| What been occuring ?????????????? 13:30 - Feb 24 with 20364 views | 2bluehoops |
Just seen sommat on news about disturbances in Rochdale regarding the daki child sex scandal whatsit,any info ? |  | | |  |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 19:37 - Feb 26 with 1600 views | DaleView |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 14:42 - Feb 24 by SuddenLad |
Can you actually read? |
What relevance is all this on a football related forum? | | | |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 20:56 - Feb 26 with 1551 views | ceme_ender |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 16:18 - Feb 26 by dalenumber2 |
So what about all the decent honest Asians in Rochdale? Why punish all of them for the actions of a minority ?
This sort of mentality is dangerous... very dangerous.
Like I said earlier, if these alleged criminals were white, would the reaction be different? Of course it would. |
what is dangerous....very dangerous is that a large part of our community see's it as socially acceptable to rape young white girls, even the ones not getting involved that knew it was happenning did nothing to prevent this as it just o.k to them, normal procedure, which is very worrying. | | | |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 21:01 - Feb 26 with 1546 views | 2bluehoops |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 20:56 - Feb 26 by ceme_ender |
what is dangerous....very dangerous is that a large part of our community see's it as socially acceptable to rape young white girls, even the ones not getting involved that knew it was happenning did nothing to prevent this as it just o.k to them, normal procedure, which is very worrying. |
It is up to the elders to learn their young the ways and laws of this land,they live here and have to abide by the laws in this country.Alas this will never happen because we are now around 50yrs down the line and things are as bad as its ever been,quite simply,its not working. | | | |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 21:15 - Feb 26 with 1533 views | ColDale |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 21:01 - Feb 26 by 2bluehoops |
It is up to the elders to learn their young the ways and laws of this land,they live here and have to abide by the laws in this country.Alas this will never happen because we are now around 50yrs down the line and things are as bad as its ever been,quite simply,its not working. |
there is a very real danger about using this as justification to say that there is an issue with the Asian population in this country. Whatever crimes have been committed, and there's no doubt some horrific ones that have taken place in a number of incidents and people are justifiably shocked and repulsed, wide swept condemnation of a large number on the actions of a few will not work and would be akin to blaming all football supporters on the actions of the minority of hooligans. When the EDL turn up in Heywood in the next few weeks, which they undoubtedly will, will they help the situation or make matters worse? And are they really showing concern or are they exploiting a situation to satisfy their own needs? |  | | |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 21:20 - Feb 26 with 1525 views | dalenumber2 |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 20:56 - Feb 26 by ceme_ender |
what is dangerous....very dangerous is that a large part of our community see's it as socially acceptable to rape young white girls, even the ones not getting involved that knew it was happenning did nothing to prevent this as it just o.k to them, normal procedure, which is very worrying. |
A large part of our community? I don't think so.
Col's post is spot on. |  | | |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 21:38 - Feb 26 with 1508 views | topoff |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 21:15 - Feb 26 by ColDale |
there is a very real danger about using this as justification to say that there is an issue with the Asian population in this country. Whatever crimes have been committed, and there's no doubt some horrific ones that have taken place in a number of incidents and people are justifiably shocked and repulsed, wide swept condemnation of a large number on the actions of a few will not work and would be akin to blaming all football supporters on the actions of the minority of hooligans. When the EDL turn up in Heywood in the next few weeks, which they undoubtedly will, will they help the situation or make matters worse? And are they really showing concern or are they exploiting a situation to satisfy their own needs? |
I think we have a view that the EDL are just a bunch of knuckle heads and in many cases this is correct but to be fair they are a group of people who are generally outraged at the state of this country and in my opinion some of their points are very valid, just the way they go about it doesnt make them very credible. I am unsure what situation there is to exploit? They demonstrate to get their point across, I dont think they are clever enough to exploit any situation to be honest. | | | |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 21:45 - Feb 26 with 1497 views | 2bluehoops |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 21:15 - Feb 26 by ColDale |
there is a very real danger about using this as justification to say that there is an issue with the Asian population in this country. Whatever crimes have been committed, and there's no doubt some horrific ones that have taken place in a number of incidents and people are justifiably shocked and repulsed, wide swept condemnation of a large number on the actions of a few will not work and would be akin to blaming all football supporters on the actions of the minority of hooligans. When the EDL turn up in Heywood in the next few weeks, which they undoubtedly will, will they help the situation or make matters worse? And are they really showing concern or are they exploiting a situation to satisfy their own needs? |
There are issues,thats for sure and i doubt anyone can deny it,in all walks of society too but these issues need to be acted upon.People have mentioned that this is the tip of the iceberg regarding child grooming in the asian community.If people feel this to be true then surely the goverment may start thinking along the lines of some sort of national programme,aimed at flushing this problem out.Maybe people would feel differently. | | | |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 21:52 - Feb 26 with 1482 views | ceme_ender |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 21:20 - Feb 26 by dalenumber2 |
A large part of our community? I don't think so.
Col's post is spot on. |
the muslim community forms a large part of the town.
this has been happening for too long all over the country in area's that have a large muslim population, bradford, nelson, nottingham,derby and now rochdale, these are just where there they have been caught and there has been a trial, this is a problem, you can't just close your eye's and pretend it's not happening because it is, right on our doorstop. edl/bnp will serve very little purpose if they come to heywood. there is no real solution to this except to educate your duaghters to the risks although the girls that are targeted are often not fortunate enough to have parents to do this. | | | |
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| What been occuring ?????????????? on 21:57 - Feb 26 with 1477 views | Doris |
the koran will kill this country .
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| What been occuring ?????????????? on 22:01 - Feb 26 with 1468 views | dalenumber2 |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 21:52 - Feb 26 by ceme_ender |
the muslim community forms a large part of the town.
this has been happening for too long all over the country in area's that have a large muslim population, bradford, nelson, nottingham,derby and now rochdale, these are just where there they have been caught and there has been a trial, this is a problem, you can't just close your eye's and pretend it's not happening because it is, right on our doorstop. edl/bnp will serve very little purpose if they come to heywood. there is no real solution to this except to educate your duaghters to the risks although the girls that are targeted are often not fortunate enough to have parents to do this. |
You said (sic) "a large part of our community see's it as socially acceptable to rape young white girls"
Are you saying that all the Muslims in Rochdale think this way?! | | | |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 22:07 - Feb 26 with 1460 views | 2bluehoops |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 22:01 - Feb 26 by dalenumber2 |
You said (sic) "a large part of our community see's it as socially acceptable to rape young white girls"
Are you saying that all the Muslims in Rochdale think this way?! |
Then why are they not turning them in to the police ? Why are they not kicking up a fuss about their holier than thow muslim faith being tarnished by their own. | | | |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 22:19 - Feb 26 with 1441 views | ceme_ender |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 22:01 - Feb 26 by dalenumber2 |
You said (sic) "a large part of our community see's it as socially acceptable to rape young white girls"
Are you saying that all the Muslims in Rochdale think this way?! |
Not all, but if there were 40 to 50 men involved with these girls, of all ages and numerous more that knew about it and did nothing, i'm not naive enough to think that this is the only occurrence so your going to be looking at hundreds of men who are involved in this sort of behaviour and probably more if they had the opportunity. for a small town this a lot. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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| What been occuring ?????????????? on 22:20 - Feb 26 with 1439 views | dalenumber2 |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 22:07 - Feb 26 by 2bluehoops |
Then why are they not turning them in to the police ? Why are they not kicking up a fuss about their holier than thow muslim faith being tarnished by their own. |
"They" probably don't all know about them ! Do you know what all the white people in Rochdale or even your street are doing?
I give up. Back to the football threads for me. | | | |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 22:27 - Feb 26 with 1428 views | 2bluehoops |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 22:20 - Feb 26 by dalenumber2 |
"They" probably don't all know about them ! Do you know what all the white people in Rochdale or even your street are doing?
I give up. Back to the football threads for me. |
So what your saying is that all the men involved just happened to be a bunch of mates who had a little hush hush sideline going and word was not on the streets that if you fancied an hour with a young white girl for £20 etc etc......Are you really so green lookin. | | | |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 22:31 - Feb 26 with 1422 views | off2div1 |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 22:20 - Feb 26 by dalenumber2 |
"They" probably don't all know about them ! Do you know what all the white people in Rochdale or even your street are doing?
I give up. Back to the football threads for me. |
What nationality or ethnic origin is Mr Garry Glitter |  | | |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 22:34 - Feb 26 with 1417 views | 2bluehoops |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 22:31 - Feb 26 by off2div1 |
What nationality or ethnic origin is Mr Garry Glitter |
Not sure but he kept askin if we wanted to be in his gang. | | | |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 07:47 - Feb 27 with 1336 views | JumeirahDale |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 21:57 - Feb 26 by Doris |
the koran will kill this country .
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Have you read it? Or are you basing that on Call of Duty: Modern Warfare?
2bluehoops - if you haven't had a read of the Koran, I'd genuinely encourage you to do so. If you can do that and still spout your ill informed bile then fair enough, but don't base your entire understanding of the Muslim faith on 11 individuals on trial in Rochdale. |  | | |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 08:52 - Feb 27 with 1317 views | HK_Dale |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 22:07 - Feb 26 by 2bluehoops |
Then why are they not turning them in to the police ? Why are they not kicking up a fuss about their holier than thow muslim faith being tarnished by their own. |
So everytime someone is convicted of a crime of a similar nature from the caucasian communty we should all go round to there house, terrorise the families of that individual and the rest of the people in that community for not turning them in. Don't be so niave as to thing the rest of the Asian community in rochdale knew what was going on |  | | |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 08:55 - Feb 27 with 1315 views | HK_Dale |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 15:07 - Feb 26 by ceme_ender |
There were forty to fifty men involved in this, only 11 could be identified and are on trial, whether they are under new management or not two of the men on trial were still working in heywood up to the trial and it is very likely that some of the other people involved are still working there. the people of heywood are just expressing there understandable anger and making it clear that these men/paedophile/rapists are not wanted here, if you think it is o.k and your happy for them to be in rochdale that is up to you, i don't agree with the smashing of windows and damage to businesses but there is no way a single penny will be going to any of the taxi comapnys or take aways hopefully this will drive them out and you can welcome them back to rochdale. |
I never once said it was ok for them to be commiting these crimes. What i said was its wrong to punish people that have tenuous links to these people for a crime they didn't commit. By the fact you concede that you don't think its right for them to be smashing windows etc. you accept my argumentation is right | | | |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 09:57 - Feb 27 with 1286 views | Doris |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 07:47 - Feb 27 by JumeirahDale |
Have you read it? Or are you basing that on Call of Duty: Modern Warfare?
2bluehoops - if you haven't had a read of the Koran, I'd genuinely encourage you to do so. If you can do that and still spout your ill informed bile then fair enough, but don't base your entire understanding of the Muslim faith on 11 individuals on trial in Rochdale. |
Most of it many years ago,and whats Call of Duty: Modern Warfare | | | |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 10:07 - Feb 27 with 1277 views | D_Alien |
I guess it's just too subtle a point for many to be able to distinguish between the crass argument that "because asian men have been grooming underage white girls for sex then their community is culpable as a whole" - which is patently untrue; and the issue of susceptibility to believing that it's ok to approach and groom vulnerable females due to their apparent availability and the sexual frustrations inherent in a culture where open access to women (and their access to men!) is denied?
Instead, the same old tired arguments are put forward by most posters, getting absolutely nowhere. Knuckle heads on both sides, I'd say!
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| What been occuring ?????????????? on 10:23 - Feb 27 with 1256 views | MoonyDale |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 08:52 - Feb 27 by HK_Dale |
So everytime someone is convicted of a crime of a similar nature from the caucasian communty we should all go round to there house, terrorise the families of that individual and the rest of the people in that community for not turning them in. Don't be so niave as to thing the rest of the Asian community in rochdale knew what was going on |
And don't be so naive to think that other members of the community didn't know what was going on....
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| What been occuring ?????????????? on 10:41 - Feb 27 with 1243 views | HK_Dale |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 10:23 - Feb 27 by MoonyDale |
And don't be so naive to think that other members of the community didn't know what was going on....
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I don't dispute that some people may have known but my point is that the entire Asian community in rochdale and heywood is not culpable for the actions of a very small minority of people. | | | |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 11:57 - Feb 27 with 1213 views | 2bluehoops |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 07:47 - Feb 27 by JumeirahDale |
Have you read it? Or are you basing that on Call of Duty: Modern Warfare?
2bluehoops - if you haven't had a read of the Koran, I'd genuinely encourage you to do so. If you can do that and still spout your ill informed bile then fair enough, but don't base your entire understanding of the Muslim faith on 11 individuals on trial in Rochdale. |
I wouldn't even attempt to read the bible or the Koran,as far as myself is concerned religion is a load of twaddle that is responsible only for death and misery throughout the world.The only true gods in this world for me,was my mother and father.They was actually real not some made up scam to make money and cause misery and suffering.
Has anyone actually met this here god or Allah or whoever they worship (Gary Jones excluded) or even seen them for that matter and what are they actually. | | | |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 12:08 - Feb 27 with 1201 views | judd |
| What been occuring ?????????????? on 11:57 - Feb 27 by 2bluehoops |
I wouldn't even attempt to read the bible or the Koran,as far as myself is concerned religion is a load of twaddle that is responsible only for death and misery throughout the world.The only true gods in this world for me,was my mother and father.They was actually real not some made up scam to make money and cause misery and suffering.
Has anyone actually met this here god or Allah or whoever they worship (Gary Jones excluded) or even seen them for that matter and what are they actually. |
If you take the time to study the documnetary film The Life of Brian, then I think you will find the answer to all things religious, imperial, secular, sectarian, seperatist and also why actresses should have a decent Brazilian nowadays. |  |
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