| Match Thread, Dale v In form top of the table Barnet 12:28 - Feb 22 with 6439 views | James1980 |
Sat on a train from London to Manchester thought I would start a match Thread. I notice there hasn't been any pre match interview with any players or members of the coaching staff. Hopefully that isn't due to a lack of confidence within the squad about getting anything from this game. |  |
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| Match Thread, Dale v In form top of the table Barnet on 12:37 - Feb 22 with 4663 views | Rodingdale |
Well the Barnet entourage overnighted in the NG - looking lean mean and confident. They’ve added a bit of brawn in Jan up front with Lee Ndlovu, bought to replace Kabamba. Be a tough game for Dale today. | | | |
| Match Thread, Dale v In form top of the table Barnet on 12:55 - Feb 22 with 4605 views | EllDale |
I wonder how much Wednesday night has taken out of the team, mentally as well as physically? | | | |
| Match Thread, Dale v In form top of the table Barnet on 12:58 - Feb 22 with 4585 views | D_Alien |
| Match Thread, Dale v In form top of the table Barnet on 12:55 - Feb 22 by EllDale |
I wonder how much Wednesday night has taken out of the team, mentally as well as physically? |
Nowhere near the amount the manager has mentally taken away from them |  |
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| Match Thread, Dale v In form top of the table Barnet on 13:26 - Feb 22 with 4503 views | James1980 |
| Match Thread, Dale v In form top of the table Barnet on 12:58 - Feb 22 by D_Alien |
Nowhere near the amount the manager has mentally taken away from them |
What do you mean by that, I was under the impression that mentally the squad is in a good place. Although the last game I saw live not via stream was Worthing away. | |
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| Match Thread, Dale v In form top of the table Barnet on 13:39 - Feb 22 with 4453 views | D_Alien |
| Match Thread, Dale v In form top of the table Barnet on 13:26 - Feb 22 by James1980 |
What do you mean by that, I was under the impression that mentally the squad is in a good place. Although the last game I saw live not via stream was Worthing away. |
The draining of all initiative, spontaneity, JOY from kicking a football for a living
As pros, the players have careers to watch so they're likely to go along with things to a certain extent. Not a single one of them is going to come out and say "i'd rather be playing a different style of football" especially the younger ones who might well've been coached along similar lines since they were kids
It's a bit like the recent "Be Kind" meme, except we're kind to the opposition | |
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| Match Thread, Dale v In form top of the table Barnet on 13:48 - Feb 22 with 4401 views | Daley_Lama |
Post match notes from the away game.
Please don’t gift Barnet a goal in the first 5 minutes by playing it out from the back unsuccessfully.
Please hit a barn door numerous times when presented.
Please remember Ian Henderson is quicker in brain than most defenders are in foot. |  |
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| Match Thread, Dale v In form top of the table Barnet on 14:04 - Feb 22 with 4309 views | James1980 |
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| Match Thread, Dale v In form top of the table Barnet on 15:12 - Feb 22 with 4064 views | Dalenet |
| Match Thread, Dale v In form top of the table Barnet on 13:48 - Feb 22 by Daley_Lama |
Post match notes from the away game.
Please don’t gift Barnet a goal in the first 5 minutes by playing it out from the back unsuccessfully.
Please hit a barn door numerous times when presented.
Please remember Ian Henderson is quicker in brain than most defenders are in foot. |
mmmmm ! | | | |
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| Match Thread, Dale v In form top of the table Barnet on 15:54 - Feb 22 with 3758 views | DaleFan7 |
More boring dross. Punished by a clinical team way ahead of where we are. | | | |
| Match Thread, Dale v In form top of the table Barnet on 16:04 - Feb 22 with 3639 views | CarbonDale |
There's simply no excuse for us not having a proper go this second half, if we see more of the same then it's Big Jim out for me sad to say. | | | |
| Match Thread, Dale v In form top of the table Barnet on 16:48 - Feb 22 with 3320 views | Rodingdale |
Jim’s bullshit bingo presser will be entertaining 🤣🤣🤣 | | | |
| Match Thread, Dale v In form top of the table Barnet on 17:06 - Feb 22 with 3158 views | 442Dale |
Awful. Don’t even know what we were attempting to do today, we neither kept the ball or even attempted to build attacks. Defensively all over the place too.
To continually rotate players around the same bloody formation is tactically inept. It makes every sub like for like and the opposition don’t ever have to think.
Results business, we’re not getting them and the players now look lost. |  |
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| Match Thread, Dale v In form top of the table Barnet on 17:06 - Feb 22 with 3159 views | Edindale |
Chasing the game from the 5th minute and a dreadful second half.
Barnet are a good blueprint for how to get out of this league.
Respect the defeat against the champions elect I guess. | | | |
| Match Thread, Dale v In form top of the table Barnet on 17:10 - Feb 22 with 3107 views | TalkingSutty |
| Match Thread, Dale v In form top of the table Barnet on 17:06 - Feb 22 by Edindale |
Chasing the game from the 5th minute and a dreadful second half.
Barnet are a good blueprint for how to get out of this league.
Respect the defeat against the champions elect I guess. |
Total surrender that, we need a new manager. Easiest game of the season for Barnet. Lose next Saturday and it's season over. Good luck selling season tickets with McNulty and his side kick in the dugout.
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| Match Thread, Dale v In form top of the table Barnet on 17:34 - Feb 22 with 2830 views | judd |
My mate.summed up.the substitutions as an attempt to defend our defeat.
Spot on.
The system.is not delivering results.
Change it.
Give the opposition something to worry about. |  |
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| Match Thread, Dale v In form top of the table Barnet on 17:42 - Feb 22 with 2683 views | jonahwhereru |
D_Alien, when it comes to bed wetting even I need a catheter after that! | | | |
| Match Thread, Dale v In form top of the table Barnet on 17:43 - Feb 22 with 2648 views | since58 |
| Match Thread, Dale v In form top of the table Barnet on 17:34 - Feb 22 by judd |
My mate.summed up.the substitutions as an attempt to defend our defeat.
Spot on.
The system.is not delivering results.
Change it.
Give the opposition something to worry about. |
Judd . There's no shame in being beat it's HOW
you. lose and that performance if that's what you call it was totally unacceptable . | | | |
| Match Thread, Dale v In form top of the table Barnet on 17:44 - Feb 22 with 2618 views | D_Alien |
| Match Thread, Dale v In form top of the table Barnet on 17:42 - Feb 22 by jonahwhereru |
D_Alien, when it comes to bed wetting even I need a catheter after that! |
SG might oblige
A three-year contract for an unproven manager is taking the piss | |
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| Match Thread, Dale v In form top of the table Barnet on 18:13 - Feb 22 with 2315 views | judd |
| Match Thread, Dale v In form top of the table Barnet on 17:43 - Feb 22 by since58 |
Judd . There's no shame in being beat it's HOW
you. lose and that performance if that's what you call it was totally unacceptable . |
That's exactly what I'm saying.
Zero ambition. Zero nouse
I will never be able to defend any element of that pathetic effort today. | |
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| Match Thread, Dale v In form top of the table Barnet on 18:35 - Feb 22 with 2124 views | Rodingdale |
| Match Thread, Dale v In form top of the table Barnet on 18:13 - Feb 22 by judd |
That's exactly what I'm saying.
Zero ambition. Zero nouse
I will never be able to defend any element of that pathetic effort today. |
Indeed, putting Hendo on when we’re 3-0 down. A response to fans, why not give him more game time. Not when we’re three down Jim. But we know Jim thinks we’re stupid. ‘There you go - you want Hendo - you get Hendo’. So Jim was right - it didn’t alter the outcome.
Taking Allarakia off was hubris on Jim part. Rodney or Mitchell yes, but Allarakia - no Jim wrong turn.
No the game was lost before it started - Barnet motivated, confident, driven. Dale told by their manager that they are overperforming, tired doing well. Do your best lads. - keep the score down.
‘Don’t worry I’ll clap the fans, like we’re on track - like this is some master plan being delivered by a genius’
Then we woke up and realised Jim is a rookie manager who has spent 90 games learning nothing.
Up the Dale and McNulty out. Now. | | | |
| Match Thread, Dale v In form top of the table Barnet on 18:50 - Feb 22 with 1935 views | D_Alien |
| Match Thread, Dale v In form top of the table Barnet on 18:35 - Feb 22 by Rodingdale |
Indeed, putting Hendo on when we’re 3-0 down. A response to fans, why not give him more game time. Not when we’re three down Jim. But we know Jim thinks we’re stupid. ‘There you go - you want Hendo - you get Hendo’. So Jim was right - it didn’t alter the outcome.
Taking Allarakia off was hubris on Jim part. Rodney or Mitchell yes, but Allarakia - no Jim wrong turn.
No the game was lost before it started - Barnet motivated, confident, driven. Dale told by their manager that they are overperforming, tired doing well. Do your best lads. - keep the score down.
‘Don’t worry I’ll clap the fans, like we’re on track - like this is some master plan being delivered by a genius’
Then we woke up and realised Jim is a rookie manager who has spent 90 games learning nothing.
Up the Dale and McNulty out. Now. |
There's a gaping hole in the football decision-making at the club
The Ogdens aren't steeped in the game, and seem to have defaulted the football decisions to the previous regime - who themselves weren't steeped in the game
It showed before, and it's showing now
So, who's going to take that decision? I really don't think the Ogdens would want to take that on - just yet | |
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| Match Thread, Dale v In form top of the table Barnet on 18:54 - Feb 22 with 1876 views | sooty_dale |
7 shots on target in the last 5 league games, 1 goal scored. One of those games against a team rock bottom and have conceded 73 goals in the league. Jim likes stats, think that speaks for itself. |  | | |
| Match Thread, Dale v In form top of the table Barnet on 19:28 - Feb 22 with 1572 views | 442Dale |
| Match Thread, Dale v In form top of the table Barnet on 18:54 - Feb 22 by sooty_dale |
7 shots on target in the last 5 league games, 1 goal scored. One of those games against a team rock bottom and have conceded 73 goals in the league. Jim likes stats, think that speaks for itself. |
3 points in 5 games too. It’s obvious to everyone that what we are doing is not going to get us enough goals and points yet nothing is visibly changing. Especially during games.
To not even try a three man midfield, if only to help out East and Gilmour is a choice which is on the manager. To not try a front two, again a managerial decision. To not take off a central defender and go to a back four, manager’s choice.
All simple adjustments which the players would immediately recognise as changes designed to assist them and increase problems for the opposition. All season long we haven’t attempted this no matter the type of football we play, and it’s creating a predictability that frustrates supporters.
Any manager who wants to progress in the game has to illustrate they have different game plans. The evidence is everywhere - look how Hill shifted when we went to L1/at the highest level when teams started shifting their full backs into midfield. Then we can consider the best example right now of a manager who is rigidly sticking to a formation and how that’s working out - Amorim at Man Utd.
McNulty’s insistence on playing the 3-4-2-1 is hard to explain. He has played differently last season but now we seem to be totally Amorimed into sticking with something that isn’t working as well as it has. Something which is impacting players, supporters and results. | |
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| Match Thread, Dale v In form top of the table Barnet on 19:55 - Feb 22 with 1369 views | Creepy |
Top 7 team with a bottom 4 manager. The last 5 games tells us all we need to know about whether the club should be making changes. Apart from Jim being a nice guy and taking over in difficult circumstances, there can be no reason for him to stay. I'd have loved Jim to be a success but he hasn't got what it takes to take us to the level Barnet showed today |  | | |
| Match Thread, Dale v In form top of the table Barnet on 19:59 - Feb 22 with 1330 views | dingdangblue |
In his interview Jim says Barnet are the best side to come to Spotland in his time in charge - including league 2. They looked functional to me - but nothing special. Quite direct, pressed our defenders, good set pieces, took their chances. We basically made them look like world beaters. |  |
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