| i'm gonna hold my hands up..... 23:41 - Dec 11 with 4501 views | qpr_1968 |
and say 4 or 5 games ago we were fcucked.....
but at the moment, love the football....
love the players....
love the staff....
love the fans....
i've started to enjoy going again.....
who is all this down to?
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| i'm gonna hold my hands up..... on 23:46 - Dec 11 with 3100 views | Logman |
I thought we were fcuked also
The players are coming much better but for me it's the organisation and belief which has been installed by the manager that has turned this around. | | | |
| i'm gonna hold my hands up..... on 23:48 - Dec 11 with 3070 views | numptydumpty |
God I think
It's clearly divine intervention as Satan himself had seemingly had his grip on our players for the last three seasons.
Either it's that or we have suddenly realised the object of the game is to score goals and also not concede them !!!!
Someone has transferred that information and they have taken it on board... |  |
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| i'm gonna hold my hands up..... on 23:48 - Dec 11 with 3073 views | bosh67 |
Marti. He swallowed his pride, his ideals and went back to simply making us hard to beat and playing to the team's actual ability, like last season. So far it has got us back on track and I agree, we looked totally doomed before the last international break.
I also think that the Morrison/Cook partnership has been important. Morrison is massively impressive and like Cook, seems to read the game a few steps ahead. No coincidence that we've improved so much. Morrison is a big find. |  |
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| i'm gonna hold my hands up..... on 23:55 - Dec 11 with 3005 views | qpr_1968 |
| i'm gonna hold my hands up..... on 23:48 - Dec 11 by bosh67 |
Marti. He swallowed his pride, his ideals and went back to simply making us hard to beat and playing to the team's actual ability, like last season. So far it has got us back on track and I agree, we looked totally doomed before the last international break.
I also think that the Morrison/Cook partnership has been important. Morrison is massively impressive and like Cook, seems to read the game a few steps ahead. No coincidence that we've improved so much. Morrison is a big find. |
love the fact you have mentioned morrison and cook.
saito, kolli and dunne have all been inspirational of late as well.
and of course there are other fans favourites as well, not forgetting the injured.
thought nardi was about to be on the list as well.....just love that man, thank god he were'nt. | |
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| i'm gonna hold my hands up..... on 23:58 - Dec 11 with 2977 views | Lblock |
Dare I say the fans….. specifically Saturday 23 November 4:45pm
Marti’s song was belted out loud, proud and repeated.
He said himself how he felt humbled and I am positive that day convinced the Nourry Child he could not part ways with Marti or risk all out revolt against himself
Marti continues to learn.
What a fantastic man we have at the football helm here
Turning to our precarious position it may not surprise many that I’d still have us in the fcukd category
We’ve not got a senior striker
We’re still carrying baggage like Madsen and Anderson
Chair will take weeks to be fully fit
Injuries continue to stretch an already thin squad at the busiest period in the calendar
We don’t have a left back
There’s a lack of pace all over the squad
And….. we’re only four points above the dotted line with some teams below us having two games in hand on us
Feet need to be kept firmly on the ground but in Marti We Trust |  |
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| i'm gonna hold my hands up..... on 00:00 - Dec 12 with 2956 views | qpr_1968 |
| i'm gonna hold my hands up..... on 23:58 - Dec 11 by Lblock |
Dare I say the fans….. specifically Saturday 23 November 4:45pm
Marti’s song was belted out loud, proud and repeated.
He said himself how he felt humbled and I am positive that day convinced the Nourry Child he could not part ways with Marti or risk all out revolt against himself
Marti continues to learn.
What a fantastic man we have at the football helm here
Turning to our precarious position it may not surprise many that I’d still have us in the fcukd category
We’ve not got a senior striker
We’re still carrying baggage like Madsen and Anderson
Chair will take weeks to be fully fit
Injuries continue to stretch an already thin squad at the busiest period in the calendar
We don’t have a left back
There’s a lack of pace all over the squad
And….. we’re only four points above the dotted line with some teams below us having two games in hand on us
Feet need to be kept firmly on the ground but in Marti We Trust |
can't agree more....marti is the man. | |
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| i'm gonna hold my hands up..... on 00:05 - Dec 12 with 2914 views | kensalriser |
We weren't f***ed four or five games ago and we're not safe now. |  |
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| i'm gonna hold my hands up..... on 00:08 - Dec 12 with 2873 views | qpr_1968 |
| i'm gonna hold my hands up..... on 00:05 - Dec 12 by kensalriser |
We weren't f***ed four or five games ago and we're not safe now. |
well in my opinion we were.... | |
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| i'm gonna hold my hands up..... on 00:10 - Dec 12 with 2849 views | hubble |
It was a perfect storm combination of a large and growing injury list and several new players having to find their feet too fast in a totally different league/country that caused the downturn in performances and results. But I feel we've turned that corner now. Varane, Morrison and Saito looking really good. Nardi superb of course. Madsen not so much, but there's a bit of breathing space now and he's a quality player I think. Great to see Ilias back. Still some wobbly areas, like left back, but four clean sheets in a row... that's fantastic.
Oh and Marti was always a class act, but he just had a tough few months trying to sort all this out. But as we know, form is temporary, class is permanent. [Post edited 12 Dec 0:13]
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| i'm gonna hold my hands up..... on 00:14 - Dec 12 with 2805 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| i'm gonna hold my hands up..... on 00:05 - Dec 12 by kensalriser |
We weren't f***ed four or five games ago and we're not safe now. |
Exactly: we were always going to improve once a few injured players returned and the new lads settled in. We’re moving in the right direction but still a lot of games to play and points to win. |  | | |
| i'm gonna hold my hands up..... on 00:24 - Dec 12 with 2759 views | Jevlar |
Same here. I thought we were down because I couldn’t see us suddenly getting 4 or 5 results on the spin and yet here we are… |  | | |
| i'm gonna hold my hands up..... on 07:48 - Dec 12 with 2456 views | GaryBannister86 |
| i'm gonna hold my hands up..... on 23:58 - Dec 11 by Lblock |
Dare I say the fans….. specifically Saturday 23 November 4:45pm
Marti’s song was belted out loud, proud and repeated.
He said himself how he felt humbled and I am positive that day convinced the Nourry Child he could not part ways with Marti or risk all out revolt against himself
Marti continues to learn.
What a fantastic man we have at the football helm here
Turning to our precarious position it may not surprise many that I’d still have us in the fcukd category
We’ve not got a senior striker
We’re still carrying baggage like Madsen and Anderson
Chair will take weeks to be fully fit
Injuries continue to stretch an already thin squad at the busiest period in the calendar
We don’t have a left back
There’s a lack of pace all over the squad
And….. we’re only four points above the dotted line with some teams below us having two games in hand on us
Feet need to be kept firmly on the ground but in Marti We Trust |
Great post. The loud support during and after that game on the 23rd for the manager when his position seemed in great peril - well we may never know if it swayed anyone. But it can't have done any harm.
Let's hope we keep it going, just as the posts 4 games ago saying "that's it, we are down" were nonsense, so are thoughts that it is all fixed now. |  | | |
| i'm gonna hold my hands up..... on 08:03 - Dec 12 with 2322 views | thehat |
Me too - I was convinced this was our season to go down.
However we now have hope and have shown we can also dig results out when needed.
I predicted 14th at the start of the season and we might just have enough in the tank with a good January transfer market to get there. | | | |
| i'm gonna hold my hands up..... on 08:13 - Dec 12 with 2259 views | fraserc |
Fun fact, we are bottom of the championship ton table, i.e. results from the last 100 matches:
https://thefishy.co.uk/tontable.php?table=2
I would love to say we are looking upwards, but history kind of suggests otherwise. | | | |
| i'm gonna hold my hands up..... on 08:19 - Dec 12 with 2236 views | Juzzie |
| i'm gonna hold my hands up..... on 08:13 - Dec 12 by fraserc |
Fun fact, we are bottom of the championship ton table, i.e. results from the last 100 matches:
https://thefishy.co.uk/tontable.php?table=2
I would love to say we are looking upwards, but history kind of suggests otherwise. |
As Yazz once sang…….
That table at the top is skewed in the sense it includes games in any division so teams promoted will always be higher.
It should only be for Championship games. |  | | |
| i'm gonna hold my hands up..... on 08:34 - Dec 12 with 2133 views | gazza1 |
We were having difficulties due to injuries, we have been playing with half a team. Some of the players that were selected were poor or too inexperienced because we had no better. We have a decent squad, short in some areas, but decent enough to be a mid table team, maybe better. We are far too good to be relegated, you saw last night(Oxford) what a relegation team was. | | | |
| i'm gonna hold my hands up..... on 08:39 - Dec 12 with 2095 views | dmm |
We're a fickle lot, us Rs fans (but I guess no more than most other clubs' supporters). A few good results and edging out of the relegation slots and we're a happy(ish) bunch.
But I too thought we were destined for the drop just a few weeks ago. We're not out of the woods yet but the signs are encouraging and, for me, none more so than Marti's change of tactics. I hope he sticks to a more pragmatic approach throughout the season and doesn't change back as it's obvious the present style of play better suits the players.
This season is looking very much it'll pan out as last season did. After our horrendous start, I'll take that quite happily. |  | | |
| i'm gonna hold my hands up..... on 08:42 - Dec 12 with 2061 views | gazza1 |
| i'm gonna hold my hands up..... on 08:39 - Dec 12 by dmm |
We're a fickle lot, us Rs fans (but I guess no more than most other clubs' supporters). A few good results and edging out of the relegation slots and we're a happy(ish) bunch.
But I too thought we were destined for the drop just a few weeks ago. We're not out of the woods yet but the signs are encouraging and, for me, none more so than Marti's change of tactics. I hope he sticks to a more pragmatic approach throughout the season and doesn't change back as it's obvious the present style of play better suits the players.
This season is looking very much it'll pan out as last season did. After our horrendous start, I'll take that quite happily. |
What has MC done to change things??? | | | |
| i'm gonna hold my hands up..... on 08:54 - Dec 12 with 1996 views | joe90 |
| i'm gonna hold my hands up..... on 23:58 - Dec 11 by Lblock |
Dare I say the fans….. specifically Saturday 23 November 4:45pm
Marti’s song was belted out loud, proud and repeated.
He said himself how he felt humbled and I am positive that day convinced the Nourry Child he could not part ways with Marti or risk all out revolt against himself
Marti continues to learn.
What a fantastic man we have at the football helm here
Turning to our precarious position it may not surprise many that I’d still have us in the fcukd category
We’ve not got a senior striker
We’re still carrying baggage like Madsen and Anderson
Chair will take weeks to be fully fit
Injuries continue to stretch an already thin squad at the busiest period in the calendar
We don’t have a left back
There’s a lack of pace all over the squad
And….. we’re only four points above the dotted line with some teams below us having two games in hand on us
Feet need to be kept firmly on the ground but in Marti We Trust |
I would argue that we’ve come into form at a good time. It looks like we have our weakest team winning and still have players to come back. Two games without a senior striker and we score 5 goals and 2 clean sheets, that works for me.
Wouldn’t say Anderson is dead weight and as much as I have been critical of Madsen I’d argue that his lack of contribution has been less detrimental.
In terms of our survival chances I think they’ve gone up. Other teams will be dealing with similar issues as us and there’s definitely three worse teams. What we’ve got to look out for is Oxford/Portsmouth/Cardiff/Plymouth all have games in hand, we need their results to go our way, but we seem to be getting our house in order. [Post edited 12 Dec 9:22]
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| i'm gonna hold my hands up..... on 08:57 - Dec 12 with 1962 views | kingsburyR |
I might as well be the one that throws some water on this fire!!!!
I don't think we are out of this by any stretch. The first 45 mins of football last night was some of the worst I have seen in my life at HQ and that takes some doing! We could not string two passes together culminating in Cook (I think) pinging one off the back of Dunnes head.
For 45 mins we forgot how to pass the ball. I don't think Ashby successfully completed one pass up to half time. And the lack of urgency was alarming. Its 0-0 and we have a throw at right full back. Dunne takes a fu(kin age to amble over to take it only to have sod all options as the movement was zero.
Half time couldn't come quick enough. I would imagine a grenade was thrown into the dressing room as the team came out with a new sense of purpose buuuut....... how bad were Oxford? As bad as we were first half they stank the place out for 90 mins.
There are shoots of optimism but for now ill keep with the glass half empty. Its a safer place for me!
P.S. Chair returning is a plus and its no co-incidence that we are leaking goals with Morrison in the team next to Cook.
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| i'm gonna hold my hands up..... on 10:15 - Dec 12 with 1734 views | JamesB1979 |
On more practical level it’s Morrison being fit to partner Cook, allowing Dunne to go to right back. Then Varane being back from suspension has made us much more solid too.
Then more generally, likes of Field, Cook and Dunne are playing much better than they were. | | | |
| i'm gonna hold my hands up..... on 10:20 - Dec 12 with 1707 views | TheChef |
| i'm gonna hold my hands up..... on 10:15 - Dec 12 by JamesB1979 |
On more practical level it’s Morrison being fit to partner Cook, allowing Dunne to go to right back. Then Varane being back from suspension has made us much more solid too.
Then more generally, likes of Field, Cook and Dunne are playing much better than they were. |
Yes the likes of Morrison, Varane, Saito, arguably Celar all getting up to speed.
And the manager taking a more pragmatic approach, bolstering the midfield, getting our shape more narrow and making it harder for teams to play through us. Start of the season we played Field plus all those "ballers" (sorry) who are less keen on tracking back and tackling, funnily enough the defence had far less protection. |  |
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| i'm gonna hold my hands up..... on 10:39 - Dec 12 with 1616 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
While I'm not a football hipster, I'd be interested to see the xG stats, etc. from the earlier games compared with some of the recent ones. I don't think they'd be too dissimilar. We've definitely tightened up at the back but Nardi was still MoM against Cardiff. Similarly, we missed a load of great chances against Watford (xG presumably high) but stuck our few chances away against both Cardiff and Oxford.
We've definitely played better (mostly) recently, though we could have lost to Cardiff and were crap in the first half yesterday. It's fine margins at this level - a fantastic save here, a clinical finish there and you win rather than lose. | | | |
| i'm gonna hold my hands up..... on 11:06 - Dec 12 with 1475 views | stainrods_elbow |
We fans are a manic-depressive lot (the clue's in the word 'fanatic'), and those posters (myself included) who were two or three weeks ago prophesying relegation/Marti's sacking/the collapse of the club and demanding Nourry be garrotted for everything from our ridiculous injury list to Morrison's skied effort at Watford are hopefully tucking into large slices of humble pie now. I had a small piece for breakfast, as it's a big pie!
Marty still has plenty to learn for me, but he's right on the money when he says that everything wasn't black when we were propping up the table and everything's far from ubiquitously rosy now we've picked up a couple of wins/clean sheets. We beat Cardiff, but could easily have lost. We did well at Watford and should have won. Last night's first half was utter gash. We're still at least a playmaker, a left-back, and at least one striker short. But things are looking up, and so should we be, while keeping our feet on the ground.
In short, the glass is half-full and by definition half-empty, but, to quote The Jesus and Mary Chain, everything is (sort of) all right when you're down. [Post edited 12 Dec 14:52]
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| i'm gonna hold my hands up..... on 11:12 - Dec 12 with 1421 views | WadR |
| i'm gonna hold my hands up..... on 10:39 - Dec 12 by Wegerles_Stairs |
While I'm not a football hipster, I'd be interested to see the xG stats, etc. from the earlier games compared with some of the recent ones. I don't think they'd be too dissimilar. We've definitely tightened up at the back but Nardi was still MoM against Cardiff. Similarly, we missed a load of great chances against Watford (xG presumably high) but stuck our few chances away against both Cardiff and Oxford.
We've definitely played better (mostly) recently, though we could have lost to Cardiff and were crap in the first half yesterday. It's fine margins at this level - a fantastic save here, a clinical finish there and you win rather than lose. |
https://fbref.com/en/squads/a757999c/Queens-Park-Rangers-Stats - Is useful for the xG and xA stats - scroll down to the scores & fixtures section.
Feel like the stats mostly tally with the eye test. While we've definitely tightened up at the back and look a lot more solid for Varane getting up to speed and a relatively stable, consistent CB partnership, I do think a lot of the improvements is as much to do with the variance of luck. There were the Hull/Plymouth games earlier in the season where opposition keepers had incredible games and we conceded screamers.
Feel like we're now getting the fall of the bounce, rub of the green with refereeing and offside calls. | | | |
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