| New Senedd initiative on 17:54 - Dec 20 with 1366 views | Flashberryjack |
The final nail in the lid of the Senedd's coffin. |  |
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| New Senedd initiative on 17:56 - Dec 20 with 1365 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
A few years ago in private industry we were given general guidance to look at fair representation from the pool ' we were fishing in '
So at entry level jobs you would get a report to say that 90 percent of your locality was White British, 51 percent female etc. etc.
Where we had large numbers of staff you could pick up on any potential recruiting bias, obviously in small numbers of specialist roles you can expect some variation.
I thinks it's fair to have an aspiration to have a workforce that reflects the community you serve, how you get there requires a bit of time and skill. For example, the Senedd should start by looking at the educational outcomes for all groups, does everyone have an even chance of gaining employment? |  |
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| New Senedd initiative on 18:01 - Dec 20 with 1347 views | felixstowe_jack |
Only 3 members of the Senedd are from Ethnic backgrounds and only 43 are female.
Looks like the Senedd is not very diverse. |  |
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| New Senedd initiative on 18:32 - Dec 20 with 1327 views | SullutaCreturned |
My big problem with this is it's discrimination. The people who get offered the jobs should get that offer on the basis of suitabiliity, not the colour of their skin. By starting this "initiative" they are telling any white Welsh person that sorry but you may be the best person for the job but we have to employ a non white person. How will that go down, specially amongst those already antagonistic to immigrants or ethnic minorities in general?
The best person for the job should be offered the job regardless of colour, religiion, sexual orientation or gender. | | | |
| New Senedd initiative on 18:37 - Dec 20 with 1322 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| New Senedd initiative on 18:32 - Dec 20 by SullutaCreturned |
My big problem with this is it's discrimination. The people who get offered the jobs should get that offer on the basis of suitabiliity, not the colour of their skin. By starting this "initiative" they are telling any white Welsh person that sorry but you may be the best person for the job but we have to employ a non white person. How will that go down, specially amongst those already antagonistic to immigrants or ethnic minorities in general?
The best person for the job should be offered the job regardless of colour, religiion, sexual orientation or gender. |
I think that's fair and you should have the data to understand how your organisation matches up to your catchment area to check for any potential bias. Even then you would have to start at organisations of 50 or more if 94 percent comes from one group in your catchment area. | |
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| New Senedd initiative on 18:47 - Dec 20 with 1312 views | Whiterockin |
| New Senedd initiative on 18:37 - Dec 20 by JACKMANANDBOY |
I think that's fair and you should have the data to understand how your organisation matches up to your catchment area to check for any potential bias. Even then you would have to start at organisations of 50 or more if 94 percent comes from one group in your catchment area. |
Ii is going to be even harder because the Senedd prefer, I could say insist, on Welsh speaking employees. |  | | |
| New Senedd initiative on 21:16 - Dec 20 with 1233 views | Boundy |
| New Senedd initiative on 18:47 - Dec 20 by Whiterockin |
Ii is going to be even harder because the Senedd prefer, I could say insist, on Welsh speaking employees. |
I'm saying porthcall | |
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| New Senedd initiative on 22:43 - Dec 20 with 1178 views | majorraglan |
| New Senedd initiative on 18:47 - Dec 20 by Whiterockin |
Ii is going to be even harder because the Senedd prefer, I could say insist, on Welsh speaking employees. |
There can and will be circumstances where certain posts are advertised for Welsh language speakers only, it will be rare but it will take place. Examples could include recruiting a Welsh speaker to deal with incoming phone calls in Welsh thereby ensuring the public body satisfies the legislative requirement to provide a service through the medium of Welsh. | | | |
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| New Senedd initiative on 22:56 - Dec 20 with 1164 views | Whiterockin |
| New Senedd initiative on 22:43 - Dec 20 by majorraglan |
There can and will be circumstances where certain posts are advertised for Welsh language speakers only, it will be rare but it will take place. Examples could include recruiting a Welsh speaker to deal with incoming phone calls in Welsh thereby ensuring the public body satisfies the legislative requirement to provide a service through the medium of Welsh. |
I can tell you that they interview and an inferior Welsh speaking candidate gets the job. A friend of my daughter is a PA in the Senedd. | | | |
| New Senedd initiative on 23:14 - Dec 20 with 1137 views | felixstowe_jack |
| New Senedd initiative on 18:32 - Dec 20 by SullutaCreturned |
My big problem with this is it's discrimination. The people who get offered the jobs should get that offer on the basis of suitabiliity, not the colour of their skin. By starting this "initiative" they are telling any white Welsh person that sorry but you may be the best person for the job but we have to employ a non white person. How will that go down, specially amongst those already antagonistic to immigrants or ethnic minorities in general?
The best person for the job should be offered the job regardless of colour, religiion, sexual orientation or gender. |
It already happens in Wales. In many local authorities, particularly North Wales, the best candidate is often not appointed if they can't speak Welsh. | |
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| New Senedd initiative on 23:15 - Dec 20 with 1135 views | Boundy |
| New Senedd initiative on 22:43 - Dec 20 by majorraglan |
There can and will be circumstances where certain posts are advertised for Welsh language speakers only, it will be rare but it will take place. Examples could include recruiting a Welsh speaker to deal with incoming phone calls in Welsh thereby ensuring the public body satisfies the legislative requirement to provide a service through the medium of Welsh. |
That'll be handy when the need arises to use Welsh as the primary language when recording pre-recorded messages when phoning your doctor .  | |
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| New Senedd initiative on 16:30 - Dec 21 with 999 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| New Senedd initiative on 18:47 - Dec 20 by Whiterockin |
Ii is going to be even harder because the Senedd prefer, I could say insist, on Welsh speaking employees. |
Linguistic ability is a skill. It is generally considered better to be ABLE to speak more languages. This is valid because everyone in Wales is given the opportunity to learn Welsh at a young age when it is so much easier to learn.
Wales has been run by Welsh speakers for most of the recent years. |  |
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| New Senedd initiative on 16:32 - Dec 21 with 995 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| New Senedd initiative on 23:15 - Dec 20 by Boundy |
That'll be handy when the need arises to use Welsh as the primary language when recording pre-recorded messages when phoning your doctor . |
I am annoyed when I drive over Prince of Wales bridge (27x). I live with it and accept it and do not moan. | |
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| New Senedd initiative on 21:28 - Dec 21 with 944 views | SullutaCreturned |
| New Senedd initiative on 16:30 - Dec 21 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Linguistic ability is a skill. It is generally considered better to be ABLE to speak more languages. This is valid because everyone in Wales is given the opportunity to learn Welsh at a young age when it is so much easier to learn.
Wales has been run by Welsh speakers for most of the recent years. |
England has been run by English speakers, sow what?
Mind you, look at the state our country is in, maybe we'd be better with German or French speakers. | | | |
| New Senedd initiative on 08:14 - Dec 22 with 881 views | Boundy |
| New Senedd initiative on 16:32 - Dec 21 by ReslovenSwan1 |
I am annoyed when I drive over Prince of Wales bridge (27x). I live with it and accept it and do not moan. |
You get annoyed over a sign , me, the the self imposed traffic jams because some one wanted to save the newts but not the nation. | |
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| New Senedd initiative on 13:16 - Dec 22 with 837 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| New Senedd initiative on 17:54 - Dec 20 by Flashberryjack |
The final nail in the lid of the Senedd's coffin. |
You can vote them out. It is democracy.. | |
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| New Senedd initiative on 18:42 - Dec 22 with 769 views | Flashberryjack |
| New Senedd initiative on 13:16 - Dec 22 by ReslovenSwan1 |
You can vote them out. It is democracy.. |
Well I never new that. | |
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| New Senedd initiative on 22:33 - Dec 22 with 706 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| New Senedd initiative on 18:42 - Dec 22 by Flashberryjack |
Well I never new that. |
It took 600 years to get the Senedd. It will not be given up easily. They can do better for sure. The Senedd is not the problem but the people the public vote for. These days the big g English cities are run by Asians. | |
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| New Senedd initiative on 18:33 - Dec 24 with 593 views | SullutaCreturned |
| New Senedd initiative on 22:33 - Dec 22 by ReslovenSwan1 |
It took 600 years to get the Senedd. It will not be given up easily. They can do better for sure. The Senedd is not the problem but the people the public vote for. These days the big g English cities are run by Asians. |
Can you clarify your last sentence, it could be taken as being racist. Asian or not those people are British but if you are making a dig at them for not being white... | | | |
| New Senedd initiative on 18:45 - Dec 24 with 587 views | Gwyn737 |
| New Senedd initiative on 22:33 - Dec 22 by ReslovenSwan1 |
It took 600 years to get the Senedd. It will not be given up easily. They can do better for sure. The Senedd is not the problem but the people the public vote for. These days the big g English cities are run by Asians. |
Blimey. | | | |
| New Senedd initiative on 20:07 - Dec 24 with 549 views | Whiterockin |
| New Senedd initiative on 22:33 - Dec 22 by ReslovenSwan1 |
It took 600 years to get the Senedd. It will not be given up easily. They can do better for sure. The Senedd is not the problem but the people the public vote for. These days the big g English cities are run by Asians. |
Not like you to be racist and get away with it. | | | |
| New Senedd initiative on 20:29 - Dec 24 with 533 views | Kilkennyjack |
| New Senedd initiative on 08:14 - Dec 22 by Boundy |
You get annoyed over a sign , me, the the self imposed traffic jams because some one wanted to save the newts but not the nation. |
The sign was put there by brown nose welsh britnat Tories, as we know it was never the name of the bridge.
It’s part of a calculated culture war.
England projects its power by promoting Britain from a centralised London power base.
Too afraid to have an Investiture for that William though, they know it will be a PR disaster.
Read it can only go ahead at Cardiff Castle after the events 1969.
It will be the recruiting sergeant for YesCymru/Indy, and they know it.
Time to scrap the charade and the Royal family all together.
Apart from that Harry, you would want a beer with any of them. |  |
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| New Senedd initiative on 20:31 - Dec 24 with 527 views | SullutaCreturned |
| New Senedd initiative on 20:29 - Dec 24 by Kilkennyjack |
The sign was put there by brown nose welsh britnat Tories, as we know it was never the name of the bridge.
It’s part of a calculated culture war.
England projects its power by promoting Britain from a centralised London power base.
Too afraid to have an Investiture for that William though, they know it will be a PR disaster.
Read it can only go ahead at Cardiff Castle after the events 1969.
It will be the recruiting sergeant for YesCymru/Indy, and they know it.
Time to scrap the charade and the Royal family all together.
Apart from that Harry, you would want a beer with any of them. |
I wouldn't have abeer with Harry now, either. | | | |
| New Senedd initiative on 20:46 - Dec 24 with 510 views | Kilkennyjack |
| New Senedd initiative on 20:31 - Dec 24 by SullutaCreturned |
I wouldn't have abeer with Harry now, either. |
Whats he done ? 🤷♂️ | |
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| New Senedd initiative on 01:34 - Dec 27 with 364 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| New Senedd initiative on 18:33 - Dec 24 by SullutaCreturned |
Can you clarify your last sentence, it could be taken as being racist. Asian or not those people are British but if you are making a dig at them for not being white... |
Sadiq Khan Is of Asian heritage. It is a fact.
I do not walk on egg shells when talking about Asians. Why should I? The big English cities have big Asian communities. Some of my h neighbours are Asian. I speak Turkish myself to a decent level and lived in Asia for 7 years.
I tell you what racism is, and racist chants are sung by Swansea fans home and away. It is an embarrassment to me.
West Welsh people do not understand racism because it confuses them. They even get nervous saying Asian. | |
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