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Expectations on Russell Martin this season 18:50 - Jul 15 with 19701 viewsKeithHaynes

Expectations on Russell Martin this season


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Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 09:16 - Jul 22 with 918 viewsvetchonian

Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 08:40 - Jul 22 by magicdaps10

Unfortunately they are making the noise mainly down to the fact that they want to point out that people have been unfair to Steve Cooper-Ultimately they have become the people that they are trying to make the point to.

Some of the posts about Martin are quite personal and quite strange-for example AC who seems to have a very personal hatred of him, going as far to knock where he lives etc.

These posters are very obsessed individuals as shown by their posting and always wanting the kast word-even going as far to cover their obsession up by saying that they have to put other posters in their place and won't allow them to get away with things....... Its obsession however way it's covered up.


How did Doc Winston refer to Cooper?

I think yo will find my critique of MArtin is based on the football yes I have benchmarked him against Cooper...as in the past Clement was Benchmarked against Monk Monk V Laudrup

My only obsession is with the Swans ..and I admit I may overeact to what I consider "crazy " posts with revsisionsim , fanatsy or posts not based on fact

I quess this post may reinforce your point

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Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 09:21 - Jul 22 with 898 viewsDr_Parnassus

Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 08:40 - Jul 22 by magicdaps10

Unfortunately they are making the noise mainly down to the fact that they want to point out that people have been unfair to Steve Cooper-Ultimately they have become the people that they are trying to make the point to.

Some of the posts about Martin are quite personal and quite strange-for example AC who seems to have a very personal hatred of him, going as far to knock where he lives etc.

These posters are very obsessed individuals as shown by their posting and always wanting the kast word-even going as far to cover their obsession up by saying that they have to put other posters in their place and won't allow them to get away with things....... Its obsession however way it's covered up.


You mean nothing to do with the fact we were awful and came 15th last year?

That was just coincidence?

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Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 09:27 - Jul 22 with 904 viewsWhiterockin

Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 09:07 - Jul 22 by vetchonian

I suppose I am regarded as one of those "negative" posters but my expectations are still high despite my criticism of the manager.

We have a very squad it should be capable of a top 6 finish if properly managed.

Many of last seasons "positive" posters were very "negative" in the precedding sessons

And WR you are correct this board does not really refelct the feelings of the total fanbase....just those who enjoy debater and seeing whats going on


Excellent reply.
[Post edited 22 Jul 2022 9:28]
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Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 09:37 - Jul 22 with 879 viewsFireboy2

Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 08:47 - Jul 22 by raynor94

100% agree


Seconded.
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Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 09:42 - Jul 22 with 864 viewsFireboy2

Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 09:07 - Jul 22 by vetchonian

I suppose I am regarded as one of those "negative" posters but my expectations are still high despite my criticism of the manager.

We have a very squad it should be capable of a top 6 finish if properly managed.

Many of last seasons "positive" posters were very "negative" in the precedding sessons

And WR you are correct this board does not really refelct the feelings of the total fanbase....just those who enjoy debater and seeing whats going on


As WR has stated most fans are positive about RM, I also speak to many over texts, the JB group I set up and especially at away games.

Most don't post on forums for reasons like no time or it just isn't their thing.
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Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 09:43 - Jul 22 with 863 viewsFireboy2

Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 09:27 - Jul 22 by Whiterockin

Excellent reply.
[Post edited 22 Jul 2022 9:28]


Agreed 👍
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Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 10:10 - Jul 22 with 820 viewsDr_Parnassus

Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 09:42 - Jul 22 by Fireboy2

As WR has stated most fans are positive about RM, I also speak to many over texts, the JB group I set up and especially at away games.

Most don't post on forums for reasons like no time or it just isn't their thing.


You can’t possibly know that.

Most fans you have spoken to maybe, but not “most fans”. They are worlds apart.

Most people that post regularly on here seem to go regularly judging by the quietness of home game match day threads.

I voted that we would have a good season specifically because of the strength of our squad and I’m hoping they are good enough to overcome the handicap they will have by having to play under the ludicrous conditions Russell Martin brainlessly sets out.

We shall see.

But pretending there is some vendetta against him while conveniently ignoring the reasons why people aren’t happy with his performance is just plain silly.

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Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 10:40 - Jul 22 with 804 viewsWhiterockin

Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 10:10 - Jul 22 by Dr_Parnassus

You can’t possibly know that.

Most fans you have spoken to maybe, but not “most fans”. They are worlds apart.

Most people that post regularly on here seem to go regularly judging by the quietness of home game match day threads.

I voted that we would have a good season specifically because of the strength of our squad and I’m hoping they are good enough to overcome the handicap they will have by having to play under the ludicrous conditions Russell Martin brainlessly sets out.

We shall see.

But pretending there is some vendetta against him while conveniently ignoring the reasons why people aren’t happy with his performance is just plain silly.


Most people that post regularly on here seem to go regularly judging by the quietness of home game match day threads.

But the majority of home match day supporters approximately 16,000 do not post on here.
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Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 10:48 - Jul 22 with 790 viewsDr_Parnassus

Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 10:40 - Jul 22 by Whiterockin

Most people that post regularly on here seem to go regularly judging by the quietness of home game match day threads.

But the majority of home match day supporters approximately 16,000 do not post on here.


Indeed.

So nobody can make any judgement surrounding what the fanbase thinks.

Polls will be the best indicator as they are recorded data, but still not very accurate. But the best indicator out of anything anyone has said here, which seems to be anecdotal and an environment where group think and confirmation bias can play into perceptions.

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Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 12:14 - Jul 22 with 761 viewsonehunglow

Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 10:48 - Jul 22 by Dr_Parnassus

Indeed.

So nobody can make any judgement surrounding what the fanbase thinks.

Polls will be the best indicator as they are recorded data, but still not very accurate. But the best indicator out of anything anyone has said here, which seems to be anecdotal and an environment where group think and confirmation bias can play into perceptions.


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Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 12:44 - Jul 22 with 734 viewsvetchonian

Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 09:21 - Jul 22 by Dr_Parnassus

You mean nothing to do with the fact we were awful and came 15th last year?

That was just coincidence?


Dont you realise we were rebuilding...in transisiotn and the msnager had no preseason

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Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 13:06 - Jul 22 with 719 viewsDr_Parnassus

Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 12:44 - Jul 22 by vetchonian

Dont you realise we were rebuilding...in transisiotn and the msnager had no preseason


Ironic isn’t it, that those who praise a manager in 15th, while slating a manager in 4th accuse others of having a vendetta.

When those others they accuse are completely aligned with what goes on upon the pitch. Happy in 4th, unhappy in 15th.

If one was to pick ‘who had the vendetta’ and ‘who had the normal fan reaction’, it would be a pretty easy pick.

Only on message boards would you get someone even attempting to make the opposite view. It harbours all sorts I suppose…

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Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 13:49 - Jul 22 with 702 viewsDr_Parnassus

What an awfully silly post.

Again, most people that post on this forum seem to be match goers and season ticket holders (you can’t all be international success stories like me I suppose).

Anecdotal evidence is useless when trying to gauge the feeling. I would say the boos, the polls and common sense is far more indicative of the feeling of the fan base as opposed to someone on a message board prone to exaggeration and partisan positions.

Now calm down and stop wrecking threads again. Behave yourself.

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Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 14:10 - Jul 22 with 667 viewsSTID2017

Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 13:49 - Jul 22 by Dr_Parnassus

What an awfully silly post.

Again, most people that post on this forum seem to be match goers and season ticket holders (you can’t all be international success stories like me I suppose).

Anecdotal evidence is useless when trying to gauge the feeling. I would say the boos, the polls and common sense is far more indicative of the feeling of the fan base as opposed to someone on a message board prone to exaggeration and partisan positions.

Now calm down and stop wrecking threads again. Behave yourself.


You are the one who has been wrecking threads and peeing off many of the better posters on here.
If you and your ilk don't want to get behind the club and it's manager, why bother coming on a Swans supporters forum.
BTW when did you last see the team play regularly ( Live I mean and not via stream ) ?

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Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 14:11 - Jul 22 with 667 viewsonehunglow

Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 13:49 - Jul 22 by Dr_Parnassus

What an awfully silly post.

Again, most people that post on this forum seem to be match goers and season ticket holders (you can’t all be international success stories like me I suppose).

Anecdotal evidence is useless when trying to gauge the feeling. I would say the boos, the polls and common sense is far more indicative of the feeling of the fan base as opposed to someone on a message board prone to exaggeration and partisan positions.

Now calm down and stop wrecking threads again. Behave yourself.


It's a relentless campaign is it not.Another "why not go somewhere else ".It is now that pitiful I refuse to comment any further so as not to upset them any longer.
I feel pity,anger and a certain smugness frankly.

I dont agree with you on many things and know not whom you are but I reply as per your postings and all should do that or leave the site immediately.

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Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 14:16 - Jul 22 with 651 viewsDr_Parnassus

Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 14:10 - Jul 22 by STID2017

You are the one who has been wrecking threads and peeing off many of the better posters on here.
If you and your ilk don't want to get behind the club and it's manager, why bother coming on a Swans supporters forum.
BTW when did you last see the team play regularly ( Live I mean and not via stream ) ?


By giving opinions that you don’t like? You are the one destroying threads with your personal tittle tattle that you are well known for on this forum.

Suck it up buttercup.

As I told one of your silly gang yesterday.. there is another forum if you don’t like it.

Enjoy it.

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Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 14:20 - Jul 22 with 647 viewsDr_Parnassus

Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 14:11 - Jul 22 by onehunglow

It's a relentless campaign is it not.Another "why not go somewhere else ".It is now that pitiful I refuse to comment any further so as not to upset them any longer.
I feel pity,anger and a certain smugness frankly.

I dont agree with you on many things and know not whom you are but I reply as per your postings and all should do that or leave the site immediately.


Of course, it’s been a relentless campaign by that gang for a long time.

The worse Russell Martin performs the more abusive and twitchy they get. If it wasn’t our club that was suffering it would be hilarious.

Sadly it is suffering, and these same people are justifying it while attacking fans with excellent analytical skills and of course the better posters on this forum.

If they weren’t known to the owner of the site, they would no doubt have been banned long ago with the rest of them.

As it stands we just have to call them out and expose them for what they are. I do enjoy that in fairness.

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Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 14:21 - Jul 22 with 649 viewsSTID2017

Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 14:16 - Jul 22 by Dr_Parnassus

By giving opinions that you don’t like? You are the one destroying threads with your personal tittle tattle that you are well known for on this forum.

Suck it up buttercup.

As I told one of your silly gang yesterday.. there is another forum if you don’t like it.

Enjoy it.


There you go with your gang nonsense again.
I just post my opinions.
I don't others to vindicate them.
As for destroying threads you have much more form for that than I do.
Cheerio now

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Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 14:25 - Jul 22 with 642 viewsDr_Parnassus

Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 14:21 - Jul 22 by STID2017

There you go with your gang nonsense again.
I just post my opinions.
I don't others to vindicate them.
As for destroying threads you have much more form for that than I do.
Cheerio now


Not nonsense at all, an online bulling gang trying to cover each others backs as you have taken a position which is the opposite of common sense and the reality of the situation. Meaning in order to justify your position you need abuse and numbers.

You are destroying this thread again, like the countless you did last season.

Cut it out.

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Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 14:26 - Jul 22 with 641 viewsAndyCole

Grow up.

Dr_P - Not only the best poster across all Swans forums but also the most itk.

And to think the less bright here tried to get him banned, and some like you still do to this day. Shame on you. Denying us all the rich vein of insight and top itk intel.

Back of the flock for you.

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Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 14:42 - Jul 22 with 628 viewsSTID2017

Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 14:26 - Jul 22 by AndyCole

Grow up.

Dr_P - Not only the best poster across all Swans forums but also the most itk.

And to think the less bright here tried to get him banned, and some like you still do to this day. Shame on you. Denying us all the rich vein of insight and top itk intel.

Back of the flock for you.

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What are you piping up for ?

ITK ?
According to him Piroe hates Martin and is on his way out of the club.
You and him should go off into the sunset and form your own clique ?
Have him banned ?
What would possibly think I care enough or am able to fo that?

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Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 14:45 - Jul 22 with 618 viewsSTID2017

Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 14:25 - Jul 22 by Dr_Parnassus

Not nonsense at all, an online bulling gang trying to cover each others backs as you have taken a position which is the opposite of common sense and the reality of the situation. Meaning in order to justify your position you need abuse and numbers.

You are destroying this thread again, like the countless you did last season.

Cut it out.


What is a bulling gang ?
Is that an Aussie thing ? 🤔
Have you noticed me joining in with anyone lately ?
Of course not.
This silly gang thing is in the head of you and a few of your deluded admirers.

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Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 15:05 - Jul 22 with 593 viewsmagicdaps10

Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 14:42 - Jul 22 by STID2017

What are you piping up for ?

ITK ?
According to him Piroe hates Martin and is on his way out of the club.
You and him should go off into the sunset and form your own clique ?
Have him banned ?
What would possibly think I care enough or am able to fo that?


Hand in hand maybe!?

Would look like Johnny Wilkinson attempting a kick at goal 😂

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Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 15:10 - Jul 22 with 592 viewsWhiterockin

Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 14:45 - Jul 22 by STID2017

What is a bulling gang ?
Is that an Aussie thing ? 🤔
Have you noticed me joining in with anyone lately ?
Of course not.
This silly gang thing is in the head of you and a few of your deluded admirers.


You are in a gang if you disagree with him and agree with someone else. Yet if you agree with him and disagree with another poster you are not.

The joyful world of a deluded poster.
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Expectations on Russell Martin this season on 15:13 - Jul 22 with 636 viewsjasper_T

For some people "supporting their club" is about staying positive and as a consequence shutting down any and all criticism, even when they don't or can't actually disagree with it. There's nothing wrong with optimism and cheering your side on through thick and thin, come what may, but try to accept that other people engage with the sport and their club differently.

It's not an agenda (usually). It's not trolling (usually). Some people like to analyse, criticise and even have a moan. Pessimism about our chances given what we've seen isn't an attack on the club. There are a few posters on here that spend more time telling others they're not "proper fans", or to go watch some other team/sport, than actually talking about football. It's very easy to put a poster you don't like reading on ignore and never see their posts, it's the repetitive arguments that make the forum worse to read for everyone.
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