| Ashes Winter thread 22:31 - Nov 6 with 47520 views | newgolddream |
Australia all-rounder Shane Watson faces a battle to be fit for the first Ashes Test in Brisbane on 21 November.
The 32-year-old sustained a hamstring injury while bowling in Australia's final one-day international against India last Saturday.
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| Ashes Winter thread on 16:11 - Jan 4 with 1191 views | CamberleyR |
We've probably only won two day's play in the whole series (one of those was marginal, the first day at Brisbane where we had them 130-6 and they finished 270-8) which is absolutely pathetic. Shameful. This hurts far more than 06/07. |  |
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| Ashes Winter thread on 16:17 - Jan 4 with 1187 views | Nov77 |
I felt sorry for our fans that went to watford to watch us..
What about the barmy army who paid many thousands to go out there and support this bunch of surrender monkeys. |  |
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| Ashes Winter thread on 16:21 - Jan 4 with 1171 views | HollowayRanger |
3 NOT so nice facts
1. The aggregate score of all of England's first innings in this series is 969. The aggregate first-innings score of Australia's last five batsmen - its not-batsmen, in other words - is 1,071.
2. Five times England's top five batsmen have been out for a combined total of fewer than 20 runs.
3. When England are bowled out sometime in the next day and a half, as they certainly will be, it will be the first time in a five-match Ashes series they have lost all 100 wickets. |  |
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| Ashes Winter thread on 16:30 - Jan 4 with 1169 views | CamberleyR |
| Ashes Winter thread on 16:21 - Jan 4 by HollowayRanger |
3 NOT so nice facts
1. The aggregate score of all of England's first innings in this series is 969. The aggregate first-innings score of Australia's last five batsmen - its not-batsmen, in other words - is 1,071.
2. Five times England's top five batsmen have been out for a combined total of fewer than 20 runs.
3. When England are bowled out sometime in the next day and a half, as they certainly will be, it will be the first time in a five-match Ashes series they have lost all 100 wickets. |
Exactly. That's why I suggested above keeping only Cook of the current top 5. Bell and especially Pietersen are living on past glories. Pietersen only seems to be motivated by the money in the one day game now. Cook freed of the burdens of captaincy will be the Cook of old. | |
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| Ashes Winter thread on 21:27 - Jan 4 with 1117 views | BlackCrowe |
It's not good out here lads. However, have met a disproportionate amount of Rangers over the past couple of days - none of them LFW posters though. So if any LFW-ers at the SGC today and fancy a meet and break from mid-strength p*ss then we'll be at the Irish bar in the entertainment district next to Fox studios at lunchtime and at the end of play too. You need to get a 'Smoking Passout' at gate E to get back in. |  |
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| Ashes Winter thread on 21:37 - Jan 4 with 1110 views | newgolddream |
I genuinely feel for the England team just now, and that is rich coming from a "Sweaty Sock", they've been put through the mangle by a pumped up set of Aussies. Now then why are the penal colonies so pumped up? Could it be because the stupid media in the UK were themselves pumping out bilge about it being a "whitewash" for England before they left. The Aussies were left bedraggled by their recent results (prior to this series!), and as usual the media in England were too busy putting smoke up everyones back passage about how easy it was supposed to be. It is the same with every sport that England play, the press make expectations that the players can't always match. If the garbage/gutter press hadn't written off the Aussies then perhaps the weight of expectation wouldn't have been so demanding on the England team, and certainly those Australian cricketers wouldn't have been half so glad to rub the English noses in the brown stuff. | | | |
| Ashes Winter thread on 21:41 - Jan 4 with 1105 views | BlackCrowe |
Aussies would be acting the same whatever the media did. They lose badly, they win badly, same as ever. | |
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| Ashes Winter thread on 02:47 - Jan 5 with 1077 views | Nov77 |
Cook gone for 7, here we go again.  | |
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| Ashes Winter thread on 09:28 - Jan 5 with 1022 views | daveB |
Well that went well, apart from Stokes and Broad the rest were useless all tour |  | | |
| Ashes Winter thread on 09:35 - Jan 5 with 1018 views | ozexile |
Vaughn wrote a good piece in the telegraph about making pietersen vice captain. That way there'd be someone to offer a different view point. At the moment cook is really struggling. Far too defensive and has taken our cricket backwards. I think it could work if Pietersen can keep his ego in check. As a Pom living in Sydney the next week is going to be hell. If your team loses with pride you can hold your head up but to lose the way we did is hard to take. Feel so sorry for those who travelled from England and spent thousands. |  | | |
| Ashes Winter thread on 09:42 - Jan 5 with 1006 views | stowmarketrange |
| Ashes Winter thread on 09:35 - Jan 5 by ozexile |
Vaughn wrote a good piece in the telegraph about making pietersen vice captain. That way there'd be someone to offer a different view point. At the moment cook is really struggling. Far too defensive and has taken our cricket backwards. I think it could work if Pietersen can keep his ego in check. As a Pom living in Sydney the next week is going to be hell. If your team loses with pride you can hold your head up but to lose the way we did is hard to take. Feel so sorry for those who travelled from England and spent thousands. |
Who is the vice captain now then?In the past I might have known,but now I can only guess that its .Bell |  | | |
| Ashes Winter thread on 09:49 - Jan 5 with 1001 views | ozexile |
| Ashes Winter thread on 09:42 - Jan 5 by stowmarketrange |
Who is the vice captain now then?In the past I might have known,but now I can only guess that its .Bell |
Isn't one from what Vaughn was saying. The last series it was prior but the didn't feel it worked. Bell hasn't got the personality and they haven't asked Broad who is one day captain. | | | |
| Ashes Winter thread on 10:02 - Jan 5 with 994 views | 18StoneOfHoop |
A foo king shameful catastrophic abject surrender from first ball to last. 
I heard Vaughan on Radio 5Live this morning say that he'd never seen an England team ever play before that had completely thrown in the towel as he saw today.
  
I would like this thread to be closed down tout-de-suite and we never mention the 2013/14 Ashes series again. Just like the 1985 League Cup Final - we turned up but the players didn't - it never really took place,alright?
Oh and instead of flying them back to LDN Heathrow how about dropping them off at Greenland instead.Four weeks enforced reflection in the cold - ugg boots instead of sunglasses - on the spit they just done might do them some good.
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Love,Peace and Fook Chelski!
More like 20StoneOfHoop now.
Let's face it I'm not getting any thinner.
Pass the cake and pies please. |
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| Ashes Winter thread on 11:23 - Jan 5 with 976 views | aves |
| Ashes Winter thread on 10:02 - Jan 5 by 18StoneOfHoop |
A foo king shameful catastrophic abject surrender from first ball to last.
I heard Vaughan on Radio 5Live this morning say that he'd never seen an England team ever play before that had completely thrown in the towel as he saw today.
I would like this thread to be closed down tout-de-suite and we never mention the 2013/14 Ashes series again. Just like the 1985 League Cup Final - we turned up but the players didn't - it never really took place,alright?
Oh and instead of flying them back to LDN Heathrow how about dropping them off at Greenland instead.Four weeks enforced reflection in the cold - ugg boots instead of sunglasses - on the spit they just done might do them some good.
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I put the Australians' Ashes success down to a national feel good factor since Tony Abbot was elected in September. It would be no surprise if it was down to a butterfly effect which uplifted the right-wing press (Julia Gillard/Kevin Rudd? 'strewth!!) and Cricket Australia finding their long-lost cockiness towards the Mother Country and life in general. I liken it to new manager syndrome in football. As far as Pommy-bashing to the average Ocker in Wonglepong is concerned, it's 'normal operations resumed'.
Some things never change... |  | | |
| Ashes Winter thread on 11:25 - Jan 5 with 972 views | hoopstilidie |
Too many pages to go through.
Did we win the cup? |  |
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| Ashes Winter thread on 11:49 - Jan 5 with 954 views | FredManRave |
| Ashes Winter thread on 11:25 - Jan 5 by hoopstilidie |
Too many pages to go through.
Did we win the cup? |
No. But we did come straw clutchingly second. |  |
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| Ashes Winter thread on 12:07 - Jan 5 with 945 views | QPRDave |
Time and opportunity to start again. Broad should stay. Cook?...maybe but not as a captain imo. The others ?..Stokes has done well, but the rest of the places are up for grabs |  | | |
| Ashes Winter thread on 12:21 - Jan 5 with 930 views | newgolddream |
The worst thing is the nature of the 5-0 whitewash. At no point did England look like they might achieve a draw let alone a win. Yes, some of the bowling wad good but the batsmen were worse than terrible and failed at any point during any of the innings to support the bowlers. I don't understand how the ECB can show support for Cook and Flowers? A transitional period? I can't think of a worse overall performance from England in an ashes series. | | | |
| Ashes Winter thread on 12:26 - Jan 5 with 920 views | CHUBBS |
A fcukin disgrace!!!!
The experienced players who have been so good for England over the years have just tarnished what was an excellent reputation and legacy with the most gutless,pathetic,cowardly performance in Ashes history.
C@nts. |  | | |
| Ashes Winter thread on 12:29 - Jan 5 with 917 views | QPRDave |
| Ashes Winter thread on 12:21 - Jan 5 by newgolddream |
The worst thing is the nature of the 5-0 whitewash. At no point did England look like they might achieve a draw let alone a win. Yes, some of the bowling wad good but the batsmen were worse than terrible and failed at any point during any of the innings to support the bowlers. I don't understand how the ECB can show support for Cook and Flowers? A transitional period? I can't think of a worse overall performance from England in an ashes series. |
Good post.
There's more to batting than just technique as anyone who has played the game at whatever level will tell you. You have to have a bit of courage,fight and determination .
Something totally bereft from the the top 5 or 6 batters in the England team.
Embarrassing..
Well done Australia far too good for us | | | |
| Ashes Winter thread on 12:31 - Jan 5 with 912 views | TheBlob |
And of course the gin soaked tie wearing old kunts at the MCC or wherever their dementia ridden brains are will re -elect the management regardless and tap each others' testicles in the (ooer)"Long Room". |  |
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| Ashes Winter thread on 19:45 - Jan 5 with 877 views | newgolddream |
HOW could the England team have expected to win. Look back to last Summer if it hadn't been for the rain the Aussis would have won the Ashes then. The only thing for the team to do is a complete rebuild with Young blood like Ben Stokes who has shown he can take it even on his first test. | | | |
| Ashes Winter thread on 21:10 - Jan 5 with 852 views | ElHoop |
| Ashes Winter thread on 12:29 - Jan 5 by QPRDave |
Good post.
There's more to batting than just technique as anyone who has played the game at whatever level will tell you. You have to have a bit of courage,fight and determination .
Something totally bereft from the the top 5 or 6 batters in the England team.
Embarrassing..
Well done Australia far too good for us |
Yes well done to Australia, although I'm not convinced that they are much good either. They head off to South Africa next month, so it will be interesting to see how that goes, and indeed how many of them will actually turn up over there.
I don't see how the English management structure can remain in place after this. It feels like a structural failure rather than something that you can just twiddle a knob to sort out. The players look burned out now so how can you resolve that when 'intensity' is your buzz word. Do you look for new players to burn out or do you try a different approach to get the existing ones back on track? I'd like to see a new approach from a new team. |  | | |
| Ashes Winter thread on 21:37 - Jan 5 with 837 views | HollowayRanger |
root was ment to be the next big thing wasnt he?
they messed him up so much he aint even in the team now!
carberry what was the point of that 33!
what happened to taylor and compton
prior out of form but still best bet if not then buttler no messing could be out for a duck but give him an hour or two and he'll put on a hundred | |
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| Ashes Winter thread on 21:58 - Jan 5 with 1061 views | CiderwithRsie |
| Ashes Winter thread on 21:37 - Jan 5 by HollowayRanger |
root was ment to be the next big thing wasnt he?
they messed him up so much he aint even in the team now!
carberry what was the point of that 33!
what happened to taylor and compton
prior out of form but still best bet if not then buttler no messing could be out for a duck but give him an hour or two and he'll put on a hundred |
Worst thing for me was that every test was lost by the end of the third day, in some cases by the end of the second.
Listening on the radio to the 1st test, 2nd day, 2nd session, when we lost 5 for 9 runs, the 5-0 looked on right then. As an England fan that hurts but as any sort of cricket fan other than an Aussie it's worse - the whole point of test cricket is that it ebbs and flows over 5 days preferably as part of a 5 match series. In this series there were about 8 days play which were just filling in time while Australia did the necessary to finish off matches they had already won.
Worst run tour by England in my lifetime, no exaggeration. 2006 was much better and that was supposed to be record-breakingly bad. Teams in the 90s put up more fight and had technically worse personnel. Just appalled that the ECB have come out and said Flower and Cook's jobs are safe - maybe they should stay but to say so without even bothering to conduct a post-mortem - simply negligent. | | | |
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