| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. 13:47 - Apr 28 with 9468 views | NOTRAC |
We often read on here of over expectations and that we are currently punching above our weight.However with four years experience of the Premiership to look forward to next year,plus a no debt situation perhaps it is time to revalue ourselves on the Premier stage.
There is no doubt that where we let ourselves down at the moment is in ground capacity.At a maximum of 20,750 we have the smallest Stadium in the league and perhaps we associate this with doubts regarding filling additional seating if we expand ,based on the idea that population wise we perform badly when compared with other other cities and towns in the Premiership.
However in general this is not so and if we allow for the fact that Manchester and Liverpool support two teams ,most,including ourselves are very close to each other as follows
Southampton population. 253651
Newcastle. 280200
Liverpool. 466400 but support two teams therefore 233200 each.
West Brom. 135618
Sunderland. 275500
Stoke. 249000
Hull. 256100
Norwich. 213166
Manchester. 503000 but support two teams therefore 256500 each
Cardiff. 346000
Swansea. 239600
The two teams already promoted for next year have populations as follows
Leicester. 329900
Burnley. 73500
I have not included the London clubs as their catchment area is close and huge but the populations of the actual areas where London clubs exist is not huge eg Fulham 165242, Tottenham115965 and Chelsea 36 828.
The major anomaly in the lists is Aston Villa the sole representative in the Premiership of Birmingham with a population of 1074000.
On the basis of population areas we should have no fears in increasing our capacity to well above 30000.The sooner we do this the better.
In no way then could we be described as a small club punching above our weight. |  |
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| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 18:40 - Apr 28 with 1502 views | mahoss |
| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 18:13 - Apr 28 by Brynmill_Jack |
Also the local catchment area is fairly big when you include Neath, PT and Llanelli .
And if Cardiff go down and stay down for a few seasons and we keep our PL status then more of them are bound to come over |
Absolutely.
You are now talking over 300k population.
There is huge potential,we should expand as soon as possible. | | | |
| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 18:44 - Apr 28 with 1492 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 18:40 - Apr 28 by mahoss |
Absolutely.
You are now talking over 300k population.
There is huge potential,we should expand as soon as possible. |
I heard the bay population was over 500k . And with the crisis in Welsh rugby we should take full advantage |  |
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| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 18:47 - Apr 28 with 1482 views | owainglyndwr |
Also if you take in Neath & PT, Llanelli, West, Swansea Valley you are looking at around 800.000 or so |  | | |
| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 18:48 - Apr 28 with 1475 views | JackFish |
| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 18:44 - Apr 28 by Brynmill_Jack |
I heard the bay population was over 500k . And with the crisis in Welsh rugby we should take full advantage |
From the 2011 census, county populations:
Swansea: 239,000
NPT: 139,800
Carmarthen: 183,800
So 562,600 in total. |  | | |
| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 18:50 - Apr 28 with 1467 views | mahoss |
| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 18:34 - Apr 28 by JackFish |
I can't agree that the stadium was too small when built, we were a struggling league two club lucky to get more than 4k for a home game at the time.
Definitely agree that we should be looking to get up to 25k asap though. Would have liked to have seen it done this summer, but maybe we could do similar to what Cardiff have done this season and get it started during the season, so it'd be ready for summer 2015?
Not sure the demand is there to go bigger than that at the moment, but if we were to sell our regularly at 25k then hopefully planning permission etc. could already be in place for the next stage. |
The general consensus was that for a city of our size,20k was too small.
The original plans if i recall were for a 26-27k stadium,which would have been fine.
We are now paying for that lack of foresight. | | | |
| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 18:52 - Apr 28 with 1462 views | owainglyndwr |
Pembs and the top of the Swansea Valley is under Powys | | | |
| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 19:02 - Apr 28 with 1440 views | kopperburgjack |
It's all good plucking these numbers out but they need to be at the games! It's a shame it wasn't nearer to town, although potential traffic issues I'm sure it would have attracted more people!
If we were to expand what stands would be built on? Didn't think they would be able to build on east because of the river behind it? |  |
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| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 19:03 - Apr 28 with 1435 views | JackFish |
| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 19:02 - Apr 28 by kopperburgjack |
It's all good plucking these numbers out but they need to be at the games! It's a shame it wasn't nearer to town, although potential traffic issues I'm sure it would have attracted more people!
If we were to expand what stands would be built on? Didn't think they would be able to build on east because of the river behind it? |
East, north and south. Think the capacity if all were expanded would be 32-33k. | | | |
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| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 19:14 - Apr 28 with 1406 views | Dr_Winston |
| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 18:50 - Apr 28 by mahoss |
The general consensus was that for a city of our size,20k was too small.
The original plans if i recall were for a 26-27k stadium,which would have been fine.
We are now paying for that lack of foresight. |
20,000 initial capacity would have been fine. Ease of expansion should have been considered.
Regardless, we're going into our fourth season in this division and it's still not sorted. Not good enough. |  |
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| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 19:17 - Apr 28 with 1400 views | mahoss |
| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 19:14 - Apr 28 by Dr_Winston |
20,000 initial capacity would have been fine. Ease of expansion should have been considered.
Regardless, we're going into our fourth season in this division and it's still not sorted. Not good enough. |
Spot on
We havent planned for expansion,Cardiff have !
Its now time to expand,we need more seats. | | | |
| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 19:23 - Apr 28 with 1384 views | 3swan |
Can’t remember when, but it was quite a few years ago, but a football survey was done and came up with a figure of 10%, of the local population, went to watch their local games.
Now that must be slightly higher since the Premier league was formed | | | |
| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 19:32 - Apr 28 with 1353 views | tomdickharry |
The time scale for any expansion is all set out in recent trust minutes.I suggest we return to this subject in say 2 years. | | | |
| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 19:40 - Apr 28 with 1328 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 19:32 - Apr 28 by tomdickharry |
The time scale for any expansion is all set out in recent trust minutes.I suggest we return to this subject in say 2 years. |
If it's going to take 2 years well what's the f*cking point? | |
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| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 19:44 - Apr 28 with 1317 views | Dyfnant |
| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 19:40 - Apr 28 by Brynmill_Jack |
If it's going to take 2 years well what's the f*cking point? |
Gives the possible chance to actually use the relegation excuse |  |
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| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 19:51 - Apr 28 with 1296 views | SgorioFruit |
The only thing that confuses me is the club have clearly said on more than one occasion that if we are sittin pretty in the league towards the end of the season then the building plans will start.
That has been said three times over the last three seasons. |  |
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| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 19:56 - Apr 28 with 1247 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 19:51 - Apr 28 by SgorioFruit |
The only thing that confuses me is the club have clearly said on more than one occasion that if we are sittin pretty in the league towards the end of the season then the building plans will start.
That has been said three times over the last three seasons. |
Well remembered there Scott. I suppose now would be the time to get this so called travel plan negotiated as without Europe to hinder us we could be sitting pretty around next February or March. Then there will be nothing to stop the first phase (bar the board themselves) | |
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| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 19:58 - Apr 28 with 1233 views | longlostjack |
What was the estimated cost of the first expansion phase ? |  |
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| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 20:05 - Apr 28 with 1205 views | 3swan |
| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 19:56 - Apr 28 by Brynmill_Jack |
Well remembered there Scott. I suppose now would be the time to get this so called travel plan negotiated as without Europe to hinder us we could be sitting pretty around next February or March. Then there will be nothing to stop the first phase (bar the board themselves) |
Not sure if there's anything planned for it, but a few weeks ago the land next to the Tawe alongside Virgin Media had been cleared.
A good place for matchday parking? as it's away from the general match traffic being the other side of the river | | | |
| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 00:31 - Apr 29 with 1081 views | sammylee3 |
| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 20:05 - Apr 28 by 3swan |
Not sure if there's anything planned for it, but a few weeks ago the land next to the Tawe alongside Virgin Media had been cleared.
A good place for matchday parking? as it's away from the general match traffic being the other side of the river |
Can't ever remember taking so many from Pembrokeshire, we have nearly 400 in the Pembs travel club on facebook. Lads I know who never used to follow swans now follow swans. 25k ASAP Huw |  | | |
| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 00:51 - Apr 29 with 1068 views | JackoBoostardo |
| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 00:31 - Apr 29 by sammylee3 |
Can't ever remember taking so many from Pembrokeshire, we have nearly 400 in the Pembs travel club on facebook. Lads I know who never used to follow swans now follow swans. 25k ASAP Huw |
And people some on here would call plastics.
Yet I would consider it a fresh supporter base that has extended our fanbase even further.
Great news - and more reason we should be having the larger stadium sooner rather than later. |  |
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| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 07:32 - Apr 29 with 1014 views | blaine_scfc |
What would be the approximate time scale of the work? I can't see any reason now for us not to be increasing to 26/27k, would fill it no problem. |  | | |
| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 08:22 - Apr 29 with 987 views | owainglyndwr |
Once you become a suporter you will alway be a Swans supporter.
There was a mini bus of Swans supporters from Aberystwyth at the Villa match | | | |
| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 08:31 - Apr 29 with 977 views | builthjack |
Loads of Swans supporters in Mid Wales always looking for tickets, and young kids are now swaying towards Swansea rather than your Man U, Liverpool, Chelsea etc. So to get them on board for life they need to be able to attend games. At the moment they can't. |  |
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| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 09:10 - Apr 29 with 958 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 08:31 - Apr 29 by builthjack |
Loads of Swans supporters in Mid Wales always looking for tickets, and young kids are now swaying towards Swansea rather than your Man U, Liverpool, Chelsea etc. So to get them on board for life they need to be able to attend games. At the moment they can't. |
And that can be applied to south and west wales too. If the ball doesn't start rolling soon I doubt it will ever happen and once we get relegated (as surely one season will happen) it will be list revenue for us | |
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| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 09:32 - Apr 29 with 937 views | tomdickharry |
| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 19:40 - Apr 28 by Brynmill_Jack |
If it's going to take 2 years well what's the f*cking point? |
Having been personally involved in partnership with the Trust in the widening of the access from behind the East Stand onto the "bouncing Bridge" the access being known as a "pinch point",the process from start to completion took approx.2 and half years,consequently an extension to the the east from planning consent to completion would take perhaps equally as long,who knows,where there's a will there's a way. | | | |
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