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Thank goodness it's over......? 16:55 - Jul 14 with 7825 views

Well beaten today.......Belgium are much better than us but we are emerging.

Our forwards were poor today (except Cheeky Loftus)

Get them back home and rebuild

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Thank goodness it's over......? on 17:00 - Jul 14 with 4439 views

442Dale

Do not understand why they persisted with Kane. Never has a World Cup had a less deserving winner of the Golden Boot.

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Thank goodness it's over......? on 17:10 - Jul 14 with 4404 views

James1980

Unless the attitude was the same in Belgium. I think the it's a dead rubber, waste of time, who cares attitude of the nation, we did not deserve to win

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Thank goodness it's over......? on 17:21 - Jul 14 with 4385 views

Yorkshire_Dale

Thank goodness it's over......? on 17:00 - Jul 14 by 442Dale
Do not understand why they persisted with Kane. Never has a World Cup had a less deserving winner of the Golden Boot.

There was no way Sir Gareth was going to take off Kane (in pursuit of the Boot) even though he was poo......would Danny Well-wide have done any better, I fear not. Sterling's hold up play was shocking and rightly subbed (it's true what Vinny Jones said midweek,if he didn't have pace, Sterling would be playing for Exeter City)

Our best chance of a goal was our defenders getting on the end of a set piece....unfortunately best chances fell to Dier,who lived up to his name.

Thank goodness it's over......? on 19:44 - Jul 14 with 4245 views

ArthurDaley

Thank goodness it's over......? on 17:00 - Jul 14 by 442Dale
Do not understand why they persisted with Kane. Never has a World Cup had a less deserving winner of the Golden Boot.

What a manager Southgate is, someone kidnaps Kane and replaces him with a doppelganger and he doesn't notice.

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Thank goodness it's over......? on 22:32 - Jul 14 with 4070 views

Thacks_Rabbits

Thank goodness it's over......? on 19:44 - Jul 14 by ArthurDaley
What a manager Southgate is, someone kidnaps Kane and replaces him with a doppelganger and he doesn't notice.

We got to the semi’s by default. We beat 3 poor teams, lost to 3 teams and drew with 1. Dale would beat panama, compete with Tunisia and Columbia, lose to Belgium and Croatia.

It’s great we got to the last 4 but it really does mean nothing. Kane top scorer. He has been worse than Stirling all tournament imho.

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Thank goodness it's over......? on 23:56 - Jul 14 with 4009 views

DiddyDave

I imagine they`ll be sick of seeing a football by now anyway. Not much of a summer holiday for those players,maybe a couple of weeks,then two weeks pre season training and it all starts again.

Thank goodness it's over......? on 04:34 - Jul 15 with 3928 views

Quigley_dale

Thank goodness it's over......? on 17:00 - Jul 14 by 442Dale
Do not understand why they persisted with Kane. Never has a World Cup had a less deserving winner of the Golden Boot.

Stick to talking about/boring us with kit designs...as you obviously know "fook all about football". ;)

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Thank goodness it's over......? (n/t) on 06:58 - Jul 15 with 3889 views

kiwidale

Thank goodness it's over......? on 04:34 - Jul 15 by Quigley_dale
Stick to talking about/boring us with kit designs...as you obviously know "fook all about football". ;)

A "you know fook all about football" so early in pre season is impressive.

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This is not the time for bickering.

Thank goodness it's over......? on 07:19 - Jul 15 with 3869 views

AlexF

Thank goodness it's over......? on 22:32 - Jul 14 by Thacks_Rabbits
We got to the semi’s by default. We beat 3 poor teams, lost to 3 teams and drew with 1. Dale would beat panama, compete with Tunisia and Columbia, lose to Belgium and Croatia. It’s great we got to the last 4 but it really does mean nothing. Kane top scorer. He has been worse than Stirling all tournament imho.

Thank God its not just me! With all the hysteria about ‘how great England have been’ I thought I was the only one thinking it was completely average. The only issue i would have is nobody was worse than Sterling, the epitome of a headless chicken...

Thank goodness it's over......? on 07:21 - Jul 15 with 3866 views

kiwidale

I only watched on

so of course my opinion doesn't count but I saw nothing to suggest we are emerging. Ok we did better than WC 2014 and Euro 2016 but we couldn't get any worse the gulf in skill and technique etc is as wide as ever.

This is not the time for bickering.

Thank goodness it's over......? on 07:22 - Jul 15 with 3865 views

442Dale

Thank goodness it's over......? on 04:34 - Jul 15 by Quigley_dale
Stick to talking about/boring us with kit designs...as you obviously know "fook all about football". ;)

But knowing nowt about anything is the reason we all post on here. It’s raising awareness around the use of a third colour in shorts and socks trim that really matters though.

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Thank goodness it's over......? on 07:42 - Jul 15 with 3827 views

nordenblue

Thank goodness it's over......? on 07:21 - Jul 15 by kiwidale
I only watched on so of course my opinion doesn't count but I saw nothing to suggest we are emerging. Ok we did better than WC 2014 and Euro 2016 but we couldn't get any worse the gulf in skill and technique etc is as wide as ever.

Gulf between who?

Thank goodness it's over......? on 09:08 - Jul 15 with 3739 views

funkkk

Firstly, I didn't watch the game yesterday as I had no interest in it.

As far as tournaments go I would say we've been acceptable. Acceptable, of course, is a massive improvement on recent tournaments.

Positives are:

The players actually look like they care and have re-united with the fans.

Southgate has handled the media brilliantly and kept them, for the most part, on side.

We are a young team and managed to get to a semi final of a world cup. We did this with players who were out of form/fitness - Kane, Alli, Sterling etc. We have to use this as a positive experience.

My main concern is we have no plan B. We quickly became predictable and started relying on set pieces. We need more options for when games start to turn against us (Colombia/Croatia). This tournament need to be the start of the process and let's see where we are for Euro 2020.

Thank goodness it's over......? on 09:14 - Jul 15 with 3727 views

electricblue

Dont understand why Southgate did not use the players from the squad why never played before the semi.
The whole idea of a 22 man squad is to use them and the 3rd place play off was idea in my opinion....

But there have been positives with players like Trippier......Maguire.....Pickford.....Lingard....Loftus Cheek.....

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Thank goodness it's over......? on 09:22 - Jul 15 with 3707 views

macro

You can only play whose in front of you though whatever the qualities of Panama and Tunisia. Teams get to fa cup finals without ever being tested it's just the luck of the draw.

Thank goodness it's over......? on 10:19 - Jul 15 with 3626 views

sweetcorn

Thank goodness it's over......? on 22:32 - Jul 14 by Thacks_Rabbits
We got to the semi’s by default. We beat 3 poor teams, lost to 3 teams and drew with 1. Dale would beat panama, compete with Tunisia and Columbia, lose to Belgium and Croatia. It’s great we got to the last 4 but it really does mean nothing. Kane top scorer. He has been worse than Stirling all tournament imho.

Stop talking out of your ring piece now, because that statement is embarrassing..

Dale can compete with columbia, are you on drugs? ðŸ˜‚

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Thank goodness it's over......? on 10:26 - Jul 15 with 3611 views

DaleiLama

For me, we have progressed a long way from the low point of 2016. How many recent England teams would have beaten Panama 6-1? How many WC games have we won on pens? GS has laid a foundation and set a standard. We are miles off the finished article but there are a lot of positives to take away.

A bit like the conundrum Keith faces at the end of each campaign, GS now has to analyse the good and the bad and try to improve in the next campaign. He's achieved enough to date to suggest that this target shouldn't be too big for him. Fingers crossed.

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Thank goodness it's over......? on 10:31 - Jul 15 with 3589 views

Danny1907

My whole point as I’ve made a couple of times on here is that we are hyped up. Semi finals sounds like a fantastic achievement and in some respects it is. However, when you analyse it further, it’s not that impressive, Panama are awful and teams like that shouldn’t go to the World Cup.

We lost three times to the only two decent sides we played - I’m discounting Colombia because of James not playing, if he did then they’d have beaten us too. We played Sweden in the quarter final of a World Cup, that’s when you should be playing the big boys, not a solid championship side.

Croatia showed Henderson for what he really is, I don’t understand how he’s come out with so much credit from the tournament and you look at Belgium, topped the group, knocked out Brazil, got beat off a very good French side and then convincingly beat us. The whole forfeiting the last group stage game still irks me because we’ve beaten nobodies and suddenly this is a very good England side? The fact is, they’re not very good, just like the rest but they didn’t have the draws that we’ve had in previous tournaments but I’d still rather see us play the big boys than going out to a decent Croatian side.

Of course they could beat France today, unlikely though. The amount of space between the midfield and their defence is where Griezmann, Mbappe et al will thrive.

Thank goodness it's over......? on 11:05 - Jul 15 with 3541 views

TVOS1907

Thank goodness it's over......? on 22:32 - Jul 14 by Thacks_Rabbits
We got to the semi’s by default. We beat 3 poor teams, lost to 3 teams and drew with 1. Dale would beat panama, compete with Tunisia and Columbia, lose to Belgium and Croatia. It’s great we got to the last 4 but it really does mean nothing. Kane top scorer. He has been worse than Stirling all tournament imho.

That's like saying Dale got to the FA Cup third round by default because we only had to play Bromley and Slough.

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Thank goodness it's over......? on 12:45 - Jul 15 with 3443 views

BigDaveMyCock

I think there’s been an overall improvement but I agree that the improvement is not quite as much as some would have us believe. Bar the latter stages of the Croatia game we’ve played far better possession football and have looked quite comfortable and patient in games. The 3-5-2 system also suits us and I liked the way we played it from the back. We also look more of a team than in previous tournaments and each player seemed to know their role as part of the team. No Rooney at quarterback or Gerrard as Superman. We do, however, still lack quality. The midfield needs a Modric/Silva type, hopefully a fit Lallana will help there. I agree with 442, Kane has to get in games more when not scoring. Sterling needs to also convert chances, although I do think the team benefits more when he plays rather than Rashford. Beyond the first xi there is also not much to chose from. Dier was poor and looked painfully slow and Delph, Jones, Vardy, Wellbeck and Rose didn’t show much.

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Thank goodness it's over......? on 13:25 - Jul 15 with 3375 views

rochedale

Thank goodness it's over......? on 17:00 - Jul 14 by 442Dale
Do not understand why they persisted with Kane. Never has a World Cup had a less deserving winner of the Golden Boot.

What an utterly rediculous comment. How can he not deserve to win it, if he’s scored the most goals? If you are saying he has been poor, you are wrong, he’s had limited service, and it really is pointless trying to argue with someone who disagrees really, so I’ll not carry on.

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Thank goodness it's over......? on 15:07 - Jul 15 with 3280 views

AtThePeake

Thank goodness it's over......? on 13:25 - Jul 15 by rochedale
What an utterly rediculous comment. How can he not deserve to win it, if he’s scored the most goals? If you are saying he has been poor, you are wrong, he’s had limited service, and it really is pointless trying to argue with someone who disagrees really, so I’ll not carry on.

The thing with Kane is, even when he doesn't play particularly well, he scores goals.

If he continues "playing poorly", "not being an elite striker", is a "flat-track bully" and "tap-in merchant" and carries on scoring at his current rate for the rest of his career, every Spurs fan will take that. Strikers are judged on goals. Kane scores them. Simple as that.

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Thank goodness it's over......? on 15:25 - Jul 15 with 3228 views

442Dale

Thank goodness it's over......? on 15:07 - Jul 15 by AtThePeake
The thing with Kane is, even when he doesn't play particularly well, he scores goals. If he continues "playing poorly", "not being an elite striker", is a "flat-track bully" and "tap-in merchant" and carries on scoring at his current rate for the rest of his career, every Spurs fan will take that. Strikers are judged on goals. Kane scores them. Simple as that.

There’s no dispute that he’s an excellent striker, the point above about persisting with him was for the third place match when he was clearly suffering from fatigue/injury. Totally get why he’ll always produce at club level but we’ve all been focused on this higher level now, and there’s little dispute that he’s not been enough of a threat since the opening two group games.

There’s a lot of similarities with Alan Shearer - two players who will always get 30 goals a season and score regularly at international level too. The difference right now, and it’s only an opinion, is that Shearer was a constant menace in every game, goals or not. Defenders hated playing against him. Kane needs to add that to his game.

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Thank goodness it's over......? on 15:44 - Jul 15 with 3194 views

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Thank goodness it's over......? on 15:25 - Jul 15 by 442Dale

In those first 2 games you mention,any premier league number 9 would have probably scored and a few championship number 9's also.

Thank goodness it's over......? on 15:59 - Jul 15 with 3168 views

BartRowou

Makes me laugh that the media/experts played down England's chances in this tournament only to spend the latter stages hyping up our chances of winning the next one.

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