| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich 13:02 - Feb 14 with 119093 views | loftboy |
Should the worst happen and the Russians invade, I suspect that many rich Russians in the UK will be part of the proposed sanctions, could this affect our foes down the road? |  |
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| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 13:16 - Feb 14 with 20936 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
I doubt it.
British based and property owning Russians are donors to both the Parties, one of which is skint as fck.
We already sanction Russia to high heaven, except the donor providing ones. |  | | |
| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 13:28 - Feb 14 with 20874 views | HAYESBOY |
| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 13:16 - Feb 14 by BazzaInTheLoft |
I doubt it.
British based and property owning Russians are donors to both the Parties, one of which is skint as fck.
We already sanction Russia to high heaven, except the donor providing ones. |
Not so sure. Would agree normally, but if the US of A says jump...... |  |
| Smells like a trout farm in here |
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| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 13:36 - Feb 14 with 20838 views | wood_hoop |
Listening to news reports it seems if the Ukraine will agree not to join NATO for ten years a way to keep the peace.....not so sure myself. |  | | |
| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 13:38 - Feb 14 with 20816 views | QPunkR |
Didn't Abramovic acquire (heh-hem) Portuguese citizenship recently? |  |
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| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 14:00 - Feb 14 with 20766 views | daveB |
if the worst happens and we enter world war 3 then who owns a football club down the road will be the least of our problems |  | | |
| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 14:03 - Feb 14 with 20743 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 14:00 - Feb 14 by daveB |
if the worst happens and we enter world war 3 then who owns a football club down the road will be the least of our problems |
Would be very QPR to slip into second place moments before being disintegrated by a thermonuclear device.
I'm sure people would still accuse Warburton of making excuses afterward. | | | |
| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 14:08 - Feb 14 with 20713 views | LythamR |
what happens to Chelsea and abramovitch will be the least of our concerns |  | | |
| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 14:31 - Feb 14 with 20610 views | Juzzie |
From the BBC;
"In President Putin's eyes, the West promised back in 1990 that Nato would expand "not an inch to the east" but did so anyway."
I think Putin doesn't want Ukraine to join NATO, ever. He would like it to go back to pre 1997 days but, of course, that'll never happen. Can't see the west or even those 14 countries saying "OK then". |  | | |
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| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 14:41 - Feb 14 with 20541 views | Toast_R |
| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 14:03 - Feb 14 by BazzaInTheLoft |
Would be very QPR to slip into second place moments before being disintegrated by a thermonuclear device.
I'm sure people would still accuse Warburton of making excuses afterward. |
At least the site proposals a new stadium may have widened... |  | | |
| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 14:44 - Feb 14 with 20521 views | NewBee |
| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 13:38 - Feb 14 by QPunkR |
Didn't Abramovic acquire (heh-hem) Portuguese citizenship recently? |
Maybe, maybe not?
https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/sports/portugal-opens-inquiry-into-roman-abram
He definitely has Israeli citizenship which, with his being Jewish, will be watertight. And he's spending a lot of money there, so they should keep him right with the USA whatever happens.
For whatever else you think about him, he is a VERY smart operator. When the USSR broke up, Abramovic seized his chance to be one of the new oligarchs surrounding (i.e. bankrolling) the new boss, Yeltsin.
Then when Putin took over, the first thing he did was to put his own oligarchs in in place of Yeltsin's mob, who are all either in jail, in exile or in their grave.
All except Abramovic, who is reportedly as close to Putin as he was to Yeltsin. [Post edited 14 Feb 2022 14:45]
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| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 14:51 - Feb 14 with 20491 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
I'm bailing out of this thread. | | | |
| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 15:21 - Feb 14 with 20408 views | GloryHunter |
The Conservative Party gets so many donations from its Russian friends, I can't see them wanting to clamp down on any of it. |  | | |
| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 15:41 - Feb 14 with 20323 views | kensalriser |
| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 13:16 - Feb 14 by BazzaInTheLoft |
I doubt it.
British based and property owning Russians are donors to both the Parties, one of which is skint as fck.
We already sanction Russia to high heaven, except the donor providing ones. |
What are these sanctions, exactly?
They don't seem to be having any more effect than a spectator shouting 'move you cnts' at a poorly performing QPR team. |  |
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| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 15:55 - Feb 14 with 20269 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 13:38 - Feb 14 by QPunkR |
Didn't Abramovic acquire (heh-hem) Portuguese citizenship recently? |
He's also an Israeli now. |  |
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| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 16:02 - Feb 14 with 20149 views | Boston |
Click fingers, take it away Mel, one two three…’all out superpower confrontation’… | |
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| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 16:33 - Feb 14 with 20131 views | sevenhoop |
| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 13:28 - Feb 14 by HAYESBOY |
Not so sure. Would agree normally, but if the US of A says jump...... |
not sure it matters any more. if he hadn't spotted Chelsea from his 'copter when he was going to buy Spurs, they could well have gone under. Would have been fabulous news. Now Chelsea is a big brand of its own and would command a huge price from multiple suitors if it needed them |  | | |
| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 16:53 - Feb 14 with 20062 views | CLAREMAN1995 |
| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 14:51 - Feb 14 by BazzaInTheLoft |
I'm bailing out of this thread. |
Heading for the underground shelter Bazz keep that door slightly open please I might fly over myself |  | | |
| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 17:34 - Feb 14 with 19934 views | Paddyhoops |
| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 13:36 - Feb 14 by wood_hoop |
Listening to news reports it seems if the Ukraine will agree not to join NATO for ten years a way to keep the peace.....not so sure myself. |
According to a reporter on five live . It takes a number of years to join after an application has been made and as they are officially at war with Russia for the past eight years , they won't be allowed to join anyway. | | | |
| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 18:15 - Feb 14 with 19835 views | GloryHunter |
Russian donors give money to the Tories because they admire us, says minister Brandon Lewis.
A Cabinet minister has defended the Conservative Party’s acceptance of donations from wealthy individuals with Russian links.
Brandon Lewis, who as Tory chairman personally received £25,000 from one of the backers, said the donors had given the money because they admired the party and the Prime Minister.
The Northern Ireland Secretary made the comments after it was revealed that two Conservative MPs on the intelligence committee, which this week published its Russia report on interference in UK elections, and 14 ministers had accepted cash with links to the country.
Six members of the Cabinet and eight junior ministers received tens of thousands of pounds from donors or businesses connected to Russia, The Times reported.
Mr Lewis received £25,000 from Lubov Chernukhin, a banker and the wife of President Vladimir Putin’s former deputy finance minister, and £23,000 from Alexander Temerko, a former chief of a Russian arms company, while 13 other Cabinet ministers had also been given “large” sums.
https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/russia-report-conservative-tory-donors-brandon | | | |
| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 22:29 - Feb 22 with 19170 views | DWQPR |
After Boris’s announcement in the House this afternoon about initial sanctions against Russian banks and three Russian individuals, Dame Margaret Hodge posed the question about the owner of North Battersea and why he wasn’t being targeted and his UK assets frozen. Now that would be an interesting experiment seeing that lot out in some kind of cryogenic state for the next 20 years. | |
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| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 22:37 - Feb 22 with 19118 views | Superhoop83 |
| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 22:29 - Feb 22 by DWQPR |
After Boris’s announcement in the House this afternoon about initial sanctions against Russian banks and three Russian individuals, Dame Margaret Hodge posed the question about the owner of North Battersea and why he wasn’t being targeted and his UK assets frozen. Now that would be an interesting experiment seeing that lot out in some kind of cryogenic state for the next 20 years. |
I assume that was before Johnson rushed out of the chamber when Chris Bryant asked him to correct the lie he had just told about Abramovich having been sanctioned? |  |
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| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 22:47 - Feb 22 with 19000 views | Boston |
Everyone in the US knows about UK raines. | |
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| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 08:59 - Feb 23 with 18689 views | izlingtonhoop |
| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 16:02 - Feb 14 by Boston |
Click fingers, take it away Mel, one two three…’all out superpower confrontation’… |
"If I had a bomb and a place to drop it from,
I'd drop it on you,
World Leaders!"
Funny the things one remembers... |  | | |
| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 09:01 - Feb 23 with 18676 views | izlingtonhoop |
| Russia, Ukraine & Abramovich on 08:59 - Feb 23 by izlingtonhoop |
"If I had a bomb and a place to drop it from,
I'd drop it on you,
World Leaders!"
Funny the things one remembers... |
I've had it up to here,
With yer verbal diarrhoea,
You pow er crazy bleeders... | | | |
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