| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. 13:47 - Apr 28 with 9589 views | NOTRAC |
We often read on here of over expectations and that we are currently punching above our weight.However with four years experience of the Premiership to look forward to next year,plus a no debt situation perhaps it is time to revalue ourselves on the Premier stage.
There is no doubt that where we let ourselves down at the moment is in ground capacity.At a maximum of 20,750 we have the smallest Stadium in the league and perhaps we associate this with doubts regarding filling additional seating if we expand ,based on the idea that population wise we perform badly when compared with other other cities and towns in the Premiership.
However in general this is not so and if we allow for the fact that Manchester and Liverpool support two teams ,most,including ourselves are very close to each other as follows
Southampton population. 253651
Newcastle. 280200
Liverpool. 466400 but support two teams therefore 233200 each.
West Brom. 135618
Sunderland. 275500
Stoke. 249000
Hull. 256100
Norwich. 213166
Manchester. 503000 but support two teams therefore 256500 each
Cardiff. 346000
Swansea. 239600
The two teams already promoted for next year have populations as follows
Leicester. 329900
Burnley. 73500
I have not included the London clubs as their catchment area is close and huge but the populations of the actual areas where London clubs exist is not huge eg Fulham 165242, Tottenham115965 and Chelsea 36 828.
The major anomaly in the lists is Aston Villa the sole representative in the Premiership of Birmingham with a population of 1074000.
On the basis of population areas we should have no fears in increasing our capacity to well above 30000.The sooner we do this the better.
In no way then could we be described as a small club punching above our weight. |  |
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| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 18:37 - Apr 30 with 1771 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 16:35 - Apr 30 by TheFranchise |
Transport links etc need sorting before any development can take place and that's a FACT Jack.
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Well why aren't the club making an effort in this direction. Surely it can't be hard to sort out a few extra buses with first Cymru for match days and nights? |  |
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| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 19:07 - Apr 30 with 1737 views | owainglyndwr |
| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 18:37 - Apr 30 by Brynmill_Jack |
Well why aren't the club making an effort in this direction. Surely it can't be hard to sort out a few extra buses with first Cymru for match days and nights? |
We seem to be dragging our feet, |  | | |
| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 19:26 - Apr 30 with 1715 views | jack_lord |
The Norwich travel to work area is 280,000 whilst the Swansea travel to work area is 700,000. |  |
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| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 19:29 - Apr 30 with 1698 views | Jackfath |
I was at the ticket office earlier. Two gents were turned away when they asked were there any season tickets available for next year.
It's a shame that we aren't making the most of our situation. However if ML hadn't gone and got himself sacked I think we'd be good to go. Too much uncertainty with Mr Monk in charge has delayed this considerably. |  |
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| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 19:33 - Apr 30 with 1695 views | waynekerr55 |
| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 19:29 - Apr 30 by Jackfath |
I was at the ticket office earlier. Two gents were turned away when they asked were there any season tickets available for next year.
It's a shame that we aren't making the most of our situation. However if ML hadn't gone and got himself sacked I think we'd be good to go. Too much uncertainty with Mr Monk in charge has delayed this considerably. |
Will PROBING questions be asked at the next fans forum FATH? |  |
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| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 19:34 - Apr 30 with 1702 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 19:33 - Apr 30 by waynekerr55 |
Will PROBING questions be asked at the next fans forum FATH? |
Providing it occurs on a date when I am in Swansea, yes they will. |  |
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| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 10:11 - May 4 with 1564 views | Dr_Winston |
Leighton James seems to think that expansion is starting Monday... |  |
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| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 10:14 - May 4 with 1558 views | LeonisGod |
| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 14:01 - Apr 28 by Gretsch |
Dont think it's the stadium that's the problem its the crappy rail service, bus service, car parking, access in and out.
Just getting out of the car park is over half hour wait.
Simple things, Landore train station, open one Cater for away fans, Neath, Port Talbot, West Wales types, or anywhere there is a train station basically. Reduce a large number vof cars coming here.
I come on train from Neath and then bus to pub/ground as I have a few before game About twenty buses passed in the 25 minute wait from train arrival, only the bendy bus stops by the stadium? Better links, better timing actually cater for the fact there is an event in Swansea not act as if its a normal day.
Access from car park, only way out is where the pedestrain supporters have to walk, change the exit, to lead onto the dual carriageway centre/other end of car park
Coming out of the East, there is a narrow path that eveyone has to walk on unless you want to slide on your arse in the muddy grass, slows pedestrians down, make it bloody wider so people can get out quicker, so the cars can get out quicker.
Coppers on roundabout by Coopers, dont just stand there direct the forking traffic like the old cops used to. |
Agree with that. I chose a 11 mile round trip walk over public transport - it genuinely is quicker. |  | | |
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| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 21:08 - May 8 with 1459 views | Jackfath |
Those links are 5 moths old. | |
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| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 21:10 - May 8 with 1462 views | NeathJack |
It's absolutely absurd that a main train line runs right next to a modern football stadium and there is no station or platform there for use on a matchday. |  | | |
| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 21:13 - May 8 with 1443 views | Jackfath |
| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 21:10 - May 8 by NeathJack |
It's absolutely absurd that a main train line runs right next to a modern football stadium and there is no station or platform there for use on a matchday. |
Or a river taxi service | |
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| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 21:18 - May 8 with 1436 views | NeathJack |
| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 21:13 - May 8 by Jackfath |
Or a river taxi service |
Or a taxi rank. | | | |
| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 22:18 - May 8 with 1351 views | Pacemaker |
| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 21:08 - May 8 by Jackfath |
Those links are 5 moths old. |
I was reading something else and it was on the same page I didn't look at date I guess that's where your MOTHS were hiding as it was published in January.
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| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 22:23 - May 8 with 1334 views | pierre91 |
...we have outline Planning permission as many have highlighted. The bugbear is the local Travel Plan. Until that's sorted to EVERYONE's satisfaction (local residents, Council, Club, SW Police etc etc) there will be no final committment from SCFC (who get to pick up the bill). Is that really so surprising??
Despite the many decent suggestions that lots on this thread have made, resolution of this schism will put everything on hold until resolved, Trust me, it's the truth. |  | | |
| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 22:47 - May 8 with 1279 views | jack_lord |
| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 22:23 - May 8 by pierre91 |
...we have outline Planning permission as many have highlighted. The bugbear is the local Travel Plan. Until that's sorted to EVERYONE's satisfaction (local residents, Council, Club, SW Police etc etc) there will be no final committment from SCFC (who get to pick up the bill). Is that really so surprising??
Despite the many decent suggestions that lots on this thread have made, resolution of this schism will put everything on hold until resolved, Trust me, it's the truth. |
Fine but why can't a 100 million pound business be able to work more effectively on this travel plan. As a person who is qualified to talk on this, the club are dragging their feet. | |
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| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 23:01 - May 8 with 1249 views | Ryan |
| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 18:34 - Apr 28 by JackFish |
I can't agree that the stadium was too small when built, we were a struggling league two club lucky to get more than 4k for a home game at the time.
Definitely agree that we should be looking to get up to 25k asap though. Would have liked to have seen it done this summer, but maybe we could do similar to what Cardiff have done this season and get it started during the season, so it'd be ready for summer 2015?
Not sure the demand is there to go bigger than that at the moment, but if we were to sell our regularly at 25k then hopefully planning permission etc. could already be in place for the next stage. |
" can't of agree that the stadium was too small when built, we were a struggling league two club lucky to get more than 4k for a home game at the time. " We got promoted year we went in the stadium, we don't sell out every game so a putting millions of pound into a stadium expansion may not be such a good idea, it may not be a sound investment for the return will receive for the extra seats. |  |
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| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 23:04 - May 8 with 1243 views | pierre91 |
| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 22:47 - May 8 by jack_lord |
Fine but why can't a 100 million pound business be able to work more effectively on this travel plan. As a person who is qualified to talk on this, the club are dragging their feet. |
..I think you make a fair point. If this was ManUre, Citeh, the Arse, or Cheski's "little horses" the resolution would be quick and effective.
I think the problem is that all of the above have been beneficial for so long and , more pertinently, beneficial for their local areas that we suffer in comparison.
We are a (comparitively) recent addition to the ranks of big money. We still have to persuade many both that we're here to stay and that we can IMPROVE the local community (a la Citeh in East Manchester) but on a lesser scale obviously .
People nationally are beginning to buy into the "Swansea and environs" narrative as an attractive place to visit. Seems to me we need to convince our own Councillors and other key "stakeholders" that as a Club we're a bloody big positive! | | | |
| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 23:25 - May 8 with 1214 views | ScoobyWho |
| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 21:10 - May 8 by NeathJack |
It's absolutely absurd that a main train line runs right next to a modern football stadium and there is no station or platform there for use on a matchday. |
Not if you are Swansea. |  |
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| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 00:16 - May 9 with 1168 views | kopperburgjack |
If we're not a small club why do we take so little to away games? |  |
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| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 00:25 - May 9 with 1161 views | LeonisGod |
| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 00:16 - May 9 by kopperburgjack |
If we're not a small club why do we take so little to away games? |
Of course we are a little club. The league is defined by economics and we have one of the smallest budgets. But the club is also lucky to have excellent away support, which is probably disproportional to home attendances when compared to many other teams.
I've no idea why this is the case (novelty still an issue maybe?), but long may it continue. | | | |
| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 00:33 - May 9 with 1150 views | kopperburgjack |
| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 00:25 - May 9 by LeonisGod |
Of course we are a little club. The league is defined by economics and we have one of the smallest budgets. But the club is also lucky to have excellent away support, which is probably disproportional to home attendances when compared to many other teams.
I've no idea why this is the case (novelty still an issue maybe?), but long may it continue. |
Agreed we are a small club in comparison to the rest of the league, but I don't think the away support is excellent at all, at times this season it has been embarrassing in my opinion | |
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| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 08:04 - May 9 with 1051 views | jack_lord |
| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 00:25 - May 9 by LeonisGod |
Of course we are a little club. The league is defined by economics and we have one of the smallest budgets. But the club is also lucky to have excellent away support, which is probably disproportional to home attendances when compared to many other teams.
I've no idea why this is the case (novelty still an issue maybe?), but long may it continue. |
Our budget is smaller because we have a little ground. Perhaps, now that the training grounds are complete and paid for, then we can use more of the budget on playing staff and defenders are cheaper than strikers. | |
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| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 09:37 - May 9 with 994 views | Starsky |
| Stadium expansion should go ahead with no worries.We are not a small club. on 23:01 - May 8 by Ryan |
" can't of agree that the stadium was too small when built, we were a struggling league two club lucky to get more than 4k for a home game at the time. " We got promoted year we went in the stadium, we don't sell out every game so a putting millions of pound into a stadium expansion may not be such a good idea, it may not be a sound investment for the return will receive for the extra seats. |
Ryan, there's virtually no return on investment with a capacity increase.
Our Sky income dwarfs any potential financial increase through the turnstiles.
What were talking about here is the opportunity for our club to grow. If we have paid for the training facilities now, then this is the opportune moment to extend the stadium.
We have virtually sold out the home allocation all season. We need to expand so that we don't miss out on the next generation of Swans fans.
If we don't do it while were in the Premier league, it may never get done.
If or when we ever get relegated, what a legacy we would have created for Swansea City.
2 new state of the art training facilities, bigger stadium and a whole bucketful of treasured memories.
How many other teams used their Sky money like we have the chance to do?
Most of the other clubs spunked their money on bad signings and rich agents. |  |
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