| Corona Virus 22:39 - Mar 7 with 513734 views | SgorioFruit |
Sorry for new thread,
But how bad do you lot reckon it’s going to get here in the UK?
I just been watching the news. Looking nasty in Italy. |  |
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| Corona Virus on 17:04 - Mar 13 with 2350 views | hobo |
There is no proof that getting it means you're immune to it |  | | |
| Corona Virus on 17:08 - Mar 13 with 2341 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Corona Virus on 17:04 - Mar 13 by hobo |
There is no proof that getting it means you're immune to it |
If that’s the case then a vaccine won’t work.
It is the case though with other viruses so there’s no reason to think it won’t be the case with this. |  | | |
| Corona Virus on 17:12 - Mar 13 with 2328 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Corona Virus on 16:27 - Mar 13 by londonlisa2001 |
They’re not expecting that number.
That’s an extrapolation of assuming the 60% is evenly spread. They are trying to skew it to younger people getting it to protect older people.
Everyone is reading exactly the same stuff. You’re not seeing anything different. And they are seeing massive amounts more, in more detail, with more splits, more explanations, more modelling, more advice. |
Well we will be getting a good idea by mid April of how well it is working.
That is the period where if it hasn't worked the NHS will start being overwhelmed, not just with patients but also with infected NHS staff.
They will be like Italy then just letting people die because they can't adequately treat them and only treating the ones they think will pull through quickly.
I hope you are right and I am wrong.
In the mean time are they creating more IC beds, more ventilators, more hazmat suits, more antiviral drugs etc?
Have they announced anything yet? | | | |
| Corona Virus on 17:16 - Mar 13 with 2313 views | hobo |
| Corona Virus on 17:12 - Mar 13 by A_Fans_Dad |
Well we will be getting a good idea by mid April of how well it is working.
That is the period where if it hasn't worked the NHS will start being overwhelmed, not just with patients but also with infected NHS staff.
They will be like Italy then just letting people die because they can't adequately treat them and only treating the ones they think will pull through quickly.
I hope you are right and I am wrong.
In the mean time are they creating more IC beds, more ventilators, more hazmat suits, more antiviral drugs etc?
Have they announced anything yet? |
No question about it, you're spot on | | | |
| Corona Virus on 17:23 - Mar 13 with 2301 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Corona Virus on 17:12 - Mar 13 by A_Fans_Dad |
Well we will be getting a good idea by mid April of how well it is working.
That is the period where if it hasn't worked the NHS will start being overwhelmed, not just with patients but also with infected NHS staff.
They will be like Italy then just letting people die because they can't adequately treat them and only treating the ones they think will pull through quickly.
I hope you are right and I am wrong.
In the mean time are they creating more IC beds, more ventilators, more hazmat suits, more antiviral drugs etc?
Have they announced anything yet? |
What do you mean you hope I’m right? At no point have I said I know what will happen. I’ve said all along I’ve no idea.
I’ve also said I’d lock everyone inside for 6 months and wait for a treatment or a vaccine.
All I’m saying is what choice do we have? And also that they know more than we do.
What do you think us wanting them to do different will do? Nothing. No impact.
At least they have a plan. That seems to make sense. Italy has no plan. It acted after it was out of control there. I don’t know whether there are better plans as I’m not an expert.
Everyone is frightened unless they’re an absolute idiot. But we are quite literally powerless other than keeping ourselves inside if that makes us feel better. | | | |
| Corona Virus on 17:36 - Mar 13 with 2277 views | Thebus |
| Corona Virus on 17:23 - Mar 13 by londonlisa2001 |
What do you mean you hope I’m right? At no point have I said I know what will happen. I’ve said all along I’ve no idea.
I’ve also said I’d lock everyone inside for 6 months and wait for a treatment or a vaccine.
All I’m saying is what choice do we have? And also that they know more than we do.
What do you think us wanting them to do different will do? Nothing. No impact.
At least they have a plan. That seems to make sense. Italy has no plan. It acted after it was out of control there. I don’t know whether there are better plans as I’m not an expert.
Everyone is frightened unless they’re an absolute idiot. But we are quite literally powerless other than keeping ourselves inside if that makes us feel better. |
Lock people inside for 6 months. My god. | | | |
| Corona Virus on 17:49 - Mar 13 with 2255 views | Jackfath |
This isn't a time for fighting one another. Let's pull together. |  |
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| Corona Virus on 18:13 - Mar 13 with 2221 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Corona Virus on 17:23 - Mar 13 by londonlisa2001 |
What do you mean you hope I’m right? At no point have I said I know what will happen. I’ve said all along I’ve no idea.
I’ve also said I’d lock everyone inside for 6 months and wait for a treatment or a vaccine.
All I’m saying is what choice do we have? And also that they know more than we do.
What do you think us wanting them to do different will do? Nothing. No impact.
At least they have a plan. That seems to make sense. Italy has no plan. It acted after it was out of control there. I don’t know whether there are better plans as I’m not an expert.
Everyone is frightened unless they’re an absolute idiot. But we are quite literally powerless other than keeping ourselves inside if that makes us feel better. |
OK, I will rephrase that, I hope that they are right and they lower the peak for months.
I am glad you think that they have a plan, as to me it looks like their plan is for them to do SFA and it is all down to us & the NHS. | | | |
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| Corona Virus on 18:14 - Mar 13 with 2217 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Corona Virus on 17:49 - Mar 13 by Jackfath |
This isn't a time for fighting one another. Let's pull together. |
No fighting going on on here, just discussion. | | | |
| Corona Virus on 18:16 - Mar 13 with 2212 views | Jackfath |
| Corona Virus on 18:14 - Mar 13 by A_Fans_Dad |
No fighting going on on here, just discussion. |
I was talking generally on PS, my friend.
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| Corona Virus on 18:23 - Mar 13 with 2195 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Corona Virus on 18:13 - Mar 13 by A_Fans_Dad |
OK, I will rephrase that, I hope that they are right and they lower the peak for months.
I am glad you think that they have a plan, as to me it looks like their plan is for them to do SFA and it is all down to us & the NHS. |
We both agree with the first bit.
On the second - again, all we can do is accept it when they say they have and explain what it is. As ultimately we can’t do anything else.
When we move to the distancing stuff and the lockdown stuff it will make us believe they are then ‘doing something’. But they keep saying it’s the timing that’s important. | | | |
| Corona Virus on 18:52 - Mar 13 with 2124 views | legoman |
My son works with Dr Jeremy Rossman who has set up Research Aid Networks in Chicago.
Jeremy has today added this article to his website for those who may be interested. He is a highly respected and well qualified virologist and whilst the article is written for a US audience it is still useful in my view.
https://researchaidnetworks.org/covid19/ |  |
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| Corona Virus on 18:55 - Mar 13 with 2107 views | Wingstandwood |
I've just spoken within the last hour with someone of very senior level from inside SW Wales NHS and she has described her working day today as "bedlam" with meetings etc, with more to come on Monday.
Looks things are now well and truly getting into motion for upcoming eventualities. |  |
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| Corona Virus on 19:02 - Mar 13 with 2094 views | Oldjack |
The way this is looking you'll all have to stay indoors for 2-3 weeks no matter what .Better get your tins in NOW ! |  |
| Prosser the Tosser dwells on Phil's bum hole like a rusty old hemorrhoid ,fact
You Greedy Bastards Get Out Of OUR Club!
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| Corona Virus on 19:08 - Mar 13 with 2076 views | Darran |
| Corona Virus on 19:02 - Mar 13 by Oldjack |
The way this is looking you'll all have to stay indoors for 2-3 weeks no matter what .Better get your tins in NOW ! |
Stock up on diapers. |  |
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| Corona Virus on 19:12 - Mar 13 with 2069 views | Oldjack |
| Corona Virus on 19:08 - Mar 13 by Darran |
Stock up on diapers. |
Yes yes ,you'd do well to stock up on those you scruffy kant | |
| Prosser the Tosser dwells on Phil's bum hole like a rusty old hemorrhoid ,fact
You Greedy Bastards Get Out Of OUR Club!
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| Corona Virus on 19:15 - Mar 13 with 2058 views | Darran |
| Corona Virus on 19:12 - Mar 13 by Oldjack |
Yes yes ,you'd do well to stock up on those you scruffy kant |
Piss pot. | |
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| Corona Virus on 19:28 - Mar 13 with 2042 views | exiledclaseboy |
No bog rolls in Tesco Fforestfach this afternoon. Or pasta. Nary a tin of baked beans to be found. People are nuts. [Post edited 13 Mar 2020 19:29]
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| Corona Virus on 19:45 - Mar 13 with 2008 views | MrSwerve |
Swansea uni stopping face to face lectures next Friday. |  |
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| Corona Virus on 19:47 - Mar 13 with 1999 views | exiledclaseboy |
The wife’s hospital appointment on Monday has been changed to a telephone conversation with the consultant. | |
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| Corona Virus on 20:02 - Mar 13 with 1979 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Corona Virus on 17:08 - Mar 13 by londonlisa2001 |
If that’s the case then a vaccine won’t work.
It is the case though with other viruses so there’s no reason to think it won’t be the case with this. |
Lisa, Flu Vaccines do not give you the Flu and do not prevent you getting the Flu, they only help to reduce the symptoms because your immune system recognises it and attacks it quicker.
But they don't work the same for everybody.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/prevent/misconceptions.htm
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/vaccines-work/vaccineeffect.htm
If having the Flu this year provides immunity why would anybody who has had it need a vaccination next year?
Because the immunity wears off with time, which is why they say you should have the Vaccination every year.
Viruses can live in the body after the symptoms disappear, Chicken Pox and Cold Sores are classic examples.
For all we know COV could be another. | | | |
| Corona Virus on 20:09 - Mar 13 with 1965 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Corona Virus on 18:52 - Mar 13 by legoman |
My son works with Dr Jeremy Rossman who has set up Research Aid Networks in Chicago.
Jeremy has today added this article to his website for those who may be interested. He is a highly respected and well qualified virologist and whilst the article is written for a US audience it is still useful in my view.
https://researchaidnetworks.org/covid19/ |
Only one obvious error, it started in November, not December. | | | |
| Corona Virus on 20:26 - Mar 13 with 1934 views | monmouth |
| Corona Virus on 19:45 - Mar 13 by MrSwerve |
Swansea uni stopping face to face lectures next Friday. |
Bristol stopping on Weds. |  |
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