| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects 06:37 - May 16 with 14140 views | RonaldStump |
What is the real source of truth for the latest rise in cases in Glasgow?
6 people who have had the vaccine are currently being treated for complications in Glasgow.
What is the REAL truth?
Isn't it strange how vaccinated people are coming down with the CHY NA virus (Kung Flu) or one of it's variant double or triple mutant versions?
It's either the jab doesn't do what it's supposed to or it actually does?
With no long term studies on this new medicine miracle, but plenty coming out about the effects it's having on the immune system.
Why is there a need for healthy people to get jabbed when they have a 99.7% chance of surviving anyway. (more to the point why are we jabbing our kids?)
Far more questions than answers at the moment
cue Anti vaxxer abuse from the usual crowd! [Post edited 16 May 2021 6:57]
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| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 22:04 - May 21 with 1458 views | majorraglan |
Heathrow is opening a designated terminal for flights from red countries on the 1st of June, where have they and the government been until now. | | | |
| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 22:10 - May 21 with 1449 views | Scotia |
| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 22:04 - May 21 by majorraglan |
Heathrow is opening a designated terminal for flights from red countries on the 1st of June, where have they and the government been until now. |
I agree.
Apparently it was logistically difficult.
They've had months to prepare and are currently operating at about 20% of normal numbers. This should have been done months ago. | | | |
| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 06:51 - May 23 with 1368 views | Kilkennyjack |
Dreadful game playing by Johnson.
He probably thinks its funny to release the Indian variant report on a Saturday night.
The content is anything but funny. |  |
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| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 07:47 - May 23 with 1347 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 06:51 - May 23 by Kilkennyjack |
Dreadful game playing by Johnson.
He probably thinks its funny to release the Indian variant report on a Saturday night.
The content is anything but funny. |
Deepti who ? Is she an expert on anything? | |
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| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 08:07 - May 23 with 1343 views | Professor |
| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 07:47 - May 23 by felixstowe_jack |
Deepti who ? Is she an expert on anything? |
Epidemiologist at Queen Mary’s College | | | |
| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 08:34 - May 23 with 1334 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 08:07 - May 23 by Professor |
Epidemiologist at Queen Mary’s College |
Thanks.
This must be the most pointless post on the boards.
One the one hand are the scientific experts reporting on facts and all the antivaxers posting rubbish.
Fact vaccines save lives.
Not having the vaccines kills people. | |
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| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 19:22 - May 23 with 1272 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 20:26 - May 21 by Scotia |
They weren't just stating CDC data they were making a flashy (and inaccurate) headline out of the perfectly reasonable statistics. It has sucked you in like that subtitled YouTube clip you posted and now seem to have ignored. Do you question anything you read on a subject you want to believe?
If it had been on ilovebiden.com you would be saying exactly the same thing I am. I don't want to get personal but you are incredibly gullible, you don't realise you are because you blindly believe the conspiracy and think that makes gullibility impossible. You consider yourself enlightened when the opposite is the case.
I haven't looked at the swine flu stuff, it was 45 years ago, this situation is entirely different.
There aren't 4000 associated deaths. 4000 old and ill people have died who have had the vaccine.
How many deaths do you think would be picked up if recording were the same after the flu vaccine? Does the flu vaccine kill them or is it the conditions that make them need the flu vaccine? [Post edited 21 May 2021 20:35]
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You do not seem to understand that all vaccine related deaths are monitored, the same problems of identifying the exact cause exists with all of them, but the difference is very worrying.
But you keep repeating the lie that only old, ill people have become ill and or died immediately after COVID vaccinations.
Here are some examples that a few minutes of browsing will find for you.
Haley Link Brinkmeyer, 28
Emma Burkey, 18 - didn't die just brain clots and brain operations
Wyatt McGlaun teenager - Guillain-Barre syndrome. sound familiar?
Sarah Sickles, 28 - Brain Dead, her organs were harvested
Sonia Acevedo, 41
Dr. Gregory Michael, 56
Sarah Strate,17
Everest Romney, 17 - Brain clots
Dr. J Barton Williams, 37
Kassidi Kurill, 39
Anne van Geest, 38
Tim Zook, 60
Here are some more interesting statistics from the US CDC data.
From 75 million double vaccinated people, 5800 were subsequently infected with covid and 74 died.
That was later updated without the total vaccinated and moved it to 7157 infected and 88 died.
So not just "a few adverse events" as stated by prof.
Even those numbers quoted by the CDC are very small in comparison to the Deaths with COVID, but not the Deaths of only COVID without co-morbidities, which the CDC states for America is about 5%-6% of the the total.
I agree with prof that these Vaccines are saving lives, how is it irresponsible to think that the public should be made aware of the risks involved, as he said paracetamol is dangerous, but just like every other medicine you get a leaflet in every packet telling you what the side affects are and if you want more detail you can look them up on line.
Why would you, scotia and prof not want the public made aware of the correct statistics to make an informed decision, just because a few of them might not want to be vaccinated.
It would shut up some of the conspiracy theorists if it was out in the open and the proper statisics were availabe without having to rely on those very conspiritors to point to the data with their inflamitory rhetoric.
I am sure that prof will be back again to say that there is no direct link between those US Immune responses and deaths and COVID vaccines, nor the 7700+ in Europe, just as there was no direct link to all the previous vaccines. | | | |
| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 14:41 - Jun 2 with 1162 views | felixstowe_jack |
'Reasonable' to require care home staff to get jab - watchdog
The UK's human rights watchdog says it is reasonable to legally require care home staff to be vaccinated against Covid-19.
Care home workers were included in one of the earliest priority groups for vaccination so, in most cases, they have had both doses and are now fully vaccinated. But some staff have not come forward to take up the vaccine and that stance has become a matter of public and political debate in recent months.
The Equality and Human Rights Commission (EHRC) says a proportionate approach to requiring care home workers to get the vaccine could give more freedom to the residents they care for, as lockdown restrictions ease in the wider world.
But it says the government should include safeguards and minimise the risk of discrimination, with exemptions included in the legislation - such as for those who cannot have a jab for medical reasons.
Any legislation should have a sunset clause and be subject to regular review, it adds.
The government has held a consultation on making vaccines mandatory for those working at older adult care homes in England.
The EHRC acknowledges this would be a "significant departure" from current health policy but says the move could protect service users who are at particular risk from the virus. | |
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| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 20:54 - Jun 21 with 1051 views | Kilkennyjack |
This is worth a listen.
Johnson should resign.
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| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 21:47 - Jun 21 with 1014 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 20:54 - Jun 21 by Kilkennyjack |
This is worth a listen.
Johnson should resign.
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Fake new boris listen to the scientific evidence not hindsight from the uneducated.
Nicloa and Drakeford did ban people from India. Are they going to resign as well. | |
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| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 22:12 - Jun 21 with 993 views | Professor |
| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 21:47 - Jun 21 by felixstowe_jack |
Fake new boris listen to the scientific evidence not hindsight from the uneducated.
Nicloa and Drakeford did ban people from India. Are they going to resign as well. |
I don’t think there are direct flights in Wales from India, so I think Drakeford gets a pass on that. On balance we would still have the Delta variant even with earlier restrictions, but fewer introductions would have given more time for vaccination.. a big mistake , but not to the extent Kilks makes out | | | |
| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 22:15 - Jun 21 with 992 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 21:47 - Jun 21 by felixstowe_jack |
Fake new boris listen to the scientific evidence not hindsight from the uneducated.
Nicloa and Drakeford did ban people from India. Are they going to resign as well. |
This is on Johnson.
Dont try to defend him.
He should be in jail. | |
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| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 22:17 - Jun 21 with 989 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 22:12 - Jun 21 by Professor |
I don’t think there are direct flights in Wales from India, so I think Drakeford gets a pass on that. On balance we would still have the Delta variant even with earlier restrictions, but fewer introductions would have given more time for vaccination.. a big mistake , but not to the extent Kilks makes out |
May i ask if you have listened to the video that i posted above ?
Be interested on your view on that. | |
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| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 22:26 - Jun 21 with 985 views | onehunglow |
| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 08:34 - May 23 by felixstowe_jack |
Thanks.
This must be the most pointless post on the boards.
One the one hand are the scientific experts reporting on facts and all the antivaxers posting rubbish.
Fact vaccines save lives.
Not having the vaccines kills people. |
I cant understand them felix
Ive almost finished with them.
They do not have an alternative apart from allowing people to simply die. Fair enough really as it will solve problems with people having live saving treatments. Covid is just flu and governments and establishment looking at controlling us ;that's what it's about.
Meanwhile ,people die of it.
Make no mistake a fans dad wouldnt want any of his siblings catching this bit of flu. | |
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| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 22:49 - Jun 21 with 965 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 22:26 - Jun 21 by onehunglow |
I cant understand them felix
Ive almost finished with them.
They do not have an alternative apart from allowing people to simply die. Fair enough really as it will solve problems with people having live saving treatments. Covid is just flu and governments and establishment looking at controlling us ;that's what it's about.
Meanwhile ,people die of it.
Make no mistake a fans dad wouldnt want any of his siblings catching this bit of flu. |
No, I would want them treated with medicines that thousands of doctors have shown to save their lives.
But you all listen to the prof and scotia and therefore don't believe that they work.
That is letting people die.You
I have lost count of the number of times I have told you, I have not said don't have vaccines.
I have made it clear that they should be allowed to make the choice with all the information available, it is called an informed choice. | | | |
| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 05:59 - Jun 22 with 944 views | Catullus |
| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 19:22 - May 23 by A_Fans_Dad |
You do not seem to understand that all vaccine related deaths are monitored, the same problems of identifying the exact cause exists with all of them, but the difference is very worrying.
But you keep repeating the lie that only old, ill people have become ill and or died immediately after COVID vaccinations.
Here are some examples that a few minutes of browsing will find for you.
Haley Link Brinkmeyer, 28
Emma Burkey, 18 - didn't die just brain clots and brain operations
Wyatt McGlaun teenager - Guillain-Barre syndrome. sound familiar?
Sarah Sickles, 28 - Brain Dead, her organs were harvested
Sonia Acevedo, 41
Dr. Gregory Michael, 56
Sarah Strate,17
Everest Romney, 17 - Brain clots
Dr. J Barton Williams, 37
Kassidi Kurill, 39
Anne van Geest, 38
Tim Zook, 60
Here are some more interesting statistics from the US CDC data.
From 75 million double vaccinated people, 5800 were subsequently infected with covid and 74 died.
That was later updated without the total vaccinated and moved it to 7157 infected and 88 died.
So not just "a few adverse events" as stated by prof.
Even those numbers quoted by the CDC are very small in comparison to the Deaths with COVID, but not the Deaths of only COVID without co-morbidities, which the CDC states for America is about 5%-6% of the the total.
I agree with prof that these Vaccines are saving lives, how is it irresponsible to think that the public should be made aware of the risks involved, as he said paracetamol is dangerous, but just like every other medicine you get a leaflet in every packet telling you what the side affects are and if you want more detail you can look them up on line.
Why would you, scotia and prof not want the public made aware of the correct statistics to make an informed decision, just because a few of them might not want to be vaccinated.
It would shut up some of the conspiracy theorists if it was out in the open and the proper statisics were availabe without having to rely on those very conspiritors to point to the data with their inflamitory rhetoric.
I am sure that prof will be back again to say that there is no direct link between those US Immune responses and deaths and COVID vaccines, nor the 7700+ in Europe, just as there was no direct link to all the previous vaccines. |
I took one name off that list, Sarah Strate, 17, and had a look.
https://www.aldergrovestar.com/news/we-miss-her-father-of-alberta-teen-who-died-
No mention of a vaccine or any problems with a vaccine but her father is convinced she died from a variant of Covid because of her symptoms.
Maybe I should go through the whole list but I can't really be bothered. | |
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| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 06:35 - Jun 22 with 928 views | Professor |
Thanks Cat
Every link gets debunked.
Perhaps we should list the 130,000 U.K. deaths.
Those drowned in their own sputum, organ failure, thrombosis, stroke, septic shock.
Consider the evidence base that most of the proposed medication someone suggests either don’t work, have a marginal effect or in the case of HCQ can reduce survival. And the millions who have died despite these ‘wonder drugs’
Or the thousands with long term problems.
Delta has not really hit South Wales yet.
Get vaccinated. Ignore this madness. | | | |
| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 07:00 - Jun 22 with 914 views | Gwyn737 |
| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 06:51 - May 23 by Kilkennyjack |
Dreadful game playing by Johnson.
He probably thinks its funny to release the Indian variant report on a Saturday night.
The content is anything but funny. |
The schools data still isn’t available as far as I know.
However, the guidance has changed and know includes masks returning to secondary classrooms and the cancellation of all transition events. | | | |
| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 07:14 - Jun 22 with 912 views | Professor |
| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 22:17 - Jun 21 by Kilkennyjack |
May i ask if you have listened to the video that i posted above ?
Be interested on your view on that. |
Have a lot of time for ‘Led by Donkeys’ . Bongo messed up for sure, but we would be dealing with Delta now regardless which is not really being said. He probably cost us 2-3’weeks of time to improve vaccination rates. That’s a balanced answer. | | | |
| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 08:18 - Jun 22 with 892 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 22:17 - Jun 21 by Kilkennyjack |
May i ask if you have listened to the video that i posted above ?
Be interested on your view on that. |
Yes a carefully edited propaganda video with no actual scientific evidence. It is no more reliable than a IRA recruitment video. | |
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| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 08:20 - Jun 22 with 891 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 06:35 - Jun 22 by Professor |
Thanks Cat
Every link gets debunked.
Perhaps we should list the 130,000 U.K. deaths.
Those drowned in their own sputum, organ failure, thrombosis, stroke, septic shock.
Consider the evidence base that most of the proposed medication someone suggests either don’t work, have a marginal effect or in the case of HCQ can reduce survival. And the millions who have died despite these ‘wonder drugs’
Or the thousands with long term problems.
Delta has not really hit South Wales yet.
Get vaccinated. Ignore this madness. |
Some sense at last | |
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| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 11:59 - Jun 22 with 852 views | Professor |
Not one piece of anything other than circumstantial evidence.
Not one proven link.
You realise Guillain-Barre syndrome is caused by infections. Most common trigger is food poisoning by Campylobacter. And I know more than a little about that.
You whine on about the swine flu vaccine- a 2 in a million chance of severe reactions. Yet flu has a around a two thousand in a million chance of killing you and about a 10 thousand in million chance of severe complications including Guillain-Barre syndrome.
1. You don't understand relative risk
2. You continue to post unverified claims
3. When presented with strong evidence-based research you claim its wrong.
4. You don't undertstand a fraction of what you say.
You think you know more than experts like Peter Horby and Martin Landray-claim they are wrong. Yet they are recognised around the world as leading the best evidence-based work on therapy for COVID.
You are a retired bloke from South Wales, with no education in medicine, epidemiology or infectious disease biology looking on google for any scrap of info no matter how unreliable the source. Look at yourself. Is everyone else wrong? Or are you so deranged by conspiracy that you no longer know who or what you are? | | | |
| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 12:21 - Jun 22 with 846 views | 3swan |
Prof could you answer a basic and maybe stupid question. Variants identified as first found in Kent, India etc. In my simplistic mind can a variant mutate in the same way in more than just one area? In short the Kent variant could also have mutated in the same same way elsewhere in the world | | | |
| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 12:22 - Jun 22 with 840 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Indian variant or Vaccine adverse effects on 06:35 - Jun 22 by Professor |
Thanks Cat
Every link gets debunked.
Perhaps we should list the 130,000 U.K. deaths.
Those drowned in their own sputum, organ failure, thrombosis, stroke, septic shock.
Consider the evidence base that most of the proposed medication someone suggests either don’t work, have a marginal effect or in the case of HCQ can reduce survival. And the millions who have died despite these ‘wonder drugs’
Or the thousands with long term problems.
Delta has not really hit South Wales yet.
Get vaccinated. Ignore this madness. |
After putting Cat straight I move on to the Prof.
Who yet again makes a completely unsubstantiated lie with this crap "Every link gets debunked. ", when it is one link in 12 that I got wrong.
You just cannot help yourself from coming out with total b@llsh!t can you.
You are oh so smug and superior and can't even get a simple thing like that right.
Yes perhaps we should list those 130,00 UK deaths, but much better than that perhaps we should contact their greaving families and tell them based on the latest 15 study meta analysis "by the way if the NHS had given your loved ones the correct medicine they would have had a risk ratio of 0.36 of not dying and if they had been given it as a prophylaxis it would have reduced their COVID-19 infection for an average of 86%.
From the UN WHO to the CDC, FDA, NHS, most major western governments and especially mass media outlets like facebook, twitter, Youtube and google have been suppressing the information that HCQ, but especially Ivermection save lives.
And they have useful idiots like you and scotia pushing their case for them.
Hundreds of thousands of lives have been saved by Ivermectin in India and Mexico which you and those organisations continue to not only ignore but they try and stop it from being used.
Yes millions have died, because they have not been given the medicine, not because they don't work.
In the USA that is Homicide and the UK it is Negligent Manslaughter, why aren't the rest of you absolutely incensed by this, I will tell you why cause prof says it isn't true against multiple studies and thousands of lives saved.
of course patients whose reduced infections should also be less likely to suffer from long covid.
By the way the WHO guidelines here.
https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/covid-19-vaccine
"There is not yet enough evidence on the use of vaccines against COVID-19 in children to make recommendations for children to be vaccinated against COVID-19. Children and adolescents tend to have milder disease compared to adults. However, children should continue to have the recommended childhood vaccines. "
So do not get or allow your children to be vaccinated for COVID19.
There are also rumours that some or all of J & J vaccines may be pulled from the arena, but we will need to await an announcement on what it actually means. | | | |
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