| Bristol City Match Fred 14:59 - Dec 1 with 41504 views | TheChef |
Fully expecting a defeat, but hope we can put in a decent performance over 90 minutes and get our reward for it. |  |
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| Bristol City Match Fred on 09:13 - Dec 2 with 1643 views | dm97 |
| Bristol City Match Fred on 08:23 - Dec 2 by Hunterhoop |
That’s a straw man post, Antti.
None of those are arguments against points I raised. I said Warburton was important to Eze’s development. I just don’t credit him with making him a £20m player. I think it likely he’d have become that anyway and certainly with other coaches too.
I’m never said he had a better squad or more resources than Warnock. I just said Warnock won ugly many a time. Warburton doesn’t appear to know how to.
I won’t go repeating myself on all the points I’ve made already suffice to reiterate: I am NOT yet calling for a managerial change. I am merely making a case that it is no longer a discussion that should be seen as moronic to have. It’s a valid conversation now. If our obvious issues persist and we go on a poor run, then you will reach a point where it has to happen. Relegation this year should not even be a consideration given how weak the league is.
Cider makes a very good point about who would come to work here, suggesting the best we could get would be worse than we have. A very wise point. And I truly don’t know who would be interested in the job. Not many funds, a club a bit stuck, expectations...but equally a team will lots of talented, if naive, young players. As far as I know Paul Cool and Nigel Pearson remains available. The latter is proven at this level; the former did a great job with Wigan. I’m sure there are others. Whether they would want to come here, I’ve no idea, but I don’t think it’s quite as bad a candidate pool as some think.
But as I said, I want Warburton to be given more time, but not indefinitely, certainly not until the end of season regardless of league position. He needs to start addressing issues and delivering results, not build up play, now. If a team has a bad Dec this year, they’ll be in the bottom 3. This is a team that concedes a lot and is soft. Getting out of the bottom 3, once in there, may be price difficult it us. |
Completely agree this isn't a point of discussion to be dismissed as negative 'wind-up-merchantry' anymore.
When does his contract expire? I recall he was given a two year deal, although I could be mistaken. In any case, I dont think anyone here seriosuly thinks we will ever be challenging at the top end of this league under Warbs? His defensive record is clear and in fairness to him top 6 was never the brief when appointed.
Moving on to someone else at the end of this season - should we be where we are now (which I think we will be) - wouldnt be a failure/McClaren-esque waste of a year given the development of Eze, Chair, Bright (despite contract chess), Dickie (probably), Kakay, NH, Dieng etcetera.
Managers and clubs can come to an amicable parting of ways naturally - revolutionary i know. I have a feeling this might happen with Warbs and that isnt a totally bad thing |  | | |
| Bristol City Match Fred on 09:14 - Dec 2 with 1642 views | davman |
| Bristol City Match Fred on 08:29 - Dec 2 by daveB |
It won't happen for a variety of reasons but one player who I think would transform this team is Ben Pearson, a horrible player but very good on the ball and adds some steel into the team. |
Warnock bought in Derry and Hill as these "nasty" characters to give us a backbone; feels like someone similar like Pearson would go a long way to correct the tippy tappy wiffy waffy personnel we have. For all his hype, yet to see Dykes terrify opponents and whilst physically dominant Dickie isn't someone to "fear" like (for example) that Macfadzen (or however you spell it).
We are far too nice across the pitch and need some steel. |  |
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| Bristol City Match Fred on 09:52 - Dec 2 with 1540 views | ted_hendrix |
Just another miserable morning after the night before, same old stories same old results same bloody excuses, same old what if this what if that?
Check in here at about 5.00pm Saturday after the Huddersfield game and we can do it all again because nothing will change.
Thank f uck we managed to hang on against Rotherham last Tuesday eh?
We'll just continue letting in 2 goals per game in the vain hope that eventually we'll start scoring 3 goals per game and actually start winning games for once, (scoring 3 goals per game-LOL) sorry got a bit carried away there.
Then of course there's always the possibility that one day on a football field far--far away we'll actually manage to concentrate and play football for a whole 90 odd minutes instead of the usual 40 minutes that we currently only seem to be able to manage. |  |
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| Bristol City Match Fred on 10:19 - Dec 2 with 1469 views | EGRanger |
| Bristol City Match Fred on 00:39 - Dec 2 by gigiisourgod |
Think it would be absolutely nonsensical to get rid of Warburton and am amazed it is even a topic of discussion. Think we are very lucky to have him and certainly believe we are heading in the right direction. |
Great post - some of the negative posts on here are ridiculous.
We simply have to get behind our manager who is putting together an entertaining team on a relative shoe string budget - we lost our top three strikers from last season.
I hope the lucky 2000 who get in enjoy the games.
We played so well in the first half last night and we could so easily have been four goals to the good. |  | | |
| Bristol City Match Fred on 10:45 - Dec 2 with 1421 views | Watford_Ranger |
| Bristol City Match Fred on 09:13 - Dec 2 by dm97 |
Completely agree this isn't a point of discussion to be dismissed as negative 'wind-up-merchantry' anymore.
When does his contract expire? I recall he was given a two year deal, although I could be mistaken. In any case, I dont think anyone here seriosuly thinks we will ever be challenging at the top end of this league under Warbs? His defensive record is clear and in fairness to him top 6 was never the brief when appointed.
Moving on to someone else at the end of this season - should we be where we are now (which I think we will be) - wouldnt be a failure/McClaren-esque waste of a year given the development of Eze, Chair, Bright (despite contract chess), Dickie (probably), Kakay, NH, Dieng etcetera.
Managers and clubs can come to an amicable parting of ways naturally - revolutionary i know. I have a feeling this might happen with Warbs and that isnt a totally bad thing |
I guess he’d argue, perhaps incorrectly perhaps not, this is a team that should improve. From that XI only Wallace is on the decline and he’s not first choice now. To have a team mostly under 26 is a good thing but creates short term problems that come with inexperience.
I don’t think I’d miss Warburton if he was let go but I do think he’s building towards something good albeit slowly. | | | |
| Bristol City Match Fred on 10:47 - Dec 2 with 1415 views | WokingR |
| Bristol City Match Fred on 10:19 - Dec 2 by EGRanger |
Great post - some of the negative posts on here are ridiculous.
We simply have to get behind our manager who is putting together an entertaining team on a relative shoe string budget - we lost our top three strikers from last season.
I hope the lucky 2000 who get in enjoy the games.
We played so well in the first half last night and we could so easily have been four goals to the good. |
I'm just hoping that the majority of the 2000 who get in are actually supporters and I mean that in the true sense of the word. With such a small number in the ground there is a lot of responsibility on them to drive the team on.
A lot of our fanbase now seem to prefer to see themselves as critics and god help us if they make up the majority of the 2000 ! |  | | |
| Bristol City Match Fred on 10:52 - Dec 2 with 1400 views | Northernr |
| Bristol City Match Fred on 09:14 - Dec 2 by davman |
Warnock bought in Derry and Hill as these "nasty" characters to give us a backbone; feels like someone similar like Pearson would go a long way to correct the tippy tappy wiffy waffy personnel we have. For all his hype, yet to see Dykes terrify opponents and whilst physically dominant Dickie isn't someone to "fear" like (for example) that Macfadzen (or however you spell it).
We are far too nice across the pitch and need some steel. |
Come on, I know we're all pissd off but Macfadzean's a clogger, Coventry have the worst defence in the league, conceding even more than our apparently relegation bound (again) lot. I've liked what I've seen of Dickie, though it was a bad error last night and his head does seem to go after he makes a mistake. |  | | |
| Bristol City Match Fred on 10:54 - Dec 2 with 1396 views | kernowhoop |
Here is what one Bristol City fan had to say on 'One Team in Bristol'. He confuses 'of' with 'have' and refers to 'impotence' when I think he meant 'potency', but, in respect of last night's match, he seems to concur with the thinking of many here.
Maybe we are not alone. In the Championship there can be very few teams who are playing as well as we would like ours to be playing.
We could of scored a few more yes, but let's not pretend it was a defensive masterclass. We were outplayed that first half, and just because we won doesn't mean we cannot look at where to improve.
I don't understand why OTIB people cannot criticise after a win without being called Gas? Last night was dire at times.
Last night was the 3rd game on the spin where we haven't played well. We didn't deserve 3 points if we were all honest, a draw probably was a fairer result.
We've been let off by Watford and QPR for not having clinical strikers. We do need to improve defensively, whilst not resorting fully to a back 5 as we lose all attacking impotence when that happens.
I haven't enjoyed a lot of the resent performances, probably the last 5 or 6 games. Yes I'm happy for the results, of course I am, but do we look like a team worthy of 3rd place? No.
The whole league has been poor this season, but if we don't start to up our performances then we will get caught in the second half. And yes I am conscious we have had a lot of injuries, but my comment is purely based on this defensive counter attacking football which I just don't enjoy watching to be honest. Lets hope things change, but at least we are on a good points base to kick on.[i/] | | | |
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| Bristol City Match Fred on 11:17 - Dec 2 with 1339 views | Watford_Ranger |
| Bristol City Match Fred on 10:47 - Dec 2 by WokingR |
I'm just hoping that the majority of the 2000 who get in are actually supporters and I mean that in the true sense of the word. With such a small number in the ground there is a lot of responsibility on them to drive the team on.
A lot of our fanbase now seem to prefer to see themselves as critics and god help us if they make up the majority of the 2000 ! |
The small crowd allowed in to Northern Ireland’s matches made a real racket.
It’s a shame the Loft won’t be open but a few vocal people in a mostly empty School End could sound like a lot more.
Isn’t singing banned though? | | | |
| Bristol City Match Fred on 11:21 - Dec 2 with 1325 views | makaveli1882 |
#QPR have won 17 points from 15 games this season - their lowest return at this stage of a Championship campaign since 2007-08 (15 pts). | | | |
| Bristol City Match Fred on 11:21 - Dec 2 with 1324 views | ozexile |
| Bristol City Match Fred on 10:54 - Dec 2 by kernowhoop |
Here is what one Bristol City fan had to say on 'One Team in Bristol'. He confuses 'of' with 'have' and refers to 'impotence' when I think he meant 'potency', but, in respect of last night's match, he seems to concur with the thinking of many here.
Maybe we are not alone. In the Championship there can be very few teams who are playing as well as we would like ours to be playing.
We could of scored a few more yes, but let's not pretend it was a defensive masterclass. We were outplayed that first half, and just because we won doesn't mean we cannot look at where to improve.
I don't understand why OTIB people cannot criticise after a win without being called Gas? Last night was dire at times.
Last night was the 3rd game on the spin where we haven't played well. We didn't deserve 3 points if we were all honest, a draw probably was a fairer result.
We've been let off by Watford and QPR for not having clinical strikers. We do need to improve defensively, whilst not resorting fully to a back 5 as we lose all attacking impotence when that happens.
I haven't enjoyed a lot of the resent performances, probably the last 5 or 6 games. Yes I'm happy for the results, of course I am, but do we look like a team worthy of 3rd place? No.
The whole league has been poor this season, but if we don't start to up our performances then we will get caught in the second half. And yes I am conscious we have had a lot of injuries, but my comment is purely based on this defensive counter attacking football which I just don't enjoy watching to be honest. Lets hope things change, but at least we are on a good points base to kick on.[i/] |
I agree with his point about the league being poor. That Coventry team were woeful.
If you've got a semi good keeper. A centre back who can head it, a midfielder who can go box to box and a striker who can win the ball in the air you could be touching play offs this season in my opinion. | | | |
| Bristol City Match Fred on 11:27 - Dec 2 with 1309 views | TacticalR |
That Bristol City fan perspective that they didn't play well is interesting.
I was wondering if Bristol City had deliberately rope-a-doped us and then hit us on the break, but he doesn't see it like that. |  |
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| Bristol City Match Fred on 11:30 - Dec 2 with 1298 views | Hunterhoop |
| Bristol City Match Fred on 10:47 - Dec 2 by WokingR |
I'm just hoping that the majority of the 2000 who get in are actually supporters and I mean that in the true sense of the word. With such a small number in the ground there is a lot of responsibility on them to drive the team on.
A lot of our fanbase now seem to prefer to see themselves as critics and god help us if they make up the majority of the 2000 ! |
I find this sort of tone annoying and it misses the point.
I’m a ST. I’ll be in the ballot. I’ll attend and I’ll support the team and Warburton. I desperately want him to make this work and succeed. I think this team can be very good!
But that doesn’t mean he’s free from criticism on here, especially reasoned, balanced criticism. Nor that a discussion on whether a change of manager may be beneficial/necessary now or in future is unfair.
Just because someone thinks we should stick with him for the very long term, doesn’t mean it’s beyond reproach. What is wrong with questioning whether that’s the right course of action?
I’m want him to succeed, but believe we are underperforming this season. I think the discussion is a reasonable one to have. It’s far from ridiculous.
And you can still have the discussion and fervently support the team and manager. |  | | |
| Bristol City Match Fred on 11:44 - Dec 2 with 1270 views | flynnbo |
| Bristol City Match Fred on 11:17 - Dec 2 by Watford_Ranger |
The small crowd allowed in to Northern Ireland’s matches made a real racket.
It’s a shame the Loft won’t be open but a few vocal people in a mostly empty School End could sound like a lot more.
Isn’t singing banned though? |
With face masks and gloves, we can make a real dull sound!! |  | | |
| Bristol City Match Fred on 11:48 - Dec 2 with 1259 views | Mick_S |
| Bristol City Match Fred on 11:27 - Dec 2 by TacticalR |
That Bristol City fan perspective that they didn't play well is interesting.
I was wondering if Bristol City had deliberately rope-a-doped us and then hit us on the break, but he doesn't see it like that. |
No chance, mate. We pulled them apart for most of the first 45. I understand the rest! |  |
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| Bristol City Match Fred on 12:19 - Dec 2 with 1211 views | dm97 |
| Bristol City Match Fred on 11:30 - Dec 2 by Hunterhoop |
I find this sort of tone annoying and it misses the point.
I’m a ST. I’ll be in the ballot. I’ll attend and I’ll support the team and Warburton. I desperately want him to make this work and succeed. I think this team can be very good!
But that doesn’t mean he’s free from criticism on here, especially reasoned, balanced criticism. Nor that a discussion on whether a change of manager may be beneficial/necessary now or in future is unfair.
Just because someone thinks we should stick with him for the very long term, doesn’t mean it’s beyond reproach. What is wrong with questioning whether that’s the right course of action?
I’m want him to succeed, but believe we are underperforming this season. I think the discussion is a reasonable one to have. It’s far from ridiculous.
And you can still have the discussion and fervently support the team and manager. |
The entrenchment of having to be either Absolutely Waburton Out or Absolutely Warburton In, no matter the evidence on display, seems more of a representation of society than our fanbase specifically IMO. | | | |
| Bristol City Match Fred on 12:24 - Dec 2 with 1186 views | Northernr |
I repeat myself but if we're going to start considering who and what is next...
- We keep sacking the manager, things don't improve, it suggests the manager isn't your issue. The budget, wage structure, scouting, recruitment and squad would all be the same.
- Who would want to come here, who we can afford? Eddie Howe is not going to shag you. You're going to end up with somebody who's out of work probably - because we wont want to pay compo and if you're in a job it would have to be pretty bad for you to want to come here - mid-season, cheap, and desperate. That's not an attractive list. Luckily Steve Cotterill just got the Shrewsbury job, but we'd be looking at that level.
- If you want it to be a big departure from Warbs, go back to old school, big bstrds, backbone, arm wrestle etc. This squad is not built for it. There isn't a single player in it that somebody like Pulis would give the time of day. Tear it all up and go down that road, you're looking at another 12-in and out for the next two or three windows, and all the expence and upheaval and problems that's going to entail. Meanwhile, midway through, we'll probably decide we're bored, and want to go for a more progressive, forward thinking, better football style manager which would require another pivot mid-pivot.
- Look for another progressive type to continue 'the journey' and what would really change?
- "Oh clive don't pretend there are only five managers in the whole world, it's an attractive job, if Swansea can get a Steve Cooper why can't we?" Fair enough. At what point under this ownership and management structure have we ever seen any ability to go out and talent scout a manager you haven't heard of before?
Consider the alternatives. It's got to be somebody who wants to come and work with this squad, on one of the worst budgets in the division, who we can afford, and it's our board and management doing the spotting. | | | |
| Bristol City Match Fred on 12:37 - Dec 2 with 1130 views | Hunterhoop |
Very reasoned, Clive. All valid points.
I certainly would want to “continue the journey” as you put it, if we reach the point of being in the bottom 3 and a change being made. I would want the new man to keep the style/approach, just make the fixes and incremental improvements that should be feasible but aren’t being made (yet). A complete change in approach would be madness and fail with the squad available and the pipeline of talent we produce from the youth set up.
Who that would be, I don’t know. But neither you nor me work in football recruitment, nor are we being paid to recruit or even succession plan, so I don’t think we should allow our board/mgt the wiggle room to say such a candidate doesn’t exist. Brentford went from Warburton to Smith to Frank and, broadly speaking, kept the club ethos/approach, style of football, and kept improving...
It’s not impossible. Let’s not get defeatist about it, should we reach the point we’re faced with relegation or a change. | | | |
| Bristol City Match Fred on 12:39 - Dec 2 with 1119 views | Rs_Holy |
| Bristol City Match Fred on 12:24 - Dec 2 by Northernr |
I repeat myself but if we're going to start considering who and what is next...
- We keep sacking the manager, things don't improve, it suggests the manager isn't your issue. The budget, wage structure, scouting, recruitment and squad would all be the same.
- Who would want to come here, who we can afford? Eddie Howe is not going to shag you. You're going to end up with somebody who's out of work probably - because we wont want to pay compo and if you're in a job it would have to be pretty bad for you to want to come here - mid-season, cheap, and desperate. That's not an attractive list. Luckily Steve Cotterill just got the Shrewsbury job, but we'd be looking at that level.
- If you want it to be a big departure from Warbs, go back to old school, big bstrds, backbone, arm wrestle etc. This squad is not built for it. There isn't a single player in it that somebody like Pulis would give the time of day. Tear it all up and go down that road, you're looking at another 12-in and out for the next two or three windows, and all the expence and upheaval and problems that's going to entail. Meanwhile, midway through, we'll probably decide we're bored, and want to go for a more progressive, forward thinking, better football style manager which would require another pivot mid-pivot.
- Look for another progressive type to continue 'the journey' and what would really change?
- "Oh clive don't pretend there are only five managers in the whole world, it's an attractive job, if Swansea can get a Steve Cooper why can't we?" Fair enough. At what point under this ownership and management structure have we ever seen any ability to go out and talent scout a manager you haven't heard of before?
Consider the alternatives. It's got to be somebody who wants to come and work with this squad, on one of the worst budgets in the division, who we can afford, and it's our board and management doing the spotting. |
Exactly how I feel summed up perfectly ... thanks Clive! [Post edited 2 Dec 2020 12:40]
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| Bristol City Match Fred on 12:41 - Dec 2 with 1110 views | ted_hendrix |
Gotta say that since last night and today all I've seen pretty much is decent/balanced posting from the majority if not all posters.
Unless I'm missing something nobody is asking for the Manager to be shown the door? criticism yes and he's certainly not above criticism.
Everyone is pissed off, that wont change until we get a win but for my money I've not got a lot of confidence in that happening unfortunately.
Can't honestly say when the last time was when I thought one of these days we're gonna batter somebody, maybe if we can play good consistently for about 90 odd minutes? | |
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| Bristol City Match Fred on 12:42 - Dec 2 with 1109 views | Northernr |
| Bristol City Match Fred on 12:37 - Dec 2 by Hunterhoop |
Very reasoned, Clive. All valid points.
I certainly would want to “continue the journey” as you put it, if we reach the point of being in the bottom 3 and a change being made. I would want the new man to keep the style/approach, just make the fixes and incremental improvements that should be feasible but aren’t being made (yet). A complete change in approach would be madness and fail with the squad available and the pipeline of talent we produce from the youth set up.
Who that would be, I don’t know. But neither you nor me work in football recruitment, nor are we being paid to recruit or even succession plan, so I don’t think we should allow our board/mgt the wiggle room to say such a candidate doesn’t exist. Brentford went from Warburton to Smith to Frank and, broadly speaking, kept the club ethos/approach, style of football, and kept improving...
It’s not impossible. Let’s not get defeatist about it, should we reach the point we’re faced with relegation or a change. |
I'm not saying it is impossible, nor that the candidate doesn't exist, I'm saying why would said candidate really want to take this job if they were any good, and when has our club ever given you the indication that they would find and appoint him? That's not defeatist, that's realistic about where we are and who's in charge. | | | |
| Bristol City Match Fred on 12:45 - Dec 2 with 1095 views | R_from_afar |
| Bristol City Match Fred on 23:06 - Dec 1 by Hunterhoop |
Three things Antti.
1) in any walk of life, you don’t wait to be in “dire straits” before making a change. You change to prevent finding yourself in such problems. To wait to be in such a situation is, objectively and all logical reasoning, ludicrous. Unless your purpose is being a 100% justified/correct in making your decision. But that is pride and ego dominating. Better to risk getting a decision wrong (if the risk is relatively low) than wait until the situation demands it. Prevention over treatment.
2) We were excellent but infuriating in the first 40. Wonderful build up play but poor final ball and finishing. Forgive me, but what is the aim in football? Score; don’t concede. Wonderful build up play is a “lovely to have”, it is not a must have. We won very ugly under Warnock in many an occasion, home and away, but we loved it, the fans loved it, the ground was full. Results drive football and a clubs direction, not build up play. The ship is sailing of build up play being relevant to the direction of QPR anymore. It has a shelf life because of its promise of results to come. If sustained results don’t materialise, what are you buying?
3) I’ve been defending the club’s strategy and approach for years, on here, in the ground and in the pub, to anyone that will listen. You know this. But there comes a point where the ship has been righted and you look ahead and say “right, what next? Where are we headed?” No one should want to stand still this season, especially. The league is sh*t. We’ve outplayed for large chunks Watford, Bournemouth, Brentford and Bristol City. Who is there to be scared off? We have Wednesday with a points deduction. We have Forest and Derby in a mess. We have Wycombe, Barnsley, Rotherham, Luton and Coventry in the league. All far lower budgets. It’s the weakest Championship for decades. THE WHOLE POINT of the strategy the last 5 years was to take advantage of when this came to pass because we were ahead of the curve in righting our ship. That doesn’t mean go up straight away, of course not. But we absolutely should be moving in the right direction on the pitch now comparative to everyone else. I’m not sure we are. 17 points from 15 says we’re in for a relegation battle. And I don’t think the fault likes with Hoos, Ferdinand or Ramsey because the recruitment and talent development have largely been good, because we clearly CAN play well and these players don’t look out of their depth. Far from it.
I am far from a reactionary. I’ve backed prudence for the last 5 seasons, but at some point you have to actually seek to progress.
You don’t wait to nailed on for relegation, when you should be improving on last year as the league around you weakens. You act swiftly.
I don’t think the time has come yet, but I don’t think it’s too far away if results and the same issues persist. |
Good points but re. point 2, whilst I personally am not a "purist" and am not fussed about how we play as long as it is effective - I am not bothered if all our goals come from headers by a 6 foot 6 striker who is imperious in the air but couldn't dribble round a traffic cone - a lot of people are and want success and style all at once. That's their perogative.
So, I am with you on this but I suspect others may agree now but be unhappy if we start playing pragmatic football and grinding out wins. |  |
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| Bristol City Match Fred on 12:47 - Dec 2 with 1086 views | CiderwithRsie |
I think it's been a good discussion with sound points made on both sides.
I'm with Clive on the flaws in sacking Warburton but I think we can all see the both the positives and the problems with him, it is about what tools we have to fix it.
Buying a couple of key players might do it, but I doubt we have the funds.
Sacking managers always disrupts and IMO should only be done if either the alternative is near-certain relegation or as part of a plan (i.e. in the close season, after a proper recruitment process started well before the last guy leaves.)
IMO what we should be doing is performance managing Warburton - the DoF ought to be demanding specific improvements and a clear plan to address them, with due notice that failure to make progress before the end of the season is likely to end with dismissal. And probably we ought to be quietly thinking about alternatives if he doesn't improve.
So long as we don't get relegated we would be in a better position to recruit if he completes this season because we will look a better employer and we'll also benefit from the good stuff Warburton does in the meantime. I think our relative financial positron is also slowly improving (if only because everyone else is getting worse faster) | | | |
| Bristol City Match Fred on 12:47 - Dec 2 with 1086 views | Gloucs_R |
Forget wages. Do we have a squad that is better than Luton, wall, Preston, Reading, Barnsley and Huddersfield?
If yes, then we are underperforming. If no, then we are in the right place.
I'm not sure we are going to depart with Warburton until the summer unless we are heading into the bottom 5 and relegation is a possibility.
maybe Warburton is the problem but I have very little confidence in the coaching team around him, people like Eustace are yet to make any real impact that we can see. Maybe someone like Clint Hill as his assistant manager would be better. Someone who understands the club but more importantly understands how to defend and grind out a result. |  |
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| Bristol City Match Fred on 12:49 - Dec 2 with 1067 views | Northernr |
| Bristol City Match Fred on 12:47 - Dec 2 by Gloucs_R |
Forget wages. Do we have a squad that is better than Luton, wall, Preston, Reading, Barnsley and Huddersfield?
If yes, then we are underperforming. If no, then we are in the right place.
I'm not sure we are going to depart with Warburton until the summer unless we are heading into the bottom 5 and relegation is a possibility.
maybe Warburton is the problem but I have very little confidence in the coaching team around him, people like Eustace are yet to make any real impact that we can see. Maybe someone like Clint Hill as his assistant manager would be better. Someone who understands the club but more importantly understands how to defend and grind out a result. |
Like Marc Bircham? | | | |
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