real tilt at the play-offs. Note: Could.
Unless Dunne himself wants to move or we are being offered mega bucks - way north of £2m - shouldn't we reject all offers?
We might have to wait years to be in this position again. You know what we're like, we're never far away from a crisis.
People said go for it in the FA cup, fine, but with all the riches and stockpiled talent in the Prem, it's becoming close to impossible to win a cup unless you're in the top division.
Unless our player development and/or income improve exponentially, our circumstances and prospects now are pretty much what they're always going to be. We need to be in the Prem in order to be self-sustaining.
Deep breath: So all that being said, shouldn't we strain every sinew to keep him and go for promotion?
Now you watch everything blow up in my stupid face.  [Post edited 1 Feb 0:18]
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The risk with rejecting all offers is the 2M we get now rather than 0 in the Summer.
We are 150/1 for promotion with Sky Bet which says everything you need to know about our chances for the remainder of the season. |  | | |
| Dunne off? on 11:22 - Feb 1 with 2709 views | WestonsuperR |
| Dunne off? on 02:07 - Feb 1 by PlanetHonneywood |
I'm of the district opinion that some on here think all QPR have to do is put a contract on the table and the player will sign it.
No other factors exist and if the player doesn't sign, then QPR must have cocked up. Doesn't matter if the player wants to go, has a better offer, a bigger club is interested, personal reasons, we can't afford his demands, etc. because such factors don't exist. Ever. It's only ever about what QPR want. |
Totally agree, even worse on social media. How do we know we haven’t been offering a fantastic contract to Jimmy and he’s taken the decision to refuse and look for a larger team with better salary, don’t blame him either. | | | |
| Dunne off? on 11:23 - Feb 1 with 2692 views | hantssi |
| Dunne off? on 10:12 - Feb 1 by lassel |
He spent much of last summer trying to get the Burnley and Sunderland jobs… |
Are you some sort of Super Agent?!
You must be if you know all this as fact, same as Kakay on the Santos thread! | | | |
| Dunne off? on 11:47 - Feb 1 with 2476 views | connell10 |
| Dunne off? on 10:23 - Feb 1 by GaryHaddock |
Christian Nourry is going to look like a saint if he announces he signed a new contract today isn’t he! |
Personally I'd like to kick him in the plums. | |
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| Dunne off? on 14:01 - Feb 1 with 1711 views | A40Bosh |
Must be gone. |  |
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| Dunne off? on 14:02 - Feb 1 with 1662 views | R_from_afar |
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| "Things had started becoming increasingly desperate at Loftus Road but QPR have been handed a massive lifeline and the place has absolutely erupted. it's carnage. It's bedlam. It's 1-1." |
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| Dunne off? on 14:04 - Feb 1 with 1600 views | mart_Goblin |
He gawn |  | | |
| Dunne off? on 14:04 - Feb 1 with 1574 views | connell10 |
| Dunne off? on 14:01 - Feb 1 by A40Bosh |
Must be gone. |
Really surprised at that, hopefully Sheffield utd crash and burn. | |
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| Dunne off? on 14:05 - Feb 1 with 1522 views | dmm |
I hope we will be told how much we get and that's around the £2m mark. |  | | |
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